African Hip Hop

[WESTMONK]

Have an infuriating question here, and know very well there are people active in the local & African music industry on this forum, also regarding most diarist here are South African.

I notice there are several artists within the hip hop genre in South Africa that are prolific, if not well literate and business oriented.
Though they miserably fail with national & international distribution, with the privilege of having several independent and corporate companies residing in Africa's ,''biggest nation of commerce''.
My question is:
''why is majority of the local/African hip hop market's promotion and distribution of music limited to the country and the world, when foreign agencies show great interest toward the music and culture , yet can't  receive enough quantity of artist's material to exploit''?

[WESTMONK]

Really!? None of you moderaters and label execs or agent can't answer that question?
Isn't this the field of your occupation?

If that's the case there is no hope for 3rd world entertainers.

[watziznehmegin]

Relax dude, you seem angry, the majority of the planet is unaware of some of the great music and entertainment being produced on the continent, there are many artist working to change that, but with the dire situation the industry is in, most labels are unwilling to take a risk on an unknown artist from a foreign market.

[WESTMONK]

Understanding the dire situation the continent's labels are in, does not justify or  answer the question, regardless if the artists are trying to rectify a ''situation''.
Even if labels based in RSA  may not take interest in the unknown, foreign interests culminate towards entertainers and the problem still persists in failure of attaining material.

For example, Freshly Ground is a renowned band from this continent with an international following, they have a corporate manufacture of Sony behind them, which already precedes the company taking a risk from a foreign market.
Then when travelling throughout the country and the rest of the world, there is a minimal presence of their work with a strong demand, whilst they still manage to culptivate ears by tours .
Artists like Ben Sharpa and Tumi are also in the same situation, yet they expect recognition when there is a scarcity of their records on a quantum scale.

[WESTMONK]

Aight, with that said, I really never thought I'd say this but fellow Africans.

Please stop rapping, there is no future in our local industry for music if there's no support in our music infrastructure to grow, that's unless you willing to join the poverty line as majority starving artists. Remember minority make it  and few among many on this forum  will.

[watziznehmegin]

Whatever floats your boat bra!

[WESTMONK]

word up! shits  factual too.

[Last of the old AG Hittaz]

If that's the case there is no hope for 3rd world entertainers.

Unless you can break it in Europe. Positive Black Soul are from Senegal
and they're not only big in the Senegalese community there, the big
in the Francophone world. Nigeria's own Weird MC had been getting
play in the UK as well and most of all, if you wanna hear about a
success story of an African making it big in Europe, check out Congo's
own Kaysha!! He's not only big in France but other African countries
and he's hitting South America!

But why these people aren't big in the RSA? I dunno? Probably there's
some xenophobia from the music industry there?

[WESTMONK]

Glad to hear the perspective of someone with an outlook on the whole African continent as well ,and the music pioneering abroad. Aside from the emcees you presented, as I stated our most prominent, contemporary artists with acclaim are the minority.
Biggest concern  is the ma** collective of entertainers unable to have support in the genre, cause I would love to truly see Africa prosper.The sales projection of these performers is tragic, considering the accessibility of music has an injection of largely,miscellaneous foreign listeners, but not from this continent as a whole.

Africa is only renowned for music outside of the Hip Hop genre, with supposed wealthy acts as: Kaysha, Cesaria Evoria, Koffi Olomide,Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Hugh Masekela and Fela Kuti. Record sales do not stipulate the appeal or talent of  artists but determines publicity for unaware audiences to apprehend, which does upset me when our Hip Hop is shunned by its retail limitations.

But why these people aren't big in the RSA? I dunno? Probably there's
some xenophobia from the music industry there?

They are recognised,but that may possibly be true to an extent if mentioning Francophone or West African musicians, or when considering those particular rappers. It may not even be xenophobia, it may be the perception of talent from their judgement.

[LetsogoLaPlastik]

Africa is only renowned for music outside of the Hip Hop genre, with supposed wealthy acts as: Kaysha, Cesaria Evoria, Koffi Olomide,Ladysmith Black Mambazo, Hugh Masekela and Fela Kuti. Record sales do not stipulate the appeal or talent of  artists but determines publicity for unaware audiences to apprehend, which does upset me when our Hip Hop is shunned by its retail limitations.

Im a bit uncertain but the success of non_hiphop acts is mostly due to them giving a fresh, new feel music_wise.....hiphop_wise how many SA MC can be likened to US artists?SO to answer your question the main reason is the perception that anyone doing hiphop outside the States is bringing nothing new, they are ba**ically extrapolating on a sound that has been heard of/saying the same things that have been said already.

Hiphop in many respects is not considered African, if a UK citizen hears of some kidds "spitting that hot isht".....they most likely are going to think (My gawwds so these Africans are trying to be American too??look at the pant...."

[WESTMONK]

I hear you man, made some intresting and convincing points but  I beg to differ with you on this.

the main reason is the perception that anyone doing hiphop outside the States is bringing nothing new, they are ba**ically extrapolating on a sound that has been heard of/saying the same things that have been said already.

If Hip Hop from a third world nation outside of the states is made, in what notoriety would it sound extrapolated, if the production to the subject matter overall negates commercialism and insists on the use of English intertwined with African dialect?
Saying that it would sound reenacted is completely pa**ive and refutable.

[watziznehmegin]

Here you go rambling about how African Hip-Hop doesn't get its due, and how people can't make money with it, when you the one posting local stuff for download on the forums, your circular logic won't work here...

oh yeah... paste this in google translate and have fun with it, c***!

Ja ist gut spasti, geh schwanz lutschen, und halt dein dummes maul, du hurensohn. Du gehst auf die nerven mit dein blödes gequatsche, tuh nicht so als ob du ein plan hättest von dem was du da erzählst. Du dumme nuss, fick deine mutter! Du redest so viel scheisse, und plauderst blödsinn wie eine missgeburt. Fick dich!

[WESTMONK]

By the way,  I purchase product and place it on forums for lack of exposure cause of  it's viral potential.

I guess you surpa**ed the shelved life of an aborted fetus, you swine of a seamen stain.

Ja ist gut spasti, geh schwanz lutschen, und halt dein dummes maul, du hurensohn. Du gehst auf die nerven mit dein blödes gequatsche, tuh nicht so als ob du ein plan hättest von dem was du da erzählst. Du dumme nuss, fick deine mutter! Du redest so viel scheisse, und plauderst blödsinn wie eine missgeburt. Fick dich!

Save the jibberish for a spankin' youngin', while you gargle on my dick, like alter boys on priests.

[watziznehmegin]

Now your true intelligence shines! Have fun with your funny cock gargling fantasies, bitch!

[WESTMONK]

Arguing with an idiot surely may justify you becoming one, I will when you swallow and humble yourself to become content. You damn son of abitch!