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General Discussion / Skwatta...Source Awards??
« on: September 15, 2004, 06:19:00 PM »
Heard Skwatta waz nominated for the pending Hiphop Source awards...
Izn´t dat somethin???
:-o  8-)  :-]  :-]  :-o  :-P

So who´s rooting for them? I know dat I do... :-P

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / FYI!!!!!!
« on: August 25, 2004, 02:43:00 PM »
Jus thought U should know... :-)

On Thursday at Kippies, Newtown, 11 am thereís gonna be a gathering ....all hiphop heads, advocates and everyone who wants to partake in the hiphop revolution iz invited to the ďPre-briefingĒ of the hiphop global summit datís gonna take part within the UN (United Nation) soon

Itís basically gonna be a selection of few delegates who are going to represent  Mzansiís youth within the UN in the new program thatís gonna be implemented...itís mainly for developing countries...

So for more info...:-Z ...Kippies...


The Office / Rearrange!!!!!!!!!???
« on: August 20, 2004, 05:24:00 PM »
O.K let´s see if U really know yo shit try and rearrange this here and tell me who does dat...should be´s not too complicated...

caged  like a pacing  lion
prying with rage
all them with the iron to engage days trying  
a rock and a hard place stuck in between
I got down on my knees, looked into God´s face
is it? Its really not the same,
With low digits
ain´t paid me and y´all ain´t hold me down,  no visits

[I got down on my knees, looked into God´s face ]--this´ the only line i didn f***up...

this should be easy.... ;-)

General Discussion / Double The Impact???
« on: August 17, 2004, 09:51:00 PM »
Taking a look @ Duos of then and now...did they balance? who kept the lamp of burning? who dragged the otha down? Why the split, solo? Who´s iller

Prodigy & Havoc >>>P waz iller but now....I go for Hav

Pharoah & Prince >>

Vast Aire & Mega >>

Locally too...

Menzi & Sphiwe >>

How about Blaksmith & Prof >>

Remember Shimane & Salwyn >>

Anymore U can think of????

Rock & Ruck >>

Red & Meth >>

Daz & Kurupt >>



Hot Traxxx / Most Anticipated @ The Moment??
« on: August 06, 2004, 05:51:00 PM »
Locally speaking of course....Who do U think iz the most anticipated to drop, undaground or mainstream?

Well me personally I go for Selwyn as the most antipated (main stream), never dropped a solo effort though he´s been in the game fro a minute now... :-o

Hip Hop Events / Larneys, Rap Game?????
« on: July 30, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »
With no racial connotations attached to it..... How many white kids-with the exception of Waddy Jones & Gini-have infiltrated the rap game so far? bcoz in Jozi there´s multitudes of ´larney´ headz...or iz it jus the Eminem hype once it wears off all  of ´em will fade from the scene as well??

Or maybe the exploration this ´mainly-black´ culture it´s jus a curiocity driven yen, bcos there´s black kidz [Model Cs] as well dat are now into Rave/Rock sh*t....

What´s yo´ out look in the whole thing? :-o

Humour / Jokes / Mobb Deep....Nightmare! Interview...
« on: July 29, 2004, 10:12:00 PM »
Iíve always been down with Mobb Deep, ever since  heard ďshook onesĒ, so I ran across this interview I thought ďwhat the hell let me share it with U all...Itís about the forthcoming album ďAmerikaíz NightmareĒ and as well as a variety of other issues... I think theyíre really trying to go commercial...but hey...



Let´s start off by talking about the album, Amerikaíz Nightmare, dropping August 10th. I see the album was pushed up from the end of August, so were you guys really pressing Jive to push the release date up? Because a lot of people were wondering why the album kept getting delayed for months.

Prodigy: Nah, we wasn´t really pushing for anything. Actually to tell you the truth, we were just concentrating on getting the video straight and making sure they pick the right single.

Are you kind of surprised how well "Got It Twisted" is doing on stations like MTV, considering they don´t usually play grimy a** songs like that?
Prodigy: Well, I figured that MTV would accept it because that hit came from MTV. That original beat, that Thomas Dolby. MTV really made that shit popular. Its only right that they accept it. They gotta accept it, like god damn, Mobb Deep flipped this shit like that. They can´t hate on us.

What is going to be the second single off of the album?
Prodigy: This song called "Real Gangstaz" featuring Lil Jon.

For the video, is it going to be a continuation from "Got It Twisted"?
Prodigy: Yeah, exactly.

What is the concept for video going to be?
Prodigy: Basically, we spending all that money, having a good time. That´s what the whole concept of the video is about. Us having a good time, blowing free money.

Speaking of the Lil Jon track, did Jive kind of push you to do that track or was it something you guys wanted to do?
Prodigy: Nah, this is something we put together. We reached out to Lil Jon, and he was like "Hell yeah, I wanna do something with you". So we did it.

What about the track with Nelly, cause I know a lot of diehard Mobb fans were a little disappointed when they thought he was gonna be on the album?
Prodigy: Yeah, I donít know why they would be disappointed, Nelly is hot. He got some hot joints out there. And we wouldnít´ do no bullshit songs, know what I mean? Shit that we did with him was hot! Nobody hear it yet though, so nobody would even know how to feel about it until they heard it. Basically, I was in the studio and I bumped into Nelly. So I was playing him some joints and he was like "yo, Mobb Deep is one of my favorite groups", so he wanted to do a joint with us. So we just did a song. We did something for him on his album and he did something for us. Basically, it was just street love. Love for each others music and respect for each others shit. That was a choice that we made, we reached out to dirty and made that happen.

Where is that track gonna end up?
Prodigy: One of the songs is on Nelly´s album coming out soon. So you will hear that first.

Havoc: And it has Ashanti on it too.

What happened to that track you did with R.Kelly. That song is crazy, I think that could have been a big hit for you guys.
Prodigy: The R.Kelly joint, it never came out. You probably heard something else.
Yeah, I heard that on the Clue.
Prodigy: Yeah, that was a song we just looped up from R.Kelly´s album and put some verses on it. But we got a different song with R.Kelly, but It just didn´t make the cut. That shit came out gangsta and everything, but we just ain´t put it on the album because everything don´t make it all the time.

Havoc, a lot of people were surprised when they found out you produced Jadakiss´ "Why". That beat is really different than what people have come to expect, so how did that go down? Did you reach out to Kiss like "Yo, I got something different for you", or did Kiss come to you?
Havoc: That is something I came to him with. I got a lot of tracks like that, but they just never get out. When it comes to producing, my skills are various, I just donít make dark tracks all the time. I got a lot of tracks like that, and you gonna hear them out there in the future definitely.

Havoc, you also did a track on Bank´s album, so who else have you been working with lately?
Havoc: Yeah, I´m working on a couple of tracks right now for a couple of other big artists. But I´m not going to name them yet, until everything really goes through. Cause you know how the game is, anything can fall through at any time. And I donít want to be looking stupid, you know what I´m saying, being like "yo, I thought you was on the album". But there is definitely a couple of tracks lined up.

In the most recent Murda Dog magazine, Saigon did an interview and he said some things about you that go something like this, "I used to idolize Mobb Deep growing up as a kid, but then I met them, and they were pussies". So what is your reaction to that?
Havoc: Ay yo, check this out. We don´t even acknowledge people that wanna talk like that. He don´t know us and when you hear people talking like that, they are just looking for attention. You feel what I´m saying? So the bottom line is, we don´t acknowledge that. We don´t do it through interviews, we acknowledge it on the streets.

So no diss records or anything like that?
Prodigy: Hell no!
Havoc: We don´t go back at nobody.

Not to keep on the beef tip, but there is also this situation with Cormega I wanna speak about. Basically, on his website he wrote some things about you P. He said that there is no beef between y´all but he did say this. "I didn´t diss Prodigy, but I did tell him to watch his mouth cause he be saying slick shit in his rhymes about people, and me and my people was under the impression that he was talking about my friend Sherm". Then he went onto say other stuff and basically said "Havoc is cool, so donít´ think I got beef with Mobb Deep cause I don´t, P should just keep his mouth under control". So P, what is your reaction to that?
Prodigy: Aight.

Do you want to know what else he said?
Prodigy: Nah, my thoughts is, aight.

What happened between you and Bars & Hooks? Why the fallout?
Prodigy: They just went their separate ways. They wanted to do their own thing.

Why did they want to leave? Was their any conflict between you guys?
Prodigy: Nah, they just thought things their way and wanted to do different things.

Havoc, I know you stated in songs that you had a little problem with drinking. So how are you doing with that?
Havoc: I mean, everything is under control. That was four years ago, and I´m good now.

Are you still drinking a little, or are you completely done?
Havoc: Nah, I´m completely dry.

P, what about you? Have you quit drinking and smoking, or is it still something you do?
Prodigy: Yeah, that´s still something I´m doing.

Has that had a big effect on you and your battle with sickle cell?
Prodigy: Yup.

You guys are always portrayed as real serious, or dark. But what brings a smile to your face?
Prodigy: Good music from Mobb Deep. (laughter)
Havoc: When people acknowledge that we got that good music. When the fans come up to me and be like "yo, you n*ggas got that shit". That always makes me feel good and makes me smile.

People are always interested in hearing how the artists themselves rank their albums. So on a scale of 1 to 5, how would you rank your albums? Starting with Juvenile Hell.
Prodigy: I would say a 3.

What about The Infamous?
Prodigy: 5

Hell On Earth?
Prodigy: 5. Yeah, everything after that is beyond a 5. 5 is too low.

How would you compare Amerikas Nightmare to your other albums then?
Prodigy: It´s definitely up there, right up there with the hottest joints.

I ask this question to every QB artist I interview. So why does Queens Bridge have no unity?
Havoc: Cause Q.B. is like a whole borough in itself. Each block is like a whole borough. And everybody holds down their own block. So its pretty much like that.

Do you ever think everyone from Q.B. will reunite again?
Havoc: No doubt, hopefully in the future ya know.

If you could fight one celebrity who would it be?
Havoc: One celebrity? Hmmm, yo P who would you fight?

Prodigy: I would whoop Bill Gates a**! I´ll beat some money out that n*ggas a**!

Are you guys going to be voting in this November´s Presidential Election?
Havoc: Still gotta register.

What do you think about the current state of our country?
Prodigy: Shit is real f***ed up over here!

Did you see Fahrenheit 9/11?
Prodigy: We seen all them shits.
What did you think about it?
Prodigy: It´s just scratching the surface.

What´s next for Mobb Deep and Infamous Records?
Prodigy: Just getting this Mobb Deep album out, thatís what we are basically concentrating on. We not even thinking about our next step, until we take this first giant step with this album.

What about Big Noyd and Littles? Are they gonna be dropping albums on Infamous Records?
Prodigy: Yeah, we got a whole roster full. But we ain´t even gonna be telling people who´s next or what´s next, or how its going to be, until after this shit comes out and we solidify everything.

You guys going to be appearing on any up and coming albums?
Prodigy: You will probably hear us on a few soundtracks for a few movies. As far as anybody´s albums, na we ain´t do anything like that yet. The only thing is our team, like The Alchemist. He got an album coming out in September that we on.

Any last words?
Prodigy: Amerika´z Nightmare, thatís what its about. Infamous Records!

Hot Traxxx / ???!!!!????
« on: July 27, 2004, 09:40:00 PM »
I´m know this haz been debated over & over again but still...
What makes a ´good emcee/rapper´?
Iz  it the lyricz , the flow, the voice, the realness, the style or even the face for dat matter or he jus have to have all of the elements wrapped up in one dat will give us the impeccability we´re looking for?

Or maybe all this sh*t is matterless all dat´s needed it´s beautiful beats an´ record sales will speak for themselves?

What´s yo point of view?


:-o FIYASKO! :-o  

Producers - Discussion / Slaghuis!??
« on: July 26, 2004, 10:17:00 PM »
Waz @ the Slaghuis, D.K gister?
Dome waz launching hiz Mix-Tape/Comp Domestic Violins. He mustíve pushed a coupla units as well [cos I also bought one! & itís not bcos I waz too drunk from Amstel].
Reasonably priced @ 50 buckz a copy...well worth it... From what I heard itís supposed to be a double album, 14 trax dat Uíll be able to bump on your system and the second album can only get access to  it if Uíre on MP3...
Well I only listened to the eazly accessible 14 trax...but from what I heard itís all good, banging at times, nice beatz, nice complementation from some emcees..."string Ďem along" being one of the highlights... On my finger scale I could give it a 6 out of 10...But I gotta say I enjoyed live performances than I did the disc alone in my room...I liked Domeís live performance it waz nice
...though personally I thought he
came off as a donít-hate-me-coz-Iím-beautiful typa cat...
but enuff props to him, he worked hard putting the album together...

...I will give it a meticulous review soon...

Waz ani1 there?


Hip Hop Events / Metro Unsigned Undaground Top10!
« on: July 14, 2004, 04:19:00 PM »
I heard a lot of cats dat are mad nice, but the problem iz
when U need their shit U canít get it anywhere...
I heard that the Domestic Violence Comp U get it on street
corners for 40 Bucks, (where exactly?).... And thereís this particular track [4got the artist!] dat I liked on Saturday think it waz ďSunday morning!Ē
what a beautiful track, but still... who should I talk to, to get it??
Maybe with this Congress weíre trying to establish weíll take a closer look on these typa things... and try to create a platform were material would be easily accessible...

So any suggestions on where to go, who to call?

:-o FT! :-o

Hip Hop Events / VAAL, V-SIDE WHAT´S UP?
« on: July 12, 2004, 04:10:00 PM »
Weíre verging at times were stakes are getting higher by
the day [more like by a minute], hiphop-wise
But then itís been a while since I heard anything from the
Vaal, V-Side or V-sector.
O.K thereís Optical Ill and Kaydo and them but, it seems,
their representation iz inept...

We know dat the V-Side haz a wealth of hiphop, a sea of emcees and rappers but why arenít they taking the platform and rep where they from?
And shine as the J-Sec...

Or maybe Iím just in the dark with the
happenings in the ďVĒ so enlighten me (us!)
Whatís up @ the Vaal?

Whoís hot at the moment? Crewz/ Solos
Any-albums in the pipeline?
Spots to chill? [I only know of the Roof-Top]
And more.............

Holla back

:-o FIYASKO!  :-o

General Discussion / THE FATE OF MZANSI HIPHOP!!???
« on: June 25, 2004, 09:20:00 PM »
I came across this here while on dat AfricanHiphop site...
This is what I think S.A´s hiphop industry iz headed for, if we keep going the way dat we are...
Jus thought I´d share it with U, give U some thing to think about, it grabbed my attention... it´s pretty long though... U got time?? U better!

"This is by a rapper that was signed to one of these big labels ( yeah I know...) ..i wont say who but this was also extracted from a dvd he made so read this and understand the politics and why rap is slowly dying away

This Is My Official Fu-k The Industry ........

I´ve been signed for about 4 months now to a major label and now I wish I never started rapping, producing, or even getting into the music business, I´m going to college. You know why underground rappers never shine?? You wanna know why it´s so hard to get a deal?? You wanna know why some artists can write 6-7 albums while some cats struggle to write one?? You wanna know why It´s more A&R´s that exists on labels than it is actual artists on the label?? You wanna know why Interscope is suppressing the whole Eminem thing??

Here Goes.......

Most cats believe they can get a deal by spittin´ some sick lyrics or making some good songs, wrong. You know what labels do?? A&R´s don´t look for artists, not at all, Labels sign around 25 artists per decade and then freeze signings. A&R´s don´t go look for the next big artists, they look for hit songs and writing pools and people who can sing backup vocals. A&R´s aren´t worried about finding artists with star quality that have interesting backgrounds, oh no, not at all.

Here´s how they do rappers.........Raping-U-Records artists are starting to get old and played out so they send an A&R out to find a punka** rapper who lives in a respectable area. Next, they make sure the artist is marketable, then they´ll sign the artist. Now Rapper A has a record deal with no previous history of rapping, next the label will setup a front to make it look like they discovered the artist (might sign a kid first, then set it up to make it look like this kid was rapping in front of a crowd at a gas station where a highly known A&R just happened to be getting gas from).

Next, they´ll sit down with the artist and have this reality talk to them, explaining to them that the industry is a business and none of this is real. Now, they´ll overexagerate their background and even lie about their age and where they grew up, they´ll push a suburban to a harder area then they´re really from. They find a an angle (pop´s died, parents divorced, got shot, sold drugs, friend died) and push that angle to build the artist sentimental respect (who likes a punk who lived a perfect life??). They´ll use that angle to build a story around them and how that event or events affected them.

Now, they hit the studio, right?? Wrong!! Now here is what real A&R´s are meant for. They´ll send out their A&R´s and stupid cats like me will kill to get the demo in their hands, once these A&R´s have a good number of SOLICITED demo´s they´ll tell Rappers B, C and D to send the label some material. Rappers B, C and D think they might get a deal, so they get their demo package together with Bio, Pic´s, Press Kit and the actual demo. They probably tellin´ their guys that they finna get signed and ish. Wrong........

Now A&R B is at the label listening to the demos of Rapper B, C and D. A&R B doesn´t care for anything but the songs. A&R B is really feeling Rapper B and D´s demo´s (capable hit songs) but not Rapper C. So that´s when Rapper C gets the rejection letter. Now the A&R is interested in Rapper B & D´s material, so they´ll write them and ask them to send more material, now B & D really think they´re gonna get signed.

A&R B listens again and feels as if Rapper D isn´t as good as he thought he was but still feels Rapper B. Now he sends a rejection letter to Rapper D. Now the contact is made with Rapper B and a meeting is set up. Sounds lovely right?? Keep Reading....A&R B and Rapper B and a few exec´s have a meeting and now Rapper B is hit with REALITY. A&R B explains the real music business and gives Rapper B a choice, either walk out that door and be forever blackballed or the alternative.

You remember Rapper A, right?? Rapper B has been hit with the reality that he will never be a star. Rapper B just sent in about 10 songs to A&R B which were purchased and now will be on Rapper A´s album. Rapper B is now merely part of a writing pool, he will continue to make songs under the supervision of an A&R, only not for himself, for everyone else. Now Rapper B sends about 10-20 songs to Rapin-U-Records every 3 months and now Rapper A, Rapper X, Rapper J and Singer T go through Rapper B´s material as well as the other hundred´s of Rappers and Singers that are merely writing pools material and pick which song they want on their album.

Now here is where the process takes place, Rapper A chooses 3 songs from Rapper B, 4 songs from Rapper Y and 2 songs from Singer U to make an album. Rapper A might want to do his own song so the label gives Rapper A 2 slots to do his own songs. When the album is finished, starving artists in writing pools are paid off and SILENCED. Now you can read the credits and see Rapper A´s name all over, but it´s to fool you, the sheep, the cats who buy the albums and the stupid chickenheads that believe anything in writing.

Rapper A has candy stories and rumors started by people at the label that grow and make the Rapper more respectable, more harder and more controversial to keep the life span of Rapper A alive. Guess what?? If an A&R finds someone else who´s making better songs than Rapper B, they cut him off and blackball him to keep him silenced, it´s that simple, fuk what you heard and believe. Beef?? Real or fake?? Ima tell you this, more beef´s in the past and present then you brainwashed muthafukaz will ever believe are fake, some are real but even then you´ll believe what you want. Once Rapper A falls off (not lyrically, not songwise) marketwise, they drop them and a new era of MUSIC INDUSTRY BULLSH*T arises.

And that´s just the rappers, I´m not even going to get into producing, all Ima say is that most of your respectable producers are merely NAMES, you believe PRODUCER B is ths ish?? PRODUCER B can produce, but how do you think they can produce so many hot songs at one time?? They don´t, a label will send out A&R´s to find clones (people who´ve been influenced and therefore have the same sound) of the producer and the same process as with Rapper´s A, B, C and D will spark up with producers too. THINK ABOUT IT........

Why do think it took Twista and Memphis Bleek so long to come out again, huh?? Cuz they wanted to write their own albums and didn´t want to fall victim, too bad that´s not for most of the ROC. Why do you think Ali Vegas will probably never drop and even when he drops, watch what happens......Why do you think 50 Cent couldn´t get a deal after Trackmasters?? How come the Bravehearts took so long?? And then didn´t even get pushed, promoted or even have money put behind them?? Hey Chicago, where is 3Piece?? Why do you think both MTV MC Battles promised Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella Contracts but Reignman´s on his own label and Wreckognize aint on the Roc?? How come Shawnna got shelved?? Why did Universal lie about Nelly´s age?? Why did it take Jin some 2 and a half years to come out with a single?? Where the hell is Postaboy?? What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars?? Cats know the truth and don´t like it, it´s that simple.......

How would you like it if you´ve been rapping since you were 7, been hustlin demos, doing meaningless talent showcases and then you finally get a deal at age 20 and now you´ve become Rapper B?? The industry messes people up for real and half these cats who see the Bling Bling and girls think that´s all their is, it´s like finding out God doesn´t really exists and now I´ve become Rapper B.

Sh*t like this gets cats killed for real, the industry is shady and what you´ve seen on TV, them DVD´s, in interviews, VH1, MTV, whatever is nothing but the "GHOST INDUSTRY" that you´ve been led to believe is how it is and none of you have any idea, I hate the music industry, I hate the entertainment business, I´m going to college, getting my degree and am leaving this is behind me, FU*K COLUMBIA RECORDS and most of all, ya´ll can SU*K my D*CK. To the industry heads on here, F*CK U, go ahead, yeah, I´ve broken the silence, only the underground is real, FU*K the industry.......

I´m uppin this til everyone reads it, I thought I was about live out my dream and now I´ve been exposed to the nightmare that is the industry. I was brainwashed, now I´m not, everything I´ve said in this post is the truth, anything you´ve heard or been led to believe is bull, this post applies to all them STUDIO wankstaz.......

Cat´s I know got ghostwriters and songs come from writing pools.........Fu*k what you believe........

Joe Budden
Kanye West
Trick Daddy
Young Gunz
Murphy Lee

And about a bunch of cats I´m too pissed to mention right now......I´m uppin this til the world blows up, think about this ish seriously and a lot of ish will start to make more sense......

-Welcome To The Real Music Industry-"


What do U think???????????

« on: June 25, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »
I´ve been trying to draw a distinction between the two, especially from Mzansi  hiphop´s perception, what really makes an undaground emcee and/or  a cormmercial emcee...
Undaground does it really mean being totally camouflaged from the ma** or what, what happens if U suddenly U get cash-boost and U haví all the recourses U need to go big and sell, does it mean U would be selling out... to go commercial.

Iz it all just a state of mind, if U´re keeping it  and getting all the luv
... and yes the lute... it´s cool as long as

Iz Skwatta cormmercial coz they blew up and they got a vid or two?
Iz...let´s say... BMP undaground coz only hiphop-correalted people know about ´em?

I need to hear yo´ opinions on dat, especially around IMAGE, LYRICAL-CONTENT, HANGOUTSPOTS,THE ATTITUDE AND...yes... THE LANGUAGE(Vernac or english)...

And point out those U think have sold out (except Amo) & those who are about to... and name those who have kept sh*t real ever since...

Holla back >> What hav U got to say?


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