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Hot Traxxx / Cormega - The Testament
« on: February 22, 2005, 06:49:36 PM »


Code: [Select]
ÞÝÛ | 01| Intro                                             | 01:15 |
ÞÝÛ | 02| 62 Pick Up                                        | 02:52 |
ÞÝÛ | 03| One Love                                          | 03:31 |
ÞÝÛ | 04| Interlude                                         | 00:34 |
ÞÝÛ | 05| Angel Dust Ft. Havoc                              | 03:33 |
ÞÝÛ | 06| Dead Man Walking                                  | 02:12 |
ÞÝÛ | 07| Montana Diary                                     | 04:45 |
ÞÝÛ | 08| Testament                                         | 03:56 |
ÞÝÛ | 09| Testament (Original Version)                      | 03:49 |
ÞÝÛ | 10| Every Hood Ft. Fatal Hussein                      | 03:41 |
ÞÝÛ | 11| Coco Butter                                       | 04:11 |
ÞÝÛ | 12| Killaz Theme Ft. Havoc                            | 03:44 |
ÞÝÛ | 13| Love Is Love                                      | 04:41 |
ÞÝÛ | 14| Hidden Bonus Track                                | 02:17 |
ÞÝÛ |   |                                                   |       |
ÞÝÛ  ---------------------------------------------------------------|
ÞÝÛ                                           Total Time: | 45:01 min


This is the album originally shelved by Def Jam after Cormega refused to sign a production deal with them. He was also kicked out of the original ""THE FIRM" with Nas, Az and Foxy and was replaced with Nature.

Mega bought the masters and finally is putting out.

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General Discussion / WU Manual - The Rza
« on: February 14, 2005, 07:07:08 PM »
243 pages that cover about 60 different subjects about anything&everything concerning the Wu


Quote

-full lyrics of songs, even finally revealing some sentences that we never understood..etc. It breaks down each verse and what they are saying and the meaning.

-what RZA uses to make beats and how..etc..


Isbn: 1594480184

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General Discussion / Cormega Interview - Mega Montana
« on: February 09, 2005, 11:50:42 PM »
got this from thaformula

thaFormula.com - What label on you gonna be dropping "The Testament" on?
Cormega - On my label "Legal Hustle," but I got a different distributor.

thaFormula.com - The last time we spoke you told me that Def Jam wanted crazy loot for that album. How did you end up getting it?

Cormega - Years pa**ed and ni99az made moves man. I got juice.

thaFormula.com - Now there was a comment you made about the underground scene recently. Some people were happy you spoke on it and others were upset?

Cormega - Anybody that got upset over that, it just goes to show how low their level of comprehension is. All you got to do is go to Cormegasite.com and read my January update, which I do every month and you will see it's not even what some people are trying to make it out to be.

thaFormula.com - What brought you to actually speak out on the underground like that?

Cormega - Because somebody one day tried to say I don't consider Mega underground or whatever. Who are you to tell me what I am when I been in this game my whole life. Hip-hop is something that we allowed people to be a part of. This was some private code shit. Rap used to be like slang. It was a slang that niggaz wasn't up on. So don't try to come in my world and change the rules like what they did with Rock & Roll. Who the f*** are you to tell me what underground is when I studied this shit my whole life. I opened up for Rakim, got beats from Large Professor, got KRS One on my next album. Ni99az just need to fall back with that shit. If a rapper thinks he's underground and he thinks he's better then me, I'm willing to battle him. Anything that you say you can do, I'm pretty sure I can do it to or I can probably do it better. I been doing this for years upon years. You got people like KRS looking at me like the torch bearer or the voice of their generation. Like when they say Jason Kid reminds people of the way point guards used to be. The pa** first, then score point guard. People look at me as a reflection of that era. Like when Large Professor said on thaFormula.com that I remind him of that golden era of rap, I took that as a dope compliment because I never knew that he felt that way. Me hearing that from people that I look up to means that I'm doing something right, so I'm gonna continue doing this. Just because your not excepted by mainstream, doesn't necessarily make you underground and just because you rhyme different from somebody else, doesn't make you underground. Even if you are underground, that doesn't make you better or worst then the next person. Everybody has their own flavor. Just do what you do and stop acting like your hip hop and somebody else ain't.

thaFormula.com - One thing I have noticed is when you say a comment speaking on the underground, some people are gonna try and turn it into a racist comment and that's what really upsets me about it...

Cormega - After that statement I also said that you have the Black, disgruntled artist, who claims he's keeping it real and ain't down for the mainstream. But if given the chance to be mainstream, he would go mainstream. I said that right after the first comment, but nobody commented on that. I also recently said that some of the white producers are coming with more heat then some of the black producers lately. Alot of the Black producers are getting lazy and then white producers are coming with bangers. Nobody can use the race card on me because if you look at my "Legal Hustle" mixtape, alot of the producers on it are white. My fans, no matter what color they are know that I respect them and love them for what they are. So I just laugh at that. The only thing I care about is green! That shit is played out. This is a new millennium and I'm not about that shit!

thaFormula.com - How has www.cormegasite.com done for you and are you happy with what it has done?

Cormega - I didn't really know what it could do since I'm new to this internet shit, but I like the fact that I am able to talk to people. I get to see what my fans feel and what my fans want. So I think it's a good thing and I think it's a good mechanism for me to get my music heard and get my opinions heard. So I'm really diggin' it.

thaFormula.com - Do you think that more artists should interact with their fans like that?

Cormega - I think everybody should interact with their fans. Without your fans, what are you? Without your fans your just trying to be a rapper. You are wishing you had fans. I remember how I was like "oh shit" at the first autograph I signed. So now that I'm on, why would I not wanna sign autographs. You got some people that don't wanna sign autographs and I look at them like they are crazy. At the end of the day, we work for the fans. Your fan is your boss. If your fan says f*** you, then your fired. But if your fan shows love, then you still got your job. My fans keep me going cause there have been times I wanted to say f*** this rap shit, but my fans keep me going.

thaFormula.com - What exactly should people expect from The Testament?

Cormega - I think it's doper that it happened like this, because now you are getting "The Testament" the way I want it. Not the way an A&R would have wanted it. I had a song with Carl Thomas the singer. That was supposed to be for "The Testament" but it doesn't fit "The Testament." Not to say that it wasn't a dope record because it was a dope record, but that's not something that Cormega would have did, that's something that Cormega did to make the label happy. So now there is more freedom now. Now I can do songs the way I would have wanted it done as opposed to, alright let me do this to show the label that I can do records like this.

thaFormula.com - How does it feel to put out an album that was made when you started your career. Does it bring back alot of memories?

Cormega - Hell yeah. I think it's gonna bring back memories for alot of people, because it also reminds you of an ill era in rap. Also there is two versions of some songs where the original versions will be on "The Testament." You gonna have 2 versions of the song "Testament" on the album that I'm about to put out. Your gonna have "Angel Dust" the way I like it on there and "killaz Theme" the way I like it on there. The intro is gonna be the way I would have liked the intro. It's my way this time and I think it's good that it's my way because "The Realness" was my way, "The True Meaning" was my way and they were all well received. Also with "The Testament" I'm going to do a remix album. See I was gonna do a remix of these songs and then add them to "The Testament", but it would have took to long. So I will put it out as soon as I get it done and then I'm gonna leak some acapellas to some of the fans, so I can see how they make remixes. If I hear some of the remixes and they sound dope, then maybe I will holla at them to do a real remix and they can make some money.

thaFormula.com - What should people expect from the DVD you got coming soon?

Cormega - The DVD is gonna be so dope. I got so much shit on their. I'm gonna do some real slick commentary to. I got shit that shows how the police is f***ed up. After one of my friends got killed by the police, we came from his funeral and we just standing around in the projects in Brooklyn and then like 100 police came with shields, helmets and sticks. They looked like they was ready to f*** us up. Why else would police come with shields, helmets and sticks. That's riot gear. Usually they just come in a patrol car. If you want us to leave, all you got to say is leave. But they came with riot gear on and the only reason they didn't take action against us is because we had a white guy that was filming. They felt he might have been somebody from a news station or something. I got mad shit on their. I got behind the scenes footage of me in the studio, on tour and just chillin' also. I don't know exactly when I will be dropping it but it will be out within the next 6 months.

thaFormula.com - Do you and Prodigy still speak to each other at all?

Cormega - We don't frequent the same circles. I come to the projects alot. I'm gonna stop coming to the projects alot like that cause I don't really have anything to prove anymore. He don't be in the same circles I be in. I just seen Havoc and we kicked it for a minute. I just do what I do and every rapper just do what they do. It's not like were in the same basketball scene where we got to see each other all the time. We are all living our separate lives.

thaFormula.com - I just remember you guys seemed to be kickin' alot when you dropped "The Realness".

Cormega - We used to but also at that time, Prodigy was about to get a label deal with Priority, but Priority kept asking what's up with Mega. So Prodigy asked me to sign with Infamous to have him secure a label deal and I said yeah, I would do it.

thaFormula.com - So what happened with that?

Cormega - I don't know. I mean I couldn't wait no more because I was just on the shelf with Def Jam for 4 years so I didn't have the time to wait. I'm a hustler and I ain't got time to be waiting. My whole thing was, I'm gonna put this shit out independent and do what I do and if your shit pops off with that and you still need me just holla at me. But Legal Hustle just took off on it's own with the independent shit so now everybody is following my path and going independent.

thaFormula.com - That would have been nice because you and the Mobb got good chemistry man...

Cormega - I ain't gonna front, we do. I sound good over havoc beats. I wouldn't mind doing a song with ni99az again. I was also a little upset at Prodigy, but I'm gonna show you better then I can tell you. Everybody has their side of the story, but when my DVD comes out, I'm gonna show you because I got it on my DVD. That's what I love about doing a DVD. When my DVD comes out your gonna see alot of shit.

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Hot Traxxx / Black Market Militia - Cover
« on: February 08, 2005, 01:53:44 AM »
Killah Priest / Tragedy KHADAFI"

Coming soon:


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General Discussion / Waar was jy?
« on: February 02, 2005, 10:28:41 PM »
Bux invades the Cape. They tell it was going down in CT while I was stuck in jozi:








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Hot Traxxx / Krs One and mad guests Concert Zulu Nation 30th Year (54 min
« on: January 31, 2005, 08:30:15 PM »
Krs One and mad guests Concert Zulu Nation 30th Year (54 mins Audio)

http://www.lunaempire.com/mp3/Krsone%20Live.zip

Download this exclusive LIVE concert of KRS ONE Feat Fat Joe, Lord Finesse, Jeru Da Damaja, Peedo (Luna Empire), Cold Crush Brothers, Zulu Nation, and many other mcs from Old to New.

This historical event took place @ SOBS NYC celebrating Zulu Nation 30th Year. Nov 9, 2003. Download this Live Concert (54 Mins long) and pa** it to others...

Support the Hip Hop Movement!!!

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General Discussion / 50 cent SOHH interview
« on: January 31, 2005, 07:26:30 PM »
Yesterday (Jan. 26), 50 Cent learned along with the rest of the world that Murder Inc. boss-man Irv Gotti turned himself in amidst federal racketeering, conspiracy, drug trafficking and money laundering charges. "What we have here is a bunch of idiots. Irv Gotti, Ja's manager, and Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff -notorious crack dealer from Queens all in jail," he says at first mockingly. "It's a sad story actually. It's a story about a guy that was blessed with the opportunity to make music and used music to make him appear to be the gangster he's not. [He was] a**ociating himself with gangsters, got too involved with it. I guess he's a gangster now."

In fact, it seems that a lot of hip-hop personalities are getting in over their heads lately. New York City has been in an uproar ever since its flagship radio station Hot 97 came under fire last week for a skit that made fun of the tragic Asian tsunami. Always willing to shed some light, 50 says, "If Star and Buc Wild would have did that, it would have been okay, that's 'cause we listen to Star and Buc for that. I listen to them every morning. Miss Jones and them don't have the same energy. Some days they want to talk about something serious and then the next day you do something like this; people don't understand you. They think you're serious 'cause they don't know you to be like that."

Fiddy is himself no stranger to controversy over his behavior and knack for making fun of people. At last year's Summer Jam concert at Giants Stadium, he appeared to be a little annoyed at the New York crowd's lukewarm response. So much so that he taunted the audience "Oh ya'll not feeling me? I know ya'll feeling 50 Cent!" And then began taunting R. Kelly who was on the same bill. So what does 50 think about the fan criticism that's says he's gotten big-headed?

"You know what? At Summer Jam, I had just came back from touring overseas so I came from a place where the crowd really shows you when they're feeling you to New York. New York don't love their own people as much. They feel like when they see you that they're hot or their man is just as hot and they suppose to be doing what you're doing. They look at you from a critic's standpoint, not as a fan. And in a way, New York's love is not visible like in the South. In the South, you come on stage and ni99as started jumping around , acting wild and sh!t, taking off their shirts. In New York, a motherf#@$er will just look at you all day and nod and be like, 'Yeah, I'm feeling this cat,' and that's it.

One cat 50 ain't feeling is Ja Rule. And it doesn't help the matter that two NYC elite emcees hooked with Ja for the hit single "New York" in which Ja makes thinly veiled references to the G-Unit camp. "I think they should have known better," 50 says of Fat Joe and Jadakiss. " I think they should know the difference between rap beef and real beef. They from the same environment. They should know" he shared.

Earlier this month Fat Joe told andPOP.com "Although I'm Ja Rule's friend, Ja Rule has never told me, 'Yo, let's get 'em together.' I've never been involved with that so it's really weird that [50] would be coming at me, but I guess the guy feels he needs this type of hype whenever he comes out with his album or whatever and how more credible could you be then disrespecting Fat Joe?"

However 50 says otherwise. "In his head he's something special. What makes him count? Can we look at the Soundscan, please? I don't even think they're [Terror Squad] in the Top 20," 50 says as he grabs the report off the table. Then he points to where he put a mark next to Ja's album R.U.L.E. on the charts. "Look at this, Ja Rule's album did 538,355 in 10 weeks. Game's album [The Documentary] did 586,933 in 1 week!

On FunkMaster Flex's Hot 97 show, Kiss explained money was his motivation for the collabo. His Ruff Ryder fam Styles P. believe they were the underdogs in The House Jimmy Iovine Built. "We over here struggling, striving and happy to go one mil and get a mil in 'cause that's deep for us...He's selling 10 million records. If we in the same house with [him], who you think at the end of the day, if it gets out of control, they gonna lean toward? We ain't stupid. Automatically, he wins," P proclaimed.

50 agrees, "What he's saying is true. In business, who would you go with? The artist that sells 11 million or the artist that does 1 [million]? But I wouldn't even use that leverage, they can't even compete musically. I think it's an excuse not to compete."

After aiming his anger at Kiss and Crack on wax, 50 has yet to release the diss cut entitled "Piggy Bank." "I'm gonna released 'Piggy Bank' a week before my album. I'm not sure if its going to go on my album. It might just be something I leak to the streets cause I don't want anything considered 'beef' to overshadow what I did for this album."

On his second time around 50 stuck to his formula of witty lines, hot beats, catchy hooks, and a few appearances by his G-Unit family. "I got Eminem on a record, I got Olivia, I got G-Unit. Its all in-house. I almost did it by myself. Em was almost the only one on it with me til Banks and them started protesting . We did the remix also to Game's next single "Hate It Or Love It" with me, Banks, Buck, and Yayo." :roll:

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Hot Traxxx / # Soundscan Industry Figures #
« on: January 20, 2005, 11:14:00 PM »
01/19/05 Soundscan

#2/Eminem/Encore/84,470/99,989/3,701,556
#4/John Legend/Get Lifted/73,180/74,831/265,367
#5/Lil John & East Side Boyz/Crunk Juice/70,107/80,394/1,568,201
#7/Usher/Confessions/56,186/67,402/8,102,182
#8/Jay Z-Linkin Park/Collision Course/55,706/67,896/1,333,447
#9/Ludacris/Red Light District/54,863/74,450/1,050,390
#11/Destiny´s Child/Destiny Fulfilled/53,172/69,801/2,118,391
#14/Snoop Dogg/R&G/43,504/50,388/1,167,028
#15/Mario/Turning Point/42,546/49,102/580,248
#17/Ciara/Goodies/41,851/46,021/1,056,992
#18/Tupac/Loyal To The Game/40,750/55,306/761,979
#19/Nelly/Suit/39,623/43,407/2,533,133
#24/T.I/Urban Legend/34,883/38,036/580,896
#25/Ray Charles/Genius Loves Company/34,544/56,471/2,028,974
#26/Fantasia/Free Yourself/34,401/39,814/760,099
#30/Ashanti/Concrete Rose/31,042/39,669/600,512
#43/Ray/Soundtrack/20,393/24,526/813,082
#52/Camron/Purple Haze/16,117/21,664/317,713
#59/Nas/Street´s Disciple/14,863/19,839/499,224
#67/Alicia Keys/Diary Of Alicia Keys/13,453/15,743/3,870,244
#71/Mannie Fresh/Mind Of Mannie/13,214/18,299/139,616
#72/Black Eyed Peas/Elephunk/13,130/15,873/2,410,741
#73/Trick Daddy/Thug Matrimony/13,109/15,252/549,407
#74/Queen Latifah/Dana Owens Album/13,054/13,030/448,195
#75/Ja Rule/R.U.L.E/12,981/18,060/538,355
#76/Hip Hop Hits/Vol 9/12,478/13,836/104,298
#77/Nelly/Sweat/12,452/15,527/1,218,625
#80/Chingy/Powerballin/12,160/15,933/480,267
#86/Daddy Yankee/Barrio Fino/11,572/12,005/209,966
#88/Xzibit/Weapons Of Ma** Destruction/11,154/14,964/193,057
#94/Fabolous/Real Talk/10,387/11,666/430,963
#101/Seal/Seal Best 1991-2004/9,821/13,755/208,710
#103/Beyonce/Dangerously In Love/9,604/11,532/3,926,450
#108/Young Buck/Straight Outta Cashville/9,193/10,879/933,858
#109/Ruben Studdard/I Need An Angel/9,108/10,353/309,955
#116/Lloyd Banks/Hunger For More/8,322/9,062/1,373,001
#120/Lenny Kravitz/Baptism/8,206/9,590/451,458
#121/Jill Scott/Beautifully Human:Words V2/8,141/7,379/622,738
#124/Lil Wayne/Carter/7,961/9,891/717,480
#126/Kanye West/College Drop Out/7,879/10,701/2,476,980
#134/Anthony Hamilton/Comin From Where I´m From/7,441/8,840/1,029,751
#140/Akon/Trouble/7,121/8,413/473,345
#143/Gerald Levert/Do I Speak For The World?/6,937/6,500/157,069
#151/Ying Yang Twins/My Brother & Me/6,718/8,670/225,429
#152/Diplomats/Diplomatic Immunity II/6,689/7,653/138,489
#157/Mos Def/New Danger/6,460/9,174/346,126
#158/Lil Scrappy-Trillville/Kings Of Crunk/6,390/6,661/632,328
#161/Bone Thugs-N-Harmony/Greatest Hits/6,172/7,950/75,422
#162/Pitbull/M.I.A.M.I/6,029/6,923/312,445
#172/Guerilla Black/Guerilla City/5,529/6,680/206,288
#174/Jay Z/Black Album/5,443/8,000/2,951,661
#177/Micheal Jackson/Number Ones/5,201/4,962/814,847
#179/Lionel Richie/Definitive Collection/5,122/4,962/896,881
#183/Lyfe/Lyfe 268-192/5,064/5,151/115,693
#191/Game/Untold Story/4,868/4,246/73,999

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Hot Traxxx / The GANG!
« on: January 17, 2005, 09:05:00 PM »
tHe  gang...



THE Gang...



THE GANG...





THE GANG!



THE ROCK ARM STEADY GANG!



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/eefhaf/StrongArm.jpg">

Official:
XZBIT
KRONDON
PHIL THE AGONY
MITCH


affiliated:
PLANET ASIA !
CHACE INFINITE (Self Scientific)
DJ KHALIL (Self Scientific)


and RAS Ka** just got of JAIL! 2005 sukkas run for your life! WESTSIDE!





http://www.wireplanet.com/ecom/stores_app/images/images_133/krondon_crack.gif"> Crack MUSIK!

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/530/532507.jpg"> "The Purple Pack" / Aromatic

Dont Forget the Cla**ics:
http://www.addreviews.com/images/albums/2003-05-30-16-07-18.jpg">

20004 - SELF SCIENTIFIC
http://www.wakeupshow.com/selfsci/SELFSCI_Godsgangsters_cover.jpg">

(but please avid Xzibits Commercial joints. This the real hiphop! :-] )

end

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Producers - Discussion / Phahfee posts a Beat
« on: November 26, 2004, 12:52:00 AM »
(nov beatmix)

Some recent shit (not so hyper). Some of it straight loops.
Need your FEEDBACK!

8-)

*download@: http://fahfee.dmusic.com/" TARGET="_blank">http://fahfee.dmusic.com/


*edit.


[ This message was edited by: eef_haf on 01-12-2004 22:59 ]

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Hot Traxxx / LEAK! NAS StreetDisciple
« on: November 17, 2004, 08:13:00 AM »
Nas-Streets_Disciple-2CD-ADVANCE-2004-ESC
Code:

          E S C A P E   R O C K S   Y O U R   S T E R E O   W I T H

                                                               ±
            No.    Track                                 Time  °
       °
         ------------------------------------------------------

                   CD1

            01     Intro                                 01:51
            02     A Message To The Feds, Sincerely, We  02:15
                   The People
            03     Nazareth Savage                       02:41
            04     American Way                          04:10
            05     Coon Picnic (These Are Our Heroes)    04:22
            06     Disciple                              03:01
            07     Sekou Story                           02:56
            08     Live Now                              04:30
            09     Rest Of My Life                       03:51
            10     Just A Moment                         04:23
            11     Reason                                04:48
            12     You Know My Style                     02:53

                   CD2

            01     Suicide Bounce                        03:58
            02     Street´s Disciple                     03:57
            03     U.B.R.                                03:39
                   (Unauthorized Biography Of Rakim)
            04     Virgo                                 03:27
            05     Remember The Times (Intro)            00:51
            06     Remember The Times                    03:24
            07     The Makings Of A Perfect Bitch        03:16
            08     Getting Married                       03:47
            09     No One Else In The Room               05:08
            10     Bridging The Gap                      03:57
            11     War                                   04:18
            12     Me & You (dedicated To Destiny)       03:27
            13     Thief´s Theme                         02:59


    ..   R I P P E R ´ S   N O T E S  ..




           Well, ho muthaf***ing ho.
           ESC Santa is back with another early present..
__________________
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General Discussion / Kill BILL part2
« on: November 16, 2004, 03:13:00 AM »
(CNN) -- You don´t want to get Bill Cosby angry.

And Bill Cosby is angry.

Cosby´s ire is focused at the African-American community: its rates of juvenile delinquency, its parenting, the coarse language of its youth. You can do better, he exhorts his audiences. Don´t let yourself be victims, and especially don´t let the poorest in the community let themselves be victims.

"This is about little children ... and people not giving them better choices," he told Paula Zahn in an interview for CNN´s "Paula Zahn Now." "Talking. Talking. Parenting. Correctly parenting. That´s what it´s about. And you can´t blame other things. You got to -- you got to straighten up your house. Straighten up your apartment. Straighten up your child."

This is not the smiling, avuncular commercial spokesman for Jell-O and Coca-Cola. This is not the wisecracking tennis coach of "I Spy," or the jokey stand-up comedian of "Bill Cosby Is a Very Funny Fellow ... Right" and "To Russell, My Brother, Whom I Slept With," or the fast-talking guy of "Uptown Saturday Night."

This Bill Cosby is more like the man who told his TV son Theo, "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out of it" in an early episode of "The Cosby Show."

Times 10.

And he doesn´t care who knows it. Some of his critics have attacked him for airing what they see as the black community´s dirty laundry in public. Others said that Cosby should also be condemning establishment institutions that, in their view, helped create the situation.

"Judgment of the people in the situation is not helpful. How can you help them is the question," said hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons, founder of Def Jam Records and the Phat Farm clothing line.

Let ´em rant, Cosby says.

"Let them stay mad as long as they don´t have good sense," he told Zahn. "I don´t care what right-wing white people are thinking. ... How long you gonna whisper about a smallpox epidemic in your apartment building when bodies are coming out under the sheets?"
Focus on education

To get the message out, Cosby has organized and continues to organize town hall meetings in inner city communities where community leaders -- from police chiefs to district attorneys to parents to schoolteachers -- get everyone to talk about how to help give kids better choices.

Cosby first caused controversy after making a speech at a celebration of the 50th anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark Supreme Court decision that struck down school segregation.

"People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we´ve got these knuckleheads walking around. ... The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting," he said, addressing an audience of Washington VIPs.

"Brown versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person´s problem. We have got to take the neighborhood back. ... They are standing on the corner and they can´t speak English."

A number of commentators have defended Cosby, including NAACP President Kweisi Mfume, who shared the dais with Cosby, and black newspaper columnists Clarence Page and Leonard Pitts Jr.

"He´s pissed a lot of people off," Kevin McCaskill, principal of a vocational high school in Springfield, Ma**achusetts, told "Paula Zahn Now." McCaskill has worked with Cosby on educational programs. "[But] he simply said this is what is occurring, what are we going to do about it, without excuses. ... It´s not about Kevin McCaskill nor do I think it´s about Bill Cosby. It´s about what do we have to offer to make people the best they can possibly be."

Cosby has a longstanding interest in education. The actor earned a doctorate in the subject from the University of Ma**achusetts and has made shows, such as the Saturday morning cartoon "Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids," with an emphasis on teaching. (Indeed, "Fat Albert" was the subject of his dissertation.)

The comedian is also symbolic of what he preaches. Raised in a poor Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, neighborhood, he dropped out of high school to join the Navy but later earned his diploma through a correspondence course.

He acknowledges he could push the limits as a youngster. A teacher called him "a schemer with a high IQ."

But, he told Zahn, "what kept me out of trouble is going right to the edge and then ... thinking that my mother would be embarra**ed, and that I didn´t want to embarra** her, and that my father would be embarra**ed, and I just didn´t want to do that to my family."

He earned an athletic scholarship to the city´s Temple University and worked nights as a bartender -- which is how his comedy talent was discovered.

In the 1960s, Cosby was a trailblazer. Other black comedians of the time focused their routines around race; Cosby told tales of childhood. On the other hand, Cosby was one of the first African-Americans to star in a TV series, "I Spy" -- and received equal billing with his co-star, Robert Culp, to boot. He won three Emmys for his performance in the series. His comedy LPs won Grammys.

´Make them think´

"The Cosby Show," which began in 1984 and was TV´s No. 1 series for several years, cemented Cosby´s status. The show didn´t talk down to its audience and simply a**umed the success of its black characters: Cosby´s obstetrician, Dr. Cliff Huxtable; his lawyer wife, Clair; their five children and, later, grandchild; and their comfortable life in the upscale New York City neighborhood of Brooklyn Heights.

"When it came time for the Huxtables, it was off of my routines," he told CNN. "And I was watching television and I noticed that a number of television series had these little ... children who were brighter than the parents."

He wanted to change that around.

"Our children ... were never brought up to feel that comfortable that they could call the parents stupid. First of all, they´re not working. They´re homeless," he told Zahn with some amused exasperation. "You can´t do that."

Cosby´s career hasn´t always run smoothly. An early ´70s series, "The Bill Cosby Show," and a mid-´70s variety effort, "Cos," both tanked. He made two movies during the "Cosby Show" run, "Leonard Part 6" and "Ghost Dad," both of which failed at the box office.

There´s no guarantee that his education and parenting crusade will pay off, either. As a 67-year-old multimillionaire entertainer old enough to be the crotchety grandfather of today´s teens, he knows it´s going to be hard to make people listen.

But he´s going to try, full speed ahead.

"When I say, ´I don´t care what white people think,´ I mean that. I mean, I´m addressing my people, period," he told CNN. "I´m telling you. I want all this loud profanity in the street stopped. ... I want you to stop doing things that are detrimental to your getting at least an education with a high school credential. I´m talking to the people who are dropping out."

Even if all this means taking a hit in his popularity?

"Maya Angelou said, ´You know, Bill, you´re a very nice man, but you have a big mouth,´ " he said. "So I just want to be the big mouth and make them work, make them work, make ... make them think."

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Hot Traxxx / HOT 25 joints right now1
« on: November 14, 2004, 01:51:00 AM »
fav hiphop jams right now??

mine

1. ROYCE 59 - BUZZ
2. NAS & AZ - SERIOUS!
3. THE ALCHEMIST ft GAME & PRODIGY - DEAD BODIES
4. THE ALCHEMIST ft PRODIGY - HOLD YOU DOWN
5. THE ALCHEMIST ft DEVIN THE DUDE - WHERE CAN WE GO
6. SHYNE ft FOXY BROWN - MORE OR LESS
7. GAME & PRODIGY - DEAD BODIES
8. ROYCE 59 - HIPHOP
9. EDO G ft MASTA ACE - WISHING
10. CORMEGA - THERAPY
11. MOBB DEEP - WIN OR LOSE
12. SAMY DELUXE - BLICK ZURÜCK
13. THEODORE UNIT presents TRIFE - PUNCH IN PUNCH OUT
14. JLIVE ft TJES - GIVE IT UP
15. KARDINAL OFFISHAL - BANG BANG!
16. TALIB KWELI ft MOS DEF - SUPREME SUPREME
17. MOS DEF - MORDEN MARVEL
18. Q-UNIQUE - DIAMOND IN THE RUFF
19. MASTA ACE - BROOKLYN MASALA
20. AZ ft TONY SUNSHINE - TALKING GANGSTA
21. TERROR SQUAD - LEAN BACK!
22. TERROR SQUAD ft BIG L & BIG PUN - BRING EM BACK!
23. PHIL DA AGONY ft CHACE, RAEKWON & KRONDON - THOUSAND WORDS
24. RA THE RUGGED MAN - THE LESSON
25. NAS - BRIDGING THE GAP(MARLEY MARL REMIX)



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Hot Traxxx / White People
« on: October 31, 2004, 10:50:00 PM »
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1.    "Intro"    
2.    "If It Wasn´t For You" (feat. De La Soul/Starchild Excalibur)    
3.    "Are You Down With It (feat. Mike Patton)"    
4.    "The World´s Gone Mad" (feat. Alex Kapranos/Del/Barrington Levy)    
5.    "Dating Game (feat. Tim Meadows)"    
6.    "Breakdown" (feat. Jack Johnson)    
7.    "It´s Like That" (feat. Casual)    
8.    "I Am Complete" (feat. Hieroglyphics)    
9.    "I´ve Been Thinkin´ (feat. Cat Power)"    
10.    "Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Pt. 2" (feat. DJ Q-Bert/Mike Shinoda/Chester Bennington/Grand Wizard Theodore/DJ Jazzy Jay/Lord Finesse)    
11.    "Knockers skit (feat. Tim Meadows)"    
12.    "The Hours" (feat. Cage/El-P)    
13.    "First...And Then" (feat. Dreas)    
14.    "A Day In The Life" (feat. RZA/A.G.)    
15.    "Good Hygiene (feat. Tim Meadows)"    
16.    "Greatest Mistake (feat. John Oates / Paula Frazer / Jaime Cullen)"    
17.    "Runaway Song Pt 2" (feat. Kid Koala)    
18.    "Outro"


I´ve only heard track 14. I want this!!!

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General Discussion / Nelly: music and politics dont go together
« on: October 27, 2004, 03:23:00 AM »
Nelly´s comments ignore hip-hop´s political power


Date: Friday, October 08,
2004

By: Walter Higgins,
BlackAmericaWeb.com


What would hip-hop music be without Grandmanster Flash and the Furious Five, Tupac or the revolutionary lyrics of Dead Prez? Don´t know? Well ask platinum-selling rap artist Nelly .

The rapper, whose real name is Cornell Haynes, Jr. urged fellow entertainers to keep politics out of music if they want to stay successful in a recent interview with Blender magazine.

"Some people don´t want politics in their music," said Nelly. "Some
people want their music to be uplifting so they can have fun and dance."

"If you want to do the politics thing, be more involved personally, but you could talk about that and then tomorrow wake up and you´re not selling records. So now you protested the war? and your broke!" Critics say that Nelly´s comments ignore the political legacy of hip-hop and the powerful social influence it has
today.

"That´s basically a slap in the face to Public Enemy and others who have come before him and changed the face of hip-hop more than he ever will," said Aaron Bernard, a hip hop activist and program director for KJAMZ 105.3 in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

"It´s sad for somebody in his generation of hip-hop to say something
like that because he sells so many records and has so much influence. He doesn´t have to make conscious records, but to say that no one else should is ridiculous," added Bernard.


While Nelly´s album sales just pa**ed the 30 million mark, the ´politics thing´ has not damaged the record selling potential of other artists. Jadakiss´ platinum selling "Why," sparked controversy by questioning the Bush administration´s knowledge of the September 11 attacks. Kanye West´s album sales increased after the release of "Jesus Walks," a song that blurs the lines between politics and spirituality.

With more hip hop artist realizing their social influence, Bakari
Kitwana, author of "The Hip-Hop Generation," added several big names in the hip hop community have begun to direct their energy toward the political arena, including Russell Simmons, Jay-Z and P Diddy.

"Hip-hop is political," said Kitwana. "His comments defy what is going on now, 5 years ago or 20 years ago."

All the critics agreed that Nelly´s comments represent the difference between hip hop culture and the mainstream appeal of rap music which is driven by record sales.

"For him to say keep politics out of the music is basically saying he´s not hip-hop," said Greg Thomas, professor at Syracuse University. "How do you have black music without politics? Look at all the people we would loose."

"Nelly is rap, he is not hip hop, there is a difference," said Kitwana. "The mainstream attention has been good but the downside has been the pioneers don´t get respect and people aren´t really studying the art and culture of hip-hop." Although Nelly says his music is solely for dancing and having fun, Thomas says it can become a political statement when it promotes negative images common in rap music.

"He´s not keeping politics out his music when it comes to his views on women," said Thomas, referring to controversy surrounding the ´Tip Drill´ video in which Nelly swipes a credit card through a black woman´s backside.

The video initiated a protest at Spellman University that led to Nelly canceling a charity event there last April.

Nelly also raised eyebrows when he unveiled his Pimpjuice Energy Drink
last November, which caused a national boycott by a coalition of black consumer activists. Plus, he started the P.I.M.P. Scholars program that gives grants to college students.

When asked if the brand of rap currently dominating the airwaves will
ever change, Bernard said there is a "bright light" at the end of the tunnel.

"There are plenty of artists out there that still make you move but
come from a different direction, people like that are going to last," said Bernard. " Songs like Nelly´s are going to come and go because they are disposable." :-o

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