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what is being wack and how do you define wackness or phatness...
i found myself consumed by those words today, and being a hip hop head amazingly I was perplexed as i could not come with an answer.

is being phat chategorized by the appeal of an mc on stage, his delivery, creativty, energy during his recitals...is an mc dope coz he writes dope songs according me or you or coz they're nice in ciphers? is an MC that never ciphers but writes good songs really nice?

does phatness escapes an MC or an MC escapes niceness...like most MCs i felt 2 years ago don't come- off anymore, do we really love our reflections from other people? since hip hop heads are only human and say for example...we love the same MC coz he  hot at the moment but after a year dude sucks, was he ever phat or was it just the hype that got us?

i remember backday with my boys, we used to go Angels, The Lounge and The Jam etc everyweekend night! i remember we used to get there with no cash, i mean we got there with only the cash to get in and sometimes without...well, that was love. dudes used to sleep at the station with only heat and warmth generated by the papers we burnt at where we were chilling the whole night just to catch the first train home. the reason for these was to get to ciphers to kill other MC's in battles and to see who come up with the nicest freestyle....that doesn't happen anymore....MC's don't really cipher anymore, is commercialism the focuss of most MCs that the importance of such an important part of the hip hop culture. honestly there's really a few MC's that i have met lately who can really freestyle. most MC's cant go- off the head even for as long as five minutes without quoting from his verses.........so are we phat or wack now?...............in the so- called battles and freestyles are premeditated. is this the "death" of the underground in South Africa or maybe i'm missing the development of the underground community in terms of MCing....if this is well, false as an MC when last did u cipgher or even battled (not the same cat you've been chowing for decades, i mean a worthy MC)

this goes to my questions again...how do we define phatness and wackness?

my conclusion is no matter how you define both those concepts the most important thing is what are you doing about the state of the underground in your province or region to elevate and educate the ma**es and the kids about Underground Hip Hop.
I used to listen to nothing but the underground but grew musicallly and per sonally, so now i listen to music...and yes i own a huge collection of underground records and i still collect...

the fact is what we feel or don't is governed by our peers and i don't really think there's a definition of either phatness or wackness or even on a personal level  coz the same cat you feel today you might be hating next year, nah what i mean.......

you can drop your thoughts/comments i would love to hear your views


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'Sup.

Here's what i think:

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Whats dope/ nice? Whatever u feelin. All a matter of opinion, and at the end of the day, dopeness is in the ear of the beholder. It's all subjective. U may link up with ppl that also find summin dope, but they prolly feel it differently from u, and may find it dope 4 different reasons. Dont let this "common opinion of dopeness" trap u in a hive mentality, or experience ma** hysteria and try to draw a solid, fine line between dope and wack. Its all subjective.
Yes, many times the majority will agree on summin being dope or wack, but if i'm the only guy feelin britney or sum otha shit which every1 esle thinks is wack, its still dope 4 me. Maybe i even experience mo joy listening to britney than her haters when they bump whatever it is they like. All that matters is that i like it. If theres mo cats like me, gr8, coz now i can talk 2 sum1 about it, and bump it around them and still preserve my health.
If asked wether i find summin dope, i'll state my opinion. If asked wether i think other peeps will find summin dope, i try and predict others' opinions.
On a different, note, i think sum ppl dont even know what they like, and they jus go with the crowd. And there's a lot of them. I was always 1 o dem cats that got albums early b4 peeps even knew who the artist was sumtimes. Niggas find me bumpin this new shit and they tell me its wack, i'm crazy (when i first got busta), etc. etc. Months later the video comes out, the singles hit the radio, and all of a sudden the same haters are lovin it....   and i got my sanity back.  :x
I know this shit done happened to all the real heads out there, i aint even gonna ask for an amen.  :!:  :!:  :!:
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This is hell trapped in words/ salt grains the size of my fist scratched on ur nerves/ a beastes hunger when ur so called
'phat a**" appeared/ nuttin to f*** wit like women wit beards/ the consciousness of phrophets debatin times limits and fears/ the reason why heads noticed fake from who's real/ ya'll f*** a cypher up, i turn to a hannibal feast/ bitch niggaz spit sick coz there's yeast in their lips/ fronters dont wanna hear coz they're scared to get dissed/ i got endurance to use my pomb to try and trap mist/ when will the devil leave us alone and ceas to exist/ he's comoflouged in blunt smokes and em drinks/ the shinney artist and the media we live in/ i'll only be a wife beater if that bitch cant get out the kitchen/ freedom is like time from idle hands, it traps u if its missing/ im trying to keep the world briefed that sick emceez do exist/ woke up wit a dagger attatched to my babie1s wrist/ sum crazy shit that got me seing demons winking in my scripts/ im for them battle, who craddle raps and dont spit to be cheered/ if u aint hearing this u dont diserve to have ears/ been messin wit sick dimes, now im done trading around wit my life/ dont say im loud or faul for scriptin a brawl/ its just sumtimes i wanna mess around-get u f***ed up/ make every women in ur family use a pokipine as an earbud/

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This is hell trapped in words/ salt grains the size of my fist scratched on ur nerves/ a beastes hunger when ur so called
'phat a**" appeared/ nuttin to f*** wit like women wit beards/ the consciousness of phrophets debatin times limits and fears/ the reason why heads noticed fake from who's real/ ya'll f*** a cypher up, i turn to a hannibal feast/ bitch niggaz spit sick coz there's yeast in their lips/ fronters dont wanna hear coz they're scared to get dissed/ i got endurance to use my pomb to try and trap mist/ when will the devil leave us alone and ceas to exist/ he's comoflouged in blunt smokes and em drinks/ the shinney artist and the media we live in/ i'll only be a wife beater if that bitch cant get out the kitchen/ freedom is like time from idle hands, it traps u if its missing/ im trying to keep the world briefed that sick emceez do exist/ woke up wit a dagger attatched to my babie1s wrist/ sum crazy shit that got me seing demons winking in my scripts/ im for them battle, who craddle raps and dont spit to be cheered/ if u aint hearing this u dont diserve to have ears/ been messin wit sick dimes, now im done trading around wit my life/ dont say im loud or faul for scriptin a brawl/ its just sumtimes i wanna mess around-get u f***ed up/ make every women in ur family use a pokipine as an earbud/

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