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General Discussion / Authentic African Hip Hop Sound

« on: July 29, 2004, 08:31:00 PM »

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29-07-2004 at 12:03, Sensai_Tate : Quote: Wherever international music is imported into a local scene, three things usually occur.  The first event is the actual importation of the music.  Second, local musicians imitate the new form of music. Finally, the music is a**imilated into local cultures and turned into a completely new form of music on its own; a new genre that mixes the original imported style with styles that had already been in within that culture.   That was an american writing on the emergence of Hiphop culture in SA. I think he may have a point. If so what phase if South African Hip Hop at?

Can’t speak for everybody, but according to this, I’m proud to say Kwabulawayo Kraal is in phase 3 8-)  :-]

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General Discussion / Best of DJ Premier

« on: July 28, 2004, 08:26:00 PM »

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28-07-2004 at 12:47, toyvo : Who the hell is Premo ,is it like a new drink or something ?I know my hip hop but Ive never heard of premo not even once,No doubts about it Dre is thee Man.That Premo doesnt even come close and you know it too.Please do keep in touch with reality. See ya

:-o Primo is DJ Premier

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General Discussion / Khoi...Wher is da Kraal

« on: July 28, 2004, 05:24:00 PM »

I think it´s somewhere in the between JHB and Windhoek – nah man here’s what happened I got the CDs with me here at work and I’m going to send them to you – the thing is fast mail is a bit more expensive that I had originally thought and normal mail they say will take anything from 2 to 4 weeks to get there, so I’m waiting for my “the man” to pay me and I can send it fast mail.

Ps give me your postal addy again pls

Tate: yours is here as well
;-)

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Hot Traxxx / ???!!!!????

« on: July 28, 2004, 05:16:00 PM »

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28-07-2004 at 09:35, FT : O.K let´s bring it home a bit, domestically/locally what do U think dictates emcees´ illness especially in Gauteng we have a sea of good emcees  but then we all know dat the half... if not majority...and we can´t dispute the fact... sound like something or someone U´ve heard b4 [should I point ´em out? can U?]... I´m a Gautenger myself so I speak from xperience...so my point iz "keeping it real", being true to yo sh*t can affect the way the nex man´s gonna be judging U good or bad....in this case ill or wack... :-o

:-] ha ha ha!!!! the funny thing is you said I had beef cause i always say something along these lines and I wanted cats to take a leaf of KK and H2O :-], now we can´t dispute the fact that cats GP bite. :-] that´s GP cats for you THEY have to come up with everything not you :-] *in Zwai Bala´s voice* "I really love this place"  

I’m going to sit this one out and follow The Root’s instructions and don’t say nothing

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General Discussion / Best of DJ Premier

« on: July 28, 2004, 04:27:00 PM »

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28-07-2004 at 08:55, Supafly : Replicating Primo? Half of the producers who rep the so-called underground are hard on Primo´s nuts. You should have a listen to Kut Master Kurt (he produced Dilated Peoples´ Work The Angles and a gang of tracks for Kool Keith). There´s also Zion-I, who dropped a track called Mind Over Matter a few years ago - it´s a Premier soundalike! Let´s not talk about 9th Wonder who, although he isn´t a Primo clone, is heavily, heavily influenced by one Chris Martin. Primo is one of the most influential producers of all time. It´s a bit misguided to say that no one has TRIED to copy him. PEACE Supafly

Don´t 4get
Alchemist on Infamous Mobb (Twin Gambino’s solo) – B.I.G. T.W.I.N.S
Evidence of Dilated Peoples on Planet Asia – Right or Wrong and
Soweto´s own Gurash on his – Uyaqhoma (I think that´s what it´s called)  




[ This message was edited by: khoi on 28-07-2004 09:35 ]

[GangStarr:]

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General Discussion / Best of DJ Premier

« on: July 27, 2004, 05:19:00 PM »

GangStarr: Moment Of Truth, Discipline, Full Clip, Above The Clouds, Ma** Appeal, Code Of The Streets, Next Time, JFK 2 LAX, The ? Remainz, So Wha**up? The Ownerz

Non- GangStarr – Royce Tha 59’ - “Boom”, Nas – “NY State Of Mind” and “Second Childhood”, Craig G – “Ready, Set Begin”, Afu-Ra – “Whirlwind Thru Cities”, “Defeat” and “Equality”, M.O.P – “Follow instructions!”, “New Jack City” Rakim – New York (Ya Out There), Jay-Z “So Ghetto”, Big L ft. Big Daddy Kane – “Platinum Plus”

more to come

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General Discussion / Between the lines mixtape

« on: July 26, 2004, 06:33:00 PM »

Ootz check you private mail
;-)

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Producers - Discussion / latest releases

« on: July 22, 2004, 10:58:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 15:41, FT : U know xactly what I mean! Every1 of yo´ post got´s to have dat ´f*ck-american-mimicking´ tone behind it... I guess if it waz up to U evry emcee would rub off Kwabulawayo or H2O or sound impeccably S.African [African] Dat should answer U.... ...and U said "no debate"...   :-o  :-D  :-o

I wasn´t trying to open that can of worms all i was saying was i wanted to  move away from the "Kwabulawayo Kraal fomular", if you listened to our shit you´d know what i´m trying to saying...

I don´t want anyone to rub off us - all i want is for you to do you and i´ll do me (thanks to my boy in Durban 4 letting me, last week, that i need to do me from now on)



and oh! how come you did realise that i didn´t wanna debate but you failed to recognize that this was a chat between me and Nyambz?

[Hey! My GA people I’m not starting a debate here jus having chat with Nyamz]

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Producers - Discussion / latest releases

« on: July 22, 2004, 10:04:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 14:40, FT : [

Personally, I’m looking to make it sound as New York as possible in terms arrangement topic ie street life or maybe puchlines, maybe even brag about clothes, cars (even though I don’t have) - you know talk “nigga stuff”  :-].
Just to prove that you ain’t limiting yourself/ audience when you rap in vanec.        

Hey! My GA people I’m not starting a debate here jus having chat with Nyamz




...hmmmmn.... I read btween the lines & caught dat....

U got beef don´t U?!!??

Anyway we know how the Kraal takes pride in Mzansi citizenry
...hiphop-linguistic-wise...





:-o *in Mzekezeke´s voice* What chu talk bout now? Beef with who, with what or about what?

[ This message was edited by: khoi on 22-07-2004 15:07 ]

[I don’t wish for Jay-Z type fame, but I do wish for Jay-Z type freedom and Jay-Z type money]

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General Discussion / Hip hop vs Fashion

« on: July 22, 2004, 09:37:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 14:22, FT : U know how it iz.... Peolple judge U with yo´ appearence bcos it´s the impression they get about U...[U convince ´em how fly U are] I´m relatively disappointed at Talib´s statement... but hey... But as an artist yo´ art should say more about U. Fashion it´s jus a fad people see thru dat eventually...  :-o

Hope the following statement wont disappoint you:

AllHipHop.com: Do you want Jay-Z type fame?

Kweli: I don’t wish for Jay-Z type fame, but I do wish for Jay-Z type freedom and Jay-Z type money. But no, I don’t wish for that level of fame because it seems annoying, of course I realize that comes with what I do. I really appreciate that I can still travel the world and meet people like Jay-Z, and still live in Brooklyn, and be around regular folks. It’s a little different now than it’s been in my life before. When I walk down the street, more people come up to me than I’m used to, but it’s not in anyway annoying.

AllHipHop.com: Now to The Beautiful Struggle, what can we expect?

Kweli: I’ve got Hi-Tek, Kanye, Dave West, Charlamane, The Neptunes, Just Blaze, Organized Noise, Midi Mafia, just a whole bunch of very talented producers. The guests on the album are John Legend, Common, Mary J. Blige, Anthony Hamilton, Faith Evans, Jean Grae. You know I always try to work with people that there is a mutual respect for, and that are just as excited to work with me, as I am to work with them.

[Ragz & Cloth neva maketh the man!!!!!]

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General Discussion / Hip hop vs Fashion

« on: July 22, 2004, 08:50:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 13:18, FT : Ragz & Cloth neva maketh the man!!!!! :-o

True that, but my question that do they promote the man?

[FIYASKO!]

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Producers - Discussion / latest releases

« on: July 22, 2004, 08:47:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 13:42, FT : Ja... I´m also on the mission, collecting local sh*t myself... Especially unsigned catz... How do I get my hands on dat Domestic Violence MixTape? And more... :-o FIYASKO! :-o

See my first post on this 8-)

[Hey! My GA people I’m not starting a debate here jus having chat with Nyamz]

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Producers - Discussion / latest releases

« on: July 22, 2004, 08:46:00 PM »

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22-07-2004 at 12:07, nyambz : word!! Have u guys recorded to that beat!! i would love to hear some vocals on it

No, for Mubarak´s beat we waiting for him to do his thang – organising studio, how we are going to this.

As for the “R250”, I think I’m going to name the track that, We still don’t have an idea what we going to do with but I would be honoured if you be part of it, I mean mix the track and if possible be there when we record it and have a crack chorus for it…  

Personally, I’m looking to make it sound as New York as possible in terms arrangement topic ie street life or maybe puchlines, maybe even brag about clothes, cars (even though I don’t have) - you know talk “nigga stuff”  :-].
Just to prove that you ain’t limiting yourself/ audience when you rap in vanec.        

Hey! My GA people I’m not starting a debate here jus having chat with Nyamz

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Producers - Discussion / latest releases

« on: July 22, 2004, 04:26:00 PM »

Kwabulawayo Kraal is out and good for you - call me 072 353 1072 to order. 8-)

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General Discussion / KHOI!!!

« on: July 21, 2004, 11:27:00 PM »

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21-07-2004 at 16:10, nyambz : Quote: 21-07-2004 at 09:08, khoi : :-o, I paid R250, Does this mean it´s my loss? [ This message was edited by: khoi on 21-07-2004 09:13 ] i guess it´s both our loss

Don´t sweat it man, i would´ve paid for it, even if i knew you was giving it to me for free, shit is bananas...

anyway are you coming thru to Touchbase this weekend in PTA?, i would be honoured to shake your hand...      


[ This message was edited by: khoi on 21-07-2004 16:28 ]