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Title: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: oints on March 04, 2011, 02:23:16 PM
Peace...!

i dont really know how to introduce PATRICK McGOOHAN or even the series ive been watching lately. let me just say this; he was the 1st choice to play the character "007" in Ian Fleming's JAMES BOND but they had to settle for SEAN CONNERY...!..yep, i said it... :o

im re-watching a series called "PRISONER"...watching it again, i have a renewed level of respect for PATRICK McGOOHAN, in as far as script, concept, execution and over all contribution to film/series/television goes... the man is indeed a GODFATHER of among many things, the SPY THRILLER genre...

(http://www.supamovies.net/c/1971/1971_0.jpg)

a SYNOPSIS

"This exchange hails from the original British series, The Prisoner (1967), in which Patrick McGoohan, playing a character named Number Six, finds himself imprisoned in an old-style village. The opening sequence of the series has him driving around London in a fast car, driving up to his employer’s desk and slapping down a letter of resignation. He has been brought to this presumably secluded village because he has valuable information — what this information is, we don’t know. We also don’t know McGoohan’s occupation. All we know is that he’s trapped because he’s left his job, and he wants to leave.

(When the original series premiered, many viewers a**umed, and perhaps were meant to a**ume, that McGoohan’s character was John Drake, whom he played in another British import, Danger Man (Secret Agent). This, however, was left ambiguous in The Prisoner, though American media magazines like Time and TV Guide stated the two were one in the same.)

Who is the prisoner? Who are his captors? What information does he hold? Will he ever be free? Now that AMC is remaking The Prisoner, viewers will have another chance to find out. Though, of course, they won’t. Nevertheless, in the age of Lost and Flash Forward, the remake of The Prisoner may be right on time, instead of light years ahead of it, as it was in 1967.

The original series, best remembered for its ambiguity, cinematic techniques, and thought-provoking final episode, plays heavily on the fears of its time. It’s steeped in the rhetoric of the Cold War. The village is the commune, or the communist society, where names don’t matter and everyone pretends to be happy in public but is miserable in secret. Though all of their needs are provided for, there is no joy, and the only hope of climbing the social ladder is to be given a position by authorities. The philosophical and psychological drama of the show is whether McGoohan is in fact a free, autonomous individual — “my life is my own” — or whether he in fact is “a number” (communist!) not a “person.”


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/PrisonerPaperback.jpg)

if you can get your hands on this PRISONER, check it out, you might like it too...  ;)
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: briCK on March 04, 2011, 02:49:06 PM
no beef!

by why you watching 50year old flicks which aint Kung Fu?
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: oints on March 04, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
no beef!

by why you watching 50year old flicks which aint Kung Fu?

hehehe, VOCAL CLIPS ma G, VOCAL CLIPS...without tryna sound too connoisseur, i produce music around vocal concept, use the scripts to inspire that...i guess this time round, the chosen concept happens not to be kung-fu, but more espionage ...and really, who does it better than the BRITS  ;)
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: briCK on March 04, 2011, 02:56:50 PM
Way to shut my big a** trap!


Makes sense....

is there any sample clearance require like music and while we at it.

If i came up with a concept video sampling a move flick whatever the way producers sample do i need sample clearance?
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: oints on March 04, 2011, 03:08:06 PM
Way to shut my big a** trap!


Makes sense....

is there any sample clearance require like music and while we at it.

If i came up with a concept video sampling a move flick whatever the way producers sample do i need sample clearance?

to the first part of your question, vocal samples are as much parts of intellectual property as pieces of music are. the samplling procedures that concern those have to adhere to said rules and regulations. those include having to inform the owner of the work or those entitled to oversee its rights upon any use of the material. HOWEVER, there is always a way to circumevent these tedious bottle necks..well, atleast for anarchists like myself  ;) that will entail contorting the vocal sample, or at best, cutting it up with said similar vocals to create a new sentence...that way, the work is no longer in its original format, its been REMADE. therein lies the loop hole.


however, i feel like i also must add..even in television, with imagery, the question has come up. this will perhaps answer your second question. CCTV, the Chinese Television Broadcaster was recently caught out with having fabricated footage of a missle & stealth plane test...they had lifeted footage of a jet being shot out of the sky taken from "TOP GUN" by Tom Cruise...the whole thing was laughed at and shrugged off...!  ::)
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: briCK on March 04, 2011, 04:20:58 PM
Interesting and commendable knowledge in your intrest! There is a video by DOOM "batty boys" he loops batman and robin in the bat mobile from the early batman animated series, he even sample the theme music and pretty much uses the vocal simultaneously with the accompanying video footage clip! I a**ume that had to be cleared? Check for it on youtoube if u aint see it your might like it.
Title: Re: SECRET AGENT MAN....!
Post by: oints on March 04, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
Interesting and commendable knowledge in your intrest! There is a video by DOOM "batty boys" he loops batman and robin in the bat mobile from the early batman animated series, he even sample the theme music and pretty much uses the vocal simultaneously with the accompanying video footage clip! I a**ume that had to be cleared? Check for it on youtoube if u aint see it your might like it.

hmm, seems to have used quite a bit of the original footage, couldnt be sure, but i suspect he must have paid some levy....

thanks for the share big homey, ima check for that there...SALUTE  ;)