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Title: good hair
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 01, 2007, 11:44:13 PM
This has made news in the last 3weeks in the US.

Quote
CBS/AP) CBS announced Thursday that it has fired Don Imus from his radio program, following a week of uproar over the radio host's derogatory comments about the Rutgers women's basketball team.

Imus found himself at the center of a storm after he called members of the Rutgers team "nappy-headed hos" last week. Protests ensued, and one by one, numerous sponsors pulled their ads from Imus' show. On Wednesday, MSNBC dropped its simulcast of the program.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/12/national/main2675273.shtml

Dude came back & blamed his remark on Hip hop music.
Thats not the point of this thread... Well not exclusively anyway.

It brings up an interesting debate.

The age old debate of what is considered a beautiful African/ black woman?

Over & over again we are bombarded with images (what up Deac?  :wink: ) of black women with straightened hair. Weaves. Dark & Lovely Relaxer. Wigs.
Who are the universally accepted "good looking black women"?
Beyonce/ Ciara (?)/ Nandipa from Isidingo (?)/ Gabrielle Union/ Tyra Banks/ Hale Berry/ those Channel O girls (?)/ Our Beauty Queens etc. (Deac pictures please).
Do all these sisters not have more caucasian features? At least the hair?

How does that affect the psyche of our sisters? Are they conditioned to think that is what they have to look like to be considered beautiful?

When you look at the basketball team of ladies in question NONE of them have "nappy" hair. All of them have weaves/ relaxed/ straightened hair.
It looks like they too have rejected their natural hair.

How does it affect our brothers? Are we not conditioned by the same white owned media the same way? Believing that is what a "hot girl" should look like? If we think like that then surely that will cause our sisters to further regress & conform to said unnatural beauty standards.

Have we been conditioned to reject our naturally "Nappy" hair to the point where we hate it so much we do unnatural things to change it to look like the other (wo)man's?

I want to hear especially from the sisters.
From the brothers too.

Lets talk.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: Bobby Banks on May 02, 2007, 05:09:52 AM
Damn!This is probably going to be one hell of a informative thread!Let me start of by saying i have definately been conditioned!(excuse the pun)Its funny cos i HATE weaves and dont mind relaxed hair.i definatly hate the nappy thing too,but dont kno why!
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 02, 2007, 07:18:48 AM
Quote from: "mugabe"
Damn!This is probably going to be one hell of a informative thread!Let me start of by saying i have definately been conditioned!(excuse the pun)Its funny cos i HATE weaves and dont mind relaxed hair.i definatly hate the nappy thing too,but dont kno why!

We all are brother. But we need to "over-stand the mental poison" (c) Nasir Jones.

Letz hear it ladies & gentle-e-thugs...
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: TNGlive on May 02, 2007, 09:20:50 AM
I could be silly in thinking this, but maybe not. Would'nt it be correct to take this same line of questioning & ask:

1. Before the "other" (wo)man's fashion touched these shores: bras, pantihose, jeans, lingerie... These things were not considered to be things that bring out the beauty that the women already have. HOWEVER, by wearing these pieces of fashion, are our ladies denying their "true"  beauty?

My point is, the "weaves" to me are'nt perfomring the function of the woman denying her "true" beauty, it's just perfoming the same function that other fashion items are doing, and that's accentuating (sp) the beauty that's already there...I mean, it does'nt mean u're automatically fly when u rock a weave. Sometimes it does'nt work coz well, u know what I'm getting at....Basically it's not a denial thing, just like fashion goes in circles...Fros will be back like bell-bottoms once came back. Does'nt mean before they're back the ladies are "denying their beauty".  

When a brother is damn near gagging at natural hair based style..then it's the brother with some issues he needs to iron out.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on May 02, 2007, 09:30:37 AM
This hair shit is a funny problem, cos in the coloured community you have people in the same families hating on each other sometimes, cos of kroes hare.  :lol:

I have experienced girls who wouldn't go out with me because I dont have straight hair, and also ones that only want me so I can a**ure their kids have curly hair  :lol:

Personally I never liked the whole weave shit, just doesn't appeal to me. I dont mind dreadlocks or natural nappy hair, cos mine is kinda nappy too, as long as a lady keeps it neat it not a problem. Relaxed or not it doesn't matter to me. Just hate weaves.

One of my friends once rejected a chick cos she didn't have straight hair, she just happened to be one of the hottest and most intelligent girls I've ever met, so I find this kinda shit stupid to say the least.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: Bobby Banks on May 02, 2007, 09:49:28 AM
Quote from: "pYROKINETIX"
This hair shit is a funny problem, cos in the coloured community you have people in the same families hating on each other sometimes, cos of kroes hare.  :lol:

I have experienced girls who wouldn't go out with me because I dont have straight hair, and also ones that only want me so I can a**ure their kids have curly hair  :lol:

Personally I never liked the whole weave shit, just doesn't appeal to me. I dont mind dreadlocks or natural nappy hair, cos mine is kinda nappy too, as long as a lady keeps it neat it not a problem. Relaxed or not it doesn't matter to me. Just hate weaves.

One of my friends once rejected a chick cos she didn't have straight hair, she just happened to be one of the hottest and most intelligent girls I've ever met, so I find this kinda shit stupid to say the least.


Yeah, its a tricky one. I just hate weaves man! they are so artificial, and its even worse when the honey doesnt get the thing done right either. You see the shiney straight plastic hair on top with the grimey nappy locks at the back of the head...talk about contrast!!! But tng raised a good point there. Its not just the hair thing that is contributing to the whole plastic and artificial woman thing with the sisters, but their accessories and even sometimes the way they dress! It makes me realise that us guys are just as artificial in a sense. Could be very difficult trying to draw the line between keeping it real as an african and living the way we have been brainwashed to live. Sorry for hi-jacking your thread tate! But you got a really debatable one here.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: Blizzard on May 02, 2007, 10:47:53 AM
Cheesekop in ladies turns me on , its just too sexy!!!!
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: briCK on May 02, 2007, 10:57:17 AM
f*** nappy headed hoes!
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 02, 2007, 03:33:20 PM
Still no word fromthe ladies huh?...
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 02, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
BUMP THAT^^^
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on May 03, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
Day 2 of this thread & Still no ladies huh?

Where are you girls?
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: Naturelle on May 03, 2007, 11:18:58 AM
*tempted to up a pic of my beautiful nappy fro*

I got paid to write an article about this 3 years ago.
I say do what you please long as it looks good but personally I won't relax my hair, I've never had a weave, I just can't get myself to.  I was teased in the first few years of high school coz of my nappy do, I had these nappy pigtails all the time, still have a pic, this prolly led me to relax it  but I chopped off  in hair std 9 coz I didn't give a phuck what anyone said anymore, relaxed it again second year of varsity, chopped it off again and since then I've had my kinky do, tate doesn't belive its real tho.
I got that good hair, its soft and curly and everyone likes to stare at it on some is that ur real hair? It just takes a whole lotta maintenance tho.

I don't mind braids, keeps my hair easy to manage.

If guys don't look my way coz of my hair do, all the better for me, less pricks to deal with.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: briCK on May 03, 2007, 11:56:14 AM
is your fro bigger than mine? I was told I got that good hair..but I don't know what that shit means..So I cut my hair to stop these broads from touching my fro and telling me I look like a girl its really f***ed up so I stay bald haired..yes I know this is about girls fall back...but honestly does it really matter what one does to they hair..as long you keep it lice free.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: BHLAKHROZE on May 03, 2007, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: "Sensai_Tate"
Still no word fromthe ladies huh?...


sorry babes. loss of focus. the intention was there. it was just interesting to listen to the fellas for a while.

you now what. ive done it all. ive seriously just done it all. its been relaxed. coloured. s curl. no hair completly. relax and bob cut. braids. weave. curly weave. straight weave. and a great deal of experience its gained me. for myself. in my own little life on this particular topic.

and my thoughts. its just not good enough to base judgements of people based on thier hair. it can infact be a big mistake. where ive been. no hair has been the best and true reflection of ones character. take me for instance. i know that there was a time when i was not good enough for the scene coz i was the girl who at some point did not fit the bill. that the changes i was going through as person would determine who and what i am intrinsically. i look back using myself as the yardstick and say that now. ill tell you its nonsensical.

it may be about conditioning but not completely. yes some people may be drawn to long hair because its all they see. all they are fed through media. and thus what they a**ume to be the acceptable codes of beauty in society. so yes the pressure is there. with the a**umption that men like us light and thin and with long manageable hair. and not just beauty seemingly we are also conditioned into believing that certain hairstyles immediately allude to certain personality traits.

but in some cases people have choices. and people want to experience different aspects of themselves at different points in their lives. that to me is the bottom line. some choose may choose consistency and some may choose change. its only what people choose for themselves. and the motivations themselves differ. i do not believe it ALWAYS necessarily makes one girl better than the next. i think thats silly. and its limited. and thats the only angle i view it from in terms of how brothers relate to us in that regard. but then again people have preferences and they have a right to that. a beautiful girl is cool. with some kind of a hairstyle. she may be thin. she may not be. the mind. there is a mind aswell there. and i also feel that it would do a great deal towards women unfolding if our men encouraged that aspect of us. so that it could be a relevant part of who we are. to actually engage with the spirit and the mind. the most important question for me. is what are you dealing with. who is that person. i belive that is the challenge our times brings to us. to start choosing for ourselves over and above what we know. what our friends thinks is cool. what our clique thinks. what the magazines think (hey look. its nice to page through glossies and see pretty thing. and choose which ones appeal to me most and why actually). if we are to trully transcend then its in the little things. everyday. every single day. make your choice. just know why athst all. we are here to live and experience ourselves through our own eyes. as we wish.

my hair is natural now. and i love and appreciate it most deeply. i adore it. and im proud of it. nurture it. but i got here because it is what i wanted for myself at a particular moment in my life. and it enriches me. is a part of me. and it teaches me too. grounds me. i have found a spiritual wholeness now.
i definetly think a lot more could be done to encourage a love of natural hair. as a lifestyle choice. just so people see it as a choice thats okay and beautiful and worth making. but it is not the be all end all.


...i am not my hair. i am not your expectations. no...
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: VirginPussy on May 03, 2007, 02:06:34 PM
^^^well said...been pondering on the reply...bt refrained coz i was gonna sound like Miss Arie...anyway the galz with the nappy hair have spoken for all us at the nappy hair convention... then she picks up her fro
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: Original Syn on May 04, 2007, 09:27:22 PM
funnily enough i wrote  a paper on the politcs of black hair when i was at university... long time ago... anyway. to drop my 2 cents...

The war-zone that is black hair is one as old as race relations and is deeply entrenched within the racial discourse anywhere black people have been taken or went by choice...
Contrary to popular opinion, the afro is NOT an "authentic" natural do... any person who has one will attest to how much work it needs to keep it poppin.. it is a product of the black conciousness movement in the 60s and 70s in the US, black folk were becoming enamoured by the prospect of reclaiming black identity from the white man and were striving to define themselves with some sort of relation to Africa (just like always) thing is info on what is/was authentically african was thin on the ground and the result was a sort of artists interpretation of what an authentic african style might be.
So the question must be raised, what is an authentic style? Is their any culturally specific hairdo? whats the norm?
We all have hair and while black folk might have nappy/curly hair across the majority, you get caucasoids with kroes too.. what defines the styling are the products available at the time and the societal structure of the individual... some of us dress our plumage to be iconic and some to blend in with our herd,.... we wear "mating" plumage when we go out and we have "battle" plumage (often similar to the mating plumage).
On a personal tip as a mixed race brother.. the hair lottery gave me the straight variety.. now i can say right now that its a case of wanting what you cant have, cos some members of my fam are heavy on the nappy side and some got the soft curls and others got straight... and they all want the others hair... having had dead straight hair all my life, its kinda boring... its either long or short, its either up or down... and thats it.... i always wanted curly hair, i tried braids and cornrows but shit fell otu in a matetr of hours  (annoyingly, fewer hours than it took to put them in, f*** them cornrows hurt at first, that tightness is no joke) I always toyed with the idea of havin a 'fro... but that is never going to happen, i've made peace with it now, i wear it short cos that works for me... chicks and guys who are ashamed of they hair game.. them i pity... and there is NO debate... Wigs and Bad Weaves are f***in terrible.
Remember, the exact same debates surrounding racial heritage and identity are to do with hair, its part of us and is a mine-field all its own, the media says alot and most of it bad but we make the choices around our representation, including our hair... our influences are deep and can speak volume about how we think and how MUCH we think, so ya if you choose relaxed then ok, if you allow the media to make your decisions for you, then you're a sad sad non-individual who deserves no more than my pity cos you always choose your bed, everything is a choice, even living.
Title: Good Hair??
Post by: blak boy on May 06, 2007, 01:24:40 AM
the hair ish is funny and interesting for many reasons. Personally I find that i Dig natural (nappy) hair on chicks, all that tangled messy afro is dope to me, that's my ish, similarly shaven hair kicks my a**, gives a chick that certain look which i know she doesn't possess but she look fly anyway, short hair is the mistake look for me and i fall for it all the time.

On my person been rockung the same messed up uncombed afro for like 5 years, too dope, jus wake up, f*** up my hair and i'm out the door.

I agree with some of the posts, those stating that people do what they think is good for them, and those that acknowledge that hair and fashion is a fad and it comes and goes and at one point or another we all dug someone's hairstyle, even when it is not possible for us to rock that hairstyle.
hair is hair its dope, do what you want with it before it falls out
Title: good hair
Post by: motho on October 23, 2009, 09:12:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m-4qxz08So


I like the scene where they show him relaxer in a container at a factory and he goes "this will last Prince for about a month"  :D
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: motho on October 23, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
tyra without the weave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pisyysp24rw
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Tuboy on October 23, 2009, 11:18:24 AM
10 inches and more just like prono  :D :D
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: TATEguru v.2K9 on October 23, 2009, 05:45:42 PM
If hair is fashion then why is it we have always had to embrace the 'fashion' that resembles the other (wo)man's?
With the exception of a few weed heads & hippies hardly ever see naturally straight-haired women rocking fro's/ corn-rows/ dreads. Certainly not in the mainstream media.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Mrs Jones on October 23, 2009, 07:17:52 PM
Personally I'd love to have soft hair so that I can rock an afro but it's not. When I was growing up, my mother used a stretch comb on our hair because she hated chemicals saying "aningobelungu" :D kodwa every Christmas we'd wear Barbie dresses LOL. Every night we had to wash our hair with sunlight (which was also used for laundry and as body soap) then the next morning we had to wake up 30minutes earlier to a red hot comb fresh out of gas flames, sometimes, when she didn't feel like doing that, she would plat it. Anyway after my mother pa**ed, my sister decided eff that, she's gonna use Sheen, then came the relaxer. When I look back, the women in my family believed that hair was what defined a woman's beauty and that's what I believed as well. Even when I would get lice, my mother refused to cut my hair, she would go to great length to get rid of them. Nowadays, I'm lazy to care LOL I relax it for two reasons only, 1. because it's impossible to comb my virgin hair, the comb would probably break not mention the fact that it would be like someone is skinning my alive :) and 2. so that my hair can be soft enough to braid, 3 months later, repeat procedure :D

I've never understood why African American women who are so blesses with beautiful soft natural hair wanna ruin it with hair relaxers :-\ or hate on dark skinned woman, fact it we're all black retards.
Title: Re: Good Hair??
Post by: msdeane on October 23, 2009, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: Sensai_Tate
Still no word fromthe ladies huh?...

sorry babes. loss of focus. the intention was there. it was just interesting to listen to the fellas for a while.

you now what. ive done it all. ive seriously just done it all. its been relaxed. coloured. s curl. no hair completly. relax and bob cut. braids. weave. curly weave. straight weave. and a great deal of experience its gained me. for myself. in my own little life on this particular topic.

and my thoughts. its just not good enough to base judgements of people based on thier hair. it can infact be a big mistake. where ive been. no hair has been the best and true reflection of ones character. take me for instance. i know that there was a time when i was not good enough for the scene coz i was the girl who at some point did not fit the bill. that the changes i was going through as person would determine who and what i am intrinsically. i look back using myself as the yardstick and say that now. ill tell you its nonsensical.

it may be about conditioning but not completely. yes some people may be drawn to long hair because its all they see. all they are fed through media. and thus what they a**ume to be the acceptable codes of beauty in society. so yes the pressure is there. with the a**umption that men like us light and thin and with long manageable hair. and not just beauty seemingly we are also conditioned into believing that certain hairstyles immediately allude to certain personality traits.

but in some cases people have choices. and people want to experience different aspects of themselves at different points in their lives. that to me is the bottom line. some choose may choose consistency and some may choose change. its only what people choose for themselves. and the motivations themselves differ. i do not believe it ALWAYS necessarily makes one girl better than the next. i think thats silly. and its limited. and thats the only angle i view it from in terms of how brothers relate to us in that regard. but then again people have preferences and they have a right to that. a beautiful girl is cool. with some kind of a hairstyle. she may be thin. she may not be. the mind. there is a mind aswell there. and i also feel that it would do a great deal towards women unfolding if our men encouraged that aspect of us. so that it could be a relevant part of who we are. to actually engage with the spirit and the mind. the most important question for me. is what are you dealing with. who is that person. i belive that is the challenge our times brings to us. to start choosing for ourselves over and above what we know. what our friends thinks is cool. what our clique thinks. what the magazines think (hey look. its nice to page through glossies and see pretty thing. and choose which ones appeal to me most and why actually). if we are to trully transcend then its in the little things. everyday. every single day. make your choice. just know why athst all. we are here to live and experience ourselves through our own eyes. as we wish.

my hair is natural now. and i love and appreciate it most deeply. i adore it. and im proud of it. nurture it. but i got here because it is what i wanted for myself at a particular moment in my life. and it enriches me. is a part of me. and it teaches me too. grounds me. i have found a spiritual wholeness now.
i definetly think a lot more could be done to encourage a love of natural hair. as a lifestyle choice. just so people see it as a choice thats okay and beautiful and worth making. but it is not the be all end all.


...i am not my hair. i am not your expectations. no...

AMEN!!!! Because I co-sign you on toooooooooooooooooooo many levels.  I stopped weaving my hair over 4-5 years back because I believed it immediately placed me in the superficial box which I have always tried to not not a**ociate myself with.  but you know what thats bull dust!  but a question thrown back at you, should this not also apply also with the style of clothes we choose to wear, like Evisu jeans vs brown's & greens earth colours?



 
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Mad on October 23, 2009, 11:27:40 PM
honestly i thought someone would call this thread gay, im glad no one didnt, i hate gay comments


hair? ummmmmm....had a long hair a couple of times, tried this, tried that, looked great, f***ed up and decided to cut the shit outta my head for good and went for a brush cut at all times. it suit me well for sometime then i started developing hate for trimming, it looked whack and it sucked, so i went baldy all the way,. f*** it once i had cornrows, some dope cornrows, my sis di them to me. i would look myself in the mirror for almost an hour to an extenet that i would argue with the house women oftenly.


i hate artificial women, these broads is too artificial nowadays, a chick spends weeks with a weave on and you barely see her natural her with her natural hair. im not into chicks with weave, they smell like crap and they leave a nigger's pillow sticky with all that sof'n free and dark n lovely shit. shit iused to have chick who sprayed her weave every hour, decided to let her go coz i hate artificially looking chicks

n wtf is up with them zimbabwean broads, they rock the ugliest weaves, spray the most smelling hair sprays and wear the most oily and sticky make up, shit man!
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: motho on October 26, 2009, 10:43:39 AM
If hair is fashion then why is it we have always had to embrace the 'fashion' that resembles the other (wo)man's?

Thanks for merging the topics, really interesting comments from the vets, most are still relevent to this day.

If I look at my own hair, I keep it short because its cost effective, it looks neat and suits the shape of my head. but i have been thru the relax, braids, dreads phase but settled on short hair because of the above reasons. it has never really been about not embracing 'africaness', it is a matter of what works for u.

I think the problem comes in when you have little kids even udults (as Chris Rock says about his daughter) start thinking that their hair is 'ugly' because it is not straight..
 



Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 26, 2009, 11:03:12 AM
not enough examples of good hair in this bitch

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/bionicbrown/african%20women/american/Model5.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/bionicbrown/african%20women/american/44c50de7839aa.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/bionicbrown/african%20women/american/308zds0.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/bionicbrown/african%20women/american/2v0bml3.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q181/bionicbrown/african%20women/american/-56.jpg)

Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Talentless on October 26, 2009, 06:07:52 PM
I don't really give a f*** how anyone does their hair. If a girl looks good with whatever style she has...then goddamit she looks good.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: the panic! on October 27, 2009, 01:22:41 PM
i like a lady with 'natural' hair as in untreated and un-weaved - with a fair amount of texture. it's all to do with practical reasons i won't go into here, lest i give away too much about myself.

but i don't discriminate. i have mixed-race friends and white friends, with curly and straight hair alike. like, one of my friends, when i touch her head, my fingers go right through to the skull and it's this eerie feeling of like, a skull encased in silk.

that's cool, too.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 27, 2009, 01:34:12 PM
i like a lady with 'natural' hair as in untreated and un-weaved - with a fair amount of texture. it's all to do with practical reasons i won't go into here, lest i give away too much about myself.

but i don't discriminate. i have mixed-race friends and white friends, with curly and straight hair alike. like, one of my friends, when i touch her head, my fingers go right through to the skull and it's this eerie feeling of like, a skull encased in silk.

that's cool, too.

I already figured it out
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: The Mighty Loks on October 27, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
i like a lady with 'natural' hair as in untreated and un-weaved - with a fair amount of texture. it's all to do with practical reasons i won't go into here, lest i give away too much about myself.

but i don't discriminate. i have mixed-race friends and white friends, with curly and straight hair alike. like, one of my friends, when i touch her head, my fingers go right through to the skull and it's this eerie feeling of like, a skull encased in silk.

that's cool, too.

Nigger please. You was tapping white a**. Aint nothin wrong with that.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 27, 2009, 02:45:10 PM
panic be snatching up them art bitches
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on October 27, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
i like a lady with 'natural' hair as in untreated and un-weaved - with a fair amount of texture. it's all to do with practical reasons i won't go into here, lest i give away too much about myself.

Easier to jerk her around and drag her across the floor huh?

I feel you.

I don't care for any particular texture or anything. My current girl has a mixture of african and asian, so her hair is kinda in-between too. All I don't like is weaves. I agree that some women do look good in them and that  they can be done properly, but I just can't stand these things.

I prefer women keeping their hair natural, regardless of what that means. If it is kinky, dreadlocked, straight or whatever. I just prefer this. I find it less deceptive, if you know what I mean.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhL4BmzTU60Ni2vwt2
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Mad on October 27, 2009, 08:36:29 PM
i prefer chicks with natural hair if i was asked to choose, i like natural chicks simply because of being natural

on the contrary, these artificial chicks can f***ing piss me off, a chick with a god damn big a** weave can waste your valued time, i had this chick once, a uptown shawty with a model c school accent [ u know them  broads d when they think they got it all], she would spend 30 minutes on the mirror messin with her weave and whatever style she tries im compelled to comment or at least make an opinion and every time i gave her one we would argue coz i always said some f***ed up shit with an intention of discouraging her from wearing weaves

anyway, all im saying is like chicks to be chick, simply chick, have you ever seen a light skin broad with a brush hair cut? one o' those amber rose typa broads? mg god niggers is missin out on good chicks, instead they busy chasin around this sis dolly, sis ruby weave rockin low life broads


smh @ niggers who are captivated by yaki's and pony tail's
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Mrs Jones on October 28, 2009, 12:55:52 AM
*Sigh* hayi Andile, kusekud' engqinibeni kuwe.
Title: Re: Good Hair??
Post by: BHLAKHROZE on October 28, 2009, 01:55:36 AM
Quote from: Sensai_Tate
Still no word fromthe ladies huh?...

sorry babes. loss of focus. the intention was there. it was just interesting to listen to the fellas for a while.

you now what. ive done it all. ive seriously just done it all. its been relaxed. coloured. s curl. no hair completly. relax and bob cut. braids. weave. curly weave. straight weave. and a great deal of experience its gained me. for myself. in my own little life on this particular topic.

and my thoughts. its just not good enough to base judgements of people based on thier hair. it can infact be a big mistake. where ive been. no hair has been the best and true reflection of ones character. take me for instance. i know that there was a time when i was not good enough for the scene coz i was the girl who at some point did not fit the bill. that the changes i was going through as person would determine who and what i am intrinsically. i look back using myself as the yardstick and say that now. ill tell you its nonsensical.

it may be about conditioning but not completely. yes some people may be drawn to long hair because its all they see. all they are fed through media. and thus what they a**ume to be the acceptable codes of beauty in society. so yes the pressure is there. with the a**umption that men like us light and thin and with long manageable hair. and not just beauty seemingly we are also conditioned into believing that certain hairstyles immediately allude to certain personality traits.

but in some cases people have choices. and people want to experience different aspects of themselves at different points in their lives. that to me is the bottom line. some choose may choose consistency and some may choose change. its only what people choose for themselves. and the motivations themselves differ. i do not believe it ALWAYS necessarily makes one girl better than the next. i think thats silly. and its limited. and thats the only angle i view it from in terms of how brothers relate to us in that regard. but then again people have preferences and they have a right to that. a beautiful girl is cool. with some kind of a hairstyle. she may be thin. she may not be. the mind. there is a mind aswell there. and i also feel that it would do a great deal towards women unfolding if our men encouraged that aspect of us. so that it could be a relevant part of who we are. to actually engage with the spirit and the mind. the most important question for me. is what are you dealing with. who is that person. i belive that is the challenge our times brings to us. to start choosing for ourselves over and above what we know. what our friends thinks is cool. what our clique thinks. what the magazines think (hey look. its nice to page through glossies and see pretty thing. and choose which ones appeal to me most and why actually). if we are to trully transcend then its in the little things. everyday. every single day. make your choice. just know why athst all. we are here to live and experience ourselves through our own eyes. as we wish.

my hair is natural now. and i love and appreciate it most deeply. i adore it. and im proud of it. nurture it. but i got here because it is what i wanted for myself at a particular moment in my life. and it enriches me. is a part of me. and it teaches me too. grounds me. i have found a spiritual wholeness now.
i definetly think a lot more could be done to encourage a love of natural hair. as a lifestyle choice. just so people see it as a choice thats okay and beautiful and worth making. but it is not the be all end all.


...i am not my hair. i am not your expectations. no...

AMEN!!!! Because I co-sign you on toooooooooooooooooooo many levels.  I stopped weaving my hair over 4-5 years back because I believed it immediately placed me in the superficial box which I have always tried to not not a**ociate myself with.  but you know what thats bull dust!  but a question thrown back at you, should this not also apply also with the style of clothes we choose to wear, like Evisu jeans vs brown's & greens earth colours?

...is this thrown back at me? sorry ms deane i hadnt seen this til now babes. didnt realise we were in conversation somewhat.

what you wear?! ag man who cares babes. a person should wear whatever they want. we just need to stop thinking outwardly symbols are the be all end all in terms of constituting who you are. the end. its just not enough. its a flexible part of. not all. wearing browns and greens doesnt make you any more of anything as is so for your choice of jeans. i mean really. i guess in my personal opinion, when i was younger i went through the phase of thinking that, because of people, spaces etc etc you know the deal. but i realise now that, actually, you could spend your whole life trying and STILL be confused into boxes that have nothing to do with you. so you may aswell just do yourself the favour and get on with it from the get go. people grow into themselves in different ways. at different times aswell. the thing is though, even with choice, dont get stuck into it. its all just a fluid experiencing, trying, changing, be-ing. i just think maybe really the most important aspect always, is the why. you choose. the question is why. what informs it all and why. what choice are you making, why, does it sit with you, why. are you aware of the choices you are making, are they just statements, attempts at something. you just get to the point where you realise it doesnt actually matter hey. really in the bigger scheme of things, its who you are, its who you are.

turns out its not that serious and we are of that 'complex simplicity' (a realisation that could have saved us a whooole lot of trouble in our youth, im telling you!)

growing up is the shyt.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: BHLAKHROZE on October 28, 2009, 02:00:12 AM
deacon, i find your signature upsetting my mans.

makes this place uncomfortable for me.
Title: Re: good hair
Post by: Mad on October 28, 2009, 01:05:55 PM
*Sigh* hayi Andile, kusekud' engqinibeni kuwe.

yhea i know, thats the  reason why i chose not to waste my life experimenting things other than nature itself, for the time being i prefer to keep things simple by enjoying the fruits of nature, f*** the other side, im not gonna waste my life chasing around wigs and all that. leave a nigger alone with his jerry curl n shit. as much dumb as iam [as u a**ume] im still copin broads hot enough to be your role models n shit. i still get love when i hit skipper clubs. so f*** a chick rockin a weave and at the same time, big ups to a chick rockin a weave, do ya thang, i understand your choice, you failed ta impressing men with your natural self and decided to go artificial with all them weaves n shit.