Papoose @Carfax

[motho]

http://www.jhblive.com/live/event_view.jsp;jsessionid=BCCE0C631C3F9F3502CC98381B6D4916?event_id=20919&cat=live%20music&event_label=papoose_@_carfax_battle_of_the_djs

"American rapper Papoose's five-day visit to South Africa is more than a series of performances, but a cultural exchange with local artists performing alongside... join in the final performance in Newtown."

Venue Carfax
Date Friday, 25 September 2009

[Dpleezy]

Strange choice of artist for Arts Alive.

[Tonnes]

will be there

How much are we paying?

[motho]

will be there

How much are we paying?

a whole R80

[Killa Merc]

Damn, Pap's been quiet after all the hype and his hard work on mixtapes. kid was dropping tape after tape. Last time I checked he was beefing with Saigon. never heard of him after that.

[General Ratzinger van Stilzkin]

Damn, Pap's been quiet after all the hype and his hard work on mixtapes. kid was dropping tape after tape. Last time I checked he was beefing with Saigon. never heard of him after that.

remy ma went to jail and he hasnt been the same since

[Capt Schti]

What the f*** is wrong with you South Africans? Is there no one suitable for their job. You have a Jazz fest with washed up R&B cats and d-grade fusion bar bands.
I had already given up on the "Arts Alive" line up a full month with not a single interesting artist. And now they bring Papoose- a contriving mixtape rapper.

Why did I get a place in Newtown?              

[motho]

wouldnt a repeat of this be something to look forward to for Arts Alive

[the panic!]

What the f*** is wrong with you South Africans? Is there no one suitable for their job. You have a Jazz fest with washed up R&B cats and d-grade fusion bar bands.
I had already given up on the "Arts Alive" line up a full month with not a single interesting artist. And now they bring Papoose- a contriving mixtape rapper.

Why did I get a place in Newtown?              

totally negative vibes, bro.

[The Angry Hand of God]

What the f*** is wrong with you South Africans? Is there no one suitable for their job. You have a Jazz fest with washed up R&B cats and d-grade fusion bar bands.
I had already given up on the "Arts Alive" line up a full month with not a single interesting artist. And now they bring Papoose- a contriving mixtape rapper.

Why did I get a place in Newtown?              

Totally agree. Papoose is a C-grade rapper at best. They should have rather gotten a local dude with talent to take his place.

[Capt Schti]

What the f*** is wrong with you South Africans? Is there no one suitable for their job. You have a Jazz fest with washed up R&B cats and d-grade fusion bar bands.
I had already given up on the "Arts Alive" line up a full month with not a single interesting artist. And now they bring Papoose- a contriving mixtape rapper.

Why did I get a place in Newtown?              

totally negative vibes, bro.

It's all out there man. I'm just a transmitter...

Anyway all of this shit is a lost opportunity.
You have heavily subsidised program meaning profit is not the big thing here. You don't need big names.
You need to educate and disseminate ART.
I was lucky as a youngster I saw Sarah Jones, Steve Colman, dead prez, Saul Williams, DJ Vadim... so forth most of these I didn't even know but I was introduced. 
This was when the ART and music people ran things.
Before the City saw how this was good for the city and instead of encouraging it ran out the people who made this things happen.
I know I was in meeting a few weeks ago with the people tasked with running this same event- here I reserve my comment.

Do I come off angry, f*** yeah, where's the f***ing art, guv...       
                           

[motho]

You have heavily subsidised program meaning profit is not the big thing here. You don't need big names.
                          

Maybe that is why they are bringing a "contriving C- Grade mixtape rapper" like Papoose instead of someone who IS still a big name at the moment like Jigga or whoever 

[The Angry Hand of God]

You have heavily subsidised program meaning profit is not the big thing here. You don't need big names.
                          

Maybe that is why they are bringing a "contriving C- Grade mixtape rapper" like Papoose instead of someone who IS still a big name at the moment like Jigga or whoever 

So you consider what Papoose does art?

I think what he means is that the idea of exposing people to artists that they would not ordinarily have been exposed to and teaching a bit is lost. Instead we are getting a rapper who sounds like every other mixtape rapper out there, probably because they are trying to save money on order to pocket it.

Then again, I may be wrong and Papoose is the future.

[Capt Schti]

You have heavily subsidised program meaning profit is not the big thing here. You don't need big names.
                          

Maybe that is why they are bringing a "contriving C- Grade mixtape rapper" like Papoose instead of someone who IS still a big name at the moment like Jigga or whoever 

I'm saying let's get a no-name A-Grade artist.    

[motho]

You have heavily subsidised program meaning profit is not the big thing here. You don't need big names.
                          

Maybe that is why they are bringing a "contriving C- Grade mixtape rapper" like Papoose instead of someone who IS still a big name at the moment like Jigga or whoever 

I'm saying let's get a no-name A-Grade artist.    

good point.

I guess maybe the organisers are not willing to take a risk. I mean u can easily get people to fork out R80 to see a c-grade rapper like papoose but they wouldnt pay to see someone that they have never heard of ( I know i wouldn't)

 its a "risk" and it also depends on who your audience is.