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Ja at the end of the day we gat different listening skills to music....and that what makes it interesting.

Now as much as I don't want to sound like a hater but...I would really like to know what exactly fascinate u cats about Kanye. Don't get me wrong I like his early stuff material......but what is it exactly dat outstanding about Kanye, cause me personally I think Just Blaze is more dope than him

Gimme the reasons why u think Kanye is better, and I would also give my reasons why I think producers of my choice are dope.
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about Kanye what fascinate me is his ability to pick samples e.g. Alicia Keys - You don't know my name that's genius.
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Well that song originally is not Alicia Keys songs, the group that did that song is The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To you from their album Shame on the world.

I think most ppl like Kanye because of the records he samples. other wise than that.....nothing more. He's very good at taking the old records samples and put drums to it and then come up with a new song. To me that's Kanye and his production style. He sampling technique is so easy to figure....I think anybody who is into beatmaking can flip Kanye's style.  I don't think he ever uses the chopped sounds....he just loops and tweak the sample there and there. So that's Kanye to me.

My producer of choice

Pete Rock - this dude is a genius...he's sampling technique is sometimes not easy to figure. He can sample more than one record in one beat. His mixing skills is good.
Hi-Tek - This cats is extremely good...he can flip it in any style. Hi-Tek is the kinda producer than u can ask to do it in a different format he will do it for u.
Jay Dee aka Dilla -  This cat does not cheat on beats...he put his heart and soul in making a joint. His joint gat more depth, groove...and knows how to capture the best part in a song.

Nyambz is also on the list, but it sad because I haven't had luck to find the original samples that Nyambz 1nce used in certain joints that I like except Village Road...so that bugs me in a way
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 12:41:43 PM by Superb »
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Nyambz is also on the list, but it sad because I haven't had luck to find the original samples that Nyambz 1nce used in certain joints that I like except Village Road...so that bugs me in a way

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Well that song originally is not Alicia Keys songs, the group that did that song is The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To you from their album Shame on the world.

I think most ppl like Kanye because of the records he samples. other wise than that.....nothing more. He's very good at taking the old records samples and put drums to it and then come up with a new song. To me that's Kanye and his production style. He sampling technique is so easy to figure....I think anybody who is into beatmaking can flip Kanye's style.  I don't think he ever uses the chopped sounds....he just loops and tweak the sample there and there. So that's Kanye to me.


What u mean the song is not Originally Alicia Key's ? The Main Ingredient song is completely different. It's not like it's a remake or a cover version. Kanye sampled them, that's all. So all hip-hop songs then are not original cos they've been sampled ?

I don't know why people fuss about Kanye's production. He's doing it like it's always been done. Dr. Dre, the RZA,etc,etc they've been doing exactly what Kanye's doing and nobody had a problem with it. Just because Kanye's sample choice have been exposed doesn't mean he sucks. All your favourite producers, Pete Rock, Hi-Tek, J-Dilla have mostly used loops throughout their careers. Am i missing something ?
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Well that song originally is not Alicia Keys songs, the group that did that song is The Main Ingredient - Let Me Prove My Love To you from their album Shame on the world.

I think most ppl like Kanye because of the records he samples. other wise than that.....nothing more. He's very good at taking the old records samples and put drums to it and then come up with a new song. To me that's Kanye and his production style. He sampling technique is so easy to figure....I think anybody who is into beatmaking can flip Kanye's style.  I don't think he ever uses the chopped sounds....he just loops and tweak the sample there and there. So that's Kanye to me.


What u mean the song is not Originally Alicia Key's ? The Main Ingredient song is completely different. It's not like it's a remake or a cover version. Kanye sampled them, that's all. So all hip-hop songs then are not original cos they've been sampled ?

I don't know why people fuss about Kanye's production. He's doing it like it's always been done. Dr. Dre, the RZA,etc,etc they've been doing exactly what Kanye's doing and nobody had a problem with it. Just because Kanye's sample choice have been exposed doesn't mean he sucks. All your favourite producers, Pete Rock, Hi-Tek, J-Dilla have mostly used loops throughout their careers. Am i missing something ?


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I agree with TwoTeams and Peewee. I thought Electric Circus was wack. The beats weren't easy on my ear. I liked 'Be' and 'Finding Forever'.
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What u mean the song is not Originally Alicia Key's ? The Main Ingredient song is completely different. It's not like it's a remake or a cover version. Kanye sampled them, that's all. So all hip-hop songs then are not original cos they've been sampled ?

I don't know why people fuss about Kanye's production. He's doing it like it's always been done. Dr. Dre, the RZA,etc,etc they've been doing exactly what Kanye's doing and nobody had a problem with it. Just because Kanye's sample choice have been exposed doesn't mean he sucks. All your favourite producers, Pete Rock, Hi-Tek, J-Dilla have mostly used loops throughout their careers. Am i missing something ?

Okay TwoTeams let me rephrase it

All I meant MrC was that the song was sampled from The Main Ingredient and she based her song in what she took from The Main Ingredient and that is the truth.......!!!!!

Getting back to Kanye...it not about looping or chopping. Almost everybody loops...I meant that his production style is so simple....u can tell that there's really not much that being done in them.

My favourite producers, even if they loop, but u can tell that they've ran an extra mile to make the beat more different from the original sample......

I never said I have a problem with Kanye...All I wanted to know is what really fascinating about him that other producers are not.....!!!
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 02:18:29 PM by Superb »
Marco Polo - Marquee ft O.C.
Charles Aznavour - Qui ?
Fugees - Cowboys
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ths is crazy

to whum dus it matter howmuch mile u went flipping the sample?

what more do u need to do if the sample is already dope as it is? y ruin it?
heck sum of hphop's biggest cla**ics are strait-jacked loops....

dilla, pete, madlib, nyambz, kev brown, kanye, preemo, etc etc. all
sample, yet employ diffrent techniques. and that makes em unique.

Cant we jus enjoy the music for what it is?

or betta yet accept we all gat our own tastes.
 Live with it and move on.
f***, producers is a fickle bunch.

« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 02:38:46 PM by Myth »
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ths is crazy

to whum dus it matter howmuch mile u went flipping the sample?

what more do u need to do if the sample is already dope as it is? y ruin it?
heck sum of hphop's biggest cla**ics are strait-jacked loops....

dilla, pete, madlib, nyambz, kev brown, kanye, preemo, etc etc. all
sample, yet employ diffrent techniques. and that makes em unique.

Cant we jus enjoy the music for what it is?

or betta yet accept we all gat our own tastes.
 Live with it and move on.


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ths is crazy

to whum dus it matter howmuch mile u went flipping the sample?

what more do u need to do if the sample is already dope as it is? y ruin it?
heck sum of hphop's biggest cla**ics are strait-jacked loops....

dilla, pete, madlib, nyambz, kev brown, kanye, preemo, etc etc. all
sample, yet employ diffrent techniques. and that makes em unique.

Cant we jus enjoy the music for what it is?

or betta yet accept we all gat our own tastes.
 Live with it and move on.
f***, producers is a fickle bunch.



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