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the biggest double standard and show of a larger plot at play would be if Zuma is not convicted after Schabeer was convicted partly because of a generally corrupt relationship Zuma.


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true... as the basis for his dismissal from cabinet & subsequent charges brought against him are all contingent on the "generally corrupt relationship" he had with shaik.

even more interesting would be if shaik was exonerated on appeal! (interesting times we live in)
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AND THE PLOT THICKENS....
so as we all know, zuma's charges were dropped as the NPA didnt have enuff evidence to put together a formal indictment. wow! how the hell did this happen        


Former South African deputy president Jacob Zuma's corruption case was struck off the roll by the Pietermaritzburg High Court on Wednesday.

Judge Herbert Msimang had also dismissed the state's application for a postponement of the case.

Delivering judgment Msimang said that Zuma must be treated the same as any other person, irrespective of his position in the country.

"His standing in the community will not alter his position in the eyes of the law," he said.

Zuma told thousands of people lining the streets surrounding the court building hoping for a glimpse of the former deputy president: "You showed that you know what democracy, constitution, judiciary and the law is."

He said the media had sentenced him even before the judge had handed down judgment.

"The media asked, 'What is Zuma hiding?'," Zuma said, pausing while the crowd booed the journalists a**embled outside the court and continuing: "... Not all of them".

"They asked me what the charges are instead of asking the State. They had already sentenced me."

He said the whole world now knows that South Africans cannot be taken for granted.

"I said I was innocent, I am still saying I am innocent, I will repeat it tomorrow. I can say anything I like because there is no sub judice now."

Zuma was accused of accepting a 500,000 rand (about 68,500 U.S. dollars) a year bribe from two Thint companies -- subsidiaries of the French arms manufacturer Thales International. This emanated from the fraud and corruption trial of his former financial adviser, Schabir Shaik.

Judge Herbert Msimang said in his judgment that it was evident that neither the State nor the defense were ready to proceed, and said Zuma had suffered prejudice from the publicity a**ociated with the trial.

"The problem with this type of prejudice is that it closely resembles the punishment that should only be given to a convicted person."

He said the state had "limped from one disaster to another" and should have investigated further before charging Zuma.

The State had also failed to take into account the legal challenges to the search-and-seizure raids on premises of Zuma and his legal advisers.

He pointed out that the prosecution's case was dependent on the outcome of the appeals against these raids.

He said the state's decision to prosecute was anchored on unsound principles and ill-advised decisions and it was "taking chances that the trial court would come to their rescue to admit such evidence."

Msimang said: "There were clear judicial guidelines available to the State to inform their decisions. There was no reason for them to take chances."

The National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) said it was disappointed by the judgment and National Director of Public Prosecutions Vusi Pikoli would study it to decide what to do.

"The NPA is obviously disappointed with this decision but... it does not detract from the strength of the State's case or the ability of the NPA to bring the matter to trial when the various issues delaying the trial have been resolved," said NPA spokesman Makhosini Nkosi.

Earlier, Nkosi had said that having the matter being struck from the roll meant the state could take its time in investigating further.

In high spirits, Zuma was joined by KwaZulu-Natal premier S'bu Ndebele, African National Congress secretary-general Kgalema Motlanthe and Don Mkhwanazi, chairman of the Friends of Jacob Zuma Trust, which has been drumming up support for him.

ANC spokesman Smuts Ngonyama told Sapa: "The ANC accepts this ruling. We believe that due process has taken its course and we therefore accept the ruling."

The opposition Democratic Alliance said: "It is a temporary reprieve rather than absolution."

The National Education, Health and Allied Workers Union said: " The court's ruling on the matter confirms our long-held belief that JZ (Zuma) has been a victim of a sustained political conspiracy."

Source: Xinhua

politics are very interesting. do u think zuma is innocent? personally i do believe in  the whole innocent till proven guilty premise, but i also do believe that where there is smoke there is fire. besides court case aside, zuma has shown us again and again that he does not necessarily have the values and the character needed to be a state president.(i mean, all his beliefs about sexual matters specifically pertinent to our country rite now) he may have strong gra**roots support, but will it translate into votes...votes that count. is this really some conspiracy to sideline his walk towards the presidency, or just skeletons from his past coming bck to haunt him. do you think he will be recharged. i think that the NPA must do a thorough investigation, then recharge him, go to court with proper evidence, stop asking for postponements, and let the judge decide, so that there can be a final verdict, and we can move on to more important matters like health, housing, employment, education etc cos this is becuming a serious waste of time.


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AND THE PLOT THICKENS....
so as we all know, zuma's charges were dropped as the NPA didnt have enuff evidence to put together a formal indictment.


not entirely true... npa had requested a postponement owing to the fact that there were ongoing appeals that would have a bearing on the admissability of certain info they have. the judge refused & said they should proceed on that day & also took them to task over the fact that sum of this info. being disputed in the appeals was included in the kpmg forensic audit the prosecuation submitted. the state indicated it was not prepared to proceed on that day & this was when the judge chose to strike the case off the court role.

i really don't understand why zuma's so elated: he still hasn't gotten rid of the "albatross around his neck" which is that he may be corrupt & anyway the npa (if it indeed is part of a political conspiracy against him) may choose to charge him closer to the anc nec next year & finally kill of any chances he may have of becoming anc president!
we can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark. The real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light
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struck off the role or not...the fat lady (Relo... tss tss LMAO)  hasnt sung hottdamnit! the npa could bring fresh indictents till the cows come home...ask fred Chiluba over in Zambia...and true indeed, they could be waiting to strike just before the ANC nec, conclusively excluding him from running for the presidency of the ANC and the country.

any zuma supporters here? why are you backing the cat. question stems from the fact that so far, none have been able to adequately answer this question...and dont come with that pro-poor man of the common man bullshit...he has never said that...or acted in a way that has clearly demonstrated that. and if anything, he has acted true to the middle-cla** character of the ANC...socialist my a**...and would continue to govern according to the same policies (ANC) that govern mbeki's action pretty much...minus the international credentials/credibility thabo has accumulated(blair, bush,jintao,putin,berlusconi, right, center and left he rocks them)...and minus the economics masters degree. ok he brokered some deals in the DRC peace process, but noone really remembers that.SO WHAT THE DEALLY YO?