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What a question. What have these dudes achieved?

The very fact that you rap and count hip-hop as one of your pa**ions is an indicator of what they've achieved. Were it not for them and others like them, you wouldn't be the person you are. AG wouldn't exist. The word crack would probably never have entered your vocabulary. That's something money plays no part in.


thats my point exactly! thats not what THEY HAVE ACHIEVED! thats what HIPHOP has achieved! what have they achieved individually!? as a nigga!
not tryin to sound like i dont dig em cats! cos i do! but PROPS is all im givin em! and thats all hiphop and anybody else has given them!
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    what's gonna make me 'rich' is working with interesting artists who've got something to say, travelling, going to new places, meeting different people - these are things i can achieve without compromising the integrity of the music i love.
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    So u want to be rich....and u dont want to compromise ur music! I hope u make it happen.....if u dont....then would it be fair to say that u nothing but a talented producer...? That doesnt make u wack or mediocre....but it would make u a wack artist and hustler! Live ur dreams....I also dont compromise my music but ima sell records cos more than just buyin my music.....people will by me!!! To those who compromise their music for the sake of sellin....il still show u love if u reached ur intended goals...il respect ur hustle! If ur shit is tite and u a real nigga....theres  no boundaries in ur way.....just be real about ur intensions and expectations and stay true to urself! Dont say shit if u cant back it up...cos if u do....then u mediocre!!!
    m the illest and realest entertainer there is out there....im the best at what i do and i not about to compromise my music or character to try and fit in this comedy showcase they call a music industry......


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    I believe acts like gza,masta ace masta killa make most of their money thru concerts and tours.....

    europe loves this acts...they might be a hit or miss with sales but concert sales most likely makes for up them.

    SMH@  at pretty ricky sounding cats claiming masta ace is wack....
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    What a question. What have these dudes achieved?

    The very fact that you rap and count hip-hop as one of your pa**ions is an indicator of what they've achieved. Were it not for them and others like them, you wouldn't be the person you are. AG wouldn't exist. The word crack would probably never have entered your vocabulary. That's something money plays no part in.


    thats my point exactly! thats not what THEY HAVE ACHIEVED! thats what HIPHOP has achieved! what have they achieved individually!? as a nigga!
    not tryin to sound like i dont dig em cats! cos i do! but PROPS is all im givin em! and thats all hiphop and anybody else has given them!


    You're a strange one. You've got a really skewed take on hip-hop; your world view seems to be rife with contradictions.

    Good luck with the career bro. Hope it goes well.
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    "Does anyone remember the Juice Krew?
    They sure dont make 'em like they used to" - slug

    what Rob is trying to say is that if it weren't for ACE and others like him, who you consider to be mediocre artists, you wouldn't even know about hip hop. Ace is one of the people that spread hip hop to the ma**es. Along with Tragedy, Kid Capri and other people who may not be as rich as you lie about being, they were the pioneers of this artform and culture.

    If it were'nt for Kool Herc, there would be no hip hop as we know it. Kool herc isn't rich, yet he has that "swagger" f***, he invented that "swagger". Same can be said for Afrika Bambaata. Do you even knwo who these people are?

    They are the ones Pac and jigga and Fiddy and all you other heroes look up to.

    Also, counting album sales as a measure of how much money you make is simply retarded. El-p, Eyedea and others like them make more from selling 200 000 copies independently than Fiddy makes from selling 2 000 000 copies through his lable. Why?

    Because the lable takes costs for marketing, packaging, studio time, pressing up the album, investing in his bling, his cars and everything else that makes you dream of living their lifestyle.

    Most artists on major lables make 90% of their income from concerts and tours. they earn approximately 20 cents from every 12 dollar album sold.

    I've been watching you guys' threads and posts and some of your igorance is simply astounding. I think you have some potential, but you need to change your attitiudes and be more open to criticism. stop acting like you're living in a music video or gangster movie, cos where I'm from, I've seen lots of guys get the shit kicked out of them for that kind of behaviour. Maybe it doesn't work like that at your house in Randburg, but people do really get killed for acting like thugs hwne they aren't.

    Maybe you should go give your Kiyosake another read. Put away the fake bling and stop lying. People might actually start taking you serious.




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    ...and Pyro does a Gibbs and smacks it for six. Well said.
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    I AM A BIT CONFUSED HERE R YO'LL GAANING ANN BOUT THE TRACKS THT WERE POSTED ON THIS THREAD OR SOME USELESS SH!T THT WONT BENEFIT THIS DAY... IS IT BOUT THE MUSIC OR YO f***EN BELIEFS... TO BE HONEST YO'LL R WASTING ENERGY... I HATE IT WHEN CATS LOSE DIRECTION... I DONT THINK THIS IS BOUT THE MONOPOLY OR U ROB OR f***EN ACE... IT WAS BOUT CRACK... 4 SONGS THT WERE POSTED... NO-ONE BESIDES THE 1ST 2 REPLIES ADDRESSED THE MUSIC THEN YO'LL STARTED TALKING SHIT.... GENTS PLS I AM NO LONGER USING FOUL LANGUAGE BUT LE KAKA WILL LEAD TO DRAMA AND I KNOW IT IRRITATES THE LIVING SH!T OUT EVERYONE ON AG EXCEPT ME.........
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    These cats love our attention D......thats that!
    m the illest and realest entertainer there is out there....im the best at what i do and i not about to compromise my music or character to try and fit in this comedy showcase they call a music industry......


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    again! i never said masta ace is whack as a rapper! but as a viable artist! YES! ask all the labels that dont f*** wit him! ask the ones that dropped him!

    u dudes never answer any questions! jus keep ramblin on.....
    guess my views and questions are too complicated for yall! or u jus dont wana face em!

    all yall sayin is how these niggas played a PART in hiphop! thats COOL! i respect them for that! i dont dispute that! i give them the same PROPS yall do! YES! i wouldnt be shit if it wasnt for all these guys playing their PART! i achknowledge that! but other than playing their PART! what else have they ACHIEVED individually!? never mind! nobody s gon answer anyway! jus gon get more ramblings! :D

    to mzansi xl!!!!!yes these dudes get shows in europe at HIPHOP events! but do they do MASTA ACE EVENTS! NOPE! they jus part of the line-up! do they tour as individuals! as the MAIN ACT as GZA! not WU TANG! its a simple logical NO!
    ps. i get on any track nigga! ima keep doin pretty ricky type hiphop! wu type hiphop! southside type hiphop! street shit! party shit! G shit, in the club shit,deep shit! battle type lyrical shit! i do it all! jus not kwai-hop shit!! :D  u jus mad cos u can only cut it doin kwai-hop! u aint versatile!

    back to the music! f*** the bullshit! i can body anything! gimme any beat! i'll body it! matter fact,acapella! whatever! yall heard me on metro on SAT! i bodies those American cats! i represent SA all the way! ask Bob Mabena! he called in and gave the DJ a raise after i bodies those 2 f***in American cats! ask Kevin Liles, he was witnessin it!!!!
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    CASH f*** THIS SHIT NIGGA CAN YO'LL STOP TALKING BOUT IRRELAVANT SHIT COZ IT DONT f***EN MATTER WHAT ACE DID...f*** THE WUTANG CLAN... f*** THIS SHIT.....SO I GUESS NO-ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY BOUT THE TRACKS... R THEY WACK R THEY TITE...

    R THESE f***ERS SO GUD (MONOPOLY) THT U WUD RATHER ATTACK CASH ON HI OPINIONS or FACTS... R U TELLING ME NO MOTHERf***ER CAN COMMENT ON THE TRACKS... IS THIS A SIGN OF DEFEATS... NOT EVEN THREADSTALKER IS TALKING SHIT... AG HAV U BEEN CONQUERED... WHT HAPPENDED TO LA RESISTANCE...
    CRACK BOY WANNA BE...


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    Go back to the beginning of the thread, sunshine. Read. Absorb. Then come back. And please STOP TYPING ALL YOUR SHIT IN CAPS.
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    CASH f*** THIS SHIT NIGGA CAN YO'LL STOP TALKING BOUT IRRELAVANT SHIT COZ IT DONT f***EN MATTER WHAT ACE DID...f*** THE WUTANG CLAN... f*** THIS SHIT.....SO I GUESS NO-ONE HAS ANYTHING TO SAY BOUT THE TRACKS... R THEY WACK R THEY TITE...

    R THESE f***ERS SO GUD (MONOPOLY) THT U WUD RATHER ATTACK CASH ON HI OPINIONS or FACTS... R U TELLING ME NO MOTHERf***ER CAN COMMENT ON THE TRACKS... IS THIS A SIGN OF DEFEATS... NOT EVEN THREADSTALKER IS TALKING SHIT... AG HAV U BEEN CONQUERED... WHT HAPPENDED TO LA RESISTANCE...


    did rob jus call Drama Boy,SUNSHINE! :lol: he obviously dont know that nigga! hahahahaha!!!!!!

    yo rob! pls answer my questions next time we engage in any conversations! stop rambling on, meaninglessly making points on stuff we all agree on! tell me about ACES personal tangible achievements other than PROPS from heads! we all know he's a great lyricist! dont go there again! and we all know he has contributed to hiphop as a whole and my life! but what did he do or achieve as an artist/person! FACTS!..........u got nuttiiiiing!!!!!
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    Quote from: cash
    u got nuttiiiiing!!!!!


    ...except my integrity, obviously.

    Cash, bro, I have answered all of your questions and added my own observations. I'm not the only person on this thread to have pointed out that a lot of what you said contradicts your earlier statements or is just plain garbage. And what, precisely, is Drama Boy going to do over the Internet?

    I think we're done here.
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    Quote from: "cash"
    we all know he's a great lyricist! dont go there again! and we all know he has contributed to hiphop as a whole and my life! but what did he do or achieve as an artist/person! FACTS!..........u got nuttiiiiing!!!!!


    I'm not with you on this one cash,,, masta ace has made 6 solo albums over a period of 18 years in the game. He's also done collabs with artists including; Eminem, Common, Guru, Jean Grae, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Saukrates, Young Zee, Big Noyd, Cella Dwellas, King Tee, Tonedeff, Rah Digga, Strick, Das Efx, Wordsworth, Greg Nice and the Beatnuts and many others.

    He's had a whole career making a living out of music and producing some of the most influential hip hop ever made. All of his albums have made it into the Billboard charts and the R&B/ Hip Hop charts (#19 highest position).

    Sure, he's not 50 Cent or Jay-Z, but his achievements go beyond financial and that brings its own kind of wealth.


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    I think what Cash is trying to say is that Ace didn't  achieve anything or contribute as far as making millions and spending it on silly shit like fake bling and expensive shit that no one needs.

    He was stupid enought otinvest his money in shit that will ensure him a comfortable retirement and a good life with his wife.

    What a loser he is.