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Chief Rocka - Open Mic / Re: have you ever...
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Chief Rocka - Open Mic / Re: have you ever...
« on: June 12, 2008, 12:42:58 PM »Bell Hooks you prescribe...some how she is very hedonistic about women...but then the prescribed text was not for me...
i hope through this, we have made some sort of peace?
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General Discussion / whites
« on: April 20, 2007, 03:35:10 PM »
but first to deal with this minor irritation. rob one.
and enjoyed living off apartheid no doubt. i'm not a**erting that your family is comprised of racists, only that some of your patriotism could be due to developing a taste for the skin off our backs.
could be.
i mean. i dont think destitution would result in such strong feelings against being 'kicked out'.
further more you talk about a half-baked political thesis. i loathe politics. they are a foreign perversion.
but it is typical for you to try and discredit this thread by reverting to such european institutions of thought. you aim to be my superior through rational theorizing as by white modes of thought and through doing that aim to derail the black centred discourse of this thread.
why are you so afraid to let us talk truth/share ideas?
this is not about your insecurities about listening to hip hop as a white man. this is about the suffering of a people, and that suffering being directly perpetuated by the presence of your people.
if you disagree with the notions, then at least consider where they come from. what are they a symptom of. where and what is the fire.
look out of your window. why do we live tin boxes on red dust and you in brick houses on green lawns.
this is not an 'i love dead prez thread'. this is real shit that a lot of black people feel. don't be one of those infiltrating liberals biko warned about: those who come in only to trivialize and berate issues and actions that our people consider seriously - all too maintain the status quo whereby you feel guitly on a full stomach and we starve.
what you see on tv and hear in the "concious hip hop" you consume is a reality for some of us.
and by the way, any black person who would rather be marginalized in the heart of an empire as opposed to returning to an africa where its reaches have been abolished would be more a laugh to me than i would be to them.
Quote from: "rob one"
My family are third generation
and enjoyed living off apartheid no doubt. i'm not a**erting that your family is comprised of racists, only that some of your patriotism could be due to developing a taste for the skin off our backs.
could be.
i mean. i dont think destitution would result in such strong feelings against being 'kicked out'.
further more you talk about a half-baked political thesis. i loathe politics. they are a foreign perversion.
but it is typical for you to try and discredit this thread by reverting to such european institutions of thought. you aim to be my superior through rational theorizing as by white modes of thought and through doing that aim to derail the black centred discourse of this thread.
why are you so afraid to let us talk truth/share ideas?
this is not about your insecurities about listening to hip hop as a white man. this is about the suffering of a people, and that suffering being directly perpetuated by the presence of your people.
if you disagree with the notions, then at least consider where they come from. what are they a symptom of. where and what is the fire.
look out of your window. why do we live tin boxes on red dust and you in brick houses on green lawns.
this is not an 'i love dead prez thread'. this is real shit that a lot of black people feel. don't be one of those infiltrating liberals biko warned about: those who come in only to trivialize and berate issues and actions that our people consider seriously - all too maintain the status quo whereby you feel guitly on a full stomach and we starve.
what you see on tv and hear in the "concious hip hop" you consume is a reality for some of us.
and by the way, any black person who would rather be marginalized in the heart of an empire as opposed to returning to an africa where its reaches have been abolished would be more a laugh to me than i would be to them.
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General Discussion / whites
« on: April 20, 2007, 01:29:28 PM »Quote from: "blaqsouljah"
bluntedcacti: you have opened a can of worms on this issue. it has been debated and discussed way too many times to recall.
briCK: i understand that these are your personal views - and i respect that.
i think that there is a generalisation that you make though (granted it being a personal view) - white people see you as less than human. yes it's true that some of them are like that - but not all of them. as it is true that we as blacks also are able to distinctly cla**ify others according to race and the comments that we pa** amongst ourselves rival the worst racist behaviour. can we be "pro-africa" without being anti-white / caucasian? i don't know - we (non-white) also use race as a beacon, or starting point / point of reference. maybe not a fault of our own, but maybe our own fault to have adopted something that is within our control to alter. maybe i am being naive and such. but does being militant and trendy ultra leftist mean that we should also do what we so complain about?
i consistently find myself in the company of "white" people who are dear friends - some of them the longest standing friendship that i have had. and then i ask myself if then it is true that these people consider me sub-human - solely judging by the conversations that are rife amongst us black people. some are son's-a-bitches and racial (much as we can be), and others are decent and take one at face value - as a human being.
i'll reply to this later.
yo briCK youre a mod, right. delete them other shits.
this is the right thread.
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General Discussion / whites
« on: April 20, 2007, 01:19:01 PM »
i agree with you, man. you speak truth. i just wonder though:
in a situation where the whites would be ousted completely to the point where they impose their sulky sanctions, cut africa off, and re-a**ert "africans have once and for all proven themselves to be tree-swinging apeshits that stomach bananas not civilization"; where they would discontinue trade and communication with the "dark continent of the witch doctor and the cannibal"; remove all the faculties that afford the white-black the illusion of being caucasoid: ipods, pin-striped suits, dickens, paper money, british airways, private banking and television; where they to completely be immaterial save for the stains of their language on our tongues and fingertips; where they to leave and pack with them all their white shit...
then what would those europhile blacks do without the means to aspire to a caucosoid humanness. with nothing but the clothes on their backs and their polished accents which would, just like the language itself, eventually become brittle and ma**ively distorted to a trivial mumble.
would africa be better, and if not, would it at least feel less like a neo-colonial cage?
would blacks who want to be blacks actually have a f***ing say in how their experience the world as opposed to dodging (and enduring) the brainwashing and monetary puppet-strings of white captors?
what then?
as for mswati: i can only wonder how much shit the swazi have to have shoved down their throats before they can spit it back on the face of the pot-bellied f***.
can the black women on africasgateway ululate?
in a situation where the whites would be ousted completely to the point where they impose their sulky sanctions, cut africa off, and re-a**ert "africans have once and for all proven themselves to be tree-swinging apeshits that stomach bananas not civilization"; where they would discontinue trade and communication with the "dark continent of the witch doctor and the cannibal"; remove all the faculties that afford the white-black the illusion of being caucasoid: ipods, pin-striped suits, dickens, paper money, british airways, private banking and television; where they to completely be immaterial save for the stains of their language on our tongues and fingertips; where they to leave and pack with them all their white shit...
then what would those europhile blacks do without the means to aspire to a caucosoid humanness. with nothing but the clothes on their backs and their polished accents which would, just like the language itself, eventually become brittle and ma**ively distorted to a trivial mumble.
would africa be better, and if not, would it at least feel less like a neo-colonial cage?
would blacks who want to be blacks actually have a f***ing say in how their experience the world as opposed to dodging (and enduring) the brainwashing and monetary puppet-strings of white captors?
what then?
as for mswati: i can only wonder how much shit the swazi have to have shoved down their throats before they can spit it back on the face of the pot-bellied f***.
can the black women on africasgateway ululate?
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General Discussion / whites
« on: April 20, 2007, 12:51:09 PM »Quote from: "briCK"
I hate hearing black folk saying this to justify righting wrongs...wrong is WRONG and say we all human makes me blow my top in rage..the same people you are saying we are all human about call you a monkey f*** that shit.
I personnally don't think Whites will ever loot at the black as human.
you have to gradudate at something to be considored."morden blacks" "civilised blacks" "smart blacks" "cool blacks" "educated blacks" etc there has to be a prefix otherwise you just not human in they eyes
The black man goes through all sorts of complexes in aspirations of getting the ever elusive respect of the white man..why we do it is beyond me we loose ourswelves to lower our standards to accomodate a people who have on numerous occasions have repeatedly showed that they don't consider you human. This is the reason Africans can't rule themselves as I mentioned in that thread we no-longer African African we are [insert a prefix that is acceptable to white people here]Africans so weather Whites leave or not it makes no difference the Majority of blacks got f***ED views..how the f*** as a commoner are you going to comment on Royalty..this is response to some story about someone insulting King Mswati after spending R15million rand on a Royal Birthday bash..who the f*** are you?
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General Discussion / whites
« on: April 20, 2007, 12:09:24 PM »
an objectively posed question:
in all honesty - should they be ousted from the continent?
this is directed at everyone: whites, sympathisers, liberals, "racists", coconuts etc.
are the ideologies of garvey and sobukwe on point?
with rhetoric such as "reverse racism", "innocent white generations", "economics", "we're all human", "forgive and forget", "forgive but dont forget", "neslon mandela", "separatist ideology is reactionary", "look at hitler", "they're not all bad" etc.
are all their citizenship documents written with the bloodstains of history?
in all honesty - should they be ousted from the continent?
this is directed at everyone: whites, sympathisers, liberals, "racists", coconuts etc.
are the ideologies of garvey and sobukwe on point?
with rhetoric such as "reverse racism", "innocent white generations", "economics", "we're all human", "forgive and forget", "forgive but dont forget", "neslon mandela", "separatist ideology is reactionary", "look at hitler", "they're not all bad" etc.
are all their citizenship documents written with the bloodstains of history?