The Germans can go and f*** themselves!!!

[Papa ThReAdS]

I'm sure Obama goes everywhere with ma**ively over-zealous security too. Does that make him stupid and insensitive?

This right here, is just stupid. If you have no idea why he in particular, or any other president for that matter, rolls with such a thick security detail, then i seriously dont even know what to say to you.

[Dpleezy]

phuck that i wanna see a sick pack mna

bladdy ignant Europeans mofo's!

I guess it would annoy people if I pointed out how many South Africans tell me not to go to certain hoods because of stories they have heard about those hood, despite never having been there themselves...

No it wouldn't (after all this warning is worldwide).
What annoys people is that as someone who lives in South Africa, you should know better.
No one has the business to say people coming to South Africa should be wearing vest whether misguided or not.

I (we) are outraged because, not only is it false, but we are the people of this country who wake up to make an honest living, pay taxes, and totally abhor crime and as someone living here 24/7 you should be outraged too, if not definitely not on their side.
 
It's an insult for someone who is basically is going to be spending just one month as a guest in our country to ridicule and silly our daily lives.

Ironically I was driving around in Soweto with a white German guy last night when we heard Robert Marawa say this on the radio.
We went to a buy and braai and the Chiefs match. He even disappeared for five minutes.                   

When did I say that anyone should wear a bullet-proof vest in SA (apart from the police of course)?

I think it's stupid that the German football federation are advising their players to wear vests and stay in their hotels, but I understand why they are doing it - they hear '50 murders a day' and they get shook. It's their job to make sure that their players are safe - not to make sure that they get a balanced and fair view of South Africa. They are doing their job over-zealously but I don't think that makes them evil.

I'm sure Obama goes everywhere with ma**ively over-zealous security too. Does that make him stupid and insensitive?

I was with a South African friend of mine on his first trip to London. He was blown away when he saw white people sleeping on the streets and begging for money in London. He thought everyone in the UK was rich. The point is, he didn't know any better until he went there and saw it himself.

Then you understand that their job is safe-guard their players not make lazy and insane sweeping statement.

They should ask the German consulate in the country for tips or the countless fat German chicks that visit Cape Town every year to get black dick...

Anyway Obama is the first black president of an openly hated country.

And there really isn't much I can say about someone who believes that white people can't be homeless.
Did he put a gla** to the bathroom door every time you went in to find if you guys shit too?

Playin'

There is a very good piece written by a British writer for The Guardian about traveling to the world cup. I'mma try and find that and post it.               

This one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jul/16/south-africa-2010-football-world-cup

[Ramorethetho]

[Capt Schti]

phuck that i wanna see a sick pack mna

bladdy ignant Europeans mofo's!

I guess it would annoy people if I pointed out how many South Africans tell me not to go to certain hoods because of stories they have heard about those hood, despite never having been there themselves...

No it wouldn't (after all this warning is worldwide).
What annoys people is that as someone who lives in South Africa, you should know better.
No one has the business to say people coming to South Africa should be wearing vest whether misguided or not.

I (we) are outraged because, not only is it false, but we are the people of this country who wake up to make an honest living, pay taxes, and totally abhor crime and as someone living here 24/7 you should be outraged too, if not definitely not on their side.
 
It's an insult for someone who is basically is going to be spending just one month as a guest in our country to ridicule and silly our daily lives.

Ironically I was driving around in Soweto with a white German guy last night when we heard Robert Marawa say this on the radio.
We went to a buy and braai and the Chiefs match. He even disappeared for five minutes.                   

When did I say that anyone should wear a bullet-proof vest in SA (apart from the police of course)?

I think it's stupid that the German football federation are advising their players to wear vests and stay in their hotels, but I understand why they are doing it - they hear '50 murders a day' and they get shook. It's their job to make sure that their players are safe - not to make sure that they get a balanced and fair view of South Africa. They are doing their job over-zealously but I don't think that makes them evil.

I'm sure Obama goes everywhere with ma**ively over-zealous security too. Does that make him stupid and insensitive?

I was with a South African friend of mine on his first trip to London. He was blown away when he saw white people sleeping on the streets and begging for money in London. He thought everyone in the UK was rich. The point is, he didn't know any better until he went there and saw it himself.

Then you understand that their job is safe-guard their players not make lazy and insane sweeping statement.

They should ask the German consulate in the country for tips or the countless fat German chicks that visit Cape Town every year to get black dick...

Anyway Obama is the first black president of an openly hated country.

And there really isn't much I can say about someone who believes that white people can't be homeless.
Did he put a gla** to the bathroom door every time you went in to find if you guys shit too?

Playin'

There is a very good piece written by a British writer for The Guardian about traveling to the world cup. I'mma try and find that and post it.               

This one?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/jul/16/south-africa-2010-football-world-cup

Haven't read this one, will now, the one I'm talking about is written by David Smith.   

[Killa Merc]

why isn't anyone asking where these people are dying?

aside from the World Cup (which i couldn't give a shit about) i think this is important.

(i don't really care about the Germans' fear. i'm more afraid of them than anything else. i mean, i'm afraid for the people who will be made to cater to them.)

@ D and Pyro are you really shocked that people would be offended by this, or where you just using that to springboard your arguments?

I'm not trying to argue that the Germans are right to wear bullet proof vests or want to stay in their hotels. If I subscribed to that point of view, I wouldn't be living in SA, let alone running a record label where I end up spending a lot of time in various hoods. I am just saying that you have to understand people's fear of coming to, statistically, one of the most violent countries in the world. It's going to make them act a bit irrationally. Instead of understanding their fear, our reaction is to say, 'f*** these cats, I hope they die'.

I don't know where to find a list of murders by suburb. I'm sure most tourists don't know either.

Crime stats are collated from police stations in certain  areas. So the same source produces national stats has them . i have seen this in newspaper reports after our annual crime stats release. So you can do some digging and get them . Anyway, my point was it seems an overeraction to look at geographic stats and compare them to where you are and decide to wear vests or stay in your hotel.

[daliq]

bet u when u a vistor to any country theyd tell u to 'protect ya neck' son.
therez a lot of countries with anomalies & crime high weighted stats.

from the brief probing into SA there was normal life, ghetto chefz, Businezz, partay, grieff mongerz & unorthodoxed gun positionz.
I bet u Sao Paolo or even in Jamaica or Haiti or er'where therez such stuff.
when i was a kid visitin soweto that shit registered way back.. the news/media corps must be the 1.
saw cars jacked, & mo explicit ish last time after 2K, when it comes to stats. we collectively creating this ish we discussin'
there must be places in Gauteng where they New Jersey drive your car & U xzit with a brief jog.
aint from SA Had a good ti'ne when I was thur with guys tryina shoot, jack u ova dime pieces ^2...only cause language barriers were not issue
'er hoodz the same' the media & stress ovablowz it , bet u theyd have a grand time @ the WC, hehe nxt

[Mad]

im tired of people who know a lot of things about our country more than we citizens do. im still shocked about how people manage to come to such absurd conclusions about a country using information they derived from the media, the very same media they consistently accuse of spreading false and delusional reports throughout the world.

its funny how these european countries isolate themselves away from such crime issues, its also shocking to find out that these ignorant german fools pretend to be sensitive to such forms of violence  wheras their country mothers one of the worlds racist and violent group of people [nazi's]

i simply call this hypocrisy, f***ing germans are the last people to be sensitive to crime. we have heard of many brutal crime instances happening in germany and what, we still f***ing go to that country without any f***ing problem and now when its their turn to come to african they go and start doing these things?

i have a feeling germany is trying to subbotage south africa and belive this....sooner than expected another country is going to announce the same so-called precautionary measures and in no time this will be a global thing.

the 2010 loc should draft a slogan saying "if you want to come to sa for the wolrd cup then do it and if you dont f*** you and your motherf***ing mama"




f*** germans

[Mad]

f*** germans

Hey Mad, you ever meet a German? What was he/she like? You seem mad... you are right about the Neonazi's in Germany though, they and their mentality are a problem, one that needs fixing, the German government went around and incarcerated 1000's of fascist hooligans with a violent past, before hosting the last World Cup, it doesn't solve the problem, but they have even taken such drastic measures on their own turf to provide a safe environment to host the biggest game in the world. Needless to say I think a lot of countries are a bit shook over the world cup, just type in Johannesburg in youtube and see how many violent reports there are, it's ridiculous!

yes i have actually, a couple of times, i even have a german dude's contact number on my phone, some dude named kien and i also know some german broad too. she attends UOFS, we met sometime back in 2007 when she came for a vist and we met again this year when she touched down the E.C with a couple of students. so the answer is YES

for a second there thought you was a german, f*** it, wouldve said the same thing even if you were german though, these people are nuts

[Mad]

No, I'm not German, I am 1/2 Dutch, there is a lot of animosity towards Germans there as well, stemming from WWII, but I don't think it is a great idea to throw all people of a certain nationality or ethnicity in one bucket, I mean look at where all that hatred lead to in Yugoslavia for example, a Bloody Mess! If people don't learn from past mistakes, we will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, I feel people the world over have more in common, then they do differences, it's just what we choose to focus on that's all.

i understand what u saying man, anyway whats up in yugoslavia? is there some killing spree there?

[Mad]

There was a War there 15 years ago, many died, it divided the country. The former Yugoslavia is now split up into Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Slovenia. Read up on it.

wikipedia'd that shit, damn, some pretty ruff stuff happenin over there

[Dpleezy]

http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/1158/German_soccer_team_asked_not_to_invade_Poland,_France.htm

[Mad]

http://www.hayibo.com/articles/view/1158/German_soccer_team_asked_not_to_invade_Poland,_France.htm

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