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For me its a total nay.

Not now or even in the next lifetime. I ain't racist I just prefer my own kind.

Haha,, that's the definition of racism right there  ;)


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For me its a total nay.

Not now or even in the next lifetime. I ain't racist I just prefer my own kind.

Haha,, that's the definition of racism right there  ;)


Nope. Sounds like plain old preference to me. Or does he HAVE to date a non-black person to prove to the world that he isnt racist? f*** what the world thinks. Do you.
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For me its a total nay.

Not now or even in the next lifetime. I ain't racist I just prefer my own kind.

Haha,, that's the definition of racism right there  ;)


So does that mean I am forced to like everyone. Just because i don't like someone doesn't necessarily mean I hate them.
It's their inherited character that makes me not to like them.


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For me its a total nay.

Not now or even in the next lifetime. I ain't racist I just prefer my own kind.

Haha,, that's the definition of racism right there  ;)


So does that mean I am forced to like everyone. Just because i don't like someone doesn't necessarily mean I hate them.
It's their inherited character that makes me not to like them.

No, of course not. But you are already writing off a whole group of people based on the colour of their skin, not their inherited character.


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here we go again talking about 'white culture' as though all white people across the world share the same culture because of the colour of their skin. that's a stupid racist concept.

black, indian or chinese men are all equally capable of 'puffing on cigars' and investing in vulgar hegemonising capitalism.

as for inter-racial relationships, what Naturelle said.



are you deliberately misconstruing my post? i'm using 'white culture' as something detached from white people - inherited by being coded a certain way by society. black and asian people are also a**imilants and proponents of 'white culture'.

come on, man. why are you so attached to the this term, 'white'. are you a 'white' or a human being?

this is some next level post-racial, post-cla** system, linguistic, consciousness shit.

get with the program.

Naturelle's statement is 'noble' and the 'right' thing to do, but it's flat and does not challenge.

what is 'someone who gets you' in the context of this discussion? we are not 'mere DNA', we are conscious entities. what is 'love' in the context of this discussion?

this is why progressive people stay losing. we re-hash the same cliched arguements and do not add personal insight as if we are robots reciting from a manual.

give me a personal reason why the way you think about inter-racial relationships is 'right' in concrete reality.

wait, that isn't what this was about, is it?
« Last Edit: August 05, 2009, 11:14:42 AM by the panic! »


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The thing with inter race shit is that they are white based as in the black part compromises and speaks english, show me an inter race rel based in a black language and i will show u a white person who does not think there are levels of blacks.


that is so true, never really thought of it that way..
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are you deliberately misconstruing my post? i'm using 'white culture' as something detached from white people .................................................. bla bla bla bla bla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla bla

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are you deliberately misconstruing my post? i'm using 'white culture' as something detached from white people .................................................. bla bla bla bla bla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla bla

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The thing with inter race shit is that they are white based as in the black part compromises and speaks english, show me an inter race rel based in a black language and i will show u a white person who does not think there are levels of blacks.this is why these relations meet skeptics, it looks like blacks in them.,u get my point the kids will be whiter than they black.its still not that cool to b black hence the mindset of some of our coloured breathren the kids will never see the need to speak black why?

And this is the truth.


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For me it is just silly to write off a potential relationship based on a person's race or culture.

I have no particular culture, unless you count drinking heavily and partying until you can't stand as cultural rituals. I doubt any of us here ascribe to much from our cultural heritage, except for the fun parts, like drinking sorghum beer and watching the reed dance (planning a trip to Swaziland for this shit by the way).

There are plenty of white girls who grew up in a mixed demographic. They really don't see race, as much as we would like to deny it and say they are just pretending etc.
I have white friends who are more black than me, hanging out in the hoods and walking around in parts that I wouldn't go without a weapon. I felt really embarra**ed once, when a white boy had to introduce me to dudes from my old neighbourhood.

So, I really see no reason why you should not at least try to make a relationship with a person from another relationship work. If it doesn't work, then so be it. I'm sure many of us have had relationships with girls from our own race also fail because of silly reasons. Only difference is then we don't have something as convenient as race to blame.
The race card pisses me off so much lately.

I generally don't date coloured girls, unless they are girls from a predominantly black or white area, cos then at least they don't have that narrowminded approach that pisses me off so much (like coloured girls asking me why I dat black girls and making disgusting comments about their hair, while my girl has naturally long straight hair and they all have weaves etc.). That's not to say I won't give them a try though.

This sounds corny and cliched as hell, but we really need to look past race and try to get to know each other, instead of focusing on bullshit social constructs and stereotypes.




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are you deliberately misconstruing my post? i'm using 'white culture' as something detached from white people .................................................. bla bla bla bla bla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla blabla bla bla bla

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don't you ever ask the big questions!!!???

Not really. Because i always end up being confused along the way.

But i think i get what you are trying to say. Its just that i dont think anybody on AG is serious enough to engage you on where are are taking the topic. Its just too deep. I just hope this doesnt end up as another race debate. I'll derail it before that happens.
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as big a liberal as i am, i see where motho, Baldi, Kelis, and briCK are coming from.

and they all seem far from racist to me.

the reality is that you just have to grow up 'black' in this country to get certain things. it's sad, but true. no amount of ideas floating in your head will change this.

the only practical thing to do now is to be about the kids and invest in a future society that won't repeat all this bullshit. and we can't do that by saying this is 'right' and this is 'wrong' using abstractions. we need to think analytically and critically about shit. the goal musn't be about 'moral' sense it must be about practical application.
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They really don't see race


I don't know about that. it is ok to be non-racial but how can u not see race?

 If I am meeting you for the first time then i have to acknowledge that you are a Coloured guy before everything else, it is only when i decide not to judge u becaUSE of ur Coloured that some sense of non-racialism comes into it.

But if someone says they dont see race, then they don't see me coz i am Black before i am a woman or ur friend or girlfriend or whatever.

I think its bullshit really, this whole "oh i dont see race" nonsense

just to tie it up with what Brick was saying, thats why most of the white people "who dont see race' date Blacks but learn nothing about their culture. hanging out in the hood etc doesnt really mean you GET what it means to be Black, not even close
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For me its a total nay.

Not now or even in the next lifetime. I ain't racist I just prefer my own kind.

Haha,, that's the definition of racism right there  ;)




So does that mean I am forced to like everyone. Just because i don't like someone doesn't necessarily mean I hate them.
It's their inherited character that makes me not to like them.

No, of course not. But you are already writing off a whole group of people based on the colour of their skin, not their inherited character.

Does the phrase "Black and Proud" make sound racist. Do you know our history? Do you know the differences beyond the skin colour in whites and blacks.

How we differently vibrate to most elements around us?


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here we go again talking about 'white culture' as though all white people across the world share the same culture because of the colour of their skin. that's a stupid racist concept.

black, indian or chinese men are all equally capable of 'puffing on cigars' and investing in vulgar hegemonising capitalism.

as for inter-racial relationships, what Naturelle said.



are you deliberately misconstruing my post? i'm using 'white culture' as something detached from white people - inherited by being coded a certain way by society. black and asian people are also a**imilants and proponents of 'white culture'.

come on, man. why are you so attached to the this term, 'white'. are you a 'white' or a human being?

this is some next level post-racial, post-cla** system, linguistic, consciousness shit.

get with the program.

Naturelle's statement is 'noble' and the 'right' thing to do, but it's flat and does not challenge.

what is 'someone who gets you' in the context of this discussion? we are not 'mere DNA', we are conscious entities. what is 'love' in the context of this discussion?

this is why progressive people stay losing. we re-hash the same cliched arguements and do not add personal insight as if we are robots reciting from a manual.

give me a personal reason why the way you think about inter-racial relationships is 'right' in concrete reality.

wait, that isn't what this was about, is it?

Don't call me flat. It hurts. What I stated comes from my experience of dating someone who isn't the same skin colour as me. So maybe it's tired because I've been having this conversation for the last four years of that relationship.  I try not to get personal on a board because it's an impersonal medium for me. If I did not articulate myself  and engage to a level that is 'progressive' then hey judge me right?
I don't see how you can talk about a relationship and not talk about love and respect.

For me to discourage inter racial relationships is like encouraging inbreeding and segregation.
Keep apart and keep spotting the differences.
Right or wrong? It's your choice but reinforcing what?



We are hung up on race... GIVEN...look at the past right? But what of the way forward?

Barack Obama?