Post by: Ramorethetho on January 27, 2004, 03:34:00 PM
Starting with the best
1.Big L
2.Biggie
3.Jay-Z
4.Gangstarr
5.Aesop Rock
6.Nas
7.Mr lif
8.J-Live
9.Kool G Rap
10.Black thought But i think Immortal Technique is going to claimthis spot.
I dont want your input on my list , just place your list and leave the thread
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 27, 2004, 04:39:00 PM
Here´s my list:
1. Mr. Lif
2. Chino XL
3. Aesop Rock
4. Del tha Funkee Homo Sapien
5. Mc Paul Barman(Listen to His new album, he has a song thats the same played forward or backward, this is called a palindrome eg.A man, a plan, a canal, Panama!
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6. Motion man
7. Warcloud
8. Pharoahe Monche ( I miss Organised Konfusion)
9. Jedi Mind tricks( even though visions of Ghandi was shit)
10. Eminem(pre fame, cos now he fell off) (this spot could be taken by Danny K, cos I hear he´s got an underground album coming out)
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Post by: khoi on January 27, 2004, 05:17:00 PM
2) Prodigy of Mobb Deep – for combining simple lines and to make up “shit that gabs you”, eg He’s the one that Primo sampled on Common’s “Sixth Sense“ & many other songs. And for being second-to-none when come to “gun music”. Get all the Mobb music and check him out for yourself
3) Sticky Fingers from Onyx – for making me wait for his verses every time I listen to Onyx and the way he puts the emotions in his rap especially when he raps in story-telling songs like “Veronica” and “Why”
4) Biggie – well I know that people say he’s the greatest but to me I think people say that because he died while he was still hot. I honestly think that it’s a bit unfair to make him the GOAT. (that’s my opinion)
5) Common and Cormega –when it comes quotables the have a ton.
6) Kwabulawayo Kraal – for being in a cla** of our own.
7) Flabba from Skwatta Kamp – shinning in every tracks he raps on both live and in studio
8) Wu-Tang Clan – although I never liked Iron Flag and W but I feel they deserve to be here
9) Nas – although I think he’s overrated sometimes but he’s still one of the greats
10) Gang Starr – name any other tag-term as great as this
ps this list can change anytime for me, an mc is as good as his last album or the last song I heard from that mc
Post by: CaptainScti on January 27, 2004, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on January 27, 2004, 08:02:00 PM
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When will South African rappers/MC´s/Hip-hop fans ever learn that
JAY-Z is the SHIT.
I think Jay is actually hugely underrated, especially by the "UNDERGROUND" audience in this country. In the States i know for a fact, he has won over a lot of "UNDERGROUND" fans will albums like ,Reasonable Doubt, Vol 1. and the Blueprint.
Have u ever listened to these albums ? If not do yourself a favour and go listen to them right now, especially Reasonable Doubt. CLa**IC SHIT. Yeah i said it. CLa**IC. Ask anyone who knows something about Cla**ic albums, they will tell you.
The problem with Jay, is that he created the whole "bling-bling" ice rocking shit and he sold a lot of albums, and that´s why a lot of ya´ll don´t like him. Also most of his first singles are very radio-friendly.If you truly are a hip-hop fan, and you listen to lyrics and delivery, then there is no way u can say what u said. This is coming from someone who has been listening to HARDCORE hip-hop for 15years.
TO KHOI :
Nigga, i respect u so much right now, it´s ridiculous. Thanks for Biggin up Jay, and for recognising skill.One LOVE kid.
Oh and by the way f*** AESOP ROCK and all that NERD RAP SHIT. Big ups to Jay-Z, Big Daddy Kane, KRS-ONE, Special ED, Ice Cube, Nas, Tupac, BlackStarr,Common, Biggie, Organized Konfusion, N.W.A, Schooly D, Bahamadia, etc,etc, for keeping your music relevant and real.
And by the way Jay ripped Nas in that battle they had. But that´s another thread.
Let me leave u with this jewel, 3 verses by Jay from Dead Presidents :
Ahh, who wanna bet us that we don´t touch leathers
Stack cheddars forever, live treacherous all the et cetera
To the death of us, me and my confidants, we shine
You feel the ambiance, y´all niggaz just rhyme
By the ounce dough accumulates like snow
We don´t just shine, we illuminate the whole show; you feel me?
Factions from the other side would love to kill me
Spill three quarts of my blood into the street, let alone the heat
f*** em, they hate a nigga lovin this life
In all possible ways, know the Feds is buggin my life
Hospital days, reflectin when my man laid up
On the Uptown high block he got his side sprayed up
I saw his life slippin, this is a minor set back
Yo, still in all we livin, just dream about the get back
That made him smile though his eyes said, "Pray for me"
I´ll do you one better and slay these niggaz faithfully
Murder is a tough thing to digest, it´s a slow process
and I ain´t got nothin but time
I had near brushes, not to mention three shots
close range, never touched me, divine intervention
Can´t stop I, from drinkin Mai-Tai´s, with Ta Ta
Down in Nevada, ha ha, Poppa, word life
I dabbled in crazy weight without rap, I was crazy straight
Potnah, I´m still spendin money from eighty-eight... what?
Geyeah, know what? I´ll make..
you and your wack mans fold like bad hands
Roll like Monopoly, ad-vance you copy me
like white crystals, I gross the most
at the end of the fiscal year than these niggaz can wish to
The dead presidential, canidate
with the sprinkles and the presidental, ice that´ll offend you
In due time when crime fleas my mind
All sneak thieves and playa haters can shine
But until then I keep the trillion cut diamonds shinin brilliant
I´ll tell you half the story, the rest you fill it in
Long as the villian win
I spend Japan yen, attend major events
Catch me in the joints, convinced my iguanas is bitin
J-A-Y hyphen, controllin, manipulatin
I got a good life man, pounds and pence
Nuff dollars make sense, while you ride the bench
Catch me swinging for the fence
Dead Presidents, ya know
Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh, so be it
The Soviet, The Unified Steady Flow
You already know, you light I´m heavy roll, heavy dough
Mic macheted your flow, your paper falls slow
like confetti, mines a steady grow, bet he glow
Pay five dead it from blow, better believe I have
eleven sixty to show, my doe flip like Tae-Kwon
Jay-Z The Icon, baby, you like Dom, maybe this Cristal´s
to change your life huh, roll with the winners
Heavy spenders like hit records: Roc-A-Fella
Don´t get it corrected this shit is perfected
from chips to chicks just drivin a Lexus
Make it without your gun, we takin everything you brung
We cake and you niggaz is fake and we gettin it done
Crime Family, well connected Jay-Z
And you fake thugs is Unplugged like MTV
I empty three, take your treasure, my pleasure
Dead presidentials, politics as usual
Bla-ouw!
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Post by: CaptainScti on January 27, 2004, 08:19:00 PM
You can listen to 15 years of crap rap you know...
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on January 27, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
My 15 years of crap rap is better than your 2 years of Underground-scientifc-no-sense-making crap. I got 450 CD´s in my collection, 70% of them originals, how many do u have ?
How can u claim that
"That guy remains avarage and negliable when you talk about rappers with who changed the game" .
If he hasn´t changed the game then u has ? Obviously u didn´t read my 10 page reply, otherwise u wouldn´t have answered me with your 3 line reply. You didn´t come with nothing that disputed my facts. I´ll say it again, FACTS.That´s what i presented to u, and that´s all u can come up with for a reply ?
That´s what´s really wrong with this industry. All u CRACK BABIES , born in the mid-80´s are just f***in up the game. U think Aesop Rock is a lyrical GOD, have u ever heard of RAKIM, MC SHAN, KRS-ONE, BIZ MARKIE, ROXANNE SHANTE ?
They were all simple with theirs, but effective. That´s real hip-hop and let me tell u my friend, lyrically, Jay-Z fits that profile perfectly.
f*** IT, this game is so f***ed up now, i´m so close to calling it quits as a FAN.
Post by: Isis on January 27, 2004, 11:00:00 PM
1. nas
2. wu
3. killa priest
4. jay z
5. eminem
6. dmx
7. biggie
8. pac
9. holacaust
10. big pun
Post by: biz-ark-human on January 28, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
Tumi
Zubz
Sudan
Hymphatic
Isaac Krook´d
Fungus the mutated...
That other cat 4m Cashless (´we soldiers not civilians/born and raised in the jungle´ on Blaze da Brakes)
*Common Sense
*Guru
The other short cat 4m BMP
Burni (that sista 4m godessa)
My mind is dry right now, will think up of some more.
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 28, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
Ok, I suggest you listen to a little album called labour days. Have a listen to one song in particular, called No Regrets and tel me the man is not brilliant. I wont deny that Reasonable doubt is a nice album, but after that he fell off majorly. KRS and Mc Shan, now those are MC´s, and they provided one of the hottest battles in hip hop history, but placing Jay-z in the same category as these people is blasphemous and extremely stupid.
I´ll agree with you that Jigga has done alot to change the game, unfortunately for the worse. He is one of the main reasons that hip hop is seen as a culture that disrespects women and promotes violence and other garbage like that.
I could also write a ten page reply, but I think i´ve said enough.
Post by: morph on January 28, 2004, 10:30:00 AM
Big daddy kane
big L
lauryn hill
Bigg Juss
Krs One
Masta Ace
Blackstarr
Tumi
Outkast
Common
yo ten is not enough and it will take the whole day for me to decide who goes in or out
Special mention goes to the following
Biggie
Nas
Prime
Pharoah Monch
Killa priest
Canibus
LL Cool J
damn this is toomuch hella f*** it thats it
for now
Post by: briCK on January 28, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
i cant really make a top 10..it varries daily
but some cats that mUST BE ON EVERYONES TOP 10
Krs, Rakim, Common, Biggie or Nas or jayz
personally i think the best MC..for me for reasons mentioned before..for making me see things differently..rza...this man made me more aware of my surrounding and introduced me to reading..back in ´93..so his spot at number one MC for is rather biased...
1)MF DOOM ..in my entire hip hop life..never has one man done what he has done this nigga just cant be stopped from dropping cla**ic line after line..to verse after verse ..to albumn after albumn..this man is truely amazing a living lyrical legend..more of a lyricist that MC to me..but hey we using the term MC loosly here
rza m
common
krs
pharo
Ra
kool g
mos def
das efx
jay Z
biggie or nas
Post by: CaptainScti on January 28, 2004, 11:06:00 AM
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I´m not going to get into it with you. 2 years? I listen underground scientic crap? I´m Aesop Rock groupie? That´s very special powers you have there sir. Quick tell everyone which hand is holding my nuts?
Using American terms like crack babies and asking if I know who KRS-one shows why I shouldn´t even bother but I will.
Fact1: You stated one fact and that fact doesn´t support you argument you said he first singles are radio friendly i.e dumbed down for radio.
Fact2: You said he started the bling bling era. No he just prospered during that era. Who started it I dunno but I´ll give to Biggie, Puffy and Mase before him.
I replied with fact one...
He got off copying other people styles.
It is a well known fact that he got his name from Jaz. Hung around Kane when Kane was hot. Before reasonable doubt he was rapping like the Fu-snickers (sp) then piggy banked on Biggie until he died.
Fact2: There is a page full of Biggie and other ryhymes he plagarised.
Next time you want to debate refrain from making stupid comments like calling some one crack baby.
I don´t think Aesop Rock is genious anything.
Post by: khoi on January 28, 2004, 11:09:00 AM
All these Rap Activity Jam products don’t think before they open their mouths (or type in this case) - all them say that Biggie is the GOAT and that Jigga f***ed the game with his bling-bling rap, question it wasn’t it Big who said “Money, hoes and clothes all a nigga knows” in that line he goes against the values you’ll cats are so stuck up on and that’s not the only line. And the all say that MF Doom is real yet he also rap about wanting money, hell he even has a song called “Green Bags”. Then blame Jigga for f***ing the game up- you’ll cats is jealous
And Pyro hip-hop was fine up until Aesop Rock, Co Flow, Robber Room, Scienz Of Life and all that backpacker f***s came to play. Look how wack some of SA cats are. I haven’t and won’t listen to Aesop Rock- because there’s nothing worth hearing in his shit, the same goes for Rubber Room yeah bullshit like that.
;-)
Post by: Just Dee on January 28, 2004, 11:20:00 AM
Tupac
Common
Mos Def
Nas
Notorious B.I.G
KRS-one
Pharoah Monach
Killer Priest
Tumi... oh!! my
RZA
damn damn damn...too many mc´s to fit in a top ten...
I ain´t gonna say shyt, I know nothing about hip-hop :-]
Post by: khoi on January 28, 2004, 11:31:00 AM
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Captain , my Captain Jaz gave Jigga his name, same way your moms gave u your name what’s wrong with that? See stupid backpacker thinking right there.
Hung around Kane when Kane was hot- what’s wrong with that? Big hung around Puff back in the day another stupid backpacker thinking right there.
Before reasonable doubt he was rapping like the Fu-snickers (sp) – Rza sometimes raps like them, stupid backpacker hypocrisy right there.
Fact1: You stated one fact and that fact doesn´t support you argument you said he first singles are radio friendly i.e dumbed down for radio - So what? that’s stupid backpacker jealousy right there
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2004, 11:32:00 AM
Yesterday my lil brother told me Chingy can spit better than KRS :-o
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 28, 2004, 11:37:00 AM
Koi, you say you´ve never listened to Aesop, then why dont you give it a try? Take my advice and listen to Labour Days ot Float and tell me that he´s not a good mc. I´m not an Aesop groupie and by no means do I consider myself a backpacker or scientific MC.I just give credit where its due. The man has some of the nicest wordplay, metas and original concepts out there.Try listening to Paul Barman doing a palindromic rhyme and tell me that Jigga reciting rhymes he bit off Biggie is better. Listen to Del on Del´s nightmare or on the entire 3030 album or Both Sides Of the brain and tell me that he´s not one of the nicest out there. There´s a reason he´s been around since 92.
On the Jigga topic, if I remember the name of the website I´ll post the link, where he actually admits in an interview to having a ghostwriter . Someone has already posted the page with all the rhymes that he bit of BIG, so I´ll leave it at that.
By the way Rubberroom is the shit. I´m the shit. I am Pyro!!
Post by: khoi on January 28, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
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pls impress me and pull out another card on Jay-Hova cause i´m sick of hearing that cause alot of your rap heroes sound like someone eg Meta Mo or Lumba (the lead rapper from Rubber room sounds like Redman before Muddy H2O
;-)
Post by: CaptainScti on January 28, 2004, 11:56:00 AM
Captain , my Captain Jaz gave Jigga his name, same way your moms gave u your name what’s wrong with that? See stupid backpacker thinking right there.
Hung around Kane when Kane was hot- what’s wrong with that? Big hung around Puff back in the day another stupid backpacker thinking right there.
Before reasonable doubt he was rapping like the Fu-snickers (sp) – Rza sometimes raps like them, stupid backpacker hypocrisy right there.
Fact1: You stated one fact and that fact doesn´t support you argument you said he first singles are radio friendly i.e dumbed down for radio - So what? that’s stupid backpacker jealousy right there
Dude don´t embara** yourself...oh shit too late...
You´ve called me a stupid hyprocritical jealous backpacker. Name calling is petty. You´re out your legue...
Post by: Ramorethetho on January 28, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
I´m not a biter I´m a writer for myself and others
I say a B.I.G. verse, I´m only biggin up my brother
Biggin up my borough, I´m big enough to do it
I´m that thorough, plus I know my own flow is foolish
So them rings and things you sing about, bring ´em out
It´s hard to yell when the bar-rell´s in your mouth
I´m in - new sneakers, dual-seaters
Few divas, what more can I tell you?
Let me spell it for you
Double-U I, double-L, I-E
Nobody truer than, H-O-V
And I´m back for more, New York´s amba**ador
Prime Minister, back to finish my business up
I can all the negetive things u say about Hov in all his songs.
Post by: khoi on January 28, 2004, 12:07:00 PM
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yeah you right i have stoop to your legue to talk to cats like u
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Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 28, 2004, 12:22:00 PM
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sOMETIMES YOU JUST CANT HELP THE WAY YOU SOUND ( i SOUND LIKE I SHOULD BE IN A BOY BAND, BUT THAT´S ANOTHER STORY), WHAT YOU CAN HELP THOUGH IS NOT RECITING SOMEONE ELSE´S SHIT WORD FOR WORD AND JUST SUBSTITUTING THEIR NAME FOR YOURS.
sTOP ARGUING AND ADMIT THAT jIGGA IS SHIT.
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on January 28, 2004, 12:33:00 PM
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I replied with fact one...
He got off copying other people styles.
How did Jay get off by copying other people´s styles ? By "got-off" i a**ume u mean that´s his claim to fame,right ? Jay only started quoting other peoples lyrics from Vol.2 onwards, and by then he already had a Gold(RD) and a multi-platinum album(Vol1). So no, he did not get off by copying other peoples styles. And he gave a pretty good reason for doing that on the Black Album.
It is a well known fact that he got his name from Jaz. Hung around Kane when Kane was hot. Before reasonable doubt he was rapping like the Fu-snickers (sp) then piggy banked on Biggie until he died.
So what if hung around Kane ? What does that have to do with anything ? If you had a chance to hang around a legend like Kane, wouldn´t u take it ? It actually did him a lot good to hang around Kane, cuz that´s really his main influence. Jay-Z is like the new, polished version of Kane. It´s a well-known fact that he has been compared to him on a lot of occasions. So that means if you say Jay is average, then automatically that makes Kane average as well, right ? since they are so similar.
And why is it a problem as well that he was rapping like the Fu-Schnickens ? A lot of people where influenced by Das-EFX but nobody ever complains about that.People change their styles and flows every year. He found one and stuck to it.
And by the way it´s Fu-Schnickens, not Fu-snickers. U probably got that from the Nas Stillmatic Freestyle, and actually never even heard Chip-FU rap, huh ?
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Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on January 28, 2004, 12:50:00 PM
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Why is saying F#cuk Aesop Rock be a sign of ignorance ? If i don´t like him , i don´t like him. And i have listened to Labour Days, Bazooka Tooth and some of his pre-Def-Jux EP´s. I don´t like the dude, i think he is killing the art form. He tries too hard to come off as abstract. No one will ever be as abstract as the ABSTRACT PEOTIC himself(hope u know who i´m talking about).
And it´s not about making happy,radio-friendly music. Public Enemy,NWA,Geto Boys are probably some of the most radio-unfriendly groups of all time, across all genres, and i enjoyed their music. Their music had a prupose, it was relevant to it´s audience and it had direction. They weren´t just coming to the studio to just pop-off senseless garbage on the mic.
So Jay-Z being put next to KRS and SHAN is blasphemous ? How u figure that one out son ? Do you know that Jay has beaten a lot of old-school rappers in a lot of magazines rankings ? (The Source, Blaze, XXL, Rap Pages,etc,etc).
And i´m not saying that those magazines are the authority on hip-hop, but what i´m saying is that it´s a general opinion of a lot of hip-hop journalists, whom by the way,most come from the old-school, that Jay is ONE of the best rappers of all time.
And i agree with on the fact that Jay did change the game for the worst. But that´s not the issue here. The issue is if he is an average MC or not. And the answer to that is NO. Regardless of the subject matter in most of his songs, he still is able to flip it nicely. The problem with the game is that they all tried to immitate him, and they did it horribly. Tupac´s subject matter is very repetitive at times as well, but that doesn´t mean that he sucks. He stuck to his guns and did what he did, like nobody else could do it. That´s what hip-hop is about. Innovating your own thing,sticking to it, and beating all your immitators at it.
Case Closed.
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 28, 2004, 12:56:00 PM
Once me and Jigga were smoking some PCP and he told me that he wishes he could be more original and creative like I am, so he wouldn´t be just remebered as the guy who could bite everyone´s style, but as a real MC, who actually did something for the game.
Mr C, you think because he sold all those platinum albums that makes him hot. Well I´ve got news for you. The biggest purchasers of rap music are suburban white kids.(this is a fact, not something I made up, but something discovered in surveys among the american youth) The MTV generation. So selling triple quintruple platinum still doesn´t mean you´re hot. It just means you´ve managed to water down your sound to the extent that you´re appealing to thirteen year old pimple faced mtv watching, overweight, wannabe gangsta, horny, never been laid, white boys and girls and Mr C.
People in the hoods and on the street, where hip hop comes from hardly ever buy the shit, we just copy it. We´re just too poor. Please donate some shit to us.
Therefore the real heads will never go plat, cos they´re shit is just being bootlegged too much.
"you sold platinum round the world,
I sold wood in the hood" - Pharoahe Monche
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pls impress me and pull out another card on Jay-Hova cause i´m sick of hearing that cause alot of your rap heroes sound like someone eg Meta Mo or Lumba (the lead rapper from Rubber room sounds like Redman before Muddy H2O
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Post by: Blac Satyr on January 28, 2004, 01:00:00 PM
1.M.O.P
2.Ghost face
3.Roots Manuva
4.Defari
5.Rakaa (iriscience)
6.Ras ka**
7.Masta Ace
8.Quasimoto
9.Shabaam Sahdeeq
10.Planet Asia
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Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on January 28, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
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When did i ever say he´s hot cos his records sell platinum-plus ? Nowhere in my posts did i ever say that. The only time i mentioned his sales, was to prove to Captain that he didn´t "get-off" by copying from other people.Whether he goes diamond or copper is not the issue here. The issue is does he have skill. And the answer is a simple YES. he does. He is nowhere near average. He´s got wit,simple lyrics that actually go above most people´s heads(maybe that´s why you don´t like him, cos u don´t get his catch phrases) and a good delivery at that.
Then u turn around and tell me that´s why real heads never sell plat ? Let me give u a little history on album sales:
Slick Rick - The adventures of . . . - Platinum
Eric B and Rakim - Padi in Full - Platinum
NWA - Straight Outta Compton - Platinum
Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders - Platinum
Tribe Called Quest - Beats,Rhymes and Life - Platinum
Nas - Illmatic - Went platinum like 2 years ago.
Nas - IWW - 2xplatinum
Outkast - All their albums are multi-platinum
Onyx - Bacdafucup - Platinum
Redman - Malpractice - Platinum
Wu-tang - Multi-plaitnum
Fugees - The Score - Multi-Platinum
Slim Shady LP - Multi-Platinum
Das EFX - Dead Serious - Platinum
Ice Cube - All albums platinum
Scarface - The Diary - Platinum
and lots,lots more.
Are all these albums watered down, as u claim platinum albums to be ?
HELL NO.
Post by: kingdavid on January 28, 2004, 04:19:00 PM
Post by: khoi on January 28, 2004, 05:28:00 PM
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Post by: briCK on January 28, 2004, 06:20:00 PM
"Motherf***ers say that i´m foolish do you listen to music or do you just skeem thru it"
jigga has the ability to mislead people..Jay Z has no comerrcial appeal..but he has charisma and confidence that apeals to people.
"I got a husler spirit nigga period.checkout my hat yo peep the way i wearit checkout my swag yo i walk like a ball player no matter where you go you are what you are player"
for me the Jay z issue is a none issue i always refuse to get into jayz is wack, bites etc talks...oh and the Jay Z nas issue..NEVA i refuse
Post by: Anonymous on January 28, 2004, 07:09:00 PM
-Ted Cranium
-Lazy Sam
-Kolonel
-Ted Cranium
-Lazy Sam
-Kolonel
-Ted Cranium
-Lazy Sam
-Kolonel
-INM
Post by: fahfee on January 28, 2004, 11:09:00 PM
anyway, cause i´m bored:
TOPTEN MCs
(lyrics)
01 ras ka**
02 krs-one
03 common
04 nas
05 rakim
06 blackstar
07 cannibal ox
08 biggie smalls
09 gza/genius
10 j-live or cormega
(flow)
01 jay-z (that´s why dude can(and does) say shit when he rhymes, cause he can flow)
02 ghostface killa
03 CL Smooth (underrated!)
04 biggie
05 rakim
06 mase
07 mf doom
08 Q-tip
09 bigl
10 biggie
(charisma)
01 2pac
02 biggie
03 jay-z
04 ll cool j
05 ghostface
06 prodigy
07 busta rhymes
08 odb
09 method man+redman
10 mf doom
(freestyle)
01 common
02 supernat
03 chino xl
04 eminem
05 jayz
06 big l
07 hieroglyphics
08 blackthought
09 canibus
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Post by: capgundriveby on January 28, 2004, 11:50:00 PM
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Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 29, 2004, 08:55:00 AM
Hey Phafee, I was wondering why tone deff isn´t on your list of MC´s with flow.
This boy has one of the sickest flows in the game. listen to that we are the chapions track of his especially. he kills it.
Post by: CaptainScti on January 29, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
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Give me some Tone deff songs I wanna hear his shit
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 29, 2004, 01:01:00 PM
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on January 29, 2004, 01:13:00 PM
Check out the chinese dude called Jin also. He´s nice.
here´s another with some mp3´s. It doesn´t have we are the champions though. I´ll have to send you that one.
mp3´s
[ This message was edited by: pYROKINETIX on 29-01-2004 05:19 ]
Post by: briCK on January 29, 2004, 02:59:00 PM
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thanks for the links pyro
Post by: fahfee on January 29, 2004, 10:08:00 PM
I remember hearing about Tone somewhere... Jin is funny.Too bad some "heads" are too short-sighted that they can never accept that a chinese kid could be just as dope...
Really feeling Vakill these days, u peeped that?
Post by: SpogOne on January 30, 2004, 12:32:00 AM
Post by: fahfee on February 17, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/9/tonedeff.htm
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http://www.tonedeff.com
the song i really liked is freestyle over Kanye West´s TheChamp beat. Unique flow but does not deserve a place in my top10.
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Post by: Anonymous on February 19, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
"In a cla** by myself like a bitched up tutor hiding from Columbine shooters" - Vakill
"A cock-eyed bitches vision ain´t brave enough to cross ´kill" - Vakill
Post by: fahfee on February 19, 2004, 02:41:00 PM
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someone knows what´s up.