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Hip Hop Forums => Battle One on One => Topic started by: Lil Lookie on October 05, 2008, 10:33:39 PM
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Im Waiting.....
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Im Waiting.....
Whats up with everyone wanting to battle em crackboyz?? Are they that hot or something?
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keep holding ur breath nigga.
battling is so y-fm (ie. old school)
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Cash so u wouldnt dare battle me, we r 4rm da E.C. u mus cum down P.E. sumtym ur crew versus mine, den we will c whoz da king of da E.C. , Crackboyz vs G.M.C now dat wud be legend
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Enjoy school little one.
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Cash so u wouldnt dare battle me, we r 4rm da E.C. u mus cum down P.E. sumtym ur crew versus mine, den we will c whoz da king of da E.C. , Crackboyz vs G.M.C now dat wud be legend
Were both EC niggas so why dont we just BUILD and help each other instead of trying to destroy one another!
Dont u think a battle with me would end ur career before it even starts?
Why take risks like that?
And why do u think i wud willingly participate in bringin my own people down?
all i can say is Keep Hustlin and stay focussed on the REAL ISSUES in hiphop like Distribution,Promotion and Cash Flow. forget about battling! stay focussed.
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Cash so u wouldnt dare battle me, we r 4rm da E.C. u mus cum down P.E. sumtym ur crew versus mine, den we will c whoz da king of da E.C. , Crackboyz vs G.M.C now dat wud be legend
Wats good Lucas...: what does it (GMC) stand for?
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How da fuk u knw my name, G.M.C stand 4 Get Money Crew, cash thnx 4 the advice, wen r u planin 2 cum down 2 pe cash
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How da fuk u knw my name, G.M.C stand 4 Get Money Crew, cash thnx 4 the advice, wen r u planin 2 cum down 2 pe cash
Koli is in the EC right now hustlin Crack! Mthatha.
I'll probably shoot down Mthatha,Monti,Queenstown and hopefully P.E in Dec/Jan
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When u guyz r down here tell me on A.G. il organise a cypher
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When u guyz r down here tell me on A.G. il organise a cypher
Dont u get it The Crackhores aint into battles and cyphers, they just some marketing gimmick gone bad... real bad
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How da fuk u knw my name, G.M.C stand 4 Get Money Crew, cash thnx 4 the advice, wen r u planin 2 cum down 2 pe cash
ok...and here i was thinking...:
GMC wat it stand for...
Goats Murking Carrots
Gabbage Making Crackheads
Groupies Mailing Crackboyz
Greatest Monopoly Copies
GMC wat it stand for...
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Yo cash send me a monopoly track n i dnt want nigga plz
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Greatest Monopoly Copies
lmao
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Greatest Monopoly Copies
lmao
Nice. coming from a guy who cant even spell his alias correctly ;)
well at least u got one thing right, we are not into all that backpacker cypher/battle bullshit!
and please elaborate on the Marketing gimmick idea?
now thats interesting
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Deliverance iz scared 2 show a pic of himself coz he knw Kolli Will fuk him up da same way he knocked dat kid
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yes cash... yall arent even rappers... just a bunch of kids riding on the whole popularity of hip hop.
Your music is irrelevant, all u doing is copying whats already been done and claiming to be hot....
Yes, nothing is new under the sun but do u even try to be different... nope, not with all that fake bling u not...
P.S spelling of my name is intentional, crackhead
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yes cash... yall arent even rappers... just a bunch of kids riding on the whole popularity of hip hop.
Your music is irrelevant, all u doing is copying whats already been done and claiming to be hot....
Yes, nothing is new under the sun but do u even try to be different... nope, not with all that fake bling u not...
P.S spelling of my name is intentional, crackhead
its funny u say that were NOT RAPPERS cos id be insulted to be called a "rapper" nowadays, with all the Rapper-Broke-itis going on lol.
The thing is though, we dont only do hiphop, so what do u mean we are riding on the "popularity of hiphop"?
we also do dancehall/ragga (check out the Ch O awards this week - were nominated for BEST DANCEHALL).
we also have an rnb sensation - Jamal who will be droppin his video soon.
Were actually more focussed on ENTERTAINMENT. Our DVD's, ADS(look out for me in some tv ads soon),Were working on our first MOVIE, Clothing(were getting into that in a major way as of next yr!)
So really,hiphop/rapping is the LAST thing on our PRIORITIES as it brings the smallest portion of our income. and we clasify what we do as CRACK MUSIC, not hiphop, so we dont have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSO EVER to conform to the rules and guidelines that you have enslaved yourself to.
I really wudnt care less about hiphop.
Yall say its DEAD anyway right?
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Sounds interesting cash. Well done to you guys. And well done on advicing your homeboy there, he took it i see. This is some real isht. If only...........................................
I'd rather keep that comment.
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Wow Cashius is on TV ads now ..Keep tryin to piss him off so we can know of every hustle he's gettin up to..Big ups Mr..Yo i Still want to move that crack like i hollered on FB
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yes cash... yall arent even rappers... just a bunch of kids riding on the whole popularity of hip hop.
Your music is irrelevant, all u doing is copying whats already been done and claiming to be hot....
Yes, nothing is new under the sun but do u even try to be different... nope, not with all that fake bling u not...
P.S spelling of my name is intentional, crackhead
nigga what? who the f*** are you? who the hell does this cat thinks he is, 50 cent or sumthin?
you popped up from nowhere and you come here and swear at agians, what the f***? id be dammed if i can let this nigga ruin ag like that. get yourself a f***ing life man and do bunsness like we do on ag. you obsessed with cash, fine..ignore him if you feel like you hate his swag you bastd. we dont need your crazy bullshit out here.
f*** outta here miss obsesssion
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nigga what? who the f*** are you? who the hell does this cat thinks he is, 50 cent or sumthin?
you popped up from nowhere and you come here and swear at agians, what the f***? id be dammed if i can let this nigga ruin ag like that. get yourself a f***ing life man and do bunsness like we do on ag. you obsessed with cash, fine..ignore him if you feel like you hate his swag you bastd. we dont need your crazy bullshit out here.
f*** outta here miss obsesssion
Hahahahaha the Mad raper has spoken...
What are u upset that i insulted your hero... Nigga plz (pun intended).... Go suck on some balls sumwhere... This is Africashateway, not some groupie love forum
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we clasify what we do as CRACK MUSIC, not hiphop, so we dont have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSO EVER to conform to the rules and guidelines that you have enslaved yourself to.
I really wudnt care less about hiphop.
Yall say its DEAD anyway right?
Then y do u keep on complaining bout da bridge not playing yo shit and bout the music they play if u dont do hiphop music?
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we clasify what we do as CRACK MUSIC, not hiphop, so we dont have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSO EVER to conform to the rules and guidelines that you have enslaved yourself to.
I really wudnt care less about hiphop.
Yall say its DEAD anyway right?
Then y do u keep on complaining bout da bridge not playing yo shit and bout the music they play if u dont do hiphop music?
because they play "outdated hiphop". and they have not evolved with the times, which is kind of making the show seem irrelevant. and thats not a good look for all of us.
Our music is much MORE than hiphop, but it does contain elements of the artform called hiphop, so as a hiphop fan and listener my oppinion still matters!
theres nothing wrong with complaining if something is not right.
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we clasify what we do as CRACK MUSIC, not hiphop, so we dont have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSO EVER to conform to the rules and guidelines that you have enslaved yourself to.
I really wudnt care less about hiphop.
Yall say its DEAD anyway right?
Then y do u keep on complaining bout da bridge not playing yo shit and bout the music they play if u dont do hiphop music?
because they play "outdated hiphop". and they have not evolved with the times, which is kind of making the show seem irrelevant. and thats not a good look for all of us.
Our music is much MORE than hiphop, but it does contain elements of the artform called hiphop, so as a hiphop fan and listener my oppinion still matters!
theres nothing wrong with complaining if something is not right.
Nigga please man...we all know that the so called new hiphop is overplayed as it is...and its only good to the ears for the 1st few weeks and its definitely not timeless like yo friend da a** claims...
U better respect da bridge...y must it b lyk dat ada show dat's supposed to be in de building, the same show wer yo track debuted at de 2nd spot but was nowhere to be seen de following week...
wen did u start listening to the bridge to say something is wrong with it? something wud be wrong with da bridge if they start playing all dat crunk and nothing else...
and wen u say its not a good look for all of us, wat u mean by dat?
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i didnt say they had to play Crunk.lol
I understand that the Bridge caters for a different hiphop crowd than say Rhyme n reason.
thats not the issue.
But does it not bother you that they are playing OLD tracks and not doing enough work to get NEW artists that are dropping that type of hiphop?
Instead of playing Tribe Called Quest, couldnt they find a new track by Consequence, or Kids In the Hall?
Instead of that same Master Ace track they been slamming since 5 yrs ago, cant they play some Chammilionairre, or sum NEW LUPE!?
And please give Mos Def's - Travelling man a break now!
We been hearin it! get something NEW!
Give us some Andre 3 stacks!
Some NEW HOV!
T.I
Ross
Lil Wayne
Ice Cube got too many bangers on his new album!
The GAME is a beast! Play his records!
stop feeding us the stuff we all tired of hearin then using the excuse that we dont play CRUNK!
i mean really, Crunk is Lil Jon, Scrappy,Old DAvid Banner,Shop Boys and thats about it!
No one is even really doing Crunk anymore, but u still on that?
Im not talkin about Genre of hiphop, im talking about freshness(new albums,new songs).
it really doesnt matter to me what type of hiphop they play, but if i hear that f***ing Masta Ace track again!!!!! Lord help me :D
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P.S spelling of my name is intentional, crackhead
its funny u say that were NOT RAPPERS cos id be insulted to be called a "rapper" nowadays, with all the Rapper-Broke-itis going on lol.
The thing is though, we dont only do hiphop, so what do u mean we are riding on the "popularity of hiphop"?
we also do dancehall/ragga (check out the Ch O awards this week - were nominated for BEST DANCEHALL).
we also have an rnb sensation - Jamal who will be droppin his video soon.
Were actually more focussed on ENTERTAINMENT. Our DVD's, ADS(look out for me in some tv ads soon),Were working on our first MOVIE, Clothing(were getting into that in a major way as of next yr!)
So really,hiphop/rapping is the LAST thing on our PRIORITIES as it brings the smallest portion of our income. and we clasify what we do as CRACK MUSIC, not hiphop, so we dont have ANY OBLIGATION WHATSO EVER to conform to the rules and guidelines that you have enslaved yourself to.
I really wudnt care less about hiphop.
Yall say its DEAD anyway right?
Good work cash... but for Lil' groupie's sake... just battle him.
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What I don't get is why it has to be one or the other? Hip Hop wasn't born yesterday, I love those cla**ics you talking down about, they moved me and have a profound meaning to me and a lot of people, that shit is sacred, I listen to the new N*E*R*D, The Game, Young Jeezy, T.I., I listen to it and got the albums, but honestly I gets DOWN! to sounds of Brand Nubian, Super Lover Cee & Casanova Rudd, Tribe Called Quest, why we hating on Hip-hops past? I have kids looking STUPID! on the dancefloor, why they all dressed up pretending to have been there during the 80's, and they don't know the music, they just stare in awe, so Cash where were you the first time you heard Criminal Minded? Where were you the first time you saw Spike Lee's video for Fight The Power? I can tell you exactly where I was, what the weather was like, how I felt and all, same applies for your favorites Trap Muzik, Trap or Die and what have you, you shouil wear a gas mask next time you hit the stove to cook up that crack, cause those vapors seem to be going to your head, might wind up on one of Skitzo's Crackheads Gone Wild DVD's! ;D
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Ey cash galz r sucking up 2 u on A.G. how u feel about dat, i thnk dey chasing ur Money
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What I don't get is why it has to be one or the other? Hip Hop wasn't born yesterday, I love those cla**ics you talking down about, they moved me and have a profound meaning to me and a lot of people, that shit is sacred, I listen to the new N*E*R*D, The Game, Young Jeezy, T.I., I listen to it and got the albums, but honestly I gets DOWN! to sounds of Brand Nubian, Super Lover Cee & Casanova Rudd, Tribe Called Quest, why we hating on Hip-hops past? I have kids looking STUPID! on the dancefloor, why they all dressed up pretending to have been there during the 80's, and they don't know the music, they just stare in awe, so Cash where were you the first time you heard Criminal Minded? Where were you the first time you saw Spike Lee's video for Fight The Power? I can tell you exactly where I was, what the weather was like, how I felt and all, same applies for your favorites Trap Muzik, Trap or Die and what have you, you shouil wear a gas mask next time you hit the stove to cook up that crack, cause those vapors seem to be going to your head, might wind up on one of Skitzo's Crackheads Gone Wild DVD's! ;D
again im not hatin on hiphops past,thats not the issue!
i love my old collection of hiphop.
what im sayin is, if ur a radio dj hosting a hiphop show u GOTTA BE CURRENT!
U cant just come to work with ur old collection and play whatevers on ur ipod.
U gotta find NEW MUSIC for the poeple.
U cant just be lazy and play the same shit week in week out, year in year out!
n then justify that by sayin "We playin sumthin different from the others" lol.
U can still play sum different, but CURRENT!
GZA dropped Protools, Wu Dropped, Ice Cube has a banger out, Bun B out, G unit dropped a very UNDERGROUND album! Too Short dropped, Heltah Skeltah have a new one, n about Criminal Minded....when was the last time you listened to any NEW KRS? if u a fan? or did u jus like Criminal Minded?
Planet Asia got a new one out, The new LL Cool J is out but niggas is still playin "Doin it".
Do we hear any of these new tracks on the Bridge!?
Naw, all we hear is the OLD TRACKS by artists who are still puttin out new work!
Now ask urself, do yall respect old school hiphop albums, or do u respect the ARTISTS themselves, cos they been puttin out NEW MATERIAL, but yall just too lazy to find the stuff n support the artist beyond their first albums?
U playlisting based on ur 1990-1998 collection, instead of gettin in touch with what the artists are doing now
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we should have specialist shows for everything, but commercial media doesn't work like that.
naturally i support the bridge, headwarmaz and anyone else playing any form of hip hop, but i want a station that plays hip hop 24/7 with specialist shows for every genre. I feel insulted that one of the biggest genres of music in the world only has 2 or 3 hours a week dedicated to it!!
it leaves us all fighting over scraps and everyone's unhappy.
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we should have specialist shows for everything, but commercial media doesn't work like that.
naturally i support the bridge, headwarmaz and anyone else playing any form of hip hop, but i want a station that plays hip hop 24/7 with specialist shows for every genre. I feel insulted that one of the biggest genres of music in the world only has 2 or 3 hours a week dedicated to it!!
it leaves us all fighting over scraps and everyone's unhappy.
Now that would be mad nice...
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cash im feeling that k9 cover son, its dope, dude is looking mean as hell and with all that money man, that shit is gangsta keep it up baby, looking foward on that vid.
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Come to think of it...everytime i've heard of a crackboy being involved in a cypher, they spit something weak then had to quickly run back home to return mom's car before midnight... :-\
Then Cash goes and says something dumb like "We're not rappers", but his crue has a rap ulbum out,which ofcaurse they expect will sell ???
Now it makes sense why these cats dont wanna battle, couse realistically you cant battle an mc who's not really a rapper...
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Come to think of it...everytime i've heard of a crackboy being involved in a cypher, they spit something weak then had to quickly run back home to return mom's car before midnight... :-\
Then Cash goes and says something dumb like "We're not rappers", but his crue has a rap ulbum out,which ofcaurse they expect will sell ???
Now it makes sense why these cats dont wanna battle, couse realistically you cant battle an mc who's not really a rapper...
exactly!
as a dude who aint just a rapper, battling has a whole other meaning!
If u wana battle, lets battle BANDS! ie. Rubberbands nigga! STACKS!
MONEY! then Whips! then Kicks! then we can go on a bigger scale! SALES!
But if u just wana rap,cmon, i dont even write rhymes anymore, i really dont care bout 16's!
Id rather do a tight bridge, two hooks and throw in a 12 bar verse!
ps. we do NOT have a rap album out!correction!!!!!
We have hiphop/rap/rnb/dancehall/ragga/pop albums out!
We have DVD's out!
its more than just RAP. Its an entire business model based on entertainment and lifestyle, NOT HIPHOP!
and yes, they are selling in proportion to the resources we have at our disposal and the financial backing we put into each project!
Were seein our investment bring in returns and that has not been achieved even by record labels so far in SA!
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ps. we have never been invovled in a cypher. there have only been CLAIMS.
Jus cos a nigga run up on us n start rappin dont make it a cypher :D
n then the faggot runs home n on AG to brag about it.lol.
Ask urself,was there any money involved in these so called cyphers?
Was there anything at stake?
Then why wud we do it?
We got better things to do, like hittin on girls n pushin our products to be cyphering. hahahha!
Seriously, since we aint rappers we dont do what rappers do.
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O.K. Cash, since you have Hip Hop and Rap ulbums out, and you're not rappers...What axactly do you do on these ulbums ???
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O.K. Cash, since you have Hip Hop and Rap ulbums out, and you're not rappers...What axactly do you do on these ulbums ???
we do hiphop/rap/rnb/dancehall/ragga/pop like i said the first time air head :-*
So put all those genres together,our hustlers spirit plus our swag, n come up with a title to call us :D
but dont call us "rappers" eeeuww :P
U can call us DEALERS!
hows that muffincake :-*
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But Cash to stay at da top spot u got 2 b on ya toes and shit.which means improving lyrically and composing those special beats or else crackboys will be famous for being whack. 8)
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No need for non o that name calling shit Cash, we grown folks here...so stop acting like a little bitch!!
Now put your panties back on...
I get it, COLLECTIVELY, you dont wanna be labelled as rappers, even though you have some of your crew members that do rap. these are the people i was refering to...
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Come to think about it............. Cash is actually quite annoying.
No hate. Just an observation.
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Come to think about it............. Cash is actually quite annoying.
No hate. Just an observation.
You're quite slow aren't you?
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Im Waiting.....
Lil Lookie , sounds like no nokkie ever seen a real pussy? Lil kid's got big dreams , cash be his rolemodle it seems . Take my advice and be nice , coz you'll be eatting a** crack if your rap is wack. :)
* Jay grabs some vanish *
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Well you could say so coz I haven't really paid much attention to what he says...... he writes too much anyway.
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^^^ And he speaks for the entire crew most of the time... Its time he pays for bo Koli the kid and them's computer literacy cla**es so they can log onto AG and speak they minds...maybe we will pay attention to the dudes...
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But Cash to stay at da top spot u got 2 b on ya toes and shit.which means improving lyrically and composing those special beats or else crackboys will be famous for being whack. 8)
Improving lyrically for me involves getting more into SINGING and leaving RAPPING completely as it takes a much more sofisticated lyricist to write a VOCAL SONG than a RAP SONG.
And to be a better producer you need to move away from hiphop. ie. Timbaland
Awww, whats wrong muffin :-* why u upset now.
Collectively AND Individually - we dont just rap, we also sing,dance,produce and are songwriters in our own right.
Each member of Dem Crackboys are MUCH MORE than just "RAPPERS". (you stop with the namecalling,pls, theres no rappers here)
The Dealers is over here
The rappers are over there
Its on n Crackin over here
They broke n bitter over there
do the maths....we aint rappers! We Dealers!
ps. the rest of my niggas is doin what they supposed to be doin n im doin what im supposed to be doin.
We cant all be entertainin yall AG cats.lol. thats MY Job ;)
Only they can a**ess and give me feedback on my job and so far they are pleased so i really dont give 2 ducks what yall think.
I report to the Crackboys Administration, yall report to me. ;)
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LMaO^^
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But Cash to stay at da top spot u got 2 b on ya toes and shit.which means improving lyrically and composing those special beats or else crackboys will be famous for being whack. 8)
Improving lyrically for me involves getting more into SINGING and leaving RAPPING completely as it takes a much more sofisticated lyricist to write a VOCAL SONG than a RAP SONG.
And to be a better producer you need to move away from hiphop. ie. Timbaland
Awww, whats wrong muffin :-* why u upset now.
Collectively AND Individually - we dont just rap, we also sing,dance,produce and are songwriters in our own right.
Each member of Dem Crackboys are MUCH MORE than just "RAPPERS". (you stop with the namecalling,pls, theres no rappers here)
The Dealers is over here
The rappers are over there
Its on n Crackin over here
They broke n bitter over there
do the maths....we aint rappers! We Dealers!
ps. the rest of my niggas is doin what they supposed to be doin n im doin what im supposed to be doin.
We cant all be entertainin yall AG cats.lol. thats MY Job ;)
Only they can a**ess and give me feedback on my job and so far they are pleased so i really dont give 2 ducks what yall think.
I report to the Crackboys Administration, yall report to me. ;)
Nigga say something...u didn't say anything there....we all know that u r the pimp and the rest r yo crackbitches and they cant do anything without u...."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club"..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash"...nigga please
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
Cash, u r so knowledgeable business wise, leave that music bullshit and go join a big as corporation or something they can sure make a lot of cash out of your smart business mind....
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old school, new school! errbody's opinion all seem to have their own contradictory point of view...old school cats leave 'em the swag generation alone, n ya'll swag carriers go f*** on mad's balls wit ya crunk and elevatin of the game.
shit, why we fell in love wit the game in the first place?? it was that ol school rawness, not ur snappers n ballers.
i say u say wat u got to say, shit today aint hip hop, bop hop, maybe, hio hop?? not a chance!
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@ lady big - dnt u figure in ten years time, people who weren't born in the 90's will b bumpin to sumthin different to wat is on now? U sound unhappy like there was no hiphop b4 the hiphop WE fell in love with. no one is sayin like the popular hiphop now, bt wat does it help shootin it down? Do u think it'l b cool if we tel the future to keep on doin wat we are now and support wat they want and guide if we feel they losin the plot? Wat the 'old school' dnt realise is they ensure rebelliousness within the minds of the new if they shoot down wat the kids like. When u treat kids like kids and respect their views, they obey! Parenting 101! Its the old cats fault!
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Just who the f*** is this Rabbi guy, I hate f***ing Jews.
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nx. what the f*** was that for? rather keep those comments to yourself. that was EXTREMLY unnecessary.
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Just who the f*** is this Rabbi guy, I hate f***ing Jews.
this is an example of the type of thing that will get you a warning in future.
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Just who the f*** is this Rabbi guy, I hate f***ing Jews.
this is an example of the type of thing that will get you a warning in future.
Listen you f***ing cocksucker, what you breaking my balls for? I hate EVERYBODY in equal measure; niggers, spics, yids (like yourself) paddies, gooks, nips, chinks, pakis even some guido's (like
myself). Get the f*** outta here.
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@ Koli. i feel you brah, wat um sayin though is that new school seem to have a problem wit old school and vice versa, dont get me wrong i bump todays hip hop no doubt, but i still got respect for the gods who started the game. it just dont seem necessary for cats to be arguin bout whats better 90's hip hop or wat we bumpin today.
they is on a perpendicular angle. scre comparisons. like they said_ its elevation!
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Just who the f*** is this Rabbi guy, I hate f***ing Jews.
this is an example of the type of thing that will get you a warning in future.
Listen you f***ing cocksucker, what you breaking my balls for? I hate EVERYBODY in equal measure; niggers, spics, yids (like yourself) paddies, gooks, nips, chinks, pakis even some guido's (like
myself). Get the f*** outta here.
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
If Hype gets a hustler of the year category....they should nominate Dirty Money
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
If Hype gets a hustler of the year category....they should nominate Dirty Money
Or Give CRACKBOYS the DEC cover ;)
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
If Hype gets a hustler of the year category....they should nominate Dirty Money
Or Give CRACKBOYS the DEC cover ;)
Is Hip Hop your only hustle? how do you manage to always stay so phly? or did you inherit that gwap? ???
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
If Hype gets a hustler of the year category....they should nominate Dirty Money
Or Give CRACKBOYS the DEC cover ;)
Is Hip Hop your only hustle? how do you manage to always stay so phly? or did you inherit that gwap? ???
gwap! did u just learn that word or something?
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lol. u just dont understand anything about BUSINESS!
I handle PR/Marketing. u can call me the INTERFACE!
Eg....."we waiting for cash to get here..then we can get into the club" = simply because i am the one who liases with the club owners and promoters..."I cant comment on the monopoly album..i'll liv dat to cash" = cos i handle the marketing and promo of the projects.lol He does the inside job, the shit u never see! i do the PUBLIC stuff,the shit u can interact with.
Enrol for a course or sumthin man. learn a bit. read a book.lol
Division of labour. Dig into that concept.
Now yall niggas with ur crews = everbody wants to talk at the same time, everybody wants to do everything. lol. everybody wants to be seen as the BOSS!Its the main reason why yall fight over everything EXCEPT for money.hahahahhahaa.
Like i said, all comp[laints,compliments,whatever, u report them to me, i will report then to my respective shareholders and role players within the Crackboy Structures.
Seems to be working for all of us already.
If Hype gets a hustler of the year category....they should nominate Dirty Money
Or Give CRACKBOYS the DEC cover ;)
Is Hip Hop your only hustle? how do you manage to always stay so phly? or did you inherit that gwap? ???
gwap! did u just learn that word or something?
Hating is a disease....and you need to be quarentined :P
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Hating is a disease....and you need to be quarentined :P
l'il nigga please. buzz off. go learn another word
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Hating is a disease....and you need to be quarentined :P
l'il nigga please. buzz off. go learn another word
Famous last words......is that phrase in your hater 101 manual aswell? :-X
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Hating is a disease....and you need to be quarentined :P
l'il nigga please. buzz off. go learn another word
Famous last words......is that phrase in your hater 101 manual aswell? :-X
ekse f*** off. cash is waiting to give u the lesson on gwap you wanted. maybe u can learn how to create bullshit to warrant hate l'il shit
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Hating is a disease....and you need to be quarentined :P
l'il nigga please. buzz off. go learn another word
Famous last words......is that phrase in your hater 101 manual aswell? :-X
Nigga u showin signs of weakness.....join a support group :P
ekse f*** off. cash is waiting to give u the lesson on gwap you wanted. maybe u can learn how to create bullshit to warrant hate l'il shit
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Join a support group.....u got a serious problem
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Is Hip Hop your only hustle? how do you manage to always stay so phly? or did you inherit that gwap? ???
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male groupies are so rare...i neva thort i'd witness such a display 1st hand,lol
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what the hell is gwap any way?????
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I got a lot of hustles, unfortunately there wasnt much to inherit.
but hopefully my kids'll have a huge amount of gwap in their inheritance after im done milking the game for all its got. ;D
dont worry bout the haters. Worry bout gettin paper.
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@ lady b.i.g - the reason is simple. When the new cats came thru, they got shunned by the older generation. ridiculed and essentially ostracized! Bcoz they didnt do things the same way! So they had to develop their own school and hustle their own connects. Bcoz of that there, it bcame a competition. a "f*** me? f*** u then!" thing. Now that the tables r turnin, the bitterness from the old school cats is apparent. they feel they paved the way for these new cats and therefore deserve respect. New cats feel like them nucca's tried to shut them out and can go to hell coz they dnt owe them nothing. Thats y the battle is so drawn out. The old school didnt think the new school cud do it and they did! The revolution was all televised!
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edIT, Boreta and people like that are the new school of hip hop. They have literally changed the sound, not put new voices in secondhand casts. The rest are just lounging in the pop bubble of western greed mislabelled as hip hop to suck the lifeblood out of urban, largely black, youth. All that glitz and shit while the world gets worse and babies get hungrier. Call it what you want to from here it looks like someone's having a good laugh.
The new school is off the radar as is the old, the rest, is POP. No hate just fact. I like pop too sometimes (okay never but not because I forcefully don't), but just because you were fooled by the label on the bottle don't think I will be. I'm being simple but it's not as simple as you put it out to be I don't think.
I see generational links all the time. The split between the old and new school is imaginary, it's like pretending to have obstacles. Make good music people will love you. Whatever it is. Stop whining about being rejected by cats on computers and focus on your tracks and the rest will fall away. I learned that shit from a sixteen year old.
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edIT, Boreta and people like that are the new school of hip hop. They have literally changed the sound, not put new voices in secondhand casts. The rest are just lounging in the pop bubble of western greed mislabelled as hip hop to suck the lifeblood out of urban, largely black, youth. All that glitz and shit while the world gets worse and babies get hungrier. Call it what you want to from here it looks like someone's having a good laugh.
The new school is off the radar as is the old, the rest, is POP. No hate just fact. I like pop too sometimes (okay never but not because I forcefully don't), but just because you were fooled by the label on the bottle don't think I will be. I'm being simple but it's not as simple as you put it out to be I don't think.
I see generational links all the time. The split between the old and new school is imaginary, it's like pretending to have obstacles. Make good music people will love you. Whatever it is. Stop whining about being rejected by cats on computers and focus on your tracks and the rest will fall away. I learned that shit from a sixteen year old.
word...that's how it has found such broad appeal, it is POP. its not to say people don't enjoy it, most people will always enjoy POP and therefore there's a lot of money to be made from it. bt the truth you highlighted above is that it lacks a crucial ingredient, it does not address the reality of the world we live in.
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@ born - dude.. U jus reali said nothin besides callin wat we agreed was new school hiphop, pop! I dnt care wat u choose to define it as bcoz thats nt the debate! Now, i believe i'm one of those who easily blends wit old skul and 'pop' cats. I'm not cryin bout it, i'm cool. I'm merely tellin u as far as i've observed, and i'm pretty deep in so i think my opinion is educated. Take it or leave pa! Another thing, callin it Pop, tells me cats have achieved wat they set out to.. Its short for POPULAR! I doubt very much they were lookin at caputurin a niché market. Now dig this, lets not digress. As the definition for THIS exchange of views has been set. Wat u're sayin is another argument all together.
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im a POP STAR!
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I actually think the so-called 'new school' enjoy believing that there is something to rebel against. what they seem to fail to grasp is that they aren't the avant garde, they are merely following a pop trend.
(http://www.valuebasedmanagement.net/images/picture_rogers_adoption_innovation_curve.gif)
The Rogers Innovation curve is a model that cla**ifies adopters into various categories, based on the idea that certain individuals are inevitably more open to adaption or innovation than others.
A lot of our South African 'new school' cats are either in the 'late majority' or 'laggards'. Some of our better 'new school' cats might just about make it to the tail-end of the 'early majority' (if we're being generous). Remember, I'm talking globally here. You can't be proud of yourself because you're the first rapper in SA to do a Tippy Toes track.
My point is that if you do pop music, just be proud of it - don't try and make it something it isn't. Do you think Britney or Justin are ashamed of themselves? Of course they aren't!
(I've just realised I should have posted this in the Originality thread)
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im a POP STAR!
hahah,,, you read my mind 8)
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Fair enough maybe I spoke in anger but I do believe in what I say. Cash you're not a popstar you're a musician with a serious hustle this you have proved at length, you just talk a lot of trash which in essence is a good thing for any crew but gets varied responses from different people. The point of what I was saying in case you missed it for fear of imagined Crackboy victimisation is that the divide is imaginary. Sure Souljaboy got dissed by Ice T but who gives a f*** what he has to say anyway, he sold it years ago.
Look at Jozi for instance, there's a clear example of the old and new collaborating. Whether I like their music is immaterial but you can't take Ish's POC history away from him nor ignore the fact that he is working with seriously young cats a lot of the time, happily minus the odd butterknife incident here and there. I'm sure there are other examples.
I do not see how this is a digression, I do not make you choose what to focus on. A digression would be to say hard luck to Jozi for missing out at the MOBO's but yeah, I can't tell you the names of more than two of the songs. My bad.
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@ planet - sum cats need to stop tryina play god! If everyone does wat they do and shuts up about wat the next is doin.. We'd not b talkin about this. Bt thats in an ideal world. I have first hand experience of how it is on both sides of the fence.. 'New school' cats aren't disillusioned. Trust me!
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I evolve directly proportional to fashion/business/and POP(ie.POPULAR) trends ;) and im proud that i do dat HipPop!
I LOVE BEING A POP STAR! i live,breathe,sleep hipPOP!
but the reason is not because i am brainwashed :D
the reason is because it is the industry i CHOOSE to trade in. It is where i am comfortable and have a healthy growth prospective.
There is more room for creativity and expansion in this market.
This is where i can BE ME!
It would be a bad business move to trade in the non-existent hiphop industry where the producers fail to cater to the consumer, but still expect customer loyalty ;D
As we have witnessed over the last 10yrs,this market has little or no growth and capital gains are an illusion. Name ONE SA Hiphop(not HipPop) artist who has grown wealthy financially, who has been trading in this market for the past decade.
And yes, i dont give a flying fishbone about any oldschool cats who are not co-signing the new school FULLY!
People like Lee, a lot of YFM oldguard, and MOST of yall UNDERGROUND NIGGAS!!!,etc. are really trying to put the breaks on hip-pop and im sending out a warning! YOU CANNOT RUN FROM THE INEVITABLE! either u with us FULLY, or you WILL BE FORCED INTO IRRELEVANCE!
this is a matter of ANC SPLITTING proportions!
So YES! it is all real.
We came this far with nothing but "friction and ridicule" from the ones who were supposed to be paving the way!(with the exception of a few niggas) they left us nothing to inherit! nothing to grow from. So we took our own direction and now were planting our own seeds on the foundation we have laid ourselves!
I got no beef with nobody, as long as you let me freely trade without trying to slow me down cos i have earned my space. Now niggas wana tell us what to do in OUR SPACE. Life is too short for you to be worried about my space when u got ur OWN space to take care of.
Really, u cant tell me nothing *Jeezy adlibs here please*
And YES, I AM A POP STAR!
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@ born - i dig u. I'm talkin generally here. Plus, i can't tel u i kno how Ishmael ended up wit bongz, les and lu. It cud b for the most sincere reasons or it cud have been a business proposition. He was amongst a numba of cats backstage at Ba**line visibly enthused by tumi's actions. I dnt care wat he's in it for. Bt i've learnt to depend on myself coz i wasnt given the comfort of having older cats to show me the way. No crackboys!
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Hola pop star! Lol!
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I LOVE BEING A POP STAR! i live,breathe,sleep hipPOP!
but the reason is not because i am brainwashed :D
the reason is because it is the industry i CHOOSE to trade in. It is where i am comfortable and have a healthy growth prospective.
There is more room for creativity and expansion in this market.
This is where i can BE ME!
etc.
And yes, i dont give a flying fishbone about any oldschool cats who are not co-signing the new school FULLY!
People like Lee, a lot of YFM oldguard, and MOST of yall UNDERGROUND NIGGAS!!!,etc. are really trying to put the breaks on hip-pop and im sending out a warning! YOU CANNOT RUN FROM THE INEVITABLE! either u with us FULLY, or you WILL BE FORCED INTO IRRELEVANCE!
this is a matter of ANC SPLITTING proportions!
So YES! it is all real.
We came this far with nothing but "friction and ridicule" from the ones who were supposed to be paving the way!(with the exception of a few niggas) they left us nothing to inherit! nothing to grow from. So we took our own direction and now were planting our own seeds on the foundation we have laid ourselves!
I got no beef with nobody, as long as you let me freely trade without trying to slow me down cos i have earned my space. Now niggas wana tell us what to do in OUR SPACE. Life is too short for you to be worried about my space when u got ur OWN space to take care of.
Really, u cant tell me nothing *Jeezy adlibs here please*
And YES, I AM A POP STAR!
1. You need to get over that shit.
2. If you are a pop star then why are you always commenting on the hip hop market/ industry? If you are pop, I don't have to worry about who's rich from hip hop, just tell you that your real competition as you've just defined (Jozi, Danny K, maybe even people like Tasha Baxter) are who you need to be taking shots at, not playing small on hip hop forums.
3. Thank you for making my day. I thought I was the only person who posted total garbage when I post without thinking.
Stop imagining beef, you're digressing B.
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1.Im on medication for that ;)
2.when i comment on hiphop, u must realise that it encompa**es POP music to a large extent.
3.yes thinking is boring, the only difference btwn you and me is that i speak from the heart! you speak from the arse :D im kidding. lmao. jus thought id throw a lil humour in if you dont mind ;)
we are ALREADY doin what the older cats were supposed to do for us.
Look at how weve paved the way for MVT(Probably the Hottest new group in SA hiphop hands down), The V.I.C and RnB dude JAMAL!
They now have it WAY easier than we did. Why?
Cos we welcome NEW TALENT! NEW COMPETITION! NEW WAYS OF DOING THINGS! we open up shop, THEN KEEP THE SHOP OPEN! we dont close the doors behind us. SHIIIIT! it took a lot to break them doors down in the first place!!!
unlike dem fossil a** niggas who show nothing but FEAR and MISUNDERSTANDING when we came out n try by all means to shut shit down!
Tumi acted out of obligation to those influences(old school mentality),thats why he stepped out of character like that! I respect dude cos i know he aint that type of person and he called me and apologised nobly. I understood the pressure he was under to ACT on behalf of the oldguard. it wasnt his call.
So to the SHOT CALLERS. im speaking directly to yall.
Let us go about our business freely. We do not answer to UR rules. We are playing a different game so we do not feel any obligations to follow your protocol.
Accept that and move on! Or we will start employing OUR protocol for such circumstances.
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1.Im on medication for that ;)
3.yes thinking is boring, the only difference btwn you and me is that i speak from the heart! you speak from the arse :D im kidding. lmao. jus thought id throw a lil humour in if you dont mind ;) No worries at least I know my arse beats your heart for sense hands down. 8)
So to the SHOT CALLERS. None of these people have ever gotten in your way. I'm saying you listen too much to archivists and music listeners, while anybody even on AG actually active in music (largely) in whatever form has been mad respectful, if a little annoyed at times. You making this shit harder on yourself than need be. Take a step back for a minute and think about who really gives you any shit, and what they really do for anything that interfaces with you directly. I think that despite all your bravado you mad sensitive about shit that you should be taking in your stride, and no !!!!! OR CAPS or ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D will really hide that. Seriously man.
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Pop is popular music son. It encompa**es all genre's of music. Pac is a pop icon like it or not. B.i.g, eminem, 50, soulja boy, bow wow, ll cool j, snoop.. The list goes on! All these people r rappers in essence! U gon tel me soulja boy dnt rap? U'd b lying! He dnt rap like pac! True! He rap like soulja boy! Speakin of formulaic.. How many cats u like sound like other cats? L.e.s mite not b the first cat to rap bout tippy toes like ur favourite rapper aint the first to say wateva he sayin! and i dnt even like tippy toes! Bt i take my hat off to l.e.s coz he doin his thing. Bongz aint the first person to vo-cord his shit bt FIRE is.. well... FIRE! There r double standards wen cats adjudicate originality. if the hiphop u do, wateva type of hiphop it is, is liked and bumped by enuf people.. It automatically becomes POP!
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@ planet - sum cats need to stop tryina play god! If everyone does wat they do and shuts up about wat the next is doin.. We'd not b talkin about this. Bt thats in an ideal world. I have first hand experience of how it is on both sides of the fence.. 'New school' cats aren't disillusioned. Trust me!
@ koli - no one is trying to play god. what is irritating, and factually incorrect, is the view constantly being touted by your camp, that if you're not doing pop, then you're irrelevant.
All i'm saying is that there is no need to create an artificial divide between 'old skool' and 'new skool'.
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1.Im on medication for that ;)
3.yes thinking is boring, the only difference btwn you and me is that i speak from the heart! you speak from the arse :D im kidding. lmao. jus thought id throw a lil humour in if you dont mind ;) No worries at least I know my arse beats your heart for sense hands down. 8)
So to the SHOT CALLERS. None of these people have ever gotten in your way. I'm saying you listen too much to archivists and music listeners, while anybody even on AG actually active in music (largely) in whatever form has been mad respectful, if a little annoyed at times. You making this shit harder on yourself than need be. Take a step back for a minute and think about who really gives you any shit, and what they really do for anything that interfaces with you directly. I think that despite all your bravado you mad sensitive about shit that you should be taking in your stride, and no !!!!! OR CAPS or ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D will really hide that. Seriously man.
what can i say, im a sensitive thug. can one of the ladies please give me a hug.
thnks for the words B, ps. yes ur arse is a force to be reckoned with judging by the shit that keeps comin out of it ;)
hahahahahaha.
ps. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D AND SUM CAPS FOR THAT a** ;)
TGF!
lol. Koli, i dont think D will ever understand that the ultimate destination he is taking Ben Sharpa to is POP STARDOM :D
The road leads to ONE FINAL destination
no matter what, if D does a good job, Ben will inevitably become a POP STAR. just like ME ;D
in fact, Ben and all hiphop purists(if they become successful) will join us in the HIP-POP hall of fame :-*
Ur all Welcome nyuugggaaaaaz
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Well, i've reached my "pr targets" for the day. so i am releived of my duties till monday.
More seriously and jokes aside. We are approaching the festive season and it will be very interesting to see who takes advantage of the increase in buying power from the youth and the willingness of consumers to spend money they dont have moving into december.
Or will the slump in the markets cause consumers to slow down this year and hold back from spending? How will this affect the already low consumer power of our hiphop/pop products?
I think we(Crackboys/DC Ent., Pioneer Unit, The majors,etc.) all have a huge problem which needs very innovative processes to overcome.
We are in the business of selling music. How will we do this with the consistent hurdles, AND the latest events in the financial markets,the political climate and the Haterade phenomenon going on in South Africa?
We have a common interest here. Id like to know what everyone else is doing in preparation for the next few months.
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Lol! So wat u think about wat cash jus said Pleezy? Wat i think u mite then b gettin cagey abt brotha, is the meaning of it. Wen Cash means wen he says if u arent doin 'pop' u're wastin time or wateva.. Is that, the point of makin music the way we all do is to have it received on a global scale and successful! Now if thats nt wats on ur mind, then by god, u r wastin time! Do it for u and ur friends then and contradict urself. A lotta people front wen their shit isnt as wel received as theyd like and hide behind the, 'this is exclusive music banner'. We aint sayin do it the way we do.. Bt dnt front like our goal aint the same! Feel me?
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@Koli - there is a difference between being 'popular' and making 'pop' music. my point continues to be that you can be 'successful' (make a living / have a fan base) without making pop (formulaic derivative) music.
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@ planet - u keep on speaking of invisible lines that r being made up.. Dawg, we dnt worri bout that shit nomore. Cats dnt even talk abt it.. Crackboys that is! But i know wat I'M talkin bout. With all due respect D, if u haven't been in that position, how cud u resolve its fabricated? I can tel u story's bout how many 'influential' people have told me(koli) to quit the crackboys and do spit a certain way they heard on a certain song and they'd roll wit dat. bcoz the cboys r too flashy and too loud, talented as they r! A lot of cats(heads) didnt pay me any mind until the anvils joint even tho its the same koli frm the first monopoly tape. So the lines r there brotha! I'm cool.. Bt i kno wussup.
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As ive pointed out.the climate has become colder and more barren with regards to selling music. and with any business in fact.
We will now see what we call DOWNSCALING in major corporations.
Now with music i see the need for a DOWNSCALING as well.
I think you cannot justify investing in an artist anymore, if the artist does not give you a POP HIT. you cannot affort to lose on your entire investment anymore. its not fair on you and your family. The artist and the artists family.
Every artist now needs to MEET the business requirements. ie. produce a product that can be consumed by the largest market. Why? because this is the most likely way for you to bring back the Capital that has been used to "break" you into the scene.
videos,photo shoots,cd covers, clothes, travelling costs, food and shelter do not come for free. and they are becoming more costly.
These are only the IMMEDIATE costs in signing an artist.
So the key now is to maximise your potential gains!
Make the most marketable music, but still do it creatively and true to yourself as an artist(for the people).
U cannot be an artist for yourself and your friends anymore.the stakes are high(er).
If at this critical time there is no understanding of this. then truly, our labels will die.our artists will have no platform to release material.and god forbid, precious old hiphop, will cease to be a viable means to feed your children.
I used to say "Lets make HITS" and meant it as a matter of urgency, now it has become a matter of necessity.
Things will get worse before they get better!
Do it for the people. The people will reward you. and only once you claim these financial rewards, can you afford to do it for yourself.
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I feel u. People gotta like it tho. A lot of people! Like i do music that i like and i figure a lot of people will like bcoz i'm part of that demographic! I know thats not formulaic.. u wil liken it to something u've heard be4 bcoz i have influences and idols that have moulded me into the artist i am but u'l b able to tel me apart! Hell, u mite even hear a lil of them in me depending on how strong the influence is.. does that make me formulaic? And i mean mayb a pop icon like michael jackson or sumthin. I hear wat u sayin and i agree.. Bt b unbiased abt ur view!
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I think you cannot justify investing in an artist anymore, if the artist does not give you a POP HIT. you cannot affort to lose on your entire investment anymore. its not fair on you and your family. The artist and the artists family.
i don't agree. it's not all about 'hits'. there's not one 'hit' on B. Sharpa, but it's already had all it's costs covered from licensing deals (and it only came out on wednesday!).
You keep saying we can't do it, but we've been doing it!
we've made good money this year off licensing - we have even bigger and better deals in the pipeline - and that's off one 'underground' CD with no radio play. by the middle of next year we'll have 8 major releases earning us and the artists money.
there's a market for 'good' music out there. you don't have to make pop music, trust me. I've got nothing against pop - you and your girl are gonna be doing the scooter this summer to rattex's 'get down' - but it's not the only way!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXXBjtTXPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXXBjtTXPk)
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We make good music! The way we want! We know the ma**es will like.
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We make good music!
No, you really don't.
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can we get figures d?
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Lil Lookie still waiting on his battle people.
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I think you cannot justify investing in an artist anymore, if the artist does not give you a POP HIT. you cannot affort to lose on your entire investment anymore. its not fair on you and your family. The artist and the artists family.
i don't agree. it's not all about 'hits'. there's not one 'hit' on B. Sharpa, but it's already had all it's costs covered from licensing deals (and it only came out on wednesday!).
You keep saying we can't do it, but we've been doing it!
we've made good money this year off licensing - we have even bigger and better deals in the pipeline - and that's off one 'underground' CD with no radio play. by the middle of next year we'll have 8 major releases earning us and the artists money.
there's a market for 'good' music out there. you don't have to make pop music, trust me. I've got nothing against pop - you and your girl are gonna be doing the scooter this summer to rattex's 'get down' - but it's not the only way!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXXBjtTXPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXXBjtTXPk)
by COSTS u mean production,distribution and manufacturing costs? wow, u gotta school me on the PM on how u doing that. Its not easy.
lol.D. good music is a pre-requisite. We ALWAYS talk in terms of that! or are you implying that POP music is all BAD :D
I think if youre making all these good moves ur artists must reward you with at least one HIT RECORD per album. YEW can do it.
@Rob, you clearly have not gone through our catalog. Lets not let this info sharing thread deteriorate with your snide comments
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
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I'm a journalist. I make my living off snide comments. And right now, the Crackheads = cannon fodder.
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
lol. sales figures please. just want to see how far ahead of mad rapper yall are so far
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Lil Lookie still waiting on his battle people.
He lost it before it even started.....
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
and how much are they from u..?
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We make good music!
No, you really don't.
yho...lol,rob...
i guess the conclusions that r easy to draw for some r infinitely impossible to grasp for others. dn expect respect if you're not doing wats admirable to do, but r taking the easy way out. n yes good music wil nt b an easy toil,bt tht toil earns you respect. good music is therapeutic wen done well, it connects with the listener.
pop music is fun sure,bt meaningful? thought-provoking? layered? long-lasting? nope,ppl wl hav forgotten wat u put out 2weeks afta they herd it, let alone years l8er. espeacially 2days pop wich seems especially degenerative. candyfloss music, melt in your mouth, instant and temporary.
again,do it.make your money and be respected as business men, bt dn expect respect as a musician coz ul never get tht frm sm ppl...
adawise,lookie needs 2b battled stil neh?no takers i guess
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I think if youre making all these good moves ur artists must reward you with at least one HIT RECORD per album. YEW can do it.
there is no formulaic, radio-friendly 'hit' on B. Sharpa - you aren't gonna hear it on mainstream radio. Sharpa has already rewarded me with a cla**ic album - deals and money will come as a result of that.
On a different note, you should listen to People Get Read - Strategies for the Digital Age...
http://www.mio.co.za/mioradio/shows/Moshito08_People%20Get%20Ready_Strategies%20for%20the%20Digital%20Age.mp3 (http://www.mio.co.za/mioradio/shows/Moshito08_People%20Get%20Ready_Strategies%20for%20the%20Digital%20Age.mp3)
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
lol. sales figures please. just want to see how far ahead of mad rapper yall are so far
we've shipped 392 units but those aren't sales figures - we only get our sales figures at the end of each month.
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@ born - lol! Thats the first and only text i c frm on the thread wen i get in via my mobile.. "i'm still waitin". Wuss gud fam? @ rob one - oh! u're a journalist <sigh> i almost took u seriously! No comment pa.
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Hey that's OK, I never came close to taking you seriously. ;D
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I'm a journalist. I make my living off snide comments. And right now, the Crackheads = cannon fodder.
Ur a journalist. lol.
So you are WAY below cannon fodder mate ;)
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Lol. Enuf of entertainin rob. Aight man! We cannon fodder. Happy? @ planet - i'm enjoyin the exchange of views man. Healthy nuff! Where ur artists comin out? Bear in mind i aint in joburg. Where can i pick em up?
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yo Koli i sent u a msg on FB,did u get it?
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Lol. Enuf of entertainin rob. Aight man! We cannon fodder. Happy? @ planet - i'm enjoyin the exchange of views man. Healthy nuff! Where ur artists comin out? Bear in mind i aint in joburg. Where can i pick em up?
I thought you were in Joburg?
- Look & Listen (across SA)
- Musica (across SA)
- Ozmic’s Ritual Store, Nr. Carfax, Newtown, Johannesburg
- Mabu Vinyl, Rheede St., Cape Town. (021) 423 7635
- Shelflife, 119 Loop St., Cape Town. (021) 422 3931
- Hi-Five, 34 Kloof St., 5 Mooikloof Centre, Cape Town. (021) 422 5455/6
- African Music Store, 134 Long St., Cape Town. (021) 426 0857
Most of the time peeps have to order from Musica and Look & Listen because they're not into wasting valuable shelf space on 'local' releases.
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
lol. sales figures please. just want to see how far ahead of mad rapper yall are so far
we've shipped 392 units but those aren't sales figures - we only get our sales figures at the end of each month.
good looks. yall already ahead of m. rapper. im not a big sharpa fan, so il be coppin the rattex to help push yall hustle! keep on
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
lol. sales figures please. just want to see how far ahead of mad rapper yall are so far
we've shipped 392 units but those aren't sales figures - we only get our sales figures at the end of each month.
good looks. yall already ahead of m. rapper. im not a big sharpa fan, so il be coppin the rattex to help push yall hustle! keep on
thanks my man!
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@ planet - i'm based in joburg bt i'm at home in the e.c now and i'l b here for a lil. Anyway, i'l cop bcoz u're local and we're soldiers in the same struggle.. Indie baby! Lookin forward to hearin the cats. @ cash - i'l check it now
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Anyway, i'l cop bcoz u're local and we're soldiers in the same struggle.
One love.
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can we get figures d?
Sure, B. Sharpa and Bread and Butter cost R80 at your favourite retail outlet ;)
lol. sales figures please. just want to see how far ahead of mad rapper yall are so far
we've shipped 392 units but those aren't sales figures - we only get our sales figures at the end of each month.
Mad Raper is killing y'all. Killing the Monopoly Album too. HAHA! Knocking off in one hour. straight to Musica.
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anyone else get the feeling that these "conscious vs. vocoder", "backpack vs. manpurse", "ballin' rapper vs. starving artist" debates aren't really about music at all?
instead, they're about some underlying and possibily political philosophies. i.e 'African' socialism vs. late capitalism?
i've noticed how no one ever talks about the music in a way that isn't short-hand or for the purpose of wining using it as a tool to win an arguement. and even when they attempt to they don't really say anything new or nuanced.
the whole imaginary that surrounds hip hop here seems so limited i wouldn't be surprised if it actually never had anything to do with art.