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Media / Re: SA rap in The Guardian

« on: February 18, 2011, 01:43:44 PM »

wow.

big ups Rob! you're putting us up and out there, fam. believe this is a first? props, bro. keep moving up. great article.

SA Hip Hop wins.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!

« on: February 18, 2011, 01:31:20 PM »

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Hot Traxxx / Re: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!

« on: February 18, 2011, 09:27:10 AM »

nah, dude, i got you. i just think you touched on an important issue not specific to odd future, and would have liked to see it fleshed out instead of eventually getting swallowed here, or becoming an odd future love/hate thing. the other thread doesn't even have to have shit to do with this group. all good, though.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!

« on: February 18, 2011, 06:44:32 AM »

Shout out to Msanii_XL! oints, I think you raise some interesting points about hegemony in music, but fellas please! this is not the place. open a thread. this one is intended to house and discuss the music, which i think youre judging unfairly, by the way. to me, these dudes are pretty much as dope as most of everyone seems to think and a very welcome addition to Hip Hop.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!

« on: February 17, 2011, 12:30:25 PM »

Peace...!

if there is anything that causes a love-hate relationship with the "world" and the "americans" its definitely their arrogance...more often than not, (in hiphop circles atleast), there will come along a group or an individual whose style is celebrated as "the next big thing" as the be all end all of creativity, an almost messiah like character that is charged with bringing about musical change & salvation to mediocrity...personally, i never give into the hype...they did it with JAY ELECTRONICA, J COLE and now, now they doing it again with ODD FUTURE...i dont dislike their music but i feel its really nothing NEW, GRAVE DIGGAZ did this MORBID rap thing years ago....

i guess what i dislike the most is that musicians in America are often hoisted up as "the be all end all" of creativity, as if the rest of the world now was sleeping before he/they came on the scene and now we have to catch up to his/their persona and style of execution, the better to be considered as "worthy" of listenership...anyhow, enough of my rants...i stay with an open mind...!

   shit! thats an excellent point! been discussing this. please open a thread about it. a few gems in here, too. can you paste this in the thread, as well? peace.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All!

« on: February 11, 2011, 05:10:46 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: The Paradox of South African Youth

« on: January 18, 2011, 12:19:30 PM »

this article makes no sense.

1. a dude in advertising dissing consumerism.

2. parents shaking their heads at kids for driving BMW's whereas more than anything its parents that pressure their children to enter lucrative fields and make money.

3. then he cites American slave owners as examples of good conduct.

to me this fence-sitting is exactly the problem!

we don't even see when we're being contradictory in our actions.

he doesnt hide the contradictions, in fact he points u to it several times, in any case is that all you got from the article?

that's absolutely all i got from the article. 

there isn't anything i haven't heard on here, before. what worries me, though, is that people (especially "Joburgers") rally up behind statements like this as if they in themselves bring absolution,  when this does absolutely nothing except make you feel lofty while you read it at your desk. then you close the window and on you go.

unless you dissect why money and property have become Gods in South Africa you can talk about "unlocking youth potential" all you want and you still won't be saying anything.

this niggas old, too. maybe that's why.

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General Discussion / Re: The Paradox of South African Youth

« on: January 17, 2011, 10:43:34 PM »

this article makes no sense.

1. a dude in advertising dissing consumerism.

2. parents shaking their heads at kids for driving BMW's whereas more than anything its parents that pressure their children to enter lucrative fields and make money.

3. then he cites American slave owners as examples of good conduct.

to me this fence-sitting is exactly the problem!

we don't even see when we're being contradictory in our actions.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: H.A.M. - Kanye West / Jay Z prod Lex Luger

« on: January 16, 2011, 03:51:53 AM »

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Hot Traxxx / Re: New Vid from THE NEW (1852)

« on: January 14, 2011, 10:11:47 AM »

put this on the SA Rap thread!

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Hot Traxxx / Re: H.A.M. - Kanye West / Jay Z prod Lex Luger

« on: January 14, 2011, 12:35:27 AM »

come on, cats. you're telling me even the part where the chorus kicks in doesn't move you? even a little.  you have no soul.

or actually, you have too much soul.

anyway, Lex Luger is only like 20 or something and this is his own sound. i think that counts for something.

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Hot Traxxx / Re: SA RAP

« on: January 14, 2011, 12:31:39 AM »

what's your feeling on the similarity in these two pieces of cover art?

homage or biting?

Man did you even have to ask!?

Lol @ the Spoek album name. "Mshini wami we baba..."

ha ha, hey, i'm tryna diplomatic here! 

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Hot Traxxx / Re: SA RAP

« on: January 13, 2011, 11:04:39 PM »

i know it's more electronic, but anyone peeped the new Spoek Mathambo joint? i'm going through it, now.


01. Gwababa
02. Mshini Wam
03. Mshini Wam Pt2
04. Dont mean To Be Rude
05. Let Them Talk
06. March For Union Buildings
07. Gunboat
08. Out The Box
09. Control
10. Au
11. War On Words
12. Thunder
13. Douche Bag Club
14. Tonite

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Hot Traxxx / Re: SA RAP

« on: January 13, 2011, 07:13:45 PM »

what's your feeling on the similarity in these two pieces of cover art?

homage or biting?

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Hot Traxxx / SA RAP

« on: January 13, 2011, 05:46:47 PM »

a thread about everything SA rap related. it seems redundant since this is Africasgateway, but desperate times...

anyway i'll start getting the ball rolling by asking what's up with this?