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 >:( >:( >:(

I knew i shuda stayed away from here.... >:( >:($#@%^#*^&^!&*(^%$%
k IS mos deurmekaar.....


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well you refute my idea of race-castes being totalitarian but at the same  you use the collective pronoun 'us' as being able to accomodate identity, which is ultimately an individual premise (i.e you prove my point). even if you subvert black/coloured into positive concepts when someone else adopts them it becomes an act of imposition. look at the failure of negritude when africa suddenly became a mother and the BLACK WOMAN was capitalized. your truth or positivity will not be that of the next woman/man. no matter how stereotype-breaking they are, they deny a human dynamism that can't be put into words because it pre-dates law and language. im not saying we all act the same but these race-castes are a low ceiling because they dont emerge out of a vacuum. they are formed by human consciousness and human consciousness as it is now can never be divorced from society (and will therefore always carry an undercurrent of shit). im not so much talking about behaviour as much as im talking about thinking, which is where the unconscious comes in. this is where we are all irredeemably sick, just by virtue of being raised within this shit. yes, you can fight whats been written on paper and screened on mainstream media, but do you know yourself beyond what others have said about you, whether you go with it or you go against it. this imposition can only lead to a repitition of whats happened. history is built on this shit. its cool if you don't agree with me, but im not making any excuses to you. i was only explaining myself to those i might have offended because i feel i owe it to them. and i listen to rap but im not a 'hip hop head' because honestly i dont know exactly what the f*** 'hip hop culture' is according to whoever coined it. as for my drinking being an excuse? that's not likely.


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trust me, it's not the first time i've heard this come out of someone's mouth and i have also heard the id been drinking excuse. this kind of talk will get us nowhere but further from the goal.

your argument about people from "race-castes" having a low ceiling is really weak and essentialist. you a**ume that every person who identifies as black/coloured/xhosa thinks and behaves in the same way. well, clearly we don't!

the stereotypes, embodied in as you put it "race-castes", are what the system has fed us and the longer we believe and perpetuate them, the longer apartheid's masters will be smiling.

True dat.


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^its obvious we're operating on different levels. i don't mind though. hate me.

^^to the other guy: how do we stop believing and perpetuating what 'the system' (which means what exactly?) has fed us. and what is this goal of ours that my thinking furthers us from?


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I had a Black Cat Peanut Butter chocolate bar the other day.You know I never thought that I would enjoy PEANUT BUTTER in a chocolate bar.I mean, how did they connect the two!
Genius I tell you.

I wonder if the japanese had something to do with it.
Those japanese are so inventive dont you think.

I wonder if there's peanut butter flavoured muffins, but would you want to eat one is the question.
As long as it aint crunchy peanut butter I guess I would.
Is a peanut butter wolf edible?
and if not why not.


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well you refute my idea of race-castes being totalitarian but at the same  you use the collective pronoun 'us' as being able to accomodate identity, which is ultimately an individual premise (i.e you prove my point).

my "us" refers to the human race as a whole, not one particular group.

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^^to the other guy: how do we stop believing and perpetuating what 'the system' (which means what exactly?) has fed us. and what is this goal of ours that my thinking furthers us from?

how we stop what 'the system' has fed us is by not continuing to be racist c***s like yourself. you perpetuate what apartheid wanted you to believe. if i need to tell you about 'the system' then it shows you have no understanding of what being 'conscious' is about and that you are in no position to critique anyone on their level of consciousness.
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I had a Black Cat Peanut Butter chocolate bar the other day.You know I never thought that I would enjoy PEANUT BUTTER in a chocolate bar.I mean, how did they connect the two!
Genius I tell you.

I wonder if the japanese had something to do with it.
Those japanese are so inventive dont you think.

I wonder if there's peanut butter flavoured muffins, but would you want to eat one is the question.
As long as it aint crunchy peanut butter I guess I would.
Is a peanut butter wolf edible?
and if not why not.


i have in fact eaten peanut butter soup in south america. it's one of the best soups i've ever had!

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wow. youre amazing. you havent understood a single word ive said and yet you quote me so a**uredly. let me make it easier. im trying to explain to you that race is a construction and insofar as we identify ourselves within its colours, true consciousness is impossible. this is because of the reasoning behind it and also how it is transmuted into the individual. its effects and counter-effects and the way society functions to accomodate it. i believe we should get rid of the race-castes all together, you believe we should embrace them and (futilely) re-work them into your idea of what it means to be a coloured or a black. here you are speaking for the human race just like your 'apartheid masters' and yet you offer some simple, half-baked, ephemeral bullshit you call 'the system' as humanity's single defining adversary. thats extremely childish considering that you are not a pariah from society and therefore are part of the motherf***ing system. take a more critical look at yourself and how you do. and another thing, exactly how does someone go from deciding to stop being a racist to actually authentically not being one? think carefully about your 'system', think about people, and finally reflect on yourself. and if you still dont see any of what im saying then this shit's obviously not worth both our time.

and by the way, race is to racism what gender is to sexism. both constructions. now think about your use of the word 'c***' to insult me.


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wow. youre amazing. you havent understood a single word ive said and yet you quote me so a**uredly. let me make it easier. im trying to explain to you that race is a construction and insofar as we identify ourselves within its colours, true consciousness is impossible. this is because of the reasoning behind it and also how it is transmuted into the individual. its effects and counter-effects and the way society functions to accomodate it. i believe we should get rid of the race-castes all together, you believe we should embrace them and (futilely) re-work them into your idea of what it means to be a coloured or a black. here you are speaking for the human race just like your 'apartheid masters' and yet you offer some simple, half-baked, ephemeral bullshit you call 'the system' as humanity's single defining adversary. thats extremely childish considering that you are not a pariah from society and therefore are part of the motherf***ing system. take a more critical look at yourself and how you do. and another thing, exactly how does someone go from deciding to stop being a racist to actually authentically not being one? think carefully about your 'system', think about people, and finally reflect on yourself. and if you still dont see any of what im saying then this shit's obviously not worth both our time.

and by the way, race is to racism what gender is to sexism. both constructions. now think about your use of the word 'c***' to insult me.

you need some warm peanut butter soup. hopefully it will prevent you from saying stupid things that offend real people in the real world in future.
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ha ha. rest easy. theres lots to be done in your real world.


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bit disappointing though, but whatever, soldier on, soldier.