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And the Hip Hop nominees for a SAMA Award are
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Wanna hear wat Sdudla has to say bout this lol
Best Hip Hop
Proverb - Manuscript
Zubz - Headphone Music in a Parallel word
Flabba - Flabba vs Nkuli
Tumi - Music from my good eye
Tumi and the volume...
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Thats what i'm talkin abt!
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Should be interesting.
Don't Gallo artists usually win?
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Best Hip Hop
Proverb - Manuscript
Zubz - Headphone Music in a Parallel word
Flabba - Flabba vs Nkuli
Tumi - Music from my good eye
Tumi and the volume...
that's a damn good list...
maybe coz I love all the nominees :lol: :lol: :lol:
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yawn
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Nice List, My money's on Proverb. I'm mad surprised Pro Kids not on.
And as for Tuks did his album come out too late or did he genuinely not get nominated?
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what is the criteria for judging, and who judges?
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yawn
ditto
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Doubble post hate that ish ... okay so now i must say something diffrent to ^^^^ Ok ...here goes ...snap,.... nothing... got no inspiration
wait :idea: .... No
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yawn
ditto
so cynical :lol:
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@Da Intrikate- Tuks was in the running....m glad with nominees and i thought Zuluboy was unlucky not to have made it.the interesting thing is that Morafe got nominated for Best Urban Pop Album.
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for real? good list.
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what is the criteria for judging, and who judges?
One of them is ma boys cant say who thou.... :wink:
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Deepea why r u not telling the people who made such a good decision?
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what is the criteria for judging, and who judges?
One of them is ma boys cant say who thou.... :wink:
when did he started judging bcos I was not impressed by previous hip hop nominees.
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Judges are usually industry peeps such TV producers. I'm notsure what criteria is used to select them. These such people are aske dto listen to all the entrants and plot their preferences on a rate sheet that includes, marketability, musicality, etc etc. They will select their five best out of all the entrants in each genre and depending on how many other votes they got from other judges, those that scored the most points become teh 5 nominees that are announced to the public.
I'm not sure if this is best system for the SAMAS coz one can't rule out that peeps will be lazy to go thru all the entrants properly esp those that may never have heard of and that might they be biased in their judging.
The METRO awards nominees are selected by the public?
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And the Hip Hop nominees for a SAMA Award are
drum roll
Wanna hear wat Sdudla has to say bout this lol
Best Hip Hop
Proverb - Manuscript
Zubz - Headphone Music in a Parallel word
Flabba - Flabba vs Nkuli
Tumi - Music from my good eye
Tumi and the volume...
WHT THE f***....U CALL THIS A GUD LIST f*** THT SHIT... TUMI YES... PRO f*** NO ZUBS IS JUST OKAY.... FLABA CUM ON NOW... ANYWAY I THINK THIS LIST IS f***EN WACK... CAN ANYBODY TELL ME IF THESE CATS SOLD MORE THAN 50000... & HOW DO THEY (SAMA) DETERMINE WHO GETS NOMINATED....ANYWAY THIS IS BULLSHIT ONLY 1 PERSON DESERVES RO BE ON THT LIST...
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DRAMA BOY- YA NE.... shame! ur angry ne! they don't select nominees from record sales....
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DRAMA BOY- YA NE.... shame! ur angry ne! they don't select nominees from record sales....
MEANING THT ANY WACK ACT CAN WIN A SAMA... I REST MY CASE WITH THIS HIP HOP BULLSHIT THT WE HAV TO GO THRU IN SA.... SALES DONT MATTER... WHT MATTERS? TUMI DESERVES HIS SPOT CAUSE HE IS TITE BUT THE REST OF THEM SHUD NOT BE THERE....I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE BEING MISLED BY THE f***EN SAMAS... IN SA RIGHT NOW NO-ONE DESERVES A SAMA FOR A HIP HOP ACT COZ NO-ONE DID ENOUGH
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Sales in hip-hop have never been a measure of how tight you are. If they were, Master P would have been the GOAT a long time ago. I think the list is dope.
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Flabba - Flabba vs Nkuli
wtf when did this drop????
Flabba is vicious on the MIC ...
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Flabba - Flabba vs Nkuli
wtf when did this drop????
Flabba is vicious on the MIC ...
true but I wasn't impressed with this album. it sounded wack but I do want to give it another listen though.
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Knowing how AG is, im kinda of putting my neck on the line here, but f*** it we all have our own opinions. I thought Flabba's album was DOPE, I enjoyed it thoroughly. It's definitely not Flabbergast from the early Skwatta albums, but dude still got it.
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MrC FLABBA IS HOT.... HIS IS KILLA ON THE MIC... BUT HIS ALBUM DID NOT DELIVER... THERE WAS NO HYPE BOUT IT... HECK ONLY A FEW PEOPLE KNEW HE HAD AN ALBUM... & THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A GUD ALBUM... DOES HE EVEN HAV A VIDEO(IF HE DOES I HAVENT SEEN IT)... f*** THIS NIGGAS ALBUM IT DONT DESERVE A SAMA PERIOD....
I AM NOT HATING ON THE NIGGAS HUSSLE BUT TRUTH BE TOLD HIS ALBUM WAS A FLOP & I DONT FEEL ANY OF THE TRACKS SO IT DIDNT WORK FOR ME......
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A good bunch of nominees, except for Flabba - what the f*** is Flabba vs Nkuli doing there? Train wreck of an album.
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A good bunch of nominees, except for Flabba - what the f*** is Flabba vs Nkuli doing there? Train wreck of an album.
GUD ONE ROB.... BUT U FEEL PROVERB SHUD BE THERE COZ HIS ALBUM IS ALSO LUKEWARM LIKE A MOTHERf***ER.... HIS NOT SERIOUS BOUT HIP HOP NO-MORE HIS BUSY WITH HIS WACK CHANNEL O SHOW....
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Didn't see Flabba's album anywhere either. Wasn't checking for it so it's cool. He won't win anyways...
Zubz or Tumi for the SAMA!!!
*starts fluffing pom poms* Watup B! :wink:
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"Flabba has two videos out, both directed by Fungayi Kanyuchi"
I see that our very own Draztik has tracks on the Flabba project so there must be some hot shit on there...
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"Flabba has two videos out, both directed by Fungayi Kanyuchi"
I see that our very own Draztik has tracks on the Flabba project so there must be some hot shit on there...
SO WHO PLAYS IT D...COZ I HAVENT SEEN IT ON SABC 1,MTVBASE f*** NOT EVEN CHANNEL O....& I WATCH A SHIT LOAD OF MUSIC CHANNELS....
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"Flabba has two videos out, both directed by Fungayi Kanyuchi"
I see that our very own Draztik has tracks on the Flabba project so there must be some hot shit on there...
SO WHO PLAYS IT D...COZ I HAVENT SEEN IT ON SABC 1,MTVBASE f*** NOT EVEN CHANNEL O....& I WATCH A SHIT LOAD OF MUSIC CHANNELS....
yeah,, i haven't ever seen it either. I never even heard to the project.
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My money is on Verb end of story, ufck what u think.
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SO HOW CAN THIS CAT BE NOMINATED FOR A SAMA...NO OFFENCE TO HIM BUT THIS SHIT IS WACK... MAJORITY DONT EVEN KNOW HIS ALBUM BUT HIS UP 4 A SAMA....
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Majority on AG means vokol. I know people who've been bumping this album for a while and they loving it. Shyt's been all over radio how can people not know he has an album out? Im going with Zubz on this one.
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I saw Flabbas video on channelo a few days back, not that impressive as it was very dull but the song was funny
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Well, I've heard two of Flabba's trax, plus that remix with all those cats.
i haven't seen his alblum on the shelves nor seen the vids.
I haven't heard any new Zubz, haven't seen it on the shelves, haven't seen any vids.
Got the new Tumi, seen no vids, listened to the whole alblum. I like!!
Got the new Proverb, seen no vids, listened to the whole alblum. I like!!!
I'll be cool if either Tumi or Proverb takes it!!
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What criteria are u guys putting up for someone to be Nominated?
i sense a bit of confusion on how a sama nominee is nominated. guys must first educate themselves 1st with the processes then comment.pela then we won't have comments like shelves and sales and videos.
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In repsonse to some of the questions raised on this thread, one of my favourite hip hop journalists sums it up:
I became really aware of just how bad this whole game is the other day when I was having a conversation about Papoose’s debut album. I was asked how I thought it would do, and when I replied with my thoughts on how I thought the album would sound, the person who asked me the question said, “No, I meant sales. What do you think it will do?”
Wow. I didn’t start doing interviews and writing columns to answer questions about that. I got into the journalism side of hip-hop for three reasons. I thought I would be good at it and I would get albums for free and before everyone else. Before HHG, I was working jobs to pay for CD’s. I never wanted to get into this so I could be like Mel Kiper and make a career out of making wrong predictions. Making predictions about album sales is for those tools at CSPAN. And at what point did everyone start caring and memorizing sales numbers before lyrics? I bet most “fans” can’t remember a line off Nas’ Hip-Hop Is Dead but they can tell you what it did its first week out.
Nuff said.
Or maybe to add:
For some, that number is important in the same way fans memorize the salaries of professional athletes. But think about how that ruins sports. If fans didn’t think about A-Rod’s $250 million, they would probably hate Mr. April less. But because they see that figure every time he comes up short in October, it becomes even easier to hate him.
Jay’s Kingdom Come was considered a failure by some because it didn’t go platinum its first week out, despite the hologram cover. It’s okay to not like that album for songs like “Hollywood,” but never dislike an album because it didn’t have high sales. The problem is the cool kids in hip-hop who like Hell Razah and artists like him would rather download the music instead of going to the store to cop it, where a generation ago most would cop the CD officially. If the cool kids can kick the geeks out of Best Buy, maybe this thing called hip-hop can actually be saved.
Shout out to hiphopgame's 730.
That being said, Headphone Music in Parallel World, is one of the best albums I've ever heard in my life. (And this is after I thought Listeners Digest was'nt really all that before you brush this off as some Zubz stan fan type comment. ).
Sales sales sales :?
Nelly's Country Grammar did 6mill plus.
Fiddy's Get Rich Or Die Tryn did 10mill +.
I never did think these were "dope" albums because of sales, they were dope because of their content. And becuase they had a monster like Universal backing them, enough people got to contribute to their "dope" sales numbers. If those albums sold 2 copies and I had one of them, I would've still thought those were dope albums, based on the sames things:
1) the content executed like a mutha,
2) how nothing else sounding like it when it dropped.
Talking about these SAMA nominees are wack coz they have'nt sold 50K, (not because of the content of their albums) is just stupid. There is no monster like Universal backing these to get enough people purchasing to get those "millions" numbers.
what is very stupid of note, is not having the business knowledge of what it takes to have a turnover of one million compact discs...(the actual numbers involved in the financing of the cost of production of the product, the above the line, through the line and below the line marketing, the physical distribution of the product), realising that when you weigh this up with the turnover on selling 1 million CDs at the current (already supposedly overpriced retail prices), and after the 14% VAT you're going to have to cough up in addition to everything else you've been invoiced..YOU"RE f***ED, & anyway, by previous actions, a lack of a thorough knowledge of the key business relationships necessary to execute your vision but running your mouth off about the same acts that are backed by the same people that are part of the possible necessary business relationships you'd need to foster to push your mill, but still thinking you'll just drop and because you're "the truth" you'll do a mill and everyone will love you. :? ? I can't think of anything more stupid that's f*kcing up my day more, on this day where I'm having a bad f*kcing day, than this display of ignorance that nobody says anything about.
To push the mill please pick up a book on how to build a company of your own to do this and unless you talking to Rupert Family members, or MIH Holdings shareholders-people with real paper, not your Bank branch manager-you've got a long way to building that company quick to get it to have muscle to do this, coz without that, it's not just gonna happen coz you think you've dropped a couple of mixtapes. That's just how it is because you're AFRICAN mu%herf@cker$. Nothing personal
So all I'm saying is, because my AG time is valuable, if you gonna hate, in amongst opinions of substance to ponder over, may it be backed by substance worth pondering over (i.e. more reasons than "I'm hotter, I'm truth"), coz clicking through pages and pages of bullsh!t based on personal fantasies you daydream about : as if you're the first genius to ever think of such thoughts, is clearly irritating me. Particularly today.
I shall now proceed to catch a much needed chill pill. It's Friday.
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What criteria are u guys putting up for someone to be Nominated?
i sense a bit of confusion on how a sama nominee is nominated. guys must first educate themselves 1st with the processes then comment.pela then we won't have comments like shelves and sales and videos.
T THT IS MY f***EN PROBLEM... I DONT f***EN CARE BOUT THE CRITERIA... THE FACT THT THERE R NO VIDEOS, SALES R NOT EVEN MENTIONED, LET ALONE NOT SEEING THIS SHIT @ MUSICA....
BASICALLY A SAMA AINT SHIT THEN IF SALES DONT MATTER, WE MIGHT AS WELL NOMINATE DOPE MCEES AS WELL THEN.... I NOMINATE MORALE AS THE BEST HIP HOP MIXTAPE.....I KNOW THTS NOT POINT....
T I HAV A PROBLEM WITH THE STANDARDS OF HIP HOP IN SA SO I DONT NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON f***EN WACK SHIT THT WE R FORCED TO DEAL WITH....f*** THE SAMAS THEY DONT MEAN SHIT IN SA HIP HOP COZ SA HIP HOP DONT EVEN HAV A BACKBONE OF REAL TALENT BUT ONLY A FEW CATS THT HAD THE RIGHT CONTACTS NOW THEY UP FOR SAMAS.... f*** THE SAMAS..... UP UNTIL DOPE PIPS SURFACE NAMELY ANVILS,RAS,BLACKLEZ, MORALE, MONOPOLY,NTHABI,METROPOLITAN KINGS, IGHO, DONNIE BRASCO, BEN SHARPA, KONFAB, DAMOLA, HAKEEM, D-COCKY, LANDMYNZ,MrC ETC.. & SHIT LOAD OF OTHER TITE MCEES I HAV NEVA HEARD B4......f*** THE SAMAS.......
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Nobody has said anything about the double nomination,,, thats like Hp Hop Nomination history in the making
Tumi and the Volume was nominated and Tumi - Music from my good eye.
It will be interesting to see which "Tumi" takes it
Im convinced that Tumi or Pro will take it but Tumi has a double chance and if he does not take it then i dont know who will!!
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ill be happy if Flabba or Proverb win
Flabba is nice ..msunu kanyoko if u dont believe me :lol:
"Like a white man in Zimbabwe u losin the plot"
"im all about ukgwiny 'buchopho bami jst 2 spit my mind"
"sweety le phone oyi spanisayo seykhathele cabanga nje u cherri ka Flabba eshaya nge alcatel"
"style sakho sifile njengo tupac"
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I ve heard Tumi's Music from my good eye- its a cla**ic! every song he has written is Word-cla** jus below D late great TuPac, 4 real!
I've heard 3 singles of Proverbs - nice! With his far-fetched punch lines, biting Golden Shovel n all but still a real MC.
I heard 2 Flabba joints, nice! But he was only nominated bcoz there was no competition- i mean i can't think of a betta alternative, even tho PROkid's album was really dope but i can't compare it 2 Flabba's coz i haven't heard it.
Zubz is amazing - he got betta: d Victor, not victim song is beautiful.
Tumi n d Volume- dope as usual- Tumi is consistent, he gives his best both solo n with his band.
VERDICT: Tumi has a 40% chance of winning d SAMA n he will take it. He deserves it mo than anyone else considering d talent n skill!
Zubz would b #2- jus behind d fat boy.Our own Rakim right here.
Last year i heard d judges were Lee, Kamza, Dj Kambu... something like that etc.
I would substitute Flabba for Tuks. Im shocked he wasn't nominated.
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"sweety le phone oyi spanisayo seykhathele cabanga nje u cherri ka Flabba eshaya nge alcatel"
OK..this has me rollin'.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ZuluBoy should b Tumi's #1 competitor(hardest)!
Zuluboy's album is equally a cla**ic -"no mater which angle u look at it."
I would substitute Tumi n his Volume n slot in Zulu. It seems like d judges forgot about him, i gues its marketing.
I still think hes a betta lyricist than some of em cats up their ie. Flabba, ProVerb.
ZULU UYE SABEKA!
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"I don't need a SAMA in order for streets to Honour me"
THis is the 2nd time Zubz been nominated right?
Anyway looks like there is a chance someone halfway decent will win this year.
Smart money is on ProVerb.
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Boitumelo MoleKANE the able supplier is gonna take this if the world is right & just(Whats touching MARIA)
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All respect 2 the rappers nominated but this is a
Shitty Line-up. :?
Arent these jozi artists only.
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ZuluBoy should b Tumi's #1 competitor(hardest)!
Zuluboy's album is equally a cla**ic -"no mater which angle u look at it."
I would substitute Tumi n his Volume n slot in Zulu. It seems like d judges forgot about him, i gues its marketing.
I still think hes a betta lyricist than some of em cats up their ie. Flabba, ProVerb.
ZULU UYE SABEKA!
NO AND NO TO THIS STATEMENT..JUST THINK AGAIN AND REPOST THIS SHIT.
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ill be happy if Flabba or Proverb win
Flabba is nice ..msunu kanyoko if u dont believe me :lol:
"Like a white man in Zimbabwe u losin the plot"
"im all about ukgwiny 'buchopho bami jst 2 spit my mind"
"sweety le phone oyi spanisayo seykhathele cabanga nje u cherri ka Flabba eshaya nge alcatel"
"style sakho sifile njengo tupac"
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MTSHANA NAM WAYEKE AMADYADYA....START SMOKING SOME GOOD SHIT COZ FLABBA HAS LOST THE PLOT.... FINALLY SAW HIS VIDEO ON CHAANEL O LAST NITE 4 BOEFATSI OR WATEVA THE f*** IT IS... BASHIN IF U THINK THT FLABBA IS NICE ON THT TRACK THEN OKANYOKO... LYRICS R f***EN WACK....FROM SOMEONE WHO HELD IT DOWN FOR SWATTA HE IS f***ING UP...INFACT THE WHOLE OF SWATTA R f***ING UP....THESE R THE SAME f***S WHO MADE SA LISTEN TALKING BOUT RAU RAU NOW THEY HAV LOST IT...I KNOW FLABBA IS HOT U KNUCKLE HEAD BUT HE IS DOING SHIT NOW & HE DOES NOT DESERVE A f***EN SAMA....END OF STORY LETS MOVE U WASTING MY ENERGY ON THIS SHIT.....
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Bashin Uqhunyiwe mtshana. 8O
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Bashin Uqhunyiwe mtshana. 8O
ITYA AMADYADYA LENTWANA RIP... HE DOES NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF GUD HIP HOP...HIS MISTAKEN THIS HIP KWAITO FLABBA IS DOING TO HIP HOP.....LISTEN TO MORALE ON SUMTHING DUDE... YIKAKA LE YAKHO...
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LENTWANA
ndiyintwana kuwe? :lol: :lol:
FLABBA deserves the the nomination..sorry 4 thismsunu kanyoko if u dont believe me
im SA hiphop's numba 1 fan
i listen to everyone from Skwatta Krap,Mrs Selvina ,to Zubz,Tumi & Proverb..even yo Monopoly & morale..i know who's wack & who's tight..i shud be the 1 doin the nominatin..anime ngentsangu
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"style sakho sifile njengo tupac"
that is wack,but Flabba is nice thou.I think it'll probably be Zubz that takes it and not cause of the album(cause its really not that tight) but just some other s##t
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LENTWANA
ndiyintwana kuwe? :lol: :lol:
FLABBA deserves the the nomination..sorry 4 thismsunu kanyoko if u dont believe me
im SA hiphop's numba 1 fan
i listen to everyone from Skwatta Krap,Mrs Selvina ,to Zubz,Tumi & Proverb..even yo Monopoly & morale..i know who's wack & who's tight..i shud be the 1 doin the nominatin..anime ngentsangu
IF U KNOW GUD HIP HOP U CANT PUT FLABBA & TUMI ON THE SAME LEVEL... I CAN C U STILL BACKWARD LIKE MOST OF EC.... SO MASIYEKE
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@Rip_the_jacker from the last time i checked these three cats below are not originally from jozi and moved up or down to further their career. if u going to jugde the sama according to regions rather than talent then we have a problem.
Proverb from kimberley
Zubz - from Zambia/Zim
Tumi - from Pretoria
and Flabba cd according to me is a Flabba cd and thats were SA HIP-HOP cats always get it wrong.when Mos def crosses over is fine cause its Mos def,but Mos def used the sound that suits his style and knows it best. But when Flabba uses comedy and the sound that suits his style its wrong.i trully think Flabba cd is good and even surprised a few judges i know.
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All of these dudes are worthy contenders but with two albums on, i think Tumi might prove to be too much for the other dudes. I reckon ProVerb will run him close.It has to be between these two.
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IF U KNOW GUD HIP HOP U CANT PUT FLABBA & TUMI ON THE SAME LEVEL... I CAN C U STILL BACKWARD LIKE MOST OF EC.... SO MASIYEKE[/quote]
darling u r so rite flabba is whack, he dont deserve a sama, and he mos def knt be put on da same wave lenght with uTumi and th volume
but plz bro dnt make this abt the eastern cape umakhulu wako if not u is probably from phaya so easy easy mntana!
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I didnt know Diddy had a double album on press play 8O
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P.Diddy and F.Mdiddy. lol
N E way, liked Flabba song. I think it's better than what i heard from Bozza and Nemza so far.
Gotta vote for Zubz this time around tho'. the album is insanely good.
Someday the Morales and Cones will get theirs