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Media / Who killed this track????
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:49:21 AM »
DAMN!!!!! All them NY Catz went hard lyrically Joe budden was ok too. on this one.Beat is crazy!!! Who killed fellas? Ransom starts and closed by Fab.
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General Discussion / Give waiters/waitresses a break
« on: September 16, 2009, 02:51:09 PM »
Why are some people so fussy and demanding to Waiters/waitresses in general? And If things dont go their way they start throwing tantrums,pulling the race card or " I Demand to see the Manager. I find this particular behaviour rife among our sisters. Dont get me wrong theres nothing wrong with fighting for yo expectations but it must be done with outmost modesty. I once disciplined this broad i ate out with,she was literally throwing tantrums @ the waitress diva style,mind me this lady is an honours graduate,nc nc nc Damn it. My question is what causes that kind of behaviour? Is it an inferior complex or just a nigger moment?
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General Discussion / Drake went deep
« on: September 07, 2009, 04:39:01 PM »
Never thought the dude was on that conscious tip was listenin to the "FEAR" TRACK, Nice track overall ".... I NEVER CRIED WHEN PAC DIED/ BUT I PROBABLY WILL WHEN HOV DOES/ AND IF MY TEARS HOLD VALUE/ THEN I WILL DROP ONE FOR EVERY SINGLE THING HE SHOWED US/
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Politics / Zuma's 100 days in office.
« on: September 01, 2009, 07:23:22 AM »
What do you think fellas? I applied for a new pa**port and new ID on the 10th August and yersteday i received an sms saying My pa**port and ID is ready. I really think Home Affairs have stepped up their service. I say Well done!!
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Movie Talk / Girlz of the VUZU Mansion
« on: August 31, 2009, 08:50:50 PM »
Funny and freaky show.I swear those broadz must have been picked from a place called Point here in Durban lol or Hillbrow in Jhb.Guys what do you think of the show.
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Politics / De Clerk:Affirmative Action Discriminates
« on: August 27, 2009, 09:56:55 AM »
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/mw/view/mw...5720&sn=Detail
Its a long read.Only copy and pasted some of the paragrapghs
"There are a number of problems with affirmative action, as we know it:
Firstly, most affirmative action and BEE measures affect only the top 15 per cent of the income pyramid and have little or no impact on the condition of the bottom 85 per cent of our society. It is like playing musical chairs in an airliner - while the vast majority of the population watches helplessly from the ground. The manner in which affirmative action has been applied means that a small minority of the black population has benefited quite significantly, while the great majority has been left behind. This has substantially increased inequality within the black section of our population.
Secondly, in implementing affirmative action those involved have too often overlooked the requirement that beneficiaries should be suitably qualified. The Fair Employment Act of 1998 states that
"Affirmative action measures are measures designed to ensure that suitably qualified people from designated groups have equal employment opportunities and are equitably represented in all occupational categories and levels in the workforce of a designated employer.
No thinking person can reasonably quarrel with this formulation.
The problem is that there are at the moment simply not enough suitably qualified black South Africans to fill their proportional share of all the highly skilled technical and managerial posts in the private and public sectors.
Despite progress, black South Africans in 2009 still accounted for only 17% of the candidates who pa**ed the chartered accountants final exam. In 2008 only 23% of the engineers registered with the Engineering Council of SA were black.
The reality is that the wholesale appointment of people who are not suitably qualified has been a major factor in dysfunctional service delivery by the state - particularly at the municipal level. Unbalanced affirmative action has undermined the right of millions of ordinary South Africans to equal enjoyment of many of the basic rights in the constitution - including most notably
the right to life and security;
the right to health care, food, water and social security; and
the right to education.
By so-doing unbalanced affirmative action has actually undermined the right to equality.
Another problem is that the guiding principle behind the implementation of affirmative action has too often been the ideology of demographic representivity. The Constitution requires demographic representivity only in the public service and the judiciary. It stipulates that "public administration should be broadly representative of the South African people" - but it goes on to require that employment and personnel management practices should also be based "on ability, objectivity and fairness" and on "good human resource management and career-development practices."
In practice, the application of representivity in public administration has often ignored the countervailing requirements for ability, objectivity, fairness and good human resource management. The precipitate departure of 120 000 trained and experienced whites from the civil service has undoubtedly been a major element in the marked deterioration in the provision of public services, especially at the municipal level.
Because of its ideological commitment to demographic representivity the government would rather leave posts vacant than fill them with qualified whites. Its alleged refusal to appoint qualified whites to key vacant posts in the police's forensics units have been a major factor in the poor performance of those units - to the detriment of South Africa's ability to fight crime.
The Constitution does not require the application of demographic representivity in the private sector and in civil society - provided that nobody discriminates unfairly against anyone else on any of a number of grounds, including race, gender, religion or language. In particular, demographic representivity cannot and should not be applied in organisations that have a cultural or religious nature.
It makes no sense to require that 80% the staff of Afrikaans newspapers should be non-Afrikaans-speaking black South Africans.
How can an organisation like the Afrikaans Christelike Vroue Vereniging - be representative of the demography of the country as a whole? Nevertheless, the ACVV does excellent work - much of it to the benefit of disadvantaged black communities.
Finally, the manner in which affirmative action is being applied too often constitutes unfair discrimination - and therefore adds to the sum total of inequality in society.
The simple reality is that income and education levels in South Africa no longer coincide exactly with race - particularly in the top 15% -20% of income earners. For example, there are almost two million black, coloured and Indian South Africans who have higher education qualifications than almost three million whites. Another five million have the same education qualifications as these whites. There are more than 2 million black, coloured and Indian South Africans who earn more than 1.6 million whites.
It is accordingly impossible to implement the remedial measures envisaged in Section 9.2 without taking into account the actual circumstances of the individuals involved - particularly when it comes to affirmative action appointments or promotions. Clearly, if a black, coloured or Indian candidate from the privileged education and income group is "advanced" because of his or her race over a white South African from a less privileged education and income group, the result will not "promote the achievement of equality" but will increase inequality in society. It is difficult to see how such discrimination could possibly be regarded as "fair" in terms of Section 9(5) of the Constitution and would accordingly be in contravention of the prohibition against unfair discrimination.
Balanced affirmative action involving the appointment of suitably qualified people from disadvantaged groups can and must play a constructive role in promoting equality - particularly in addressing residual conscious and unconscious discrimination. However, experience has shown that affirmative has not been effective in promoting the kind of equality required by the Constitution.
If the state genuinely wishes to promote equality - as envisaged in Section 9 (2) - it should concentrate on measures that will provide all our citizens with much greater access to ‘the full enjoyment of all rights and freedoms' - and in particular to the right to decent basic education, security, housing and health services.
The roots of inequality lie in poor education, poor services and unacceptably high unemployment.
We shall not be able to advance the achievement of equality until we can provide all South Africans with decent education.
Of the 1.67 million children who entered the school system in 1995 only 34% made it to matric in 2007.
Of these 1.67 million children only 22% pa**ed matric and only 5.2% did so with the exemption required for university.
Finally, only 1.5% pa**ed maths at the higher grade - most of whom were Whites and Asians.
How - under these circumstances - are we supposed to promote equality and produce the black candidates that we need to take up leadership positions throughout society and the economy?
How will we be able to ensure real equality before the law and equal protection and benefit of the law in circumstances where a quarter of a million people have been murdered since 1994 and where the great majority of the population simply does not have access to the courts?
Real equality can best be promoted by the provision of decent social, municipal and medical services. Government has made progress in this regard by building more than 3 million houses since 1994. More than 13 million South Africans now receive children's and old-age allowances. However, such transfers do not promote equality - they simply help to provide minimal subsistence for those involved.
Finally, the right to equality of almost a third of our population is fatally undermined by the fact that they are unemployed. The consequences of unemployment are devastating for the people concerned and for our whole society. Unemployment is at the root of the deep poverty in which half of our population subsists; it is inevitably interwoven with unacceptable crime levels; and it is one of the main causes of the persistent inequality which negates one of the foundational values of our Constitution.
The measures on which the state should concentrate in its efforts to promote equality in terms of Section 9 (2) of the Constitution should not primarily centre on the present type of affirmative action and BEE - although these have a role to play. They should instead be focussed on uplifting the 50% of our population that is most disadvantaged through the provision of decent and effective education; through the delivery of effective health, municipal and social services - and above all through the creation of jobs.
We should set a national goal to substantially decrease our GINI coefficient - and the inequality in our society - by 2020."
Its a long read.Only copy and pasted some of the paragrapghs
"There are a number of problems with affirmative action, as we know it:
Firstly, most affirmative action and BEE measures affect only the top 15 per cent of the income pyramid and have little or no impact on the condition of the bottom 85 per cent of our society. It is like playing musical chairs in an airliner - while the vast majority of the population watches helplessly from the ground. The manner in which affirmative action has been applied means that a small minority of the black population has benefited quite significantly, while the great majority has been left behind. This has substantially increased inequality within the black section of our population.
Secondly, in implementing affirmative action those involved have too often overlooked the requirement that beneficiaries should be suitably qualified. The Fair Employment Act of 1998 states that
"Affirmative action measures are measures designed to ensure that suitably qualified people from designated groups have equal employment opportunities and are equitably represented in all occupational categories and levels in the workforce of a designated employer.
No thinking person can reasonably quarrel with this formulation.
The problem is that there are at the moment simply not enough suitably qualified black South Africans to fill their proportional share of all the highly skilled technical and managerial posts in the private and public sectors.
Despite progress, black South Africans in 2009 still accounted for only 17% of the candidates who pa**ed the chartered accountants final exam. In 2008 only 23% of the engineers registered with the Engineering Council of SA were black.
The reality is that the wholesale appointment of people who are not suitably qualified has been a major factor in dysfunctional service delivery by the state - particularly at the municipal level. Unbalanced affirmative action has undermined the right of millions of ordinary South Africans to equal enjoyment of many of the basic rights in the constitution - including most notably
the right to life and security;
the right to health care, food, water and social security; and
the right to education.
By so-doing unbalanced affirmative action has actually undermined the right to equality.
Another problem is that the guiding principle behind the implementation of affirmative action has too often been the ideology of demographic representivity. The Constitution requires demographic representivity only in the public service and the judiciary. It stipulates that "public administration should be broadly representative of the South African people" - but it goes on to require that employment and personnel management practices should also be based "on ability, objectivity and fairness" and on "good human resource management and career-development practices."
In practice, the application of representivity in public administration has often ignored the countervailing requirements for ability, objectivity, fairness and good human resource management. The precipitate departure of 120 000 trained and experienced whites from the civil service has undoubtedly been a major element in the marked deterioration in the provision of public services, especially at the municipal level.
Because of its ideological commitment to demographic representivity the government would rather leave posts vacant than fill them with qualified whites. Its alleged refusal to appoint qualified whites to key vacant posts in the police's forensics units have been a major factor in the poor performance of those units - to the detriment of South Africa's ability to fight crime.
The Constitution does not require the application of demographic representivity in the private sector and in civil society - provided that nobody discriminates unfairly against anyone else on any of a number of grounds, including race, gender, religion or language. In particular, demographic representivity cannot and should not be applied in organisations that have a cultural or religious nature.
It makes no sense to require that 80% the staff of Afrikaans newspapers should be non-Afrikaans-speaking black South Africans.
How can an organisation like the Afrikaans Christelike Vroue Vereniging - be representative of the demography of the country as a whole? Nevertheless, the ACVV does excellent work - much of it to the benefit of disadvantaged black communities.
Finally, the manner in which affirmative action is being applied too often constitutes unfair discrimination - and therefore adds to the sum total of inequality in society.
The simple reality is that income and education levels in South Africa no longer coincide exactly with race - particularly in the top 15% -20% of income earners. For example, there are almost two million black, coloured and Indian South Africans who have higher education qualifications than almost three million whites. Another five million have the same education qualifications as these whites. There are more than 2 million black, coloured and Indian South Africans who earn more than 1.6 million whites.
It is accordingly impossible to implement the remedial measures envisaged in Section 9.2 without taking into account the actual circumstances of the individuals involved - particularly when it comes to affirmative action appointments or promotions. Clearly, if a black, coloured or Indian candidate from the privileged education and income group is "advanced" because of his or her race over a white South African from a less privileged education and income group, the result will not "promote the achievement of equality" but will increase inequality in society. It is difficult to see how such discrimination could possibly be regarded as "fair" in terms of Section 9(5) of the Constitution and would accordingly be in contravention of the prohibition against unfair discrimination.
Balanced affirmative action involving the appointment of suitably qualified people from disadvantaged groups can and must play a constructive role in promoting equality - particularly in addressing residual conscious and unconscious discrimination. However, experience has shown that affirmative has not been effective in promoting the kind of equality required by the Constitution.
If the state genuinely wishes to promote equality - as envisaged in Section 9 (2) - it should concentrate on measures that will provide all our citizens with much greater access to ‘the full enjoyment of all rights and freedoms' - and in particular to the right to decent basic education, security, housing and health services.
The roots of inequality lie in poor education, poor services and unacceptably high unemployment.
We shall not be able to advance the achievement of equality until we can provide all South Africans with decent education.
Of the 1.67 million children who entered the school system in 1995 only 34% made it to matric in 2007.
Of these 1.67 million children only 22% pa**ed matric and only 5.2% did so with the exemption required for university.
Finally, only 1.5% pa**ed maths at the higher grade - most of whom were Whites and Asians.
How - under these circumstances - are we supposed to promote equality and produce the black candidates that we need to take up leadership positions throughout society and the economy?
How will we be able to ensure real equality before the law and equal protection and benefit of the law in circumstances where a quarter of a million people have been murdered since 1994 and where the great majority of the population simply does not have access to the courts?
Real equality can best be promoted by the provision of decent social, municipal and medical services. Government has made progress in this regard by building more than 3 million houses since 1994. More than 13 million South Africans now receive children's and old-age allowances. However, such transfers do not promote equality - they simply help to provide minimal subsistence for those involved.
Finally, the right to equality of almost a third of our population is fatally undermined by the fact that they are unemployed. The consequences of unemployment are devastating for the people concerned and for our whole society. Unemployment is at the root of the deep poverty in which half of our population subsists; it is inevitably interwoven with unacceptable crime levels; and it is one of the main causes of the persistent inequality which negates one of the foundational values of our Constitution.
The measures on which the state should concentrate in its efforts to promote equality in terms of Section 9 (2) of the Constitution should not primarily centre on the present type of affirmative action and BEE - although these have a role to play. They should instead be focussed on uplifting the 50% of our population that is most disadvantaged through the provision of decent and effective education; through the delivery of effective health, municipal and social services - and above all through the creation of jobs.
We should set a national goal to substantially decrease our GINI coefficient - and the inequality in our society - by 2020."
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General Discussion / BROADS SMH
« on: August 26, 2009, 01:07:42 PM »
Have you ever come across a sexy broad out there,on the dancefloor she dancing on some exotic dances,flexible like that to such an extent she makes a nigga intimidated damn! Come in the Bedroom she no longer do those moves she just lies there like a dead wood. Damn!
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Hot Traxxx / Young Buck is still MAD as hell!!!!
« on: August 25, 2009, 06:06:39 PM »
Dope Beat.
Young Buck-They Pulling me back
http://xclusivetrax.com/music/Young-Buck-Pulling-Me-Back/13001-5.html
Young Buck-They Pulling me back
http://xclusivetrax.com/music/Young-Buck-Pulling-Me-Back/13001-5.html
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Sports Arena / Chiefs Vs Ajax Game
« on: August 24, 2009, 01:14:04 PM »
What a game!!!!!! God damn it!!!!! I felt like i was watching an English Premiership game.Chiefs really played well.only thing that let them down was their Goalkeeeper poor guy,he was so shook,hes still learning though.Chiefs are a lot more organized this season than they were last season. There are issues at the back and Masango did not cover himself in glory but this team is more competitive.but I know the loss hurts and this will go far in teaching those who make fun of us that it is folly to laugh at those who have fallen.
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General Discussion / Hell No!! Nas should stand his Ground!!
« on: August 22, 2009, 01:12:04 PM »
Laura Wa**er - Kelis’ divorce lawyer has submitted both Nas and Kelis’ monthly earnings to the court today to secure child support and spousal support from the rapper. According to TMZ.com this is what was submitted:
– Nas pulls in $244,826 a month
– Kelis rakes in a relatively paltry $13,744 a month
– Kelis should get child support totaling $17,225 a month
– Kelis should get spousal support totaling $72,728
– Nas should pay retro child support totaling $29,522
– Nas should pay retro spousal support totaling $281,571
– Nas pulls in $244,826 a month
– Kelis rakes in a relatively paltry $13,744 a month
– Kelis should get child support totaling $17,225 a month
– Kelis should get spousal support totaling $72,728
– Nas should pay retro child support totaling $29,522
– Nas should pay retro spousal support totaling $281,571
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General Discussion / New York Rap scene
« on: August 22, 2009, 10:01:35 AM »
This thread was inspired after i finished bumpin Uncle Murda's D.O.A Freestyle(Yeah hes rite
;Dah yah yah yah they need to smack niggaz that do STANKY LEG Dance) Got time on my hands this saturday.
I released the rap scene in NY Is deteriorating and no longer the same.Dude keeps it thorough in his music. Back to my point.
I don’t know if I’ve just become hard to impress or do NY spitters need to step their rap game up? I have no clue how some of these guys even get mentioned. Dudes like Joel Ortiz? Saigon? Tru Life? J.R. Writer? Jae Hood? Are you kidding me? These guys have maybe one thing going for them. Where is the total package? Right when Big Pun came out, I knew he was a star. Right when DMX came out, I knew he was star. Same with Fiddy before he got shot. Even Nore. None of these new guys have that magical “it” quality (If you think you know someone who does, please hit me up). My point is what the hell happened to the breeding ground?
New York rappers inspired each other and the culture thrived producing superstars. Now rappers see Southern rappers get away with certain things and think “Hey I don’t have to think so hard about my lyrics I can just write the first thing that comes to mind and I’ll be successful too”. What this has done is kill New York’s style of rap, I call “witty thug rap”. It’s intelligent, fun and hard. No rapper in NY is doing this style anymore.NY’s problem is that the big labels dont see artists like Papoose and Saigon as big money makers. They’d rather take their chances with a Southern artist that has a song blowing up down there
Let me talk about fiddy,carrying on from where Hov left off, Fifty went on a rampage breaking down every single New York legend. We all know how Fifty is and his marketing strategies are no longer as effective, but by breaking down everyone from Wu-Tang to Jadakiss to Fat Joe, he made the fans take sides as if it were a war. We all know how lame it is to break others down to build yourself up, but to do this the staple artist of our rap scene only further divided the fans and give New York rap a “crab in the bucket” mentality amongst the up and coming rappers. Case in point, how many rappers had beef during this period? Everyone.
Rappers are claiming to be bringing NY and Boom Bap back but it’s being forced and people can see through that. It should be a natural return to its roots and the sooner that happens the better.
Anyway heres why The South is killin NY right now.
the South is having a damn good time. It’s considered taboo for Southern rappers to diss each other and when they do they usually just fist fight and make up like brothers -far cry from the ultra gun toting NY rappers of the past. Radio hosts in the South never hate on artists or other radio stations. It’s pretty much all love. In short, southern music is fun and easy to digest and has been further elevated by the increase in interest in club and car culture across the country.
1) Southern rappers know how to network together
2) Southern rappers dont beef as much as NY rappers
3) They dont rap about guns and murder as much as NY rappers. So they get more radio air play, make more money on ring tones and get more track plays in the club.
4) Most mainstream rappers down south are very commercial and materialistic so they generate more business for jewelry, clothing, shoe, and car companys.
5) Southern record lables give more down south rappers a chance to shine than NY labels do for their artists.
What do you think my fellow Agians!!!!!!
;Dah yah yah yah they need to smack niggaz that do STANKY LEG Dance) Got time on my hands this saturday.I released the rap scene in NY Is deteriorating and no longer the same.Dude keeps it thorough in his music. Back to my point.
I don’t know if I’ve just become hard to impress or do NY spitters need to step their rap game up? I have no clue how some of these guys even get mentioned. Dudes like Joel Ortiz? Saigon? Tru Life? J.R. Writer? Jae Hood? Are you kidding me? These guys have maybe one thing going for them. Where is the total package? Right when Big Pun came out, I knew he was a star. Right when DMX came out, I knew he was star. Same with Fiddy before he got shot. Even Nore. None of these new guys have that magical “it” quality (If you think you know someone who does, please hit me up). My point is what the hell happened to the breeding ground?
New York rappers inspired each other and the culture thrived producing superstars. Now rappers see Southern rappers get away with certain things and think “Hey I don’t have to think so hard about my lyrics I can just write the first thing that comes to mind and I’ll be successful too”. What this has done is kill New York’s style of rap, I call “witty thug rap”. It’s intelligent, fun and hard. No rapper in NY is doing this style anymore.NY’s problem is that the big labels dont see artists like Papoose and Saigon as big money makers. They’d rather take their chances with a Southern artist that has a song blowing up down there
Let me talk about fiddy,carrying on from where Hov left off, Fifty went on a rampage breaking down every single New York legend. We all know how Fifty is and his marketing strategies are no longer as effective, but by breaking down everyone from Wu-Tang to Jadakiss to Fat Joe, he made the fans take sides as if it were a war. We all know how lame it is to break others down to build yourself up, but to do this the staple artist of our rap scene only further divided the fans and give New York rap a “crab in the bucket” mentality amongst the up and coming rappers. Case in point, how many rappers had beef during this period? Everyone.
Rappers are claiming to be bringing NY and Boom Bap back but it’s being forced and people can see through that. It should be a natural return to its roots and the sooner that happens the better.
Anyway heres why The South is killin NY right now.
the South is having a damn good time. It’s considered taboo for Southern rappers to diss each other and when they do they usually just fist fight and make up like brothers -far cry from the ultra gun toting NY rappers of the past. Radio hosts in the South never hate on artists or other radio stations. It’s pretty much all love. In short, southern music is fun and easy to digest and has been further elevated by the increase in interest in club and car culture across the country.
1) Southern rappers know how to network together
2) Southern rappers dont beef as much as NY rappers
3) They dont rap about guns and murder as much as NY rappers. So they get more radio air play, make more money on ring tones and get more track plays in the club.
4) Most mainstream rappers down south are very commercial and materialistic so they generate more business for jewelry, clothing, shoe, and car companys.
5) Southern record lables give more down south rappers a chance to shine than NY labels do for their artists.
What do you think my fellow Agians!!!!!!
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Hot Traxxx / Gucci Mane is Number 1 in the South rite now!!
« on: August 21, 2009, 11:49:45 AM »
Its A FRIDAY peeps.Heres some smooth & Jiggy Joint to ride with.
Bump!!
http://xclusivetrax.com/music/Mariah-Carey-feat-Gucci-Mane-Obsessed-Remix-Eminem-Diss/12652-5.html
Video remix
Bump!!
http://xclusivetrax.com/music/Mariah-Carey-feat-Gucci-Mane-Obsessed-Remix-Eminem-Diss/12652-5.html
Video remix
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General Discussion / Have u ever been arrested?
« on: August 20, 2009, 09:58:46 AM »
EY man f*** the Police, f*** SAPS. They arrest you outside your house,your own yard for drinking dumpies with pals and charge you for public Drinking WTF. You stay 5 hours in the police cells for What? Arent they supposed to hunt down real criminals. I Gave em wrong names,wrong surnames,wrong id number and wrong address,lucky for me they didnt take no finger prints. Damn! I dnt want no criminal record im still going far and places to conquer with no shady past on me.You know For some strange reason being there in the cell with those thugs,I kinda felt excited, i felt like a G. Anyway i payed A 100 Bucks and it was over.