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Hip Hop Forums => Hip Hop Events => Topic started by: mizi. on November 16, 2006, 05:06:18 PM
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Watsup.
I would like to drop an issue covering the leaders of various regions in the country. In each region, there are guys that are making major moves. I would like to do a page or two on ONE ARTIST/GROUP that we see as the 'King' of that area, per region.
So Western Cape would have a double page on its main artist. Same for DBN, Eastern Cape, Gauteng, North West and so on. I know we have cats here from all around, who understand their region better than I do so I need suggestions per region.
So, Who is the 'king' of:
1. PTA
2. JHB
3. DBN
4. E. Cape
5. W. Cape
6. North and NorthWest Prov
7. Freestate
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E. Cape = Supremacy. It would be JBux but he apparently no longer raps.
I'd quite like to do that article. Mind if I submit some copy?
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Yo. lets get this discussion going for a minute so we get more views. Would you drop a piece on whoever everybody else thinks? And could you send me some of that music too? mp3?
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"Who gets weaker? The king or the teacher?
It's not about a salary, it's all about reality
Teachers teach and do the world good,
kings just rule and most are never understood."
- KRS1
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haha
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Thats a dope track Rob_One. I can listen to it but I cand dowload it to my system. Could you mail it to me 2.
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yo mizi, how do you get your album reviewd on hype... coz i know these dudes who got this really really dope ep soon dropping...
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You can just submit a disc and we can review it
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ait then..ill speak to em cats.
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As Dplanet will agree, the up-and-coming artists in CT right now are Konfab and Middle Finga. You had Middle Finga on your last Hype CD, so you might wanna listen to Konfab.
Too dope...
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Mizi im glad you said that. Im from PE, ECape. i won the Battle of the Bay 2006 & i came 3rd in the African Hiphop Indaba. im dropping an LP in January with IQ, Nyambz, DJ Tea & Maz G on production, and im only 16. if you interested just PM me.
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yes i'm sure Dplanet would say that Konfab and Middle Finga are hot in the Cape, I'm sure he would also agree that Jaak is burning with the same verbal inferno..... I could also see Garlic Brown holding a match in this braai cos I know very few who would be willing to go mic jousting with him.... its a tuff one for the cape gotta say...
But who ever wins out with popular support, I wouldn't mind takin abash at runnin out the copy, having some experience in that whole writing thing..... while we hash out this here question of the subject, you want portfolio? <-- 4 mizi
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question - does hype come out every month or every second month?
i only started buying it since october, hence my ignorance.
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JHB gotta be Landmynz
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Hi Mizi,
* I was wondering about the title 'King'* - apart from the gendered implications which would exclude the beloved Blakrok...
I thought maybe the word King could be slightly problematic. There are so many excellent artists in the Eastern Cape region. If we submit articles would we have to justify the title?
*You see the hegemony of the internet can distort the true nature of the art on the ground* Those who have access to media end up making the Kings* (Just a concern)
Cause Sycotiq (is that you ASD? - who was on TV!) and Abantu (who's been involved in churning out songs with Ghetto Youth Uprising etc).
These guys are really brilliant. But I wouldn't want to offend the rest of P.E. hip hop by having them labelled as 'Kings' even though they've been at it for ages.
And as for Izithunywa Zohlanga... I mean... there's so many interesting very active artists who are producing stuff...
Thanks again,
Nomalanga
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ain't non bigger than the LandMynz in Jozi...
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**Sorry in case the above post is misread, I'm disagreeing with you Rob1 - Supremacy are super talented but they're not the Kings of anything yet. I've heard Syqotiq and I'd much rather read about his hard work**
And I'm crazy about Abantu's stuff...
And how can I forget DANGANTYE!!
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Gender issues aside,,, (the title could always be 'Ruler', or 'Queen' where applicable),,, this is just gonna be another sensationalist and highly subjective piece of journalism - but anyway...
You can't talk about Eastern Cape without mentioning Trusenz:
- 'Nomadsland' has sold almost 10,000 (online & at shows) since it was released early 2005
- He performed to 1000s in Estonia, warming up for the Beatnuts
- Has his own Hip Hop show called 'Ground Zero' on CKI fm - featuring many local artists such as Blakrok
- Does workshops in prisons
- Performing around the country with Rock band BEE (warming up for Freshly Ground)
- Second album slated for Feb 07
- In sponsorhip negotiations with SAB for the video for 'Go Against Us' (which will be completed by mid December)
- Chickenhawk was played regularly on Campus Radio in Boston, USA (listenership of over 500,000)
- Featured in SL Magazine (Dec 2005)
- 'Spitfire' featured on SL Magazine free CD (Dec 2005)
Does that make him the 'King' of EC? I don't know. Certainly shows that he is active in the Hip Hop community.
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^^^^ see well, information like that is so valuable
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Sorry Sunshine, i'm not Syqotiq. I'm ASD. I would have benn on TV for that Niknaks thing, but I was too young to enter. But Sykotiq & I are boys man. :D
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I'm sticking by what I said about Supremacy. Trusenz makes sense, but my thinking is that the criteria should apply to someone, or a group, still living/working in the area. Trusenz, to my knowledge, is in CT, right?
Still, it's only my opinion, and HYPE isn't my magazine (yet).
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Trusenz lives in East London.
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I will not call them Kings. Every region should put their best foot forward (artists) and we only have space for one act per region. So the artists making the most impact will best rep their area.
mail me at mizi@hypemagazine.co.za
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Heres a beat I did yesterday. Not the type i usually do tho
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Heres a beat I did yesterday. Not the type i usually do tho
Yeah, Witness played me this beat early.Its a shame though.....its only a minute long.I do like the change of style for a minute.Always good to add some diversity.Keep pluggin some of these types here and there.Btw, looking forward to meeting up with u guys in JHB early december. :wink:
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Trusenz lives in East London.
I stand corrected - and surprised! I honestly thought he called CT home.
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Western Cape
I think the problem with finding a 'King' of the Western Cape is that the scene is so fragmented. There are also a lot of different styles of Hip Hop (Spaza, underground, Afrikaans, commercial etc), and there is a lot of still-to-be-fulfilled potential.
This is my (highly subjective) top 3 (in no particular order):
Ben Sharpa
A real contender for the title, Sharpa is a stalwart of SA's Hip Hop underground, having been a founder of GroundWorks and Audio Visual. Probably one of the few world-cla** lyricists we have in SA. He has travelled and toured in London, sharing the stage with artists such as Immortal Technique (June 2005), Jonzi-D (June 2003), Black Thought (August 2001), Mr. Len and Gene Grae (May 2001). In 2003, he won a nationwide freestyle battle competition sponsored by MTN.
He makes most rappers seem like they just learned to rap by listening to Will Smith. He probably hasn't received the recognition he is due, partly because he purposely avoids commercial cliches, and partly because he makes music that is ahead of its time. His rhymes are rich with complexity, yet accessible. His subject matter ranges from social commentary to abstract poetic tales of street life. His forthcoming album 'B. Sharpa' contains cla**ics like 'Sick n Tired' and 'Hegemony (Police Protection Service)'.
Not many SA MCs can take the stage after Wordsworth and hold their head up high - but Sharpa is one that can ("one of the illest emcees on the globe" - DP ONE, Wordsworth's DJ).
KONFAB
KONFAB represents a new generation of hungry, dedicated rappers. Although he is a relative newcomer, he has created a buzz around the country.
A certified syllable flow master, his rhymes are full of insane (quoteable) punchlines and metaphors with real depth. KONFAB manages to tread the line between commercial & conscious like no other rapper in SA. His rhymes are full of political commentary that address real issues faced in SA. His forthcoming album 'Swart Gevaar' will be an SA cla**ic.
Middle Finga
Middle Finga has probably the most commercial potential of any artist in the Cape. His album 'Spaza' is out on promo (the full release will be early next year). He raps, in a combination of English and vernac, about his life and the social issues that surround him eKasi. Middle Finga is dedicated to creating a truly South African form of Hip Hop that the people can relate to.
Middle Finga has performed at the following events; International Film Festival, Rotterdam, Holland (2006), Adderly Street Night Market Festival, Cape Town (2005), 'Hip Hop Connected', ArtsCape, Cape Town (2005) and 'Crossing Borders' Festival, The Hague, Holland, (2004). He also starred in Jonzi D's production 'Le Club' at the Market Theatre in Johannesburg. Middle Finga features on the forthcoming albums of both Mizchif and Sifiso Sudan, as well as Drudge Dialect Volume 1. His track 'Phuncunka Bembamba' is featured on the November edition of Hype Magazine's CD. He has also appeared on Street Journal.
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8O clearly this article of yours MIZI is going to cause
some unrest...for alot of crews.........
damn i can see the anti HYPEMAG trkz now.....
good luck in it
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Am glad ya all touchn tha issue of Eastern Cape MCZ coz thts what I represent as well :wink:
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Liquid KZN,They have already featured on Hype magazine,they've been touring and performing in festivals around the world,They quite represent KZN.Cool guyz to chat with.Ibutho",Murumo,Lus, & Aka are dope too.
(AS FOR MIZI TALKING ABOUT WHOS THE KING??NIGGuh PLEASE :? ..I THINK YOU NEED TO REPHRASE THAT.)
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Yo this is sume dope shit
PTA-Ras
JHb- Explicit
Cape Town-Seida Crook
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A good point though: this is going to cause a lot of friction. But you know what? f*** it. Whoever gets the positions, this is a brilliant idea that could work really well for the magazine. It seems like it has the potential to hit a lot of markets everywhere in the country, and produce some meaningful content.
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Friction indicates that something is being contested. Therefore its ok. As long as its not disrespectful or slanderous and doesn't expect a magazine to be egalitarian when its primary aim is commercial gain. But its worthwhile to have queried the issue because its elicits information about artists through debate.
Apart from that, its ok whatever the magazine does because it seems like I'm happy to part with 15 bucks anyway.
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umm, who is this?
Cape Town-Seida Crook
which crew?url?etc.....
if you want a queen in CPT - Eavesdrop is probably the best contender.
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(AS FOR MIZI TALKING ABOUT WHOS THE KING??NIGGuh PLEASE ..I THINK YOU NEED TO REPHRASE THAT.)
Rephrase it to what? As long as you understand what it means Im cool. Maybe we call it "Best Regional Rep" or something. The aim of this is to let cats step their game up. There will be alot of friction no doubt because there will be plenty of crews who have been doin it for years and will feel they are not being recognised when we decide to put a young cat in the mag. A lot of these pioneer cats are pretty quiet these days and are surviving on the street cred/respect from back in the day. These are past 'reps' and not current 'reps/kings'.
When the young cats take the position, there will be friction. I guess its a cla**ic case of THE SECOND MOUSE GETTING THE CHEESE. The old school cats made the mistakes the young cats will learn from. If the old cats are still putting in work, and doing a good job, then they need to be recognised.
My question is who is on top of things TODAY?
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I believe that an artist needs "Hype" (excuse the pun) to sell, Think about it when morale was on the unsigned top 5! It got people talking and hating at the saem time. My point is no matter how whe do it, whether we use the word "king" or "Unsigned number 1" you will always get critics that will twist your words and discredit you!.
Hype mag is finally using its full potential to help expose artists! Its a good idea, although it would be hard to select a "King" in the j-sec area, We got a gang of mc's that are hot "Spaceman, Donnie Brasco, Morale, Sean Pages, Maggz, Nthabi, Episode, Reason, Landmynz, X-ray, Navio, Osmic,3rd Wave. Should I go on?
Good Luck :wink:
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E. Cape = Supremacy. It would be JBux but he apparently no longer raps.
I'd quite like to do that article. Mind if I submit some copy?
I heard the same thing but i dont know how true this is Whers Rush anyword on this supposed early retiring
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J-Bux raps! fact!(he told me) I just don't thing he's into making secular music like he used to no more. he been exploring other music and his Christianity 4 a minute since he bounced from the show et al, but I wouldn't test him in the street in case he still has a stash of whip-a** in his pocket.
I'm feeling what the ECape peeps is saying about the King/TopDog thing in this region.
Psychotic - putting in mad work as always and even produces tight ish.
ASD - young, brash & talented, but with less than a year on stage, not quite kingable, son.2 summers to go
who else did y'all mention in P.E? who knows.I will say this tho' - there are TONS of serious "U-got-a-future, son" acts in Numb City (NMB-Nelson Mandela Bay) so I wont curse my show and show favouritism towards any 1.Whenever in town ask for Exp, Negro 1, Khululekani, Meta4, ASD, Z-Digi, GYU, Abantu, Cush, The Art Officials (Hishaam),Lush,Prolific Skill and many others. Most of these cats got albums and a sign saying "we will rap 4 food".
With apologies to all artists and friends on this thread, I think the man with the top single from this city this year is 100% Blaq with My Music.Considering that I heard Landmynz's 21 on AG LAST year be4 it blew THIS year, maybe that song still has time in the rest of the country.If not, he got a new one already.
Anyway, all of Numb City's finest will be on display on Dec. 6 @ P.E's Opera House @ 100% Blaq's CD Launch (4pm-10pm), so if u around, peep & learn.
I DIGRESS!
Trusenz rules! DJ Ique rules! Nuff said - from the scene I fled!
Free P.E.................plus the lady below! 8)
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What do you think of BIG IDEA as KZN reps
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What do you think of BIG IDEA as KZN reps
Right On! Only ever heard Quincy's poetry and he's nice with it. Missed them by a tail at Oppikoppi. sure they made us proud...
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should this article actually run it would be useful to include some sort of description of the criterion used to select the "Kings".
To this end those of you nominating candidates should probably motivate your nominations (like D Planet did) otherwise it just makes you look like a groupie d*ck rider.
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Okay since we in a demogratic country -- I think when its close to the time you should get like three reps from each of the provinces then let the people speak and vote for the top MC from the cities --
What would also be dope is if a track could be posted from each of the"finalist" and then take it from there -- We could have a Hype poll on AG
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What would be even better would be getting regional nominees ('Kings') to to submit a new track based on the theme of them being the 'King of the province' (or whatever gender-neutral term Mizi chooses to use).
These tracks could go on the Hype CD and the readers could come to AG to vote on their favourite - this would decide the 'People's King of SA Hip Hop'.
This would also be a nice affiliate marketing promo for Hype Magazine and AG.
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in these part of the world there is only two people who deserve the title and that s my nigga BONGI-SHOESHA and FARRAGO
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in these part of the world there is only two people who deserve the title and that s my nigga BONGI-SHOESHA and FARRAGO
oh yeah? why?
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in these part of the world there is only two people who deserve the title and that s my nigga BONGI-SHOESHA and FARRAGO
Yeah !! Why??????? -- S'funu kwazi!!!
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its probably gonna sound arrogant & egotistical but 4 PE n maybe 2 a lesser extent META4 got it locked.
and cats can ask anyone in the know : "Rap Scalyon"; Rushay; Mugabe even ASD knows that the title can and should only sit with one crew.
Hit the site: www.freewebs.com/meta_4 make up your own mind
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Please tell me moe about these cats.
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ok Mizi...
i take it you understand that HIPHOP is a multi-faceted urban phenomenon, and there is no ONE element that defines it or towers above another in defining it.
if that is in order. i'd like to pose the following question:
WHEN YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO THE "REGIONAL KING", ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE TOP DAWG IN EMCEEING, TURNTABLISM, B-BOYING, STREET FASHION, STREET ENTREPRENEURIALISM, BEATBOXING, GRAFFITI OR STREET SLANGUAGE..???
just asking...
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Please tell me moe about these cats.
Basicallly Meta4 is 2 cats: SyKotiQ Illement & Catalyst. Been hustling strong in PE since 2005. we launched our first EP in May n our first LP"The Outcome" in AUgust. on that project we had a couple of local acts luyk JBux & Hishaam n produced the majority of it ourselves with some beats from IQ , Beatology,and Siya.
we've since been workin on our album with IQ as a major producer an we been also workin on solo production projects. weve produced for a lot of PE cats e.g. Dangatye , Odee slash, Mzo, 100 % Blaq etc.
Defdinitely very bi contenders for regional kings with their own studio with at least 100 tracks produced, recorded n engineered ny these 2 in the last year.
check this thread http://africasgateway.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15330
and our myspace http://www.myspace.com/meta4our
and our website http://www.freewebs.com/meta_4
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WHEN YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO THE "REGIONAL KING", ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE TOP DAWG IN EMCEEING, TURNTABLISM, B-BOYING, STREET FASHION, STREET ENTREPRENEURIALISM, BEATBOXING, GRAFFITI OR STREET SLANGUAGE..???
Yes hip hop is a multi-faceted urban phenomenon. A king, I guess, is the hip hop icon of a specific area. It could be anybody representing any part of hip hop. You do know, however, that the hip hop front man is the MC, making the MC the most prominent hip hop icon. So far, we only have MCs and crews on the list bacause that is the info we have gathered from around the country.
Just got the Meta4 myspace addy. Wil check it out
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hmmmm... cape town i'd consider konfab + gini grindith eish and jozi it has to be golden shuvel :? er i dnt knw where tumi is from BT HE TAKES DA CAKE 4me tjo maybe thats why hes so PHat :lol:
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oK, FIRST THINGS FIRST.
bloem's top representative ( note how I didn't say King , because some people are such f***in idiots that they would gop and try to turn the thread into a feminist convention) would have to be Kulax.
I'd like to write the article if you would allow it Mizi, boy is a friend of mine and I am a much better writer than anyone currently employed at Hype (this is a fact, so just accept it and carry on reading)
Kulax has production credits on almost every single person in Bloem's albums, plus his own shit is fire. He's not bad on the mic either, actually he's very good on the mic.
A close second for Bloem would be Ricky, who is responsible for the Musclebomber album along with Snazz the Dictator. Rumour has it that he has hooked up with the boys from Def Jux, so expect to hear big things from this boy.
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PTA- Hakeem
JHB- 3rd world riders
VaaL- Alfa
KZN- KZN LIQUID
CT- konfab
this is gonna be a hard one MIZI, good luck kid. dont get shot for it
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Wut it do 187 a**asin. U saved me from pointin out the most obvious fact that 3WR are the coldest cats in Mzanzi hip hop. Why is everyone actin like they forgot this fact! Only problem is the promo we were promised last year. Could we please get that.
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some random thoughts
Maybe we should have regional kings (and put all these artsists mentioned for the various areas). My request is to place Tumi & Ben Sharpa on a level higher than everyone else. maybe confer them the title "Kings of SA" or something.
Durban - EWOK -this white kid has represented KZN in hip hop battles & brought back the crown as the best emcee in the land (Hip Hop Indaba 2004). He has received critical acclaim in potery circles as well (Urban Voices, Poetry Africa). He is probably one of the most well known emcess in Durban amongst DBN residents (not just amongst headez). His crew Illuminating shadows is also well known and has a following troughout DBN.
Big Idea could also be considered as kings - but they've been tgethor for a short period as a group to really garner a big following and be well known. The Ghetto Prophecy Movement is probably more respected and popular in Durban (just like the Big idea, they are not pure hip hop - live band plays jazz, regggae and other sounds. San - their lead member has been singing and rapping for ages) Perharps the only band that has "hit songs" amongst locals. They can attract reasonable audiences where most people know the songs and appear like a big band.
In KZN, you can also onsider Blackfist of Garvey (Keith's band) - One of the best bands in SA fronted by one of the best emcees. in another world, Keith & the band would have been like the Jimi hendrix experience / Public Enemy & attained superstardom. These guys are probably in the same league as Tumi & the Volume but without the exposure. They have conquered everything there is to be conquered in KZN - Flux, Awesome Africa, own gigs in venues across DBN. Household names. (BTW I dont know whether these gusys are still around, though).
There is also the nymphonic bastards in Durban - a motley crew of 7 or so emcees that include some of Durbna's most well known/ illest aemcees - SAN from GPM, bullet (one of the best freestylers & battle emcees), Blaq, Seven Lox, etc. problem is their style can get over many people's heads at times - just like those cape cats - writers block,archetypes,etc. Their second EP (destruction Design/Krust 2) is banging nonetheless & is mixed by Durban's Finest (no not Tira & Sox - but DJ Papercut. He now goes by Pay-per-Cut). I hear his birthday party will see him being reborn as P-Kattuh or something like that) If you in DBN check that out (i think it will be in Skybar this weekend or next weekend)..
+ Nkayiso of Izimbongi in DBN has done more for KZn hip hop than anyone else - regular shows (MIC Check back in the days ) a compilation CD of DBN ish, bringing Jsec cats, media coverage, etc. + with Nstika - Inqaba, radio slots, True activists.
Eastern Cape - Abantu is probably the illest cat I've heard from the Eastern Cape. lousy Living (LI, nqo & all those cats) also tight. Izithunywa Zohlanaga are just in adifferent league - they have taken hip hop much closer to the people and yet their style is so advanced. I just wonder why local/community radio stations & umhlobo Wenene are not bumping their ish. It's got a local appeal yet still real hip hop. their lyrical content is mind boggling.
+ I'm sure we all know JBux by now. Everyone seems to respect him in the PE area.
I have not listened to dangatye & all these other cats. big problem in SA hip hop. you can be the king of your hood and yet no one has even heard about you elsewhere. Everyone is like Dangatye is the illest cat around & you like who the hell is that. the music is not circulating far & wide.
Cape Town
Konfab (writers Block), middle finga, middle finga aka rhamcwa, maniacs (Rattex, Sketch & them) , Goddessa + Endzi's album rocks.
Would go for Ben Sharpa though (in case he is not procalimed king of SA alongside Tumi). Sharpa should rhyme over morer accessible beats though - some boom bap shit. he can get over the average heads' head. I think this is what Tumi will get with his latest album - a wider audience.
+ BVK & Ready D. Who has driemanskap + illeterate Skill joints so we can hear wether they are worth the props they get.
POC should also be declared Kings of SA. one of the pioneers.
Jozi
@ the end of the day it's your call Mizi (togethor with your team hopefully)
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Just to add to Ben Sharpa's list of credentials:
- Ben Sharpa featured on the first ever UK/ SA Grime/ Hip Hop collaboration ('My People') with True Tiger's* Purple Simba & Shyam.
- 'My People' is currently being played by BBC1 Xtra's Cameo, Ras Kwame & Semtex.
- BBC Radio 1's Mary Anne Hobbs played 'Hegemony' by Ben Sharpa on her show last week.
(*True Tiger just won two BBC1 Xtra Mixtape Awards for 'Eye of the Tiger Vol.1).
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Gauteng is a different story altogethor. too many styles in different regions. For instance, I'm not surprised that no one has mentioned cats like Ngwenya, Bhubesi, Vikinduku, First born, etc. These cats are mad tight but mainstream Jozi will show no love. topo much of a venec vs eglish thing. Again no one seems to notice underground crews like Digital philosophers, head rock, audio visual, etc. and everyone seems to hate the commercial/kwaito-ish artists - Township Frequency, Skwatta Kamp, Jozi, Hidden Force, H20, etc. thinking about it Skwatta probably has received more accolades than any rap group in SA (barring POC) across commercial and underground circles. they have arguably had more commercial success than any other SA group (i.e a gold and a platinum album, SAMA awards, probably more hits & radio airplay than any SA rap group & easily the most recognisable rap group in SA) + slikour's business acumen adds a dimesnion often missing in SA hip hop. these guys have propbably done more than most will ever do to popularise hip hop & to ensure that hip hop gets airplay & is taken seriouly by recording companies, the media, etc. of course giving them the title would create a huge uproar amongst hip hop purists.
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rustenburg
farrago
bongi-shoesha
why
these are cats who got the streets of rustenburg on lockdown as far as skills,hustle and vibrant performance is concerned.
also featured on the rhythm and street poetry mixtape
farrago also released an e.p on the 20th of dec 2006.
by listening to the e.p you will realise he is no chancer.
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Only problem is the promo we were promised last year. Could we please get that.
The EP will be uploaded by end of this week.
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Only problem is the promo we were promised last year. Could we please get that.
The EP will be uploaded by end of this week.
Can we plz get a zip in this muthaufck.
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@ 187 a**asin, dude I'm from the V and would like to know who Alfa is?[/quote]
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what ever happenned with this? ....mizi?
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E.C IS SO OBVIOUS MIZI I THINK U KNOW THE MONOPOLY R THE EC KINGS... CASH WILL HAV TO FIGHT WITH THE KID(KOLI) FOR THE CROWN..BESIDES HE ALREADY CALLS HIMSELF KING OF THE EC SO I GUESS HE IS.....
JHB- MORALE BOY IS HOT.....(NOT TO IMPRESSED THOUGH WITH THE I AM VID
PTA- IT HAS TO BE BLACKLEZ HANDS DOWN
CT- PUNIT WILL HAV TO MAKE UP THEIR MINDS ON WHO THE BEST
KZN- THE REALEST YUNG ZOOLOO ( ZULUBOY WONT EVEN MAKE INDUNA)
R THERE KINGS IN THE FREE STATE & NW. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I think it should be Kullax in the Free State he once featured on the Hype magazine volume 9.
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@MERCHANT NIGGA I AM FROM THE EC & I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO ABANTU IS IF HE IS A KING WHY THE f*** DONT I KNOW BOUT HIM & THERES A FEW CATS I DONT KNOW..... LOUSY LIVING IS ALRIGHT LI AINT ALL THT I HAV HIS ALBUM @ THE CRIB...NQO IS A POET... SO YO ANALYSIS ON EC IS NULL & VOID...
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A great man conquers another man
A greater man conquers a nation
The greatest of man conquers self.
VERITAS the truth babe, call me Mr Jo’burg
If it aint me its defiantly some one from my team.
Aint nobody got da same grind aint nobody got personality like I
Aint nobody got da same talent aint nobody put da same work…
My features are aerodynamic your boy fly, you heard!!!!!!!!!!
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EC-Koli and Abantu
KZN-Shon_G
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puh-leeeze y'all. recess poetry runs shit. EC...GP...whatever. matter fact, the EP's coming out next month to prove me right. 8)
*crazy a** rappers always sayin shit they can't back up!*
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@Blak...will be on the lookout for the EP..and u better rep i Komani to the fullest.....from kwaThemba-Mabuyaze-Mqeshi-Madeira-Toptown and back to e Thula-ndivile....
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puh-leeeze y'all. recess poetry runs shit. EC...GP...whatever. matter fact, the EP's coming out next month to prove me right. 8)
*crazy a** rappers always sayin shit they can't back up!*
Looks like a war is bubbling for the EC throne 8)
Looking forward to this coz it should be interesting how it all pans out. :wink:
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Interesting article this would be, problem is not everybody will be satisfied with who's representing each region. And I think its logical to include cats who've made an appearance in the mag itself or on the compilation cds... Or another extreme measure is to concider cats with albums/materials released in stores for example.
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E.C. KINGS is definately between Izithunywa Zohlanga(Life Forces) and/or
Abantu(Check out Nontsundu!!!).
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i wouldnt exatly say king but thres a hot producer down in P.E by th name of Negro 1... he made a couple of beatz fa some frees at Bay fm. somebody should really check him out... dudes hot.
ill try get his digitz.
Peace
J-oNE
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All this specualtion has to stop. Personal opinion does not make a king. Proving your royal blood does. That said....what up EC PLayaz? Everyone mentioned in this thread as the possible king put a track together called "I am the King". Deadline October 1. Tracks must be complete and uploaded on AG by no later than October 1. Judges should be anyone voting on a thread that will be opened specifically for this reason. In the track spit about your accomplishment and your grind as peeps will only vote based on the track and what they know about you. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY NIGGAZ! Game on ......
Lets get it on.....
P.S This throne is comfy.......I think I'll stay!!!
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All this specualtion has to stop. Personal opinion does not make a king. Proving your royal blood does. That said....what up EC PLayaz? Everyone mentioned in this thread as the possible king put a track together called "I am the King". Deadline October 1. Tracks must be complete and uploaded on AG by no later than October 1. Judges should be anyone voting on a thread that will be opened specifically for this reason. In the track spit about your accomplishment and your grind as peeps will only vote based on the track and what they know about you. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY NIGGAZ! Game on ......
Lets get it on.....
P.S This throne is comfy.......I think I'll stay!!!
hahah,,, now that's what i'm talking about 8)
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All this specualtion has to stop. Personal opinion does not make a king. Proving your royal blood does. That said....what up EC PLayaz? Everyone mentioned in this thread as the possible king put a track together called "I am the King". Deadline October 1. Tracks must be complete and uploaded on AG by no later than October 1. Judges should be anyone voting on a thread that will be opened specifically for this reason. In the track spit about your accomplishment and your grind as peeps will only vote based on the track and what they know about you. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY NIGGAZ! Game on ......
Lets get it on.....
P.S This throne is comfy.......I think I'll stay!!!
hahah,,, now that's what i'm talking about 8)
Yep. I am wanting to seeing what are gonna to happens, someone is gonna have to step their shit up with this one.
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All this specualtion has to stop. Personal opinion does not make a king. Proving your royal blood does. That said....what up EC PLayaz? Everyone mentioned in this thread as the possible king put a track together called "I am the King". Deadline October 1. Tracks must be complete and uploaded on AG by no later than October 1. Judges should be anyone voting on a thread that will be opened specifically for this reason. In the track spit about your accomplishment and your grind as peeps will only vote based on the track and what they know about you. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY NIGGAZ! Game on ......
Lets get it on.....
P.S This throne is comfy.......I think I'll stay!!!
hahah,,, now that's what i'm talking about 8)
Yep. I am wanting to seeing what are gonna to happens, someone is gonna have to step their shit up with this one.
^^^^cosig...yeah lets do this fellas...
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All this specualtion has to stop. Personal opinion does not make a king. Proving your royal blood does. That said....what up EC PLayaz? Everyone mentioned in this thread as the possible king put a track together called "I am the King". Deadline October 1. Tracks must be complete and uploaded on AG by no later than October 1. Judges should be anyone voting on a thread that will be opened specifically for this reason. In the track spit about your accomplishment and your grind as peeps will only vote based on the track and what they know about you. VERIFIABLE FACTS ONLY NIGGAZ! Game on ......
Lets get it on.....
P.S This throne is comfy.......I think I'll stay!!!
hahah,,, now that's what i'm talking about 8)
I'm definitely in........ I am the King
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:P :P :P :P :P :P Thats the best idea I've heard in a long time. My money is on Morale and Maggz Jhb. 8)
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ol talk and no game makes Trusenz a fat boy :arrow:
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ol talk and no game makes Trusenz a fat boy :arrow:
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O
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All shit talk and no experience........thats while you'll always be new......Pussy!!!
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ol talk and no game makes Trusenz a fat boy :arrow:
dam thats ether, its hard to come back from that. I cant wait to hear the tracks
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All shit talk and no experience........thats while you'll always be new......Pussy!!!
at least i admit i'm pussy...old c***...anywho latch on to a pen and paper and start writting a decent track...
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8O :lol: DAYUM!!
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All shit talk and no experience........thats while you'll always be new......Pussy!!!
at least i admit i'm pussy...old c***...anywho latch on to a pen and paper and start writting a decent track...
Wow whats going on here????????????? :(
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What is going on here is the internet thug movement has got Pussy ga**ed. Pity. Are you even from the EC? Or are you just a Stan without an idol. I hope you take part in this showdown. More for this fat boy to eat...feel me......see you at the exit...or your back at least.
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Yo Trusenz how do I get to the CKI fm studios? Ya'll in Bisho right?
I think nuwepussy doesnt rap so there is no point getting at her.
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:D i think the Monopoly video ALONE will win this for US!!!!!
hahahaha..but im game!
personally i think the LYRICAL KING is KOLI!
as far as Producer/Rapper/Entrepeneur/sound Engineer/Song Writer, im a good contender!
but lets see what happens!
PEACE!
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1. PTA-ANVILS
2. JHB-(the new old school)Savage/Smerf/Smash&childakapoet
3. DBN-im clueless sombody put dbn on the map please
4. E. Cape-???
5. W. Cape-???
6. North and NorthWest Prov-Konfab yeah!!
7. Freestate--TimelessworksRecords
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1. PTA-ANVILS THEY STAND A HUGE CHANCE
2. JHB-(the new old school)Savage/Smerf/Smash&childakapoet. NEVER HEARD OF YOU3. DBN-im clueless sombody put dbn on the map please
4. E. Cape-???
5. W. Cape-???
6. North and NorthWest Prov-Konfab yeah!!
7. Freestate--TimelessworksRecords
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i think its a cool concept for an issue and i dig the whole i dea of niggaz putting on tracks on this concept to see who can freaks it betta, i study in cape town and believe me driemanskap deserve the title on the this syd of town, j-sec==Reason/cone(3wr), durbz i dont know much about the scene on that syd o town but in the Capital THE ANVILS, in the East ishaam/ supremacy and rest of em cities aint loud enough cant hear your shit!!!!!!
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i think its a cool concept for an issue and i dig the whole i dea of niggaz putting on tracks on this concept to see who can freaks it betta, i study in cape town and believe me driemanskap deserve the title on the this syd of town, j-sec==Reason/cone(3wr), durbz i dont know much about the scene on that syd o town but in the Capital THE ANVILS, in the East ishaam/ supremacy and rest of em cities aint loud enough cant hear your shit!!!!!!
1st post. welcome to AG 8)
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Fahfee,
Take the Freeway that takes you to KingWilliamstown until you get to the Breidbach turn. Take a left. Then a right at the stop sign. Then travel for about 5 km's till you are facing Bhisho and TBN is on your right after the parliament buildings also on your right. Take the next Right and drive towards TBN which is next door to the SABC Buildng. CKI FM is in there. One.
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I really can't say for many places, but Pretoria surely is a tough one....even if you had to choose producers or beatmakers...(whatever ppl calls us), it'll still be tuff!! :roll:
In my opinion, I don't wanna name names cuz I might be judged for that... :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nah people don't lie to yourselves.
The illest in pta is BLAKLEZ. Andy you know it as well as i do.
Tooo Fresh!
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"Your verse needs work like hobo's"
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LOL :D :D :D
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Code 031
#Zulu Boy
#Shon G
#Trial Vandeta
#Siyamatic
#Sky Wanda
#Moja Pooh (Dude is makin' ish happen with G, on production)
The rest Hahaha
EC
Middle Finger
T.O.P
WC
Terror MC
Ben Sharpa
Konfab
Driemanskap
Bra**e Van Die Kaap
GP
Third World Riders (I like other MCees- no homo- but no one has done it like the 3WR for me, nah, no play)
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EC
Middle Finger
T.O.P
but Aren't they based in Cape town.... :?
EC, eish.. maybe Abantu, J-Bux--but thats all PE.
places like East London (my hometown)....kuntswempu. Lifeforces?
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Code 031
#Zulu Boy
#Shon G
#Trial Vandeta
#Siyamatic
#Sky Wanda
#Moja Pooh (Dude is makin' ish happen with G, on production)
None of these cats except Siyamatic can touch Ewok, Raheim, Manelisi (This dude is too dope), Blaq / Blaq Hitilah, Bullet, That funny Ibutho cat - Dot.com.In fact Ibutho is almost the equivalent of Driemasnkap or vice versa - same energy, skill and rawness. gauranteed to rock shows. From your list, Siamatic is dope though.
EC
Middle Finger
T.O.P
Both not based in the EC. EC - Abantu, Izithunywa Zohlanga although one of them gets carried away when rapping in English and gets too deep. feel them though. they are true poets. Ramses& Wheza as well. I feel Trusenz as well, slept on him for a while.
WC
Terror MC
Ben Sharpa
Konfab
Driemanskap
Bra**e Van Die Kaap
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I'm with you on Sharpa, Konfab, Driemanskap. I would add TOP. WHAT ABOUT ILL SKILL. Dudes are mad tight. planet earth kills the beats and they always come with hot verses. that equals hot songs. Check out a track called lets do this produced by mizi. Banging. mad skill in the cape though - add to this list ORACLE FLOW, RATTEX, HYPHEN. if there has to be one king it would be either Ben Sharpa or Driemanskap though. BVK and POC are legends/ pioneers.
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GP
Third World Riders (I like other MCees- no homo- but no one has done it like the 3WR for me, nah, no play)[/quote]
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EASTERN CAPE
PE - XP, Y-Static, B-Mor, Persowna ID, MSP
Queenstown - jstPoetic
East London - Mr Lee
producers:
PE - Maz G, Tea, K Mantil, B-Mor
For more get the October issue of HYPE (its not out yet - only in October)
and check out Port Elizabeth in the Scenez section.
Word
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Cape Town -
Ben Sharpa, Konfab, Rattex (dude is crazy with the vernac punchlines)
JHB -
SOS backpackers, Nthabi, Golden Shovel
PTA -
Paradox, Chaos Diss-Order AKA Hus'sein, Destiny, Blaq Tag (O.R.E & Smash)
Oh yah, another one i forgot to mention from PE emcees is HISHAAM
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@Merchant: You could ad Raketi on that code 031 ish. I agree wif you on Manelisi/Mneli and Ibuthu, ja, dudes are as dope as f***
TOP and Rhamncwa aka Middle Finger I thot they from PE based in Cape Town, you know what I mean. But clarify, and Yeah, DP is a monster on that production, them beats, repping that WC ish, and ja, I feel Rattex and O Flow too, they cool
Who ever said S.A hip hop is a pa**ing phase must have been in their dreams, deaf or blind. Don't care who said it
And hey, ASD, you reppin' that PE too, son
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Rhamcwa and TOP and them people are always thought to have be from PE coz they speak Xhosa. Common error.
And hey, ASD, you reppin' that PE too, son
Thanks fo the support man, no doubt
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all these SO CALLED EC cats have not done JACK but reccord a few tracks or make sum lil a** beats that never made no national buzz or a single hit to their names.
they dont even qualify to be on the nominations list!
pleaseee!
ps. if u from PE and u only hot in PE, u dont qualify.
holler at me when u hot in EC, SA and IN AFRICA!
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all these SO CALLED EC cats have not done JACK but reccord a few tracks or make sum lil a** beats that never made no national buzz or a single hit to their names.
they dont even qualify to be on the nominations list!
pleaseee!
ps. if u from PE and u only hot in PE, u dont qualify.
holler at me when u hot in EC, SA and IN AFRICA!
So who runs EC? hehe
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1. PTA-ANVILS THEY STAND A HUGE CHANCE
2. JHB-(the new old school)Savage/Smerf/Smash&childakapoet. NEVER HEARD OF YOU3. DBN-im clueless sombody put dbn on the map please
4. E. Cape-???
5. W. Cape-???
6. North and NorthWest Prov-Konfab yeah!!
7. Freestate--TimelessworksRecords
watch this space
clearly u dont hit cosmos/slaghuis/1808/slashjam....etc
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all these SO CALLED EC cats have not done JACK but reccord a few tracks or make sum lil a** beats that never made no national buzz or a single hit to their names.
they dont even qualify to be on the nominations list!
pleaseee!
ps. if u from PE and u only hot in PE, u dont qualify.
holler at me when u hot in EC, SA and IN AFRICA!
So who runs EC? hehe
if all these dudes listed are considered KINGS in the EC. then i must be something way greater than i imagined!
IM LIKE THE SPOKESPERSON OF THE EC,the AMBa**ADOR, the KING OF KINGS!
jus in the past month ive put EC on 5 music videos,local and rest of AFRICA!
im the only cat reppin EC and puttin it on NATIONAL CHARTS!
i put the EC all over AFRICA on Channel O last yr!
go to Umtata and ask who STARTED the REVOLUTION THERE!
who got every mc in UMT on RADIO! shows!
im putting the EC out there! these niggas is keepin it IN THE EC. and still aint reppin it right!
yall best visit my restaurant in Umtata, and get a meal, starvin a** MC's.
ps.i'll be opening a hiphop store soon as well in Umtata real soon too so yall f***s can step ya gear game up too!
i dont care whose the tightest brokest lyricist! im the KING! PERIOD!
nobody's makin progressive moves like i am!
being a radio DJ dont count unless u on a MAJOR station. niggas think they runnin shit cos they DJ on a community station. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT!
come wit somethin more solid!
who u producin for? im not talkin bout ya whack friends.
who u workin wit? hav u collaborated with any REAL stars? ya boys round the block aint stars homey :wink:
who u reachin? really?
how many no.1 hits do u have NATIONALLY!?
how many countries are u exposin ya music to?
how much paper are u makin?
where has ya hustle taken u in the past few months/yrs?
niggas is not even standin still! they movin backwards!
catch up!
K.I.N.G
look out for the video...the greatest EC HIPHOP video of all TIME! REAL TALK!
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all these SO CALLED EC cats have not done JACK but reccord a few tracks or make sum lil a** beats that never made no national buzz or a single hit to their names.
they dont even qualify to be on the nominations list!
pleaseee!
ps. if u from PE and u only hot in PE, u dont qualify.
holler at me when u hot in EC, SA and IN AFRICA!
So who runs EC? hehe
if all these dudes listed are considered KINGS in the EC. then i must be something way greater than i imagined!
IM LIKE THE SPOKESPERSON OF THE EC,the AMBa**ADOR, the KING OF KINGS!
jus in the past month ive put EC on 5 music videos,local and rest of AFRICA!
im the only cat reppin EC and puttin it on NATIONAL CHARTS!
i put the EC all over AFRICA on Channel O last yr!
go to Umtata and ask who STARTED the REVOLUTION THERE!
who got every mc in UMT on RADIO! shows!
im putting the EC out there! these niggas is keepin it IN THE EC. and still aint reppin it right!
yall best visit my restaurant in Umtata, and get a meal, starvin a** MC's.
ps.i'll be opening a hiphop store soon as well in Umtata real soon too so yall f***s can step ya gear game up too!
i dont care whose the tightest brokest lyricist! im the KING! PERIOD!
nobody's makin progressive moves like i am!
being a radio DJ dont count unless u on a MAJOR station. niggas think they runnin shit cos they DJ on a community station. BEEN THERE,DONE THAT!
come wit somethin more solid!
who u producin for? im not talkin bout ya whack friends.
who u workin wit? hav u collaborated with any REAL stars? ya boys round the block aint stars homey :wink:
who u reachin? really?
how many no.1 hits do u have NATIONALLY!?
how many countries are u exposin ya music to?
how much paper are u makin?
where has ya hustle taken u in the past few months/yrs?
niggas is not even standin still! they movin backwards!
catch up!
K.I.N.G
look out for the video...the greatest EC HIPHOP video of all TIME! REAL TALK!
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@Cash, seeing that EC is a place of broke a** emcees( no disrespek), who are doing no move and all that, why ain't you doing it right. For instance, do what Fif did for Yayo and Banks (even thou they ain't that hot, but he placed them up there); BIG what he did for them Lil Caesar's of this world; Nelly what he did for them St. Lunatics, Eminem for D12, Snoop for 213 and DPG, you know. If you heading for heaven, take niggers wif you boy, you know, take homeboys. And, you know what. They won't just turn their back on you, like people usually do. It's a rare thing, but yeah it happens. Take 'em niggers son, umtata is a ma fo of a place to live if you got dreams, no job, no money. So take niggers
Imagine how many people you'll have on your back (i.e. from fans to groupies:lol:, emcees, and just the market in general).
Then, maybe people will agree with your claim. Just my opinion
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all these SO CALLED EC cats have not done JACK but reccord a few tracks or make sum lil a** beats that never made no national buzz or a single hit to their names.
they dont even qualify to be on the nominations list!
pleaseee!
ps. if u from PE and u only hot in PE, u dont qualify.
holler at me when u hot in EC, SA and IN AFRICA!
nah cash i think if 2 or more pips from ag know u then u can be nominated...some of the people nominated by agians i hav neva heard of them especially the EC and i am born & raised in the eastern cape... trusens i hav seen his vid but the rest like middle finga, top etc r not kings period....
be f***en honest to yoselves people ec kings r THE MONOPOLY
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8) this is gonna get real interesting
10-14 years ago,you never thought that this would in south africa
10 years from now..it will be some continental shit...
Yo Mizi good one home boy
to everybody in the competition for rulership...keep grinding and get yours .
My j-sec home boys.for the real niggas,yall know who you are
Threes in the air baby
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There is too much being misunderstood about hip hop in the Eastern Cape that I almost find it pointless to be schoolin those not in the know.....
But it never fails to amaze me how much the level of work has gone down and the level of talk has escalated. True, those that think they are eligible for this title need to step up and be counted. But remember the movement that is taking place here(I say here, cause I'm grinding here). Some of us have taken to marketing ourselves by what we have done and are currently doing for hip hop. Whether it be grooming the next generation of the game.....or providing platforms for those who need to sharpen up their skills aside from all the work we put in to push ourselves and our careers forward(radio,studio,touring, band, gigging etc....). Hey, I'll open a restaurant when all the EC MC's can afford to eat there fam. It would also make more sense to do this kind of thing when there was proof of all of this bullshit that cats are talking about "they have done". I know a lot of the names a**ociated with the heartbeat of EC Hip Hop......sadly not to many of them have been mentioned in the nominations I've seen. Meaning that the underbelly of this movement will stay concealed, as it plays it's role to protect the creature that is EC Hip Hop from harm on the gra**roots level. I just hope everyone knows that a true leader teaches how to follow.......
Cla** is in session.......
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As heads we got standards and now what level of abilities or connections-better yet exposure do we rate regional ''High and mighties'' kings? lets battle for it. Somebody do sumtin and get organisers...lets eat emceez for this shit and stop doing favours coz we drink or f*** the same line of chicks, get money together or grew up together..f*** dat sssssssssssshit
No studio gangsters deserve that shiit, bo ''so called conscious rapper or ol timer with some tired flows, but niggaz who go to verbal war and jumps out with new skills to show.
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look out for the Monopoly video comin soon!
its the knockout blow for ALL yall cats!
period!
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LOL LOL LOL LOL
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E.C -IZITHUNYWA ZOHLANGA OR JBUX
C.T-DRIEMANSKAP
JOZI-PROKID
DBN-IZIMBONGI
BUT THE KING SHIT I THINK PLAYED OUT AKUNABOZA EMSAWAWA
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its funny how ppl don't even mention the monopoly being the kings of E.C, which at the moment is the truth if you look at what they've done, the dudes you guys are mentioning don't even have a video, haven't even been on hype, not even a track on national radio, and they are the kings ?
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1. PTA-ANVILS THEY STAND A HUGE CHANCE
2. JHB-(the new old school)Savage/Smerf/Smash&childakapoet. NEVER HEARD OF YOU3. DBN-im clueless sombody put dbn on the map please
4. E. Cape-???
5. W. Cape-???
6. North and NorthWest Prov-Konfab yeah!!
7. Freestate--TimelessworksRecords
watch this space
clearly u dont hit cosmos/slaghuis/1808/slashjam....etc
Come on man don't tell me to watch this space. If I don't know you or never heard of you, you wasting your time trying to proclaim yourself king of GP Bee. F eezy has more hype then you, thats not even half of it man. You might be the big dog on Africasgateway or slaghuis or what ever but peeps don't know you dog. Only Soweto supports you, what about at least hearing you on national local top 10 ten charts. Lets see you on magazines, tv shows and videos etc.
I'm not trying to put a brother down but niggers need to stop preaching and need to practice what they preach. What, you think rocking cosmos/slaghuis/1808/slashjam is going to earn you the throne? You rappers kill me man....You keep on rapping to the same exhausted crowd. You repeatidly rock your shit to the same ears and you don't realise that you not expanding. You rappers like to hit slaghuis and get props but no sales or national appeal. Do you think when Snoop was recording Doggy Style he would get African, Ausrilian, Uk, Caucasian, f*** IT the world's teenagers rocking to his shit. No ways but his marketing had that vision. Thats what you rappers lack for real. No vision no f***en goals. You just want to be crowned cause you can flow and your circle of friends feel your shit. We don't believe you you need more people :roll:
If you look at how Kwaito blew up you would learn a few tricks. Kwaito blew up because it was every where, tv,radio, performances all over the country and major media coverage. This shit was all up in our face you had no option but to dig TKZEE, TROMPIES etc. Damn even White people know these peeps. Markets that were not originally part of that intended demographic rocked to Kwaito's vibes. Now tell me, how we gone grow with you only being big on cosmos/slaghuis/1808/slashjam.... I know these events happen in Soweto, which is good but very limiting. Only heads know you but you not a house hold name in the places you rock at.
Example: I gotta a lot of executive bitches in Soweto, I'm going to flip out my phone and ask them if they heard about Savage/Smerf/Smash&childakapoet, then I'm going to ask them if they know Maggz, 985, F eezy, Jozi and you tell me what they response is? Its pretty obvious if you ask me.
Like I said before I am not hating or trying to put you down. You can't just want to be things without pulling your weight and paying your does homey. My conclusion is, this post is not for you homey. You are an up coming artist who still needs to work on your buzz and hot product to crack the market. At this stage you not part of the game, you are an unknown. You need to get off your dick and get on the journey of becoming a king. Its a long road and you need to work on it homes.
quote: 50 cent ' I hate a liar more then I hate a thief, a thief is after my salary but a liar is after my reality' The worse you can do is lie to yourself and proclaim yourself king when peolpe have not appointed you and you have not faced Goliath.
We need to grow the indusrty and big talking is not going to get us there :wink:
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E.C -IZITHUNYWA ZOHLANGA OR JBUX
C.T-DRIEMANSKAP
JOZI-PROKID
DBN-IZIMBONGI
BUT THE KING SHIT I THINK PLAYED OUT AKUNABOZA EMSAWAWA
E.C -IZITHUNYWA ZOHLANGA OR JBUX (never heard of them)
C.T-DRIEMANSKAP (Okay)
JOZI-PROKID (if you read what Mizi wrote, prokid is one of the old skool cats)
DBN-IZIMBONGI (never heard of them)
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blablabla............
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Phil, go suck a dick you heard.
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No Homo!
.....children. :roll: