CHINA IN AFRICA, what R your thoughts?

[Phill Banxx]

I say all these people are in bed with eachother, whether it's developement aid from Europe, or corruption evok...err I mean eradicating packages from the US or 'no stling attache' incentives from China. It's all bullshit, if one takes a step back and sees the how ludicrous our foundations that make up society we wouldn't be discussing this.

We glorify western and eastern developement and for what reason I fail to see, Yeah yeah talk about social welfare, healthcare, and jobs and TV and mindless shopping consumerism and endless streams of tinkered gadgets non of which are actually prerequisates to what you would call genuine human happiness anyway. So I am to understand that everyone on earth is to be a mindless consumer cityslicker? Because when u all add it together after Africa is supposed to be developed isn't that what we'll all be? IS IT NOT SO NOW?

We seem to have forgotten that 20 years ago most of the world directly or indirectly supported apartheid because SA exported so many valuable commodities CHINA included, 40 years ago they shot us for speaking our minds in America, come the f*** on, you think these people have changed? THEY WANT DOH and DOH AND MORE POWER! Go read your history books and you'll see that the world a hundred years ago and the world today is the same just covered up with malls and satillite tv SO THAT U'LL STOP ASKING THE RULING ELITE WHY THEY'RE ACUALLY RULING. U think the US want to attack China because they're bad?

f*** no, CHINA HAS GOT THE LARGEST CACHE OF US DOLLARS IN THE WORLD! These heathen politicians and Oil/bank barons create wars so that you are too busy watching brown people die on TV and lemminging to work to pay for ur blood petrol and ur Geneticaly modified foods to ask if this is what you waved that democratic party flag for at election time. CHINA is a dream for the US neo cons, the public so supressed they actually agree with one child policy and whatever other communist/socialist mumbo jumbo they give their own people and let's not forget the mindless consumerism. They rank at the f***in top o da franchise chain PEOPLE!

WAR and CONFLICT IS MONEY PEOPLE, and since we were all so carefully manipulated into believeing money is power that is exactly what it is.

Everyday we hear about analysts from this think tank telling us what we should think about this and that
Financial figure this trumps statisitcal figure that and on and on, can you not see how everything is derivatives? We've built up these so called complex understandings of this world but it's all bullshit, what does it all mean? We can't even figure it out and that's why the mortgage and credit markets worldwide are crashing or changing, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT THEIR OWN BULLSHIT SCHEME OF NUMBERS!

The solution will not come from any one man or governament or peoples, it will come when you open your eyes to it.

TURN OFF THE NEWS!!! STOP WITH THE PAPERS, they are all owned by the same f***ers, it's all half truths sexed up with mainstream confidence.

[whitewash]

they taking advantage n gobbling up all the resources. Especially in Zim they came in when things were really bad because they knew they could take advantage of the situation to support their current and future growth...and what are they giving africans in return? security technology to help the zanu pf dictatorship continue oppressing the people? shipments of weapons? 99c corner stores with cheap, badly made toys and gadgets? (except in zim it would be 99million dollar stores not 99c lol)

[A pimp named Sarkozy]

I say all these people are in bed with eachother, whether it's developement aid from Europe, or corruption evok...err I mean eradicating packages from the US or 'no stling attache' incentives from China. It's all bullshit, if one takes a step back and sees the how ludicrous our foundations that make up society we wouldn't be discussing this.

We glorify western and eastern developement and for what reason I fail to see, Yeah yeah talk about social welfare, healthcare, and jobs and TV and mindless shopping consumerism and endless streams of tinkered gadgets non of which are actually prerequisates to what you would call genuine human happiness anyway. So I am to understand that everyone on earth is to be a mindless consumer cityslicker? Because when u all add it together after Africa is supposed to be developed isn't that what we'll all be? IS IT NOT SO NOW?

We seem to have forgotten that 20 years ago most of the world directly or indirectly supported apartheid because SA exported so many valuable commodities CHINA included, 40 years ago they shot us for speaking our minds in America, come the f*** on, you think these people have changed? THEY WANT DOH and DOH AND MORE POWER! Go read your history books and you'll see that the world a hundred years ago and the world today is the same just covered up with malls and satillite tv SO THAT U'LL STOP ASKING THE RULING ELITE WHY THEY'RE ACUALLY RULING. U think the US want to attack China because they're bad?

f*** no, CHINA HAS GOT THE LARGEST CACHE OF US DOLLARS IN THE WORLD! These heathen politicians and Oil/bank barons create wars so that you are too busy watching brown people die on TV and lemminging to work to pay for ur blood petrol and ur Geneticaly modified foods to ask if this is what you waved that democratic party flag for at election time. CHINA is a dream for the US neo cons, the public so supressed they actually agree with one child policy and whatever other communist/socialist mumbo jumbo they give their own people and let's not forget the mindless consumerism. They rank at the f***in top o da franchise chain PEOPLE!

WAR and CONFLICT IS MONEY PEOPLE, and since we were all so carefully manipulated into believeing money is power that is exactly what it is.

Everyday we hear about analysts from this think tank telling us what we should think about this and that
Financial figure this trumps statisitcal figure that and on and on, can you not see how everything is derivatives? We've built up these so called complex understandings of this world but it's all bullshit, what does it all mean? We can't even figure it out and that's why the mortgage and credit markets worldwide are crashing or changing, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT THEIR OWN BULLSHIT SCHEME OF NUMBERS!

The solution will not come from any one man or governament or peoples, it will come when you open your eyes to it.

TURN OFF THE NEWS!!! STOP WITH THE PAPERS, they are all owned by the same f***ers, it's all half truths sexed up with mainstream confidence.

TRUE! n all their money billions n trillions of dollars goes to their Swizz bank accounts,where they cannot be probed.

[illmas]

I know that this may sound shallow, but my biggest problem with these bastards is that they dont ship any of their hot girls this way.

Only the ugly unattractive ones with no a** and then they tease us by showing the hot ones with a** in their movies. that's just wrong.

Sorry, but that is a**hole like behaviour and I just thought I should bring this to your attention as well, while we're on the topic of the Chinese.

Carry on now.

Hell Yeah!!!

[OG Beezak]

Just a practical comment on the relationship between China and Africa:

Once again, (maybe it my incapabilities to comprehand such trade relationships) I see another exploitive relationship. Why:

During the previous week I locked myself outside my backyard shack.  . The worst part is that I have lost my whole key set. So I had to find new ones. My little brother, with his fresh mind, could still remember the key set number. So, there I was at AA Locksmith, looking for my M32H key. However, they told me they have the South African version of the key set and that mine was the Chinese version. So I asked where I could get one. AA dude just told me I won't find it anywhere in S.A and that there's is no Chinese Locksmith available. I looked around town, and there was nothing. And recall that AA are good with the matter, so I too didn't go very far with my search. Which meant that I had to buy a new lock for R145, and loose the R145 I used to buy my first lock

So my question is: how do you order Chinese locks and keys and forget about copies of key sets and locksmiths to fix those sets. Isn't possible that if you buy a Chines car or Radio you won't find it parts.

Thus, isn't China/Africa trade relationship exploitive to the ordinary African? Or is this a new business opportunity, which we Africans fail to see: i.e. Establishing Chinese Locksmith Shops, or establishing shops which will sell Chinese car or radio parts.

[afterbirth]

http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/1565

part of my quest to get blacks reading..

[Malcom E.K.K.S]

It doesn't take a rocket t scientist to figure out that China is the new leader of the new world ..Just in case u don't know, China's lending out crazy sums of cash to the US for the war against terror...

[afterbirth]

http://www.saiia.org.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=822:is-africa-changing-china&catid=78:diplomatic-pouch

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