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General Discussion / Vast Aire
« on: July 28, 2011, 01:29:18 PM »
been listening to Vast's solo albums, lately.

i've been trying hard.

that 'Cold Vein' feeling isn't coming.

why, though?

even the tracks with Vordul don't really feel like 'thee' Cann Ox.

is it because El-P's beats aren't there?

Vast still uses his metaphors, still has his voice and sentence structure.

don't me wrong. some tracks are amazing. but there's no 'wow'.

what do you think?

Hot Traxxx / SA RAP
« on: January 13, 2011, 05:46:47 PM »
a thread about everything SA rap related. it seems redundant since this is Africasgateway, but desperate times...

anyway i'll start getting the ball rolling by asking what's up with this?

General Discussion / i actually still f***ing like africasgateway
« on: December 18, 2010, 01:57:44 AM »
for the people on it.

big yourselves up.

General Discussion / @Dr. Essex
« on: December 09, 2010, 02:35:39 PM »
me: bro
buttercup: sup bro
me: tl;dr
buttercup: re the novel?
seems okay
seems tl;dr
me: 'f***ing drunk'
buttercup: jesus, it is only 1:46 in the u.s.
me: here it is 20:47
buttercup: that is 8:47p.m.
damn, okay, seems okay
happy new years bro
me: to you too bro
got laid yet?
buttercup: no, unlikely
going on a date in 15 min
might 'yield something'
probably not though
me: hope you don't 'off' yourself
buttercup: i have already decided to
the events have been set in motion
wtf does that mean 'events set in motion'
'f***ing cliches'
jesus, you type so slow
i have to go soon
   6 minutes
buttercup: sup m______
me: sorry bro. at a guesthouse. gf and friends talking about the caretaker looking at their a**es. he was sitting outside and heard them.
do not 'off' yourself bro.
buttercup: why not bro
i'm done, i am happy with me oeuvre
so satisfied with life, seems 'over'
this time last year i had a girlfriend, i met her a this time a year before that. i feel like i am in limbo, like i am living in purgatory. i feel 'finished.' there is nothing else to do, i'm not feeling better or worse about anything. i really want an ice cream sandwich
   6 minutes
me: seems like there is 'more to life' or something. like, you can 'be/do more' or something. do you think cliches can be viewed as detachment?
ice cream sandwich seems sweet
sorry bro
'gf' is crying
   14 minutes
buttercup: jesus, seems okay
   13 minutes
me: okay, now.
me: like your work. let us chat again when there is less distraction. happy new years bro.

Politics / WIKILEAKS
« on: December 02, 2010, 04:23:12 AM »
post things from cable gate that you find interesting or want to discuss.

here is a cable from former US Amba**ador to Harare, Christopher W. Dell:

"Zimbabwe: The End is Nigh"

DE RUEHSB #0638/01 1941004
P 131004Z JUL 07

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 HARARE 000638
E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/12/2017
SUBJECT: The End is Nigh
Cla**ified By: Amba**ador Christopher W. Dell under Section 1.4b/d
¶1.  (C)  Having said my piece repeatedly over the last three years,
I won't offer a lengthy prescription for our Zimbabwe
policy.  My views can be stated very simply as stay the
course and prepare for change.  Our policy is working and it's
helping to drive change here.  What is required is simply the grit,
determination and focus to see this through.  Then, when the changes
finally come we must be ready to move quickly to help consolidate
the new dispensation.
¶2.  (C)  Robert Mugabe has survived for so long because he is more
clever and more ruthless than any other politician in
Zimbabwe.  To give the devil his due, he is a brilliant
tactitian and has long thrived on his ability to abruptly
change the rules of the game, radicalize the political
dynamic and force everyone else to react to his agenda.
However, he is fundamentally hampered by several factors:
his ego and belief in his own infallibility; his obsessive
focus on the past as a justification for everything in the
present and future; his deep ignorance on economic issues
(coupled with the belief that his 18 doctorates give him
the authority to suspend the laws of economics, including
supply and demand); and his essentially short-term,
tactical style.
¶3.  (C)  While his tactical skills have kept him in power for 27
years, over the last seven this has only been achieved by a
series of populist, but destructive and ultimately
self-defeating moves.  In reaction to losing the 2000
referendum on the constitution, a vengeful Mugabe unleashed
his QGreen BombersQ to commit land reform and in the
process he destroyed ZimbabweQs agricultural sector, once the
bedrock of the economy.  While thousands of white farmers
saw their properties seized, hundreds of thousands of black
Zimbabweans lost their livelihoods and were reduced to utter
poverty.  In 2005, having been forced to steal victory by
manipulating the results of an election he lost, Mugabe
lashed out again, punishing the urban populace by launching
Operation Murambatsvina.  The result was wholesale
destruction of the informal sector, on which as much as
70-80 percent of urban dwellers had depended, and the
uprooting of 700,000 Zimbabweans.  The current inflationary
cycle really began with Murambatsvina, as rents and prices
grew in response to a decrease in supply.
¶4.  (C)  And now, faced with the hyperinflationary consequences
of his ruinous fiscal policies and growing reliance on the
printing press to keep his government running, Mugabe has
launched Operation Slash Prices.  This has once again given
him a very temporary boost in popularity (especially among
the police, who have led the looting of retail outlets and
now seem well positioned to take a leading role in the
black market economy) at the cost of terrible damage to the
country and people.  Many small grocery and shop owners,
traders, etc., will be wiped out; the shelves are
increasingly bare; hunger, fear, and tension are growing;
fuel has disappeared.  When the shelves are still empty
this time next week, the popular appeal of the price roll
back will evaporate and the government simply doesnQt have
the resources to replace the entire private commercial
sector and keep Zimbabweans fed.  It may attempt to do so
by printing more money, adding even more inflationary
pressure on a system already reeling from the GOZQs
quasi-fiscal lunacy combined with the price impact of
pervasive shortages.  The increasingly worthless Zim dollar
is likely to collapse as a unit of trade in the near
future, depriving the GOZ of its last economic tool other
than sheer thuggery and theft of othersQ a**ets.
¶5.  (C)  With all this in view, IQm convinced the end is not
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far off for the Mugabe regime.  Of course, my predecessors
and many other observers have all said the same thing, and
yet Mugabe is still with us.  I think this time could prove
different, however, because for the first time the
president is under intensifying pressure simultaneously on
the economic, political and international fronts.  In the
past, he could always play one of these off against the
other, using economic moves to counter political pressure
or playing the old colonial/race/imperialist themes to buy
himself breathing room regionally and internationally.  But
he is running out of options and in the swirling gases of
the new Zimbabwean constellation that is starting to form,
the economic, political and international pressures are
concentrating on Mugabe himself.  Our ZANU-PF contacts are
virtually unanimous in saying reform is desperately needed,
but won't happen while the Old Man is there, and therefore
he must go (finding the courage to make that happen is
another matter, however, but even that may be coming closer).
This is not some sudden awakening on the road to
Damascus, but a reflection of the pain even party insiders
increasingly feel over the economic meltdown.  We also get
regular, albeit anecdotal, reports of angry and
increasingly open mutterings against Mugabe even in ZANU-PF's
traditional rural bastions.   Beginning in March, the
other SADC leaders finally recognized (in the wake of the
terrible beatings of March 11 and the international outcry
that followed Q another self-inflicted wound for Mugabe)
that Zimbabwe is a problem they need to address.  Thabo
Mbeki appears committed to a successful mediation and is
reportedly increasingly irritated with MugabeQs efforts to
manipulate him or blow him off altogether.  If Mugabe
judges that he still commands all he surveys by virtue of
being the elder statesman on the scene, he may be
committing yet another serious blunder.  Finally, one does
well to recall that the only serious civil disturbances
here in a decade came in 1998 over bread shortages, showing
that even the famously pa**ive Shona people have their
limits.  The terror and oppression of the
intervening years have cowed people, but itQs anyoneQs guess
whether their fear or their anger will win out in the end.
¶6.  (C)  This is the big, unanswerable question.  One thing
at least is certain, Mugabe will not wake up one morning a
changed man, resolved to set right all he has wrought.  He
will not go quietly nor without a fight.  He will cling to
power at all costs and the costs be damned, he deserves to
rule by virtue of the liberation struggle and land reform and
the people of Zimbabwe have let him down by failing to
appreciate this, thus he neednQt worry about their
well-being.  The only scenario in which he might agree to
go with a modicum of good grace is one in which he
concludes that the only way to end his days a free man is
by leaving State House.  I judge that he is still a long
way from this conclusion and will fight on for now.
¶7.  (C)  The optimal outcome, of course, and the only one that
doesnQt bring with it a huge risk of violence and conflict, is
a genuinely free and fair election, under international
supervision.  The Mbeki mediation offers the best, albeit
very slim, hope of getting there.  However, as Pretoria
grows more and more worried about the chaos to its north
and President MbekiQs patience with MugabeQs antics wears
thin, the prospects for serious South African engagement
may be growing.  Thus, this effort deserves all the support
and backing we can muster.  Less attractive is the idea of
a South African-brokered transitional arrangement or
government of national unity.  Mbeki has always favored
stability and in his mind this means a ZANU-PF-led GNU, with
perhaps a few MDC additions.  This solution is more likely
to prolong than resolve the crisis and we must guard
against letting Pretoria dictate an outcome which
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perpetuates the status quo at the expense of real change
and reform.
¶8.  (C)  The other scenarios are all less attractive:  a popular
uprising would inevitably entail a bloodbath, even if it
were ultimately successful; MugabeQs sudden, unexpected
death would set off a stampede for power among ZANU-PF
heavy weights; a palace coup, whether initiated within
ZANU-PF or from the military - in which Mugabe is removed,
killed, exiled or otherwise disposed of, could well devolve
into open conflict between the contending successors.   Similarly,
some form of "constitutional coup" i.e., a change at the top
engineered within the framework of ZANU-PFQs "legitimate"
structures could well prove to be merely the opening bell
in a prolonged power struggle.  None of the players is
likely to go quietly into the night without giving everything
they have, including calling on
their supporters in the security services. Moreover, experience
elsewhere would suggest that whoever comes out on top
initially will struggle, and more than likely fail, to halt
the economic collapse.  Thus, there is a good prospect of
not one but a series of rapid-fire Qtransitions,Q until
some new, stable dispensation is reached.
¶9.  (C)  The final, and probably worst, possibility is that Mugabe
concludes he can settle for ruling over a rump Zimbabwe,
maintaining control over Harare and the Mashona heartland,
the critical forces of the National Reserve Force and CIO
and a few key a**ets Q gold, diamonds, platinum and Air
Zimbabwe to fund the good times.  Under this scenario the
rest of the country, in one of the comradeQs favorite
phrases, could Qgo hang,Q leaving it to the international
community to stave off the worst humanitarian consequences.
¶10.  (C)  ZimbabweQs opposition is far from ideal and I leave
convinced that had we had different partners we could have
achieved more already.  But you have to play the hand youQre dealt.
With that in mind, the current leadership has little executive
experience and will require ma**ive hand holding and a**istance
should they ever come to power.
¶11.  (C)  Morgan Tsvangarai is a brave, committed man and, by and
large, a democrat.  He is also the only player on the scene
right now with real star quality and the ability to rally
the ma**es.  But Tsvangarai is also a flawed figure, not
readily open to advice, indecisive and with questionable
judgment in selecting those around him.  He is the indispensable
element for opposition success, but possibly an albatross around
t heir necks once in power.  In short, he is a kind of Lech Walesa
character:  Zimbabwe needs him, but should not rely on his executive
abilities to lead the country's recovery.  Arthur Mutambara is young
and ambitious, attracted to radical, anti-western rhetoric and
smart as a whip.  But, in many respects heQs a light-weight
who has spent too much time reading U.S. campaign messaging
manuals and too little thinking about the real issues.  Welshman
Ncube has proven to be a deeply divisive
and destructive player in the opposition ranks and the
sooner he is pushed off the stage, the better.  But he is
useful to many, including the regime and South Africa, so
is probably a cross to be borne for some time yet.  The
prospects for healing the rift within the MDC seem dim,
which is a totally unnecessary self-inflicted wound on
their part this time.  With few exceptions Q Tendayi Biti,
Nelson Chamisa Q the talent is thin below the top ranks.
The great saving grace of the opposition is likely to be
found in the diaspora.  Most of ZimbabweQs best
professionals, entrepreneurs, businessmen and women, etc.,
have fled the country.  They are the oppositionQs natural
allies and it is encouraging to see signs, particularly in
South Africa and the UK, that these people are talking,
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sharing ideas, developing plans and thinking together about
future recovery.
¶12.  (C)  Unfortunately, among the MDCQs flaws is its inability to
work more effectively with the rest of civil society.  The
blame for this can be shared on both sides (many civil
society groups, like the NCA, are single-issue focused and
take the overall dynamic in unhelpful directions; others,
like WOZA, insist on going it alone as a matter of
principle), but ultimately it falls to the MDC as the
largest and the only true political party, to show the
way.  Once again, however, these are natural allies and
they have more reason to work together than fight against each
¶13.  (C)  If I am right and change is in the offing, we need to
step up our preparations.  The work done over the last year on
transition planning has been extremely useful, both for
stimulating a fresh look at our own a**umptions and plans
and for forging a common approach among the traditional
donor community.  But the process has lagged since the
meetings in March in London and should be re-energized.  It is
encouraging in this respect that USAID Washington has
engaged the Mission here in discussing how we would use
additional resources in response to a genuinely
reform-minded government .  I hope this will continue and
the good work done so far will survive the usual
bloodletting of the budget process.
¶14.  (C)  The official media has had a field day recently whooping
that "Dell leaves Zimbabwe a failed man".  That's not quite
how it looks from here.  I believe that the firm
U.S. stance, the willingness to speak out and stand up,
have contributed to the accelerating pace of change.
Mugabe and his henchman are like bullies everywhere:  if
they can intimidate you they will.  But ther're not used to
someone standing up to them and fighting back.  It catches them
off guard and that's when they make mistakes. The howls of protest
over critical  statements from Washington or negative coverage
on CNN are the clearest proof of how this hurts them.  Ditto
the squeals over Qillegal sanctions.Q  In addition, the regime
has become so used to calling the shots and dictating the
pace that the merest stumble panics them.  Many local
observers have noted that Mugabe is panicked and
desperate about hyperinflation at the moment, and hence heQs
making mistakes.  Possibly fatal mistakes.  We need to
keep the pressure on in order to keep Mugabe off his game
and on his back foot, relying on his own shortcomings to do
him in.  Equally important is an active U.S. leadership
role in the international community.  The UK is ham-strung
by its colonial past and domestic politics, thus, letting them
set the pace alone merely limits our effectiveness.  The EU is
divided between the hard north and its soft southern
underbelly.  The Africans are only now beginning to find
their voice.  Rock solid partners like Australia donQt
pack enough punch to step out front and the UN is a
non-player.  Thus it falls to the U.S., once again, to take
the lead, to say and do the hard things and to set the agenda.
Hundreds, maybe thousands, of ordinary Zimbabweans of all
kinds have told me that our clear, forthright stance has
given them hope and the courage to hang on.  By this regimeQs
standards, acting in the interests of the people may indeed be
considered a failure.  But I believe that the opposite is true,
and that we can be justifiably proud that in Zimbabwe we have
helped advance the PresidentQs freedom Agenda.  The people of
this country know it and recognize it and that is the true
touchstone of our success here.

Hot Traxxx / Earl Sweatshirt
« on: November 17, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »

1.) Thisniggaugly
2.) Earl
3.) Couch (feat. Tyler, The Creator)
4.) Kill
5.) Wakeupfaggot
6.) Luper
7.) epaR (feat. Vince Staples)
8.) Moonlight (feat. Hodgy Beats)
9.) Pigions (feat. Wolf Haley)
10.) Stapleton

"Earl Sweatshirt Releases His First f***ing Album. Lyrics About Rape, Coke, And Couches Will Be Blaring In  Your Ears With The Dopest f***ing Beats To Date. Featuring Production By Tyler The Creator, Left Brain And Others." -

my favourite new emcee. and one of my favourite albums of the year. been bumping this shit for a minute!

"Now pan the cameras back to me and pamela's amateur threesome with hannah montana's manager/Miley feedin' me Sandwiches for my stamina and santa's in the back laughin' cause my back crampin' up"

Odd future Wolf Gang Kill Them All. f*** Steve Harvey, nigga.

[discuss this shit, here]

Hot Traxxx / TOP and Ootz Freestyle
« on: October 28, 2010, 01:34:09 AM »
at the SABC studios.

when i'm on cogniac i transform into a maniac.

Hot Traxxx / new cape town shit!
« on: October 21, 2010, 02:39:25 PM »
i know a lot of you will find this familiar. RR where you at?  ;D

yeah, son. you know how it go.... ;D

Hot Traxxx / Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!
« on: October 18, 2010, 08:00:11 PM »
Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All

"Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All are a 10-deep hip-hop collective. But don't dare call them the new Wu-Tang Clan. They insist they're different. The collective features rappers, producers, visual artists, skate kids, contrarians, outcasts, amoral teenagers, and fatherless children. They are known for several things: They excoriate the rap blogs Nah Right and 2dopeboyz, because those sites refuse to promote OFWGKTA's music. They hate the Los Angeles hip-hop dance movement called jerkin' and all practitioners. Their mantra is "f*** Steve Harvey." They have re-appropriated swastikas for their visual palette. One of their members, 16-year-old Earl Sweatshirt, is currently in boot camp, or prison, or boarding school, or he's on a long vacation-- it's difficult to tell. They worship the streetwear brand Supreme's box logo hoodies. They have a Tumblr. On that Tumblr, active since February, they have self-released solo albums, EPs, and mixtapes. All of their music is free. They rap about raping women. Often. They live by a code-- if something is cool, it's swagged out. If it's not, f*** it. Talented, hilarious, villainous, immature, precocious, and viral-- they are at the vanguard of modern hip-hop." [entire]

here's a tape: "Radical": LINK REMOVED/?d=V42298AH

would write a mega-post but i think between the article and the tumblr [ ] that's not necessary.

one of the oddest and strangely dope and innovative things i've come across this year. i have a feeling there'll be more.

some oooooother shit is going down with Hip Hop in 2010! anyone else feel that?

General Discussion / New Die Antwoord
« on: October 07, 2010, 01:17:13 PM »
new joint by Die Antwoord called "Evil Boy".

there's  a new member.

homie 'goes in' on Xhosa circumcision. ["mamelapha mngqunduwakho andifuni ukuya ehlathini...sukubamba incanca yam, andisostabana...andifuni uk'bayindoda, Evil Boy for life"]

General Discussion / conscious heads
« on: October 04, 2010, 02:18:09 PM »
conscious heads are people who don't like hip hop, but like a certain sound and certain way of thinking that came from a certain era and certain group within hip hop.

they revise what hip hop is according to their taste and claim that the shit they like is hip hop. all because a few rappers (KRS-ONE) told them so.

this pa**ed week i listened to 2 hour long mixes of hip hop from 1990 to 1998. i realized that if you average it out, music from the golden era just sounds different, but doesn't actually deviate that much in content to what you could find on the airwaves in 2010. in fact new music is smarter, more sonically innovative, 'sensitive' and even funnier than 90's rap. the only reason heads call it transient (there ain't no 'cla**ics') is because it's  too contemporary for them to attach it to nostalgia.

conscious heads are conservatives. maybe all the shit they hate and that embarra**es them about hip hop [or 'rap'] is hip hop. maybe hip hop was always meant to be nasty and misanthropic and not easily palatable to your parents. and maybe that's the beauty of it. it accommodated everyone, even the dumba**es no one would take seriously in society. the shit didn't judge and it offered complete freedom of expression.

so the irony is that the shit  the conscious heads say is killing hip hop is hip hop and the shit they believe in is just one out of its many faces.

which is why, after guiding you for years, all your favourite conscious rappers are now post-conscious. which is a subgenre of hip hop that is aware of consciousness, but doesn't make itself exclusive to the sound, artists and thinking of what is generally regarded as 'mainstream' (all those features that disappoint those of you with a rigid perspective).


Hot Traxxx / onek1nd
« on: October 02, 2010, 05:22:22 AM »
'I'm So Ready' is a masterpiece.

you deserve a case for this, bra yam.

everyone who's had the misfortune of drinking with me has heard this track at least five times.

that is all.

for those of you who missed it the first time:

LINK REMOVED/?w4h6bho1mj8w1hc

Hot Traxxx / das racist!
« on: October 02, 2010, 05:02:06 AM »
okay, i've been mouthing off about Das Racist for a while, now. i think this is a dope write up that gets to centre of the whole shit:

last week Das Racist's new mixtape got a glowing review  and a score of 8.7 out of 10 on pitchfork, and a coveted Best New Music designation, and then the next day i was in central park seeing Pavement and when Pavement was finished playing, i texted Himanshu, one of the rappers in Das Racist, to see if i could ask him some questions. like a month ago i did this reading that Das Racist also did, and after the reading ended everyone went outside and i talked to Himanshu and i said i wanted to write something about Das Racist and asked him if i could talk to him about it at a later date and he said yes and gave me his phone number. so he texts me back, "how long is it finna take" and i say "about 20 min" and he texts me back with his address and i say "okay see you soon" and i take the subway from central park to bushwick

i knock on the door of the apartment building whose address he gave me because there are no buzzers even though there are multiple apartments in the building, and nothing happens so i text him "yo i'm here" and then i try to open the front door to the building and it is unlocked and i walk in and stand in the lobby area waiting for him, i am nervous and i am wishing i had taken an anti-anxiety pill and i wonder if i have one in my pocket so i check my pocket but i don't and i think about running outside to buy a 40 but then Himanshu comes down the stairs. he is barefoot and he gets halfway down the stairs and crouches and looks at me for a second and smiles and gives me the finger guns and goes, "yo" and he smiles and i say "hey how's it going?"

Himanshu is Indian and is olive-skinned and he is wearing gray skinny jeans and a black tanktop with white stripes across it. i am middle-eastern and also olive-skinned and wearing a t-shirt with a picture of a bull on it and a backpack and blue pants and later Himanshu asks me what brand my pants are and i say "Alife" and he says "are you into urban clothing?" and i say "i guess i am?" and he nods and looks like he is making a mental note

anyway he greets me and we walk up the stairs and into the living room of an apartment that has some paintings hanging on the walls and a table by a window and i ask him if it is his apartment or someone else's. he says he is subletting a room in it but it is his friend's place. he tells me he is subletting month-by-month and he won't be here next month because Das Racist is touring in China. he tells me that Asia has more money to pay bands and the trend of more bands touring in Asia is a future trend that he is predicting, and he gestures that i should write that down

we talk a little bit and he is jovial but is a little nervous too and when he is talking to me he doesn't make eye contact a lot of the time. i try to explain that i am not trying to skewer him or catch him saying something dumb, and he doesn't have a reason to be nervous about this, and he seems relieved but still suspicious and says that there is a complex relationship between musicians and the people who are writing about them. i ask if i can use the bathroom and he says "go ahead man" and i go into the bathroom and there is a really stinky towel hanging off a hook on the bathroom door, i don't know if it is Himanshu's or someone else's, and then i come out of the bathroom and we walk into one of the bedrooms and Himanshu wipes some ash off of the edge of the bed and i sit on the edge of the bed in the spot where he wiped the ash away

Himanshu sits up against the wall at the head of the bed. there is a guy sitting in a computer chair in front of a desk with a computer and a big bottle of vodka and personal-sized small bottles of grapefruit juice on the desk, and Himanshu introduces us and the guy asks me if i want a "greyhound" and i say "okay, is it just the vodka and grapefruit juice?" and himanshu says "damn you never had a greyhound?" and i said "i don't think so but i'll have one now"

so Himanshu's friend makes me a greyhound and i drink some of it and i tell Himanshu that i am also subletting month-by-month in bushwick and that i don't have a bed because i know i am going to just be moving soon anyway, it doesn't make sense to buy a bed only to have to move it every month, so now i just sleep on a futon in the living room of an apartment with a guy i don't know who doesn't like me because i sleep in the living room so he can't watch TV at night

Himanshu says that his parents moved to Long Island from Queens after he went to college and that his parents' new house isn't the place he grew up in and he is part of a diaspora and being a part of a diaspora means not having a home. i feel sad for a second. he says "not having a permanent place that you're at for a year is a type of homelessness that will drive a man crazy." i can’t think of any of my friends who are under 26 that have lived in a single place for more than a year. he looks sad for a second when he says that he hasn't felt like he was home since before he went to college, which was seven years ago, and then he says that he and Victor, who is the other member of Das Racist, do not own computers and just use the computers that are in the places that they are staying. i try to think about how i feel when i can't get on my computer for a few days and try to imagine what it is like to not even have a computer. this may not sound like a tragedy or particularly painful imposition but suffering and need are relative. i wonder if Das Racist's frequent lyrics about the internet are rooted in not having computers

he turns to his friend and asks, "what does transient mean again?" and his friend goes "it means you change genders!" and laughs and i laugh too and Himanshu giggles and says "okay dude, i KNOW what it means, you just always have this sense of insecurity about what you are saying when you grow up with two languages"

Himanshu points out that his friend is wearing "great sock" because his socks have a fancy pattern and then he tells me that his friend is wearing great sock because he is French and comes from a great lineage and then tells me that he only hangs out with people from the best lineages and laughs

i tell Himanshu that i think Das Racist is a project about race with some jokes and pop culture and internet references in orbit around the race issues, and not vice versa, and the pitchfork review of their mixtape, which actually contains such a grave misapprehension of Das Racist's mission that i think it is what prompted me to text Himanshu, only mentions the word "race" one time and glosses over how racially-focused their music is. i tell Himanshu that their pitchfork review was like a 1000-word review of Silence of the Lambs where the writer only mentions the serial killer one time, or a review of The Little Mermaid that only mentions an undersea princess one time, and he thinks for a second and agrees. i tell Himanshu that before they made everyone take their shoes off at the airport, they made me and my dad take our shoes off at the airport, and he laughs, and i am trying to indicate to him that there is an aspect of Das Racist's paranoia about being treated differently for being brown that i feel too but it is hard to say something like that directly. maybe i need another greyhound

sometimes after Himanshu says something and i am writing down what he says, he turns to his friend and makes jokes. his friend says something about being hung over and Himanshu says that the best way to address a hangover is to put on a suit, because if you put on a suit, nobody will think you are hung over and you will feel like a million bucks! Himanshu goes on, "you don't even need a suit, just dress pants and a button down and people who wear just wear jeans every day a**ume you're wearing a suit" and he laughs and his friend laughs and then Himanshu gets up to go to the bathroom and knocks over a bottle of vodka that was on the floor. i think he is getting more comfortable

Himanshu says that Das Racist recorded the mixtape in 3 weeks and released it 2 weeks later and he hasn't yet had time to build thoughts of it as a cohesive work because he has only listened to each song five or ten times and i am thinking that i have listened to it more times than that and i think about mentioning that to him and noting how it is weird that i have listened to his record more times than he has but then decide not to mention it

there is a lull in our conversation because i am writing stuff down and Himanshu asks me how Pavement was and i say "pretty good" and he says "i heard my first Pavement song two or three days ago" and i notice that he has a tattoo on his arm of an airplane and i say "what is the tattoo for?" and he says that airplanes are symbolic of recent waves of immigration, and he went to school a few blocks from Ground Zero and then he hesitates for a second and says "and lots of different reasons i guess?"

we talk more about socks and Himanshu says that his mom buys him his socks, and then i remember that the first time i met him, Himanshu told me that he used to work on wall street and he has a line where he says "still livin' off severance cash" so i ask him what his job was and he sips his drink and goes, "i was a headhunter focusing on sales trading in emerging markets. i hired people who worked on emerging markets trading desks. if someone got fired, i would help them find a job. if someone wanted to move on, i helped them move on, and i facilitated compensation agreements" and then he tells me some more stuff about his particular responsibilities and i ask him how much money he made, and i know it is tacky to ask but i think if i was reading this right now i would want to know if the guy in Das Racist was making a ton of money and quit his job to be in an indie rap group full time, that sacrifice would lend a bunch of credibility to his endeavor, and he laughs and looks at his friend and then he looks back at me and says he isn't going to tell me but it was a fair amount for someone in his line of work and then he laughs again but this time nervously. he makes himself another greyhound and pulls a pillow from under the covers in the middle of the bed and puts it on his lap and starts joking around with his friend

there is music playing out of computer speakers and MC Hammer by Rick Ross comes on and Himanshu stops in the middle of his sentence and raps along to Rick Ross for a second, "my gun dirty! my brick clean! i'm ridin dirty! my dick clean!" and then starts talking about working at the headhunting firm again

his firm was run by south asians, for the purpose of finding jobs for other south asians, and he says that the job was a sales job and there was a lot of hustling involved, and some of the people who worked there were pretty clean-cut and some were rough around the edges and they just wanted to hustle and he did the job for two years and really enjoyed it for the first year but then didn't enjoy it any more

i want to mention that almost everything Himanshu tells me is directly or indirectly about race or discrimination, like his friend's "lineage" or how the firm he worked for was run by south asians for the purpose of finding jobs for other south asians, how his tattoo is about recent waves of immigration and like twenty other things that you’ll notice. he is preoccupied with brown peoples' exclusion when he talks about race, and he is sort of on a constant quest to highlight discrimination and explain the world through the lens of being brown. i am thinking about the introduction to the song "Fashion Party" on his mixtape where a woman's voice says "how do you pronounce that, ra-CISTE? sorry, you're not on the list" and then you can hear another voice in the background saying "step aside please." Himanshu says that Das Racist is about pan-brownism

when we talked outside the reading, Himanshu told me that he manages 5 bands and has gotten 3 of them signed to record deals. he has not been able to get Das Racist signed. there is an underpinning of frustration and disappointment about that in Das Racist, but himanshu and victor sublimate their frustration about what Himanshu terms America's "matrix of discrimination" into jokes about it, and the jokes are so funny that listeners forget what is going on behind and within the jokes. on the new mixtape there is a line where that goes, “we’re not racist, we love white people: ford trucks, apple pies… bald eagles!”

he talks more about his old job and then he looks sad for a second and says that he was working for his firm in 2008 and he personally witnessed the collapses of Bear Sterns and Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch, he said people were getting laid off left and right. his friend tells me that he got laid off at that time too, he was the first person at his firm to get laid off. Himanshu says that it was his job to meet with people who got laid off and set them up with their next job, and i guess he was meeting with a lot of scared and frustrated and disappointed people

a few minutes later he looks wistful and sounds disheartened when he tells me that it is a really weird time to make music, by which he means that nobody has any money to pay musicians and it is so hard to make a living from being a musician. he tells me that soon every person in America is "gonna be on their west indian shit — multiple hustles" meaning everyone will have more than one job. i ask him if he makes a living off Das Racist and he says that he does but it is modest

we talk a little more about the pitchfork review and Himanshu notes that the review gave Victor, who goes by MC Kool A.D., credit for some of Himanshu's lines: "…Kool A.D. gives a tender, relatable treatise on the effects of soft substance abuse. Though he notes that fan interaction tends to be way friendlier when you rap about weed, he reminisces about a youth of ‘Yo! MTV Raps’ cards and Nautica sweatshirts and realizes ‘we used to play basketball, then we started drinking.’” i mention one of their lines about how people can't tell them apart, which itself points out a subtle racism in not being able to tell an indian dude apart from a cuban/italian dude, and Himanshu nods

we go up to the roof of the apartment building, which is slanted, and there is a table that is consequently also slanted and we sit down around the table and Himanshu's friend lights a cigarette. Himanshu says, "people think of us as a collective energy but nobody has written about how we are different," which is obviously frustrating for him, and he continues "but we're different in a lot of ways. like he's from the west coast and i'm from the east coast, his flow is laid back and mine is in your ear" and he finishes his drink

Geek Section / iphone 4 (smartphones in general)
« on: September 26, 2010, 10:39:10 PM »
is this shit worth buying in SA? whereas it comes with an uncapped wireless service in the US, i see you get 150 to 300mb per month here.

what 'smartphone' is a good deal, right now?

tired of living in 2005. i want to be cool like you lot.  :P

Hot Traxxx / tell me about new hip hop
« on: September 07, 2010, 06:55:19 PM »

anyone listening to any new ill shit, lately?

i've married into a rich white family and now i have ADSL and all sorts of other nice things.

the UGHH thread seems a little stale; don't lead me there.

just write your shit here.

peace and prosperity,

your brother in good taste and robust hip hop elitism.

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