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Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 14, 2006, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: munetsi
yo zubz.1st mistake-IT'S NOT ABOUT U.if u an artist and u don't want to communicate to your audience(us) then get on the hamlet spaceship and write soliloquy.don't front 'if i don't like it i don't like it don't mean that i'm hatin it'.as far as the 'now' thing i know you since HARDCORE back here in Zim when u was singin gospel music.so don't front on me bout sellin out money.then again u do admit u dig certain producers.i'm sayin, we reached a certain age where we gotta make cla**ics and live of em,hail we aint no van gogh's.wise men are supposed to leave legacies for they progeny.i'm a fan of hiphop, it's why i got your albums in the first place.appreciate that.i'm sayin.i want african hiphop to be as marketable as american hiphop.yes!charisma sells characters.otherwise there would be no bob,pac eminem(shall i go on?).don't look for excuses for stagnation.use it as a challenge.i'm mad at y'all.with 5% the resources you have we tryin da best we can here.don't take your blessings for granted cous.they won't always be there.i love hiphop you can't force me to find taste in the tasteless.i live,eat,sleep,dream this.so when y'all put it out i better like how it smells.i'm a fan man.look at where all the keep it real cats is at.common still there cuz he growin with the music,so is outcast.

history teaches that men learns nothing from it...

and the dog will return to its vomit...

don't get it twisted it's all love.otherwise i would shut up and keep stuff to myself.hiphop raised me money, i see cats as fam.i WANT THE BEST FOR FAM.not saying i know what's bets for u.i'm just saying, n'a m saying? :wink:
Interesting how this thread turned out..what would be even more interesting as a spinoff idea would be a battle btwn Zubz & Munetsi.. :idea:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: authentic on March 14, 2006, 04:37:46 PM
zubbz :oops:  vs munetsi :twisted:  .........well,i dont think zubbz would take tha challenge but i know munetsi would make duke,i know what i am talkin bout ,trust mie on dat one  :lol:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: authentic on March 14, 2006, 04:45:11 PM
zubbz :oops:  vs munetsi :twisted:  .........well,i dont think zubbz would take tha challenge but i know munetsi would murk duke,i know what i am talkin bout ,trust mie on dat one  :lol:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 14, 2006, 04:47:14 PM
Yeah that'd be some 3rd Chimurenga type isht!

Zubz vs Munetsi battle for the undisputed Crown of King of H-Town...Advertised on PowerFM syndicating to YFm's Harambe advertised in bright bold print in the Mail & Guardian & The Herald..

Sensai Tate aka Devil's Advocate :twisted:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on March 14, 2006, 05:09:36 PM
what?13th letter vs last letta.somehow the grease on my threads tells u who's betta.or drastik can send us same beat and we rock it to see who nicer.i'm cute when it comes to be nice.logically tight like a bear hug.just the thought o this got my adrenaline like a fire hose.cool down money.i'm on fire......
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: authentic on March 14, 2006, 05:14:23 PM
ya dont know how much i would love to hear something like dat money,n i was talkin to munetsi yesterday n he is juss looking for some lace where he can juss come thru at n ecord his whole project so if anyone ofya dudes wouldnt mind giving us some beats,i cant say we would be able to pay you this much or whateva amount but if the projects work out correctly we can work something out .. so ifya got some beats hollas at mie n i will talk to munetsi
one
n zubbz mann up n take this challnge thunny
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: eraze on March 14, 2006, 06:24:11 PM
tate...usin ur power to do evil... 8)








bruce almigthy
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 14, 2006, 06:41:05 PM
The force has a dark side too... :twisted:

Not really evil the way I see it.
I am probably the biggest Zubz fan on this site (Zubz been ripping MC's apart since 206 days RE: Listeners Digest) + I have the Utmost respect for Munetsi (been ripping MCs apart in Zim as long as I've known him RE: Book Cafe on 5 Ave Harare).

Nice marketing for Munetsi's upcoming solo + Zubz's Sophmore soon..

Both artists are NICE with it & old/wise enough to know well enough to make for a real clean battle which would spawn some creative winds which is what has been missing on AG lately (bar: Landmynz Mixtape). Cats is always complaining that AG & African hip hop in general is boring..this is exactly whats needed...

Lets do it "For hip hop..."
Title: What?!! yall need a beat?
Post by: Bobby Banks on March 14, 2006, 07:48:56 PM
I can lace y'all wit something if its going down.F*ck wit mugabe!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Dpleezy on March 14, 2006, 07:52:27 PM
yeah,,, that would spice things up around here for sure.

I'm all for it,, but something tells me cats is too industry for that type of thing,... hope i'm wrong :wink:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 15, 2006, 12:57:06 AM
*A crowd begins to gather on the dusty street...wondering what all the commotion is all about..just like when that theif that took the old lady's purse got caught...

the lesser known "underdog" emcee has courageously stepped up to the challenge like he got something to prove...to lay his stake in the game..."just to get a rep"...

will the legendary heavyweight actually respond?...
his fans led by the unofficial president of his fan club (moi)! are urging him on in anticipation..

the stir is arising...Are we actually gonna see something?...*


Awww fuggit! uSyn has always been more descriptive than I am but you get the picture!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Sduhla on March 15, 2006, 02:58:26 PM
Interestin thread. It somehow doesn't suprise me that Zubz was a gospel dude. But what I want to know was he not a duet wit Fungayi, editor of Hype?
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: eraze on March 15, 2006, 04:06:48 PM
Quote from: "Sduhla"
Interestin thread. It somehow doesn't suprise me that Zubz was a gospel dude. But what I want to know was he not a duet wit Fungayi, editor of Hype?


hehe...

mmmm ... this will turn nasty...


Zugayi choir...
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 15, 2006, 04:55:26 PM
Please don't turn this into the offcial diss Zubz thread.
Its not about that. Please show some respect here & not bring your beefs/ personal prejudices here we're trynna get something positive going here.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Dpleezy on March 15, 2006, 05:35:40 PM
yeah, for real. got mad respect for Zubz,,, definitely one artist that doesn't need to be trashed on AG.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: eraze on March 15, 2006, 05:40:10 PM
when u start a fire expect shit to go crazy.......


if zubz get disrespected its bcoiz someone thot puttin up ths thread wud be nice for the game..uh...

now the ball is bouncing on the court in all directions...
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 15, 2006, 05:59:58 PM
Well its a good thing there are "Moderators" to curb that kind of thing... :wink:

& yes I do think a decent Southern African battle btwn some credible respected artists would be good for the game in the spirit of all things hip hop. It DOES NOT however need to turn into a free-for-all "Diss Munetsi & Zubz to make aname for myself".

They both have earned the respect to deserve better than that.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2006, 07:14:57 PM
(sharpening his fangs)

rules

1: same beat
2: let it rip

(adjusting to the asbestos lined keyboard and mouse,precautionary fire hazard procedure,he utters...)

'i'm lost somewhere in the pulmonary vein D!so tell me where the beat at.)

this gonna be picnic man.my neck is hurtin.i keep tuggin at this leash.

(gettin his Ali on)

i float like space stations, sting like nerve gas.

tate i might as well use these lines to draw water for the flow of the track rite money?get it?'well', 'water', 'flow'.

i'm a beast right now...trust me u don't want problems.

ie, you heard the book of proverb rite?tite!agreed?well look at Mu's mic time as well...the Old and New Testament.

(shut up Munetsi your time gon' come).

ok nuff said.

(lyrically i'm Kingpinn's nephew.Uncle said i'm next in line and supposed to carry the torch till 2100+AD.)man i'm feelin like the statue of liberty.


I'M HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGRRRRRRRRRRRY.Oliver wants some more.u definitely kno it's gon' be 'Havoc'.now who's the 'Prodigy'.

lemme stop man.'i'm outta control'.

i'm silly wit da punchlines right now dun.


Neo...it's the inevitable :lol:

translate my name for em Tate.it's destiny.beyonce's back.
 :lol:  8)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on March 15, 2006, 07:26:34 PM
holla
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: syc on March 15, 2006, 07:34:48 PM
8O
what is a gawan here?
i smelt smoke from the producers corner!!!! this ish would be ill.... mugabs post a beat lets munetsi get a warm up or someshit.. build tha hype (so we can be dissapointed when the battle doesnt happen)
or ill contribute something beat wise
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Bobby Banks on March 15, 2006, 08:40:52 PM
Im on it...one battle beat comin rite up!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 15, 2006, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: "syc"
8O
.. build tha hype (so we can be dissapointed when the battle doesnt happen)
or ill contribute something beat wise

Peops have little faith in the power of an emcee's hunger..
This could be too hot for AG even! :P  8)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Original Syn on March 15, 2006, 10:36:08 PM
OOOOOOOHHHH I need to be either the ring announcer or the commentator... I'm feeling it, I already got my thesaurus out checking all the synonyms.... I'm crazy chale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8O
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: C4 on March 16, 2006, 03:27:45 AM
:D  :D  :D  :D
I'm shifting in my seat here, guys, i can barely contain myself.
I'd like 2 drop a beef beat too, in fact i'm already on it, gents, jus say the word.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: The Myth on March 16, 2006, 08:48:39 AM
ha ha ha ha

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Title: Here We go!
Post by: Bobby Banks on March 16, 2006, 02:43:07 PM
Here it is!!!!! Made this last night...Hope it will suffice.
This is going to be some good old healthy fun...
Who else better than the president of zimbabwe himself,to post the beat these two fine zimbabwean exports will spit on. Heres the link. Iv never been able to upload tracks on AG,so get the beat from the link... ONE!

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2W7UOWRWDJUGS0787FR2XW0XQU









  ADVERTISEMENT - Clicking will not affect transfer.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 16, 2006, 04:29:22 PM
yousendit links expire so here is local link:

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Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on March 16, 2006, 05:16:17 PM
soon as i get into town downloadin it.good lookin.how come last letta aint replied oh great 19th letta?
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: jahfish on March 16, 2006, 07:05:12 PM
hey, why do i hear so many nice beats here that are better than stuff comin out?  ;)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: syc on March 16, 2006, 09:26:57 PM
nice reall nice mugabe
now we got the wood and fuel down we just need that spark and start this fire>>>
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: C4 on March 17, 2006, 01:08:44 AM
Sheeesh, mugabe u aint playin!! I'm wondering wether to up this beat or not now. But since i been thru all the trouble, i might as well.

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Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 17, 2006, 04:21:50 PM
This is already a positive & exciting post igniting the creative fire in many producers. Good looking out!

I vote Mugabe (first & last time I ever do that!)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Bobby Banks on March 17, 2006, 04:34:21 PM
lol @ tate...its not like u had a choice mdara,u kno how i hold it down on that political ish. So go ahead and vote ag...y'all kno im going to rig the results anyway
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on March 17, 2006, 05:39:16 PM
OH IT'S DEFINITELY ON! :twisted:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: authentic on March 18, 2006, 02:07:05 PM
so this is getting some attention ha?? i seriously doubt zubbz gone show up though, hope he does show up though, munetsi real hungry ....
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Ghetto Rat on March 19, 2006, 02:17:12 AM
I think it'll be a miracle if Zubz participates.I'll give yall evidence to support my bold statement.

Impressive energy and warm-up Munetsi!

I'm still gonna hear the chain of beats supplied!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 20, 2006, 02:49:26 PM
Quote from: "Ghetto Rat"
I think it'll be a miracle if Zubz participates.I'll give yall evidence to support my bold statement.

A bold statement indeed..so where is the evidence..I personally doubt anything actually exists that would stand up in the Kangaroo court known as AG forums.

until then this is just stoopid internet hate  :x

SISSYS!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Ta-Piwe on March 27, 2006, 02:08:19 PM
only one way to prove it everyone knows that
but instigator tate i'm in P.E., but smelling your shoes even though i'm next to a sewage :evil: .

Motives Motives Motives :twisted:

i just hope it's nothing personal you have between the two mceez
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Bashin on March 27, 2006, 03:26:40 PM
Hope the Last Letta doesnt take this serious

now can a person who has enuff powers to remove this thread do so...
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Nthabi on March 27, 2006, 04:49:38 PM
GEEZ people!
What's with the attack on Zubz????
Personally, I think he is one of the dopest artists/emcee/lyricists we have here in Mzansi.
Rather than trying to dis the dude about the gospel thing, why don't you concentrate on his skills.
There's a very huge difference between constructive criticism and straight up hating.
If you've got nothing valid or meaningful to say then rather hush. This industry is already messed up as is.
No disrespect though.
I'm sure both emcees are skilled, lets not turn this into a personal attack though!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Naturelle on March 27, 2006, 05:15:53 PM
Me thinks Nthabi, Bashin and Ta-Piwe might be missing the point of the thread.

Don't just do something...stand there!
anyways, i was saying, its not an attack on Zubz, we just tryna prompt a battle that has potential to go down as one of the greatest battle in hiphop history.
Can some1 just holler at last letter so e can get this done, Tate, come on now, I know U president of his unofficial fanclub.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Malcom E.K.K.S on March 27, 2006, 05:32:00 PM
If this doesn't work out, there's always the other option. How about both Mcess up the their dopest jamz and AG ma**ive vote, fair enuff... It gives everybody to ekksersize their democratic right, which our african governments deny us.
 :D
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Omero's Daddy on March 28, 2006, 08:06:18 AM
I think this thread has no merit.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Omero's Daddy on March 28, 2006, 08:13:30 AM
Zubz has nothing to gain from participating in this. The man has paid his dues.

I think its kinda disrespectful for u guys to want to disrupt this mans life and get him to participate in a "Battle". Their a lot of things that are more important in life than this... ZUbz has nothing to gain from doing this... absolutely nothing.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Ta-Piwe on March 28, 2006, 09:48:25 AM
you don't instigate battles, that's soap opera hip hop drama, battles just happen, instead of want other cats to battle, go ahead bite the bullet hold the crown up, on offence so the battles begin, an mcee could be nice and tight and still be pussy...is that what is being experimented here???

cause i smell fish, that's haters scent.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Nthabi on March 28, 2006, 02:01:46 PM
Totally agree with Nyambz.
Whether or not Zubz participates in the battle makes no difference simply coz it won't have any effect on his music. Why are still trying to get some one who's already proven himself to do it again. Don't you think there's other ish we could be focusing on??
Just a thought!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 28, 2006, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: "nyambz"
Zubz has nothing to gain from participating in this. The man has paid his dues.

I think its kinda disrespectful for u guys to want to disrupt this mans life and get him to participate in a "Battle". Their a lot of things that are more important in life than this... ZUbz has nothing to gain from doing this... absolutely nothing.

Politely disagree here Ma Brada.
Nobody here (except the ignant f*&ks) is trying to disrespect the Last.
"Its just a friendly game of basketball"..
Its like an allstar soccer player refusing to a game of kick around just coz "he's proven himself"...
C'mon now when I started this thread I reaffirmed that this was no disrespect to Zubz...just some frendly competition.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Omero's Daddy on March 28, 2006, 03:43:49 PM
In theory no disrespect is intended. But you know how these things spiral out of control....

people wont interupt it just as a "friendly game of basketball" theres always a tinge of mallice in the end.

Look at the Pro-verb Prokid battle last year. That was really disgusting the way people just twisted the results out of context.

People even wanted Pro-verb to drop the "Pro".

People just like to see battles because it appeals to that dark side in them. That side that just wants to see people make a spectacle of themselves.

At the end of it all no ones' going to talk about the "friendly game of basketball" Uncle Tate wanted to see but the outcoome of the battle. Its not cool.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: briCK on March 28, 2006, 04:20:40 PM
damn back when Hip Hop was fun.

I am not talking in the context of the battle proposed by UncleT8 but imagine it WHY can't a young budding MC be put up aganist an artist that has proved himself? If you are an MC you NEEDS to stay on point, a dope MC is not a desination its a journey you NEED to stay sharp and hpw else can you get sharp besides by being tested by unrecognized MCs, you did say you the dopest MC in your raps did you not? Well put your MIC where your mouth is and Show these MCs that you did not land where you is... but that you fought to get there.

THERE is NO shame in losing a battle to a hungry unknown cat! NONE!!

that that ol' "f*** you tryna shine on my shine" attitude needs to STOP, i swear i'm battling ANY MC..even if you on some "nah I don't battle" shit you best belive I'm spew vomit all over your established none battling a** till you feel the need to either punch me or battle back either f*** TALKING about it instead of being about it. well truthfully i'll probably not battle but I'm saying!



with that sed yeah this thread is kinda i dunno would be nice just as forumn entertainment nothing more I mean shit there's beats!

briCK out!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: eraze on March 28, 2006, 05:43:30 PM
yep...i knew from the begining that this was jus stupid...

there is no such thing as a friendly battle, shit hits the fan and niggaz get crazy...



Quote from: "Naturelle"
.... we just tryna prompt a battle that has potential to go down as one of the greatest battle in hiphop history.


thats the machine talking...ryt thurrrrr......


no wonder Zubz aint sayin shit...coz this is dumb shit....


thats my word
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Naturelle on March 28, 2006, 07:17:17 PM
What's bullshyt an why it's now useless is coz, it's been twisted around and been made to sound like there is ill intent and I don't think that was ever the idea behind this.

Why are peeps so focused on the negative aspects of a battle. It's really entertaining true maybe its more for the listener than the person battling.
 But I think its vital for a willing MC who enjoys battles to see how they fare against others, to see how fast  they can think up clever and strong comebacks etc.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Dpleezy on March 28, 2006, 11:16:46 PM
like it or not, some MCs are not about battling,,, i might be wrong but Zubz isn't out there claiming he's a battle MC. he's a songwriter,,, and a respected one at that.

having said that, i don't think people need to get so touchy about this subject. battling is part of the culture of hip hop. it's natural to want to hear your favourite MCs flex their skills. verbal sparring is entertainment. when it's live it shows you are quick-witted, creative and calm under pressure.

it's not just about dissing. i've seen MCs lose battles because they come over too hardcore, lacking wit and imagination, even if they were the most aggressive.

Zubz doesn't need anyone to step in to protect his honour. I doubt he will take part because he doesn't need to,,, and because it's just not his thing. fair enough.

Maybe we should suggest the two of them collaborate instead of battle? ;)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 29, 2006, 12:38:38 AM
Or better yet they could both freak the same beat & we'd digest the audible treats & decide for ourselves which we prefered. They dont even have to disrespect each other directly just rap from the same platform/ subject matter/ Whatever...

See a battle isnt just about dissing...Nobody said Zubz & Munetsi need to diss each other.. if you think it is just about dissing then you have much to learn about this culture called Hip Hop..
its about flexing skills & theres many ways to skin that cat...

People need to stop being so closed minded & calling for blood. :x
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Original Syn on March 29, 2006, 12:44:25 AM
i see your dream swiftly fading away in the clouds of opinion T8.... its a shame.... seems folks take the term "battle" thing too seriously... maybe we should be all PC and change the term to something less aggressive.......
like instead of a battle rappers could have a "Lyrical Tea-party" :roll:  :lol:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Dpleezy on March 29, 2006, 01:02:11 AM
hahah,,, "friendship poems", "peace rhymes", "non-confrontational collaborative music",,, ah yes :)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Original Syn on March 29, 2006, 01:16:33 AM
OOOhh all winners there Dp, I must say, maybe "A Minor Disagreement in Rhyme", or "Amicable Metered Verbalism" or my personal favrite, "Celebrating Difference in Rhythmic Poetry".... AND they all make spiffy anagrams to boot.... I can see it now..

"The African Hip Hop Emcee AMV's" ; "CDRP on 106 and Park" ah peace and happiness and ponies and ginger snaps for everybody, just the way Kool Herc and Afrika Bam intended. :lol:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: C4 on March 29, 2006, 04:47:20 AM
Shit man, the way this is going, i might as well shift the f*** off the edge of my seat and stop biting my fingernails (the little thats left of 'em).
Peeps are ruining a perfectly good bit of hip-hop fun that was never meant to be taken too seriously.

It's like a sport, for pete's sake :!:  :roll: . I'll bet no-one would be bitching if it was a thread calling for Manu vs Arsenal or summin. I say onward, let's keep hip-hop alive.
I hope both MC's still do this, if only coz they enjoy it, and at the same time for The Listener who appreciates their skills.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Bashin on March 29, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
somebody delete this ufcken thread
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on March 30, 2006, 03:19:39 AM
People mis-conscrued this whole thing.
People really need to learn to READ. Maybe I should translate this isht into vernac..no wait that right even LESS people would actually READ it!
Title: in the end you battle for honour and respect from your peers
Post by: mavoc on March 30, 2006, 09:13:11 AM
in the end you battle for honour and respect from your peers! If you do not live up to your fans’ expectations in a battle your sales are definitely going to decrease but if you surpa** their expectations there is a great potential of walking away with more fans. So even if its just a friendly battle if has it spin-offs
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: briCK on March 30, 2006, 11:02:22 AM
Quote from: "bashin"
somebody delete this ufcken thread


do you have a real legitimate reason for your request?
Title: Re: in the end you battle for honour and respect from your p
Post by: Ta-Piwe on March 30, 2006, 11:59:07 AM
Quote from: "mavoc"
in the end you battle for honour and respect from your peers!


I started to walk around starting ciphers on every corner that had heads congregated congested. Cipher activeness taught me.
1.You battle, what's whack.
2.Battle cats a soldiers fighting off all negativity, 8mile is entertaining to new comers.
3.Battles between a whack cat and a tight cat can degrade a battle till it's not entertaining, so save the honor when you can see whack cat fronting, beat him with tracks and not attention. Cause it’s like a genius arguing with a fool.
4.Through personal encounters I saw that when cats want you knocked off and they can't, they constantly bring other cats to battle you, mcees hara** you, cause someone sent them out like demons to get you.
5.You only as tight as your last freestyle, every freestyle has its moments, you kill shit in the morning you comatose in the evening, shit changes like P.E. weather and no one will accept your excuse, when you lose a battle.
6.You can't prepare for freestyle so you can't prepare for a battle, going to a cipher conjuring battle rhymes and you see freestyle when you “premeditated” or wrote down punch-lines the week before.
7.I believe that the way to know who's tighter than who. You give them a tight beat a good concept and studio time, if they both tight we've got a cla**ic track, if one shines a crown comes out, if one fades the other we know who’s tighter, more quick on his toes when concerntrating and who is more committed to the music they make, If they both whack the tracks whack the battle also would’ve been whack.
8.   Get respect by giving respect hip hop is a life not just word and a beat.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Nthabi on March 30, 2006, 01:56:12 PM
You know what!
Forget this thread.We're gonna end up going round in circles over some dumba** ish!
Let's just lay the whole damn thing to rest!!!!!
IT OVER NOW!!!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Ta-Piwe on March 30, 2006, 02:02:52 PM
Then you don't have to read it. :D
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: rhymetodie on May 16, 2006, 10:52:10 PM
We all know ya all want attention__Why would Zubz battle Munetsi in th a1st place__Don't give me tht skillz excuse coz it's bullshit ya jst wanna shine on his shine..If you wanna battle lettaz battle tha letta thts similar to Rakim...Rhyme2die an i'll slash ya throat lyrically!!!__Zubz is an artist jst be gr8full he logz on AG n treat him with resepct tht he deserves....

Now if you wanna beef act like a canirvo(sp)
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 16, 2006, 11:13:38 PM
WOW is this what this thread has degenerated to? I guess I must lock the thread now since a lot of people are missing the point..

Hip Hop used to be fun before it was popular..now no more...
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: rhymetodie on May 16, 2006, 11:29:22 PM
Thts what happens when you put a celebz name on a battle with a forumite__People are alwayz gonna miss tha point..Bt it's coo you decided to lock tha thread..I'd suggest deletin it Bt i guess lockin it is also fine.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: prolyfik on May 31, 2006, 01:12:19 PM
Damn this thread `s been hot but i think Munetsi vs Zubz gon be one hell of a battle if it ever happens  :lol:  :lol:  Coz Munetsi been rippin the battlefield at the Book Cafe and Zubz a reknowned battle king eish.......
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on June 16, 2006, 06:14:53 PM
y'all understood the purpose of this thread?you are such hip hoppers.anxious for beef.trust me i been on this.


'when i react there aint no army that can strike back...'
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Malcom E.K.K.S on June 17, 2006, 03:38:23 PM
Quote from: "rhymetodie"
Thts what happens when you put a celebz name on a battle with a forumite__People are alwayz gonna miss tha point..Bt it's coo you decided to lock tha thread..I'd suggest deletin it Bt i guess lockin it is also fine.


I guess am in Hollywood ha, How many celebs have I met here?..Nyambz, Drastic,D planet, Trusenz, becoming Phil....can y'all hook up autographs? :P  :P
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Sduhla on June 18, 2006, 01:29:25 PM
First of all f*** u Tate and Nyambz, and all u self -aggrandisin pricks who think u got monopoly on the 'hip hop culture'. Tate u can teach ur middle cla** white buddies from Rhodes abt wut hip hop is, not me chump, this shit is ma life. And Nyambz u a talented producer, but that don't make u no authority on nothin, matter of fact both u and Tate have the same gospel attitude that Zubz has, and perhaps thats why u defendin him. As for Nthabi, I don't argue wit chicks! Zubz can speak English wit a twang of a British colonial subject, that don't make him a nice lyricist. As for the battlin thing, dude has been murked in every battle that I've witnessed. Dethkowd punked him only last year, he couldn't respond to Snaz at Horror Cafe in 2004, Cone from 3WR made a bitch out of him at Song Writters Club in 04. Now those gentleman are lyricists! When his buddy Fungayi invited him to a Hype organised battle last year, he bitched out, and admitted that he couldn't freestyle. Dont take ma word for it verify all of this, and read the Hype that had the battle article on it. U 'Moderators' are no different from Hype or Yfm, u always eager to silence different voices, and hegemonise ur group therapy views as absolutes. Now I agree wit Dplanet, it's not mendatory for every mc to battle, but then people should not claim that they are the illest battle emcees either.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on June 18, 2006, 05:12:16 PM
*sigh* :roll:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: C4 on June 19, 2006, 02:08:24 AM
Hmm...

Quote from: "Sduhla"
When his buddy Fungayi invited him to a Hype organised battle last year, he bitched out, and admitted that he couldn't freestyle. Dont take ma word for it...


Is that part about Zubz sayin he can't freestyle tru? I neva knew this, coz i neva hurrd him free b4.  :?
Interesting...

Quote from: "Sduhla"
Zubz can speak English wit a twang of a British colonial subject, that don't make him a nice lyricist.


I'm a**uming u meant "...with a twang of a British colonial accent ...", coz otherwise it don't make sense 2 me. Not that it maters much though.
Maybe our definitions of what's an ill lyricist differ, coz I don't see where u comin from sayin he's not a lyricist. Maybe not a freestyler [emphasis on the word maybe], but still an ill lyricist nonetheless. Try and deny that, and i'll have to write you off as a plain old hater...

Quote from: "Sduhla"
As for the battlin thing, dude has been murked in every battle that I've witnessed. Dethkowd punked him only last year, he couldn't respond to Snaz at Horror Cafe in 2004, Cone from 3WR made a bitch out of him at Song Writters Club in 04. Now those gentleman are lyricists!


Happens to the best of 'em, u shud know this by now.
You can't win 'em all.

Quote from: "Sduhla"
U 'Moderators' are no different from Hype or Yfm, u always eager to silence different voices, and hegemonise ur group therapy views as absolutes.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Yeah, there are certain 'factions' here that can be a bit biased at times. But then again, most ppl are biased in some way or other, so f*** it, i give up. I'll just try n be as objective as possible myself. It's human nature, don't let it bother you, jus do like i do.

Quote from: "Sduhla"
Now I agree wit Dplanet, it's not mendatory for every mc to battle, but then people should not claim that they are the illest battle emcees either.


Well said, both quoter and quotee.

And I still think any kinda battle btwn Zubz and Munetsi, wether freestyle or written or whatever, would be much appreciated by the headz.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: N.A 187 on June 26, 2006, 12:12:17 PM
Meanwhile Zubs actin pussy, peep Vaal Tech emceez flowflushin on a regular launch brake.a video to chersih as the sickest off the top drop science. Featuring Na187,Sub,Superseed,Dismental and 12gage. Tell me this aint hot-
senzo.m@webmail.co.za

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/187a**asin/?action=view&current=540ecd62.flv
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Thema-rulez on August 03, 2006, 03:34:11 PM
Tha lst leta seems to be chickening out :oops:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on August 04, 2006, 07:20:03 AM
Quote from: "Sduhla"
. And Nyambz u a talented producer, but that don't make u no authority on nothin, matter of fact both u and Tate have the same gospel attitude that Zubz has, and perhaps thats why u defendin him. As for Nthabi, I don't argue wit chicks! Zubz can speak English wit a twang of a British colonial subject, that don't make him a nice lyricist. As for the battlin thing, dude has been murked in every battle that I've witnessed. Dethkowd punked him only last year, he couldn't respond to Snaz at Horror Cafe in 2004, Cone from 3WR made a bitch out of him at Song Writters Club in 04.
Now those gentleman are lyricists! When his buddy Fungayi invited him to a Hype organised battle last year, he bitched out, and admitted that he couldn't freestyle. Dont take ma word for it verify all of this, and read the Hype that had the battle article on it. U 'Moderators' are no different from Hype or Yfm, u always eager to silence different voices, and hegemonise ur group therapy views as absolutes. Now I agree wit Dplanet, it's not mendatory for every mc to battle, but then people should not claim that they are the illest battle emcees either.


I think you missed the point, Snazz and Cone are battle mc's they live for punchlines, when was the last tym you heard Cone and Snazz do something enjoyable without punchlines, something that makes you wanna laugh? My point exactly those cats are battlecats they live for the battle.Dont get it twisted both of them are dope Mc's with unique styles that they bring into hip-hop but we are not all the same. So what if Zubz cant freestyle, its his choice, Do you or Munetsi have an album out that was nominateed for a SAMA? Well.......... i thought so you all bitching about what he should have done what he should have said, Well why dont you SHUT THE f*** UP, because its cats like you and Munesti that discredit good artists. When Flabba went on The essence and said "I dont freestyle I'm a business man" None of you said shit. As for Munetsi, Its cats like you that discredit real heads. You claim you rock H-Town, well good for you, I will give you a star on your forehead for your efforts. Honestly I never heard of you until I got on this site, so your beef shine on my shine tactic is not working, and you keep sending messages here to try bring it back to life. FACE THE MUSIC YOU LOST WITHOUT ZUBZ HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on August 04, 2006, 07:27:21 AM
Quote from: "187a**asin"
Meanwhile Zubs actin pussy, peep Vaal Tech emceez flowflushin on a regular launch brake.a video to chersih as the sickest off the top drop science. Featuring Na187,Sub,Superseed,Dismental and 12gage. Tell me this aint hot-
senzo.m@webmail.co.za

http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h301/187a**asin/?action=view&current=540ecd62.flv
I heard you Freestyle Where was Zubz? Its just you! Unless you imagined Zubz was there with you :cry: Its sad you wanna join munetsi and rock H-town! Good Luck But work on your feestyles!

Explicit

Word is bond
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on August 09, 2006, 02:45:25 PM
explicit. first i respect your opinion.second, before you open your mouth, get all your facts straight. third, i think you missed the point. third, i got nothing personal against dude. if i did i'd have spat over exhibit's paparazzi and called it zubzsarazzi or something(deleted it). fourth, thanks for the SAMA statement. interesting challenge. dude's older than my big brother - i got all the time for a SAMA:wink:
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on August 09, 2006, 03:20:07 PM
Quote from: "explicit"
Do you or Munetsi have an album out that was nominateed for a SAMA? Well.......... i thought so you all bitching about what he should have done what he should have said, Well why dont you SHUT THE f*** UP, because its cats like you and Munesti that discredit good artists. When Flabba went on The essence and said "I dont freestyle I'm a business man" None of you said shit. As for Munetsi, Its cats like you that discredit real heads. You claim you rock H-Town, well good for you, I will give you a star on your forehead for your efforts. Honestly I never heard of you until I got on this site, so your beef shine on my shine tactic is not working, and you keep sending messages here to try bring it back to life. FACE THE MUSIC YOU LOST WITHOUT ZUBZ HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) Zubz will be the first to tell you that awards dont really mean much esp in SA hip hop industry so thats a moot point.
2) How has mU discredit the good artist that is Zubz? By making a respectful sporting challenge in the name of hip hop? You must not know much about hip hop culture then...If anything its the ultimate show of respect & flattery.
3) Don't comment on H-Town if you never been there & know nothing about it. Just coz YOU never heardof mU doesnt mean spit in the greater scheme of things. theres dozens of Zim rappers you probably never heard of that could rap you under the table.
Shame we may never hear Zubz's take on this but I doubt he'd agree with ANY of the above-quoted post. :arrow:

P.S. The hypothetical Zubz vs mU battle is aired out on the latest HIPHOCALYPSE Podcast here:

http://www.hiphocalypse.podshow.com

holla!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on August 10, 2006, 07:58:11 AM
Quote from: "Sensai_Tate"
Quote from: "explicit"
Do you or Munetsi have an album out that was nominateed for a SAMA? Well.......... i thought so you all bitching about what he should have done what he should have said, Well why dont you SHUT THE f*** UP, because its cats like you and Munesti that discredit good artists. When Flabba went on The essence and said "I dont freestyle I'm a business man" None of you said shit. As for Munetsi, Its cats like you that discredit real heads. You claim you rock H-Town, well good for you, I will give you a star on your forehead for your efforts. Honestly I never heard of you until I got on this site, so your beef shine on my shine tactic is not working, and you keep sending messages here to try bring it back to life. FACE THE MUSIC YOU LOST WITHOUT ZUBZ HAVING TO SAY A WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) Zubz will be the first to tell you that awards dont really mean much esp in SA hip hop industry so thats a moot point.
2) How has mU discredit the good artist that is Zubz? By making a respectful sporting challenge in the name of hip hop? You must not know much about hip hop culture then...If anything its the ultimate show of respect & flattery.
3) Don't comment on H-Town if you never been there & know nothing about it. Just coz YOU never heardof mU doesnt mean spit in the greater scheme of things. theres dozens of Zim rappers you probably never heard of that could rap you under the table.
Shame we may never hear Zubz's take on this but I doubt he'd agree with ANY of the above-quoted post. :arrow:

P.S. The hypothetical Zubz vs mU battle is aired out on the latest HIPHOCALYPSE Podcast here:

http://www.hiphocalypse.podshow.com

holla!
Okey Thank you for your thoughts and views but saying I dont know much about the hip-hop cuture is a bit over the line there! If you think there is a hand write book on all the Rules of hip-hop and how we should follow it then good for you. But look at it in the sence of "WHAT WILL ZUBZ GAIN FROM THIS?" What you think he must still pay his debt that he owes you cats? Lets look at it this way would Jay-Z respond to a diss track by Tuks? Its just an example no comparison here. Lets face it if Zubz responses to your calling then Mu will get all the fame as the CAT WHO BATTLED ZUBZ. We need to make quality music not some battle stuff, Do you Honestly think Metro or 5Fm will play the track during peak tym? We all claim to grow hip-hop but in the mean while we just trying to shine on each others shine. Just like every1 else I paid my debt and battled and freestyled on the street, but when it comes to making music most fail because they lack creativity. im glad you cats have a hip-hop show and you are growing the art, but to get radio airplay is a bitch. And if we all keep pushing this battle stuff we sending out a wrong message, when Bout Tym dropped a diss track bout me I just brushed my shoulder, and that hurts more an a return track.

Explicit
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: whitewash on August 10, 2006, 07:58:33 AM
Quote
187a**asin Tell me this aint hot-

That aint hot.

isnt hiphop-or all music fot that matter-about entertainment and expressing yourself ?? Who gives a f*&% about winning or losing a damn battle? the beauty of it is two people expressing themselves in their own way and being creative...yeah the winner will get some extra street cred or whatever but doesnt make him better or worse than anybody else.They should battle or whatever simply to entertain everybody irrespective of the outcome.
If u doing yr thing then props to you..do what u do. Whats the point in hating? c'mon grow up(and im not talkin to anybody in particular here-just in general).

Got love for zubz i enjoyed the album
munetsi im from zim but i never hurd of you - so no comment

Music is entertainment dont lower hiphop with the bullshit that was in this thread.

Thats just my 2 cents..
Peace

www.myspace.com/25tolyf
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on August 10, 2006, 08:03:08 AM
Quote from: "munetsi"
explicit. first i respect your opinion.second, before you open your mouth, get all your facts straight. third, i think you missed the point. third, i got nothing personal against dude. if i did i'd have spat over exhibit's paparazzi and called it zubzsarazzi or something(deleted it). fourth, thanks for the SAMA statement. interesting challenge. dude's older than my big brother - i got all the time for a SAMA:wink:
Dont get it twisted, but I believe you need another marketing gimmic if you are to crack the industry. Bring something fresh like a hot single. How would you feel if I dropped a diss track against you and then started shining cause of you, that would mean I just piggybacked into the industry, People want hits and good music so lets give them what they want while staying true to ourselves.

I dont have beef with you but im glad we could resolve this like gentlemen.
Word is Bond
Explicit
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Anthony on August 11, 2006, 11:18:13 AM
Quote
if Zubz responses to your calling then Mu will get all the fame as the CAT WHO BATTLED ZUBZ. We need to make quality music not some battle stuff, Do you Honestly think Metro or 5Fm will play the track during peak tym? We all claim to grow hip-hop but in the mean while we just trying to shine on each others shine. Just like every1 else I paid my debt and battled and freestyled on the street, but when it comes to making music most fail because they lack creativity. im glad you cats have a hip-hop show and you are growing the art, but to get radio airplay is a bitch. And if we all keep pushing this battle stuff we sending out a wrong message, when Bout Tym dropped a diss track bout me I just brushed my shoulder, and that hurts more an a return track.


good point.

PS, wsnt a diss track
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on August 11, 2006, 02:34:22 PM
damn middlecla** can't we all just get along hip hop.

Masta Ace stood to gain nothing from battling Boogieman...
LL Cool J nothing from beefing with Canibus...
Ice Cube nothing from battling Common...
ProKid nothing to gain from Kaydo....

Sure mU would gain more exposure from this than Zubz but this was all in the spirit of hip hop & THAT is what I mean when I say you (explicit et al) don't appreciate about hip hop culture...

I would feel flattered if an up & coming artist as talented as mU came at me respectfully challenging me.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: TeeZeR on August 11, 2006, 03:35:09 PM
Quote from: "Sensai_Tate"
Masta Ace stood to gain nothing from battling Boogieman...
LL Cool J nothing from beefing with Canibus...
Ice Cube nothing from battling Common...
ProKid nothing to gain from Kaydo....

Sure mU would gain more exposure from this than Zubz but this was all in the spirit of hip hop & THAT is what I mean when I say you (explicit et al) don't appreciate about hip hop culture...


Nice 1ne... :roll:


I think people are somehow trying to protect the distinction between battlkats and those that are jus ill writers per se! This topic will have all these discrepant views about battling as a whole. Some see it in good spirits for the hip hop, and some see it as a negative force that would lessen chances of fan-base...i suppose. I dunno, but i would enjoy havin to see the established kats getting behind the mic even if it's once a month, to rip it out face to face with each other or maybe with upcoming kats.

It's not shining on anyone's shine...but could be seen as establishing each other...if you have to relate it to gaining recognition. I mean...i wud still like to hear Flabba dissin...and all the likes. Jus like Rap Activity Jam...what creates hype around it sometimes is havin established kats comin with new kats...Zubz did go with Optical Ill when they were promoting their Album...so why not battle Munetsi for the love and elevation.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Simon the Contractor on September 06, 2006, 02:52:41 PM
So who won the battle?
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on September 07, 2006, 07:03:18 AM
Quote from: ASD
So who won the battle?[/quote]
Yo ASD Its done and Dusted if you missed out too bad, but dont bring back this Thread.

Explicit
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Sduhla on September 07, 2006, 09:28:02 AM
Explicit don't be an idiot. Have u even listened to the Cone tracks posted here on AG or on myspace.com/3wr U should, and u'll realise that Cone nor Snaz are battle emcees. Wut they are is betta lyricists than ur Last Letter. And I'm sure that he knows that as well. So before u decide to dickride, get ur f***en facts straight.
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on September 07, 2006, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: "Sduhla"
Explicit don't be an idiot. Have u even listened to the Cone tracks posted here on AG or on myspace.com/3wr U should, and u'll realise that Cone nor Snaz are battle emcees. Wut they are is betta lyricists than ur Last Letter. And I'm sure that he knows that as well. So before u decide to dickride, get ur f***en facts straight.


Attention seeking! I see, well good for you and Im happy that you had your bowl of STUPIDITY for breakfast

Explicit
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: briCK on September 07, 2006, 11:06:28 AM
opinions are just that opinions

BUT come on it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that Mu would kill last letter Z both are probably less venomous than I but come on..Zubs is a nice cat Mu is just f***ing vicious! I would not be fair to put those two in the same space

" i got more wit that a bakery"

come on!

so what you fly..I'm bird migration!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Simon the Contractor on September 07, 2006, 02:45:19 PM
Mybad Explicit... i didnt get the results of the battle (if it actually happened yet). Who won?
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: Dt on September 28, 2006, 10:40:43 AM
MUNETSI DUDE IS WACK ! INBOX ME IF U WANNA BATTLE RIGHT HERE !!! LAST LETTA WILL SMASH UR PUNY LIL PUNK a** NE TYM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: illmas on May 02, 2007, 11:04:12 AM
Munetsi whoz dis ngiga?? i think we must have a southern african battle royal best of zim vs sa vs z-sec(zambia) vs Bots vs Nam brigade vs Swazi vs Lesotho ...........

then the champ would battle me
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: N.A 187 on October 16, 2007, 07:40:45 PM
Right....

TO EXPLICITE

Some of us dont give a pale crap what money is coming in rap coz we got careers that will bring da money home, as much as it would hurt... rap is what im and a whole lot of emceez out there are trying to make art.

"MAKE ART"

NOT a money making scheme.

work on ur conceptual tracks, naa nan naa UNDER STATEMNET

WORK ON UR CONCEPT ABOUT RAP
Title: ZUBZ vs MUNETSI Battlecry
Post by: ree on October 17, 2007, 07:11:38 PM
illmas the "champ" should battle u because u r........?