Crumbling Unit

[Ski Will]

yo C i am down with you 100%. i hate crunk,i hate T.I and all those ATl bullshttters.

Crunk.That aint Music.thats drunk people talking on shit they were breast fed.
 
I HATE CRUNK MUSIC. I HATE CRUNK MUSIC .I HATE IT

Luda is the man,Busta is the man,jigga is my nigga,Lupe is the shit,ghost face...shit have you heard the More Fish album...that is innovative...dont come and tell me about  Crunk.
the only time i crunk is when i got 40's guzzle,other wise f*** crunk.

I HATE IT ,I HATE I HATE IT.

[MrC The Rap God Almighty]

[T.I.]
you done f***ed up and started shit wit some real shit starter

     

More funny shit, that is straight up, a wack-a** line. Starting shit with a real shit starter ?? 8O  8O  8O  8O  You don't say.



Cash,
Check out this video i posted yesterday for some real music from 2007.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPZ2-FVcM3M

[Bondizzo]

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[T.I.]
Ay I'm the best you ever heard about, fresher than you heard about
yeah I'm strapped now pussy nigga this ain't just word of mouth
for niggaz wit dirty mouths, I got a lotta clean pistols to wash 'em out
I'm really finna give yo a** some hotter shit to talk about
the goons hit the room now you askin what's this all about
fo' you know it ya noggins split ya bottom teeth is fallin out
got a problem wit patna -I see him in the city and call him out
it wasnt for the chopper ain't shit I'm gettin all of mine
pop 'em drop 'em call the plan a wake he out forever more
I give it to you straight nigga I don't need a metaphor
how many different ways is it to say I'm getting cheddar more
a nigga twice as old way mo' popular need to set at all
Man I just say it to my pops, maybe he could tell ya better boy
patient in the afterlife I'll waste ya in the after life
even after my life haters be after my life
cuz I'ma do in 06 what took 'em half of they life, man I'm talkin to you

Can someone else see what is wrong over here ?
dude is using the same words at the end of each line to rhyme.

He's rhyming

about with about.
out with out
more with more
life with life.

Nigga please, this shit is straight up wack. Didn't even bother to read the second verse, probably more of the same shit.

Come on now Cash. That aint no f***en MC.

wtf, music is music, its not a science ppl

[MrC The Rap God Almighty]

Nobody said anything about it being a science. The purpose of rhyming is to use different words that gel well together. This dude rhymes nigga with niggas for 8 bars ?? I mean come on. It's cool to do it once in a while when u really want the point of what u're saying to come through. But these muthaf***ers do it all the time.

There used to be rules to this shit. Wack muthaf***ers were thrown off stage. Remember KRS-ONE vs. PM DAMN ?

Now everybody embraces the wackest niggas. If you wack u wack. No excuses.

[TNGlive]

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Can someone else see what is wrong over here ?
dude is using the same words at the end of each line to rhyme.

He's rhyming

about with about.
out with out
more with more
life with life.

Nigga please, this shit is straight up wack.

Um,

Roc-A-Fella forever, Hov for life
Debut's a cla**ic, first album four mics
I should have got a five, but niggas lacked foresight
But I don't give a f***
I aint't do it for the hype
I do it for the hustlers, for the ghetto, for their plight
For the struggle, for those who bubble white
For fly four-by-fours, ruthless cars, flawless ice
For the pain for yall to know what it's like
For everytime it rains forty days and forty nights
For every promise made that never saw the light
I'll get my own forty acres give me four nights
Four O's, a glock forty for the jackers and I'm right
Or the four-four would suffice
A fourteen year old to look out for the Vice
And you can sit back and can just wait for the flight
Voyeur takeoff look I've been strippin all my life
That's the type of metaphors I write
To let niggas know I was real before the mic
Before front rows had the fur at the fight
No PETA on my peter left some room for the divas
In a suite we'll meet up if you're wild for the night
On a rampage, champagne pours on the floor
For all those who aint make it here lost their life
Wouldn't forget y'all for any price
Not for no hoes, not for no ice
Not for no fame, nor for bright lights
So I'm a end this here real mean but I'm right
Forty-four fours muthaf***ers, I'm nice!

Using that same technique more or less...rhyming

For with Four,
For with For,
Forty nights with Four nights,

The simple words used to rhyme in this, a series of :
plight,
white,
ice,
like,
nights,
light,
nights,
right, ..again
life,
price,
ice,
lights,
right,
nice....

But you want to say because he's not using longer words that are'nt that similar, the guy who said this is not an emcee...An emcee makes u read between the lines, what matters is what is being said...And this use of the smae simple words is one of humerous techniques. What matters is what is being said in the verse.
That's the probelm with HEADZ in the world really, HEADZ ain't checking for hip hop from other regions outside "New York", or areas that produce "New York" beats/feelin/sound/vibe/topics...so much so u close up to actually listening to the emcee's message and disregard it as garbage. Be it from Atlanta, or South Africa.  But if u are from these areas making ur owbn isht, u want people to check for it how if they have this mentality? Add the "New York" feel/sound then u're not being original. ....  Bit of a no win situation don't you think?

[TNGlive]

The purpose of rhyming is to use different words that gel well together.  It's cool to do it once in a while when u really want the point of what u're saying to come through. But these muthaf***ers do it all the time.

I feel what you're say. And that's solid fact. That's why most of htese South Peeps are wack. However, by virtue of coming from the smae region, it seems cats have cast T.I. as being part and parcel of the same lazyness.

This is jus one track, where he happened to be wanting to put across the feeling of how ignorant niccas can really get if you want to take it there. HE does'nt use this same technique for a hundred other songs till kingdom come. T.I> is actually a lyricist. Dig deeper...and like I said, Cup of tea vs actually having listened like Zubz says.

Speaking of which Cash, u need to stop taking subliminals at the Last Letta on the internet. If u really want to say something put it on Wax, say his name out clearly and say exactly what you think. Coz, honestly the dude is sick with it, my personal opinion as a listener of both artists in question, Zubz is bout to pa** you twice.

[Bondizzo]

[T.I.]
you done f***ed up and started shit wit some real shit starter

     

More funny shit, that is straight up, a wack-a** line. Starting shit with a real shit starter ?? 8O  8O  8O  8O  You don't say.



Cash,
Check out this video i posted yesterday for some real music from 2007.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PPZ2-FVcM3M

its funny how the so called real music(who don't innovate) stay broke

[Ski Will]

You know what ,music is music,wack is wack,

wack is not music,music is not wack.

i am getting sick of that prefabricated shit.

i know niggas who make club bangas and still hold it down when shit hits the fan.BUT f*** CRUNK MUSIC.

Seems like i am gonna do some name calling because these people are f***ing shit up for true artists.

Sometimes this is why shit gets physical in this rap shit.

im all about throwing kicks and punches that make you go "OOOOH THAT SOME HOT SHIT"and these  so called Dirty SOUTh nIggers want to go and snap thier fingers.wHAT DOES FINgER SNAPPING DO TO  A NIGGER.Let me tell yall something for all you crunksters or wht ever yall call yourselves,YALL NEED TO SNaP OUT OF it.YALL ARE starting to sound like those LARNEY rich kid poetry sessions that talk about some shit that is irrelevant .
Its all love but f*** that crunk shit.

I Hate T.I man f*** T.I
Sometimes niggas just hop on the band wagon because they are trying to eat.Fine BUt f*** that wack shit.

AND who r those JOZI cats,f*** this shit is pissing me off,

YO 3rdwave is Jozi,Land MYNs is Jozi,TUMI IS Jozi,Proverb is Jozi, MR.C homeboy You're a Jozi Cat,

NOw those mother land crunk dudes callin themselves JOzi,who the f*** are they.

[Bondizzo]

whats wrong with ppl making music by not following the traditional route, music would be boring if everyone followed the same path

[cash]

LOL at SKI WILL!

as for Zubs! its no subliminal shots man! im jus sayin it how i feel!
its a funny and interesting album title!

 :lol: even the guys at jazzworx were laughing at it when they put it up on the wall! like WHAT THE? parallel what hheee!!!???

no love lost! i didnt like his 2nd offering! liked a few joints on 1rst album but thats as far as it goes! he aint that good! he overrated! he part of the I WISH rappers :lol:

yo mrC...the dude who gave the jigga example beat me to it!
u know when Jay says MAf***ER at the end of each line in a verse! same word throughout the rhyme! its still f***en dope tho! so whats ur point about using different words? naw man! READ BETWEEN THE LINES!

[MrC The Rap God Almighty]

[T.I.]
you done f***ed up and started shit wit some real shit starter

Im sorry ya'll but this line is killing me man.          

So basically, since TI is the real shit starter, does it mean the other dude trying to start shit with him is a FAKE shit starter ?  8O  8O

LMAO !!!

WTF is a real shit starter anyway ? If you starting shit then your starting shit, period.

Dude is wack man. Most of these new dudes are.

and with regards to using the same word over and over.I said it's cool if you do it oca**ionally or if you want the point you trying to make in that section of the verse come out more. These dudes overdo it, which is testimony to the lack of skills.


Real shit starter for sho.        

Yo Cash, can you up that TI track ? I wanna sample that line and use it  on one of my tracks man. Can even use it as a chorus.

Yo it's the real shit starter, *scratch-scratch* shit starter. On some primo cutting baby!!!
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[rob_one]

Roc-A-Fella forever, Hov for life
Debut's a cla**ic, first album four mics
I should have got a five, but niggas lacked foresight
But I don't give a f***
I aint't do it for the hype
I do it for the hustlers, for the ghetto, for their plight
For the struggle, for those who bubble white
For fly four-by-fours, ruthless cars, flawless ice
For the pain for yall to know what it's like
For everytime it rains forty days and forty nights
For every promise made that never saw the light
I'll get my own forty acres give me four nights
Four O's, a glock forty for the jackers and I'm right
Or the four-four would suffice
A fourteen year old to look out for the Vice
And you can sit back and can just wait for the flight
Voyeur takeoff look I've been strippin all my life
That's the type of metaphors I write
To let niggas know I was real before the mic
Before front rows had the fur at the fight
No PETA on my peter left some room for the divas
In a suite we'll meet up if you're wild for the night
On a rampage, champagne pours on the floor
For all those who aint make it here lost their life
Wouldn't forget y'all for any price
Not for no hoes, not for no ice
Not for no fame, nor for bright lights
So I'm a end this here real mean but I'm right
Forty-four fours muthaf***ers, I'm nice!

That is one ILL performance. I'm really happy I own a copy of that.

[MrC The Rap God Almighty]

whats wrong with ppl making music by not following the traditional route, music would be boring if everyone followed the same path

Ever heard of Company Flow, Dr. Octagon , Leaders of the new School, Das EFX, Hieroglyphics, Anticon, Atmosphere ??


Hip-hop was actually more diverse back then, than it is now. These cats are all doing the same shit now, there's no variety.

[cash]

yo mr C uz a real sht starter man!

hahahhaa

cmon man! ur interpretting it how U WANT it to be!

TI talkin bout niggas who wana start shit in the booth on wax, but when he see em in the REAL world, they aint startin nothin! cos he start shit PHYSICALLY wit a nigga! HE SAYIN HE A G FOR REAL,while some cats is jus G'in in the BOOTH! or on forums like AG(ps. threadstalker,187,evil pussy,the glitz,french.hahahaha....jokes). u dig! thats my interpretation of him bein a real sjit starter!

ur jus tryin to start shit
hahahahhahaha!

anybody else got an interpretation? :wink:

[MrC The Rap God Almighty]

Yeah, f*** TI, im the real shit starter, better recognize nigga !!!!    

nah man, i get it, the line is just funny to me though, just the way it's arranged. Yo, you gonna up that track so i can here it ? I just wanna hear how he spits that line.