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Title: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on December 10, 2008, 01:45:30 PM
So they were works in progress; blueprints so to speak?

Right. Then what I did was, a lot of the material, I changed production. Conceptually I wrote the same song in a different way. It was the same concept of songs in a different way. I couldn’t put the two songs on one album because they are conveying the same message, so I had to pick which ones I wanted to present to the public.

But you’re not giving us 2007 material right?

No its not, but the concept of what’s being conveyed in the actual music is well thought about. When you buy music from Eminem and Dr. Dre the least amount of time you hearing was something that was worked on for months; 5-6 months at a minimum. They can spend that long. They don’t spend that long actually on each song. Em could make material a year ago and be putting it out right now and generate interest because he’s been gone two years. If you listen to Hip-hop right now, there isn’t a lot of interesting things goin’ on. I look at it and I don’t even see—like I could still see things from a fan’s perspective, or at least I’d like to think I could still see it from that perspective, but there is no music out that makes me feel like “Damn I wish I made that record.” “I Get Money,” was one of those records that every rapper wish they had.
I make those records that I think Hip-hop artist would generally wish that they would’ve made that or say, “If I had that [beat], I would’ve gotten busy on that.” It may not actually be what I’m sayin’, it may be the production.

So there isn’t another record since Curtis that you’ve heard and wished you had that?

Nah, I can pa**. There was good music that came out, but not stuff that made me feel like “I wish I had that.”


Not even “A Milli”?

Nah. I mean it’s a good song. That “A Milli” song is a good record; but it didn’t feel like that to me. There wasn’t enough melody in the production of that record to make me feel like that, because the record was repetitive goin’, “A milli, a milli, a milli.” It wasn’t melodic enough for me to feel that way about it. I actually didn’t understand that record at first. I didn’t understand why people where excited about it. When an artist has momentum then the public will give anything that he presents to them a shot and the system will support it 100 percent. And if people are conditioned at the moment to feel like what he’s giving is good, they’ll go for it.


Have you ever put any thought into ghost writing hit records for other artists?

I won’t give my material away anymore.

It’s not exactly giving it away, I’m sure your services don’t come cheap.

Yeah, but even if I make a profit off of it, I won’t do it anymore. If it ain’t something that I’m pa**ionate about and wanna be on it, I’ll leave it playin’ in my house. I’ve created people’s entire careers based on me doin’ that and they give me their a** to kiss.

You mean The Game?

That, Buck’s project. And Game’s not really a big problem, he’s not a person I have a big pa**ion for, because I don’t even know him. I learned him after the fall out. I’ve only worked with Game six days, because I wrote everything that he used [on his album] before he got there. He was in the studio for a year with Dre before I got there. They had time to establish some type of relationship.

Kinda like you and Jam Master Jay?

People ask who was the most influential person in my career and I say Jam Master Jay was for being around in my infant stages. Of course he had his own personal gain in mind, I was an artist, I was an investment at that point. Without putting actual money into me, his time was the biggest investment. He was around me while I was developing my song structure. I could rhyme. The artist that you look at in Fight Klub they are some dope rappers. I look at them like their punch lines are crazy. Tell them to write a song and they can’t write a song to save their f***in’ life.

Like Canibus?

Canibus was a talented writer; LL’s consistency destroyed him. Canibus is somewhere writing a really good verse right now. ;D ;D
Yeah a verse!

He’s always delivered those songs. If you look at Game, Game is a talented rapper; he’s not a good songwriter. If you throw him on a track like “One Blood” that got the chorus built-in, he’ll deliver. He just delivered with Lil Wayne on “My life.” But tell him to write that song himself, he’s gonna write “Strip Club,” when he used to be a stripper and it’s not gonna connect to the public.
The G-Unit roster was flooded at one point. Now it seems you’ve scaled back drastically. Why?

It’s just like every other company that you seen. You remember No Limit? You remember how many people were a part of No Limit? Remember Cash Money? Remember how many artists were there? Remember Bad Boy? Remember Death Row? It’s happened before; it’s not something that’s new. You get people that develop their own direction in life; they wanna go to different spaces and be in a different position.

So are you ever going to look to add new artists to G-Unit?

Yeah, I mean when you can identify with someone else’s talent and have earned enough credibility for another company to grant you a subsidiary position of course I’m gonna—ya know find the right thing. It’s interesting even [XXL’s 10 Freshman cover] is a reflection of the climate.

We’d like to think so. Is it true that you’re looking to sign Cory Gunz?

Well you know I’ve met with his father a while ago. But I haven’t actually considered signing Cory. Yayo decided to work with him and Ransom on “Shoot A Nigga’s Face Off.” I think he’s a talented writer. I’m not sure they’ll buy the real aggressive stuff from him if there is no Tony Yayo or Ransom; but he can write that as well if not better than a lot of artists. Think about this, you got a lot talented writers out there. You have people that won’t ever get a shot that got it right now. The problem with hip-hop music is they’ve seen it simplified to the point where everyone thinks that they can do it, so when people look at you they just don’t enjoy themselves. They’re watching from a critic’s perspective.

Because they feel like they deserve that spot.

Right. And there it goes. So you got the general public telling you how you should do it when you should actually be the expert. I sold over 36 million records, so who the f***ing expert? Me I’m the expert. -Rob Markman

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Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: That Bastard Crook on December 10, 2008, 01:55:54 PM
f*** Da Fif. Runnin' around wid da f***in' NYPD an' yet still claimin' gangster status. f***in' snitch-a** nigga.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Trinidad-Hux on December 10, 2008, 01:56:12 PM
Good looks Jack. Enjoyed reading this. Fif still taking shots
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: DaT NiGGa P-DuB on December 10, 2008, 02:04:58 PM
Aint no Fif fan... but i dont think he is lying about A Milli- at first i was also confused as to how this song was hot...but somehow it caught on!
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on December 10, 2008, 02:14:35 PM
cosign fiddy
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Tuboy on December 10, 2008, 02:18:33 PM
cosign fiddy

LOL
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: That Bastard Crook on December 10, 2008, 02:33:26 PM
Ayo Barack, ya avy's straight killin' me man. So when you hit da club you be makin' it rain huh?
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on December 10, 2008, 02:34:46 PM
cosign fiddy

SAME HERE. I don't see hating there. Just opinions.

For a change he isn't talking shit.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Anthony on December 10, 2008, 03:12:57 PM
co-sign fiddy.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Tuboy on December 10, 2008, 03:21:19 PM
So as it stands the title should read 50 @last speak the truth!
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Mprofeti the Radical Process on December 10, 2008, 03:30:20 PM
Although i hate to say it but 50 makes sense...
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: cash on December 10, 2008, 03:44:52 PM
50 has always made a lot of sense in his interviews. I think he is a great thinker in the game and he is good at "reading" people and situations.

I dont think he will do that well though on his new album if he is going to talk greasy about lil wayne. let the boy shine, its his turn now.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Dpleezy on December 10, 2008, 04:46:14 PM
Yeah,,, have to agree. 50 actually talks a lot of sense in that interview. As the biggest hip hop money earner of 2008 I think he has earned the right to say whatever he wants about whoever he wants. He's not trying to kill Weezy's shine, he's just giving his opinion.

So we all agree,,, 50 makes 'cents'  ;D
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: That Bastard Crook on December 10, 2008, 05:31:02 PM
Yeah,,, have to agree. 50 actually talks a lot of sense in that interview. As the biggest hip hop money earner of 2008 I think he has earned the right to say whatever he wants about whoever he wants. He's not trying to kill Weezy's shine, he's just giving his opinion.

So we all agree,,, 50 makes 'cents'  ;D

No we don't, where da f*** does Da Fif get off talking about Da Game is just a talented rapper and not a good songwriter? Bitch-a** jealousy right there. Coz a matter of fact the Game has gone on to great commercial and critical success WITHOUT Da fIf or The Doc.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Thornz on December 10, 2008, 05:42:30 PM

No we don't, where da f*** does Da Fif get off talking about Da Game is just a talented rapper and not a good songwriter?

truth though, the Game moulded his sound 'round fiddy's hooks...as a lyricist he's undoubtedly lightyears ahead of fiddy,but c'mon now, u don't get onto any pop chart without a catchy jingle and that's sumn fiddy has perfected
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: That Bastard Crook on December 10, 2008, 05:49:04 PM

No we don't, where da f*** does Da Fif get off talking about Da Game is just a talented rapper and not a good songwriter?

truth though, the Game moulded his sound 'round fiddy's hooks...as a lyricist he's undoubtedly lightyears ahead of fiddy,but c'mon now, u don't get onto any pop chart without a catchy jingle and that's sumn fiddy has perfected

Granted, he may have got the hook game from Da Fif, but by the same token Jigga sound completely different before Da Wu, Nas and Biggie came out. Da Fif himself sounded completely different before The Dirty South started locking shit down. So who's biting who?
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Thornz on December 10, 2008, 05:57:22 PM
 ??? confused. well, umhh..u see...I cant really respond to that one, it's gone waaaay outa my juristriction so...Cash?
*scurries back to his reggae records
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: That Bastard Crook on December 10, 2008, 06:02:58 PM
Example, listen to Da Fif on "Rowdy Rowdy" or How To Rob" or on the Soundtrack of "The Boiler Room" and compare that with Fif's youngest shit out. Or compare Jigga's freestyle (on some Fu-Schnickens tip) with Big L circa '93 and compare that Jigga at his late '90's peak.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on December 10, 2008, 10:23:39 PM
As much as fiddy is making alot of sense there. He is also taking jabs at some of those cats. Game was never a stripper. I have read alot of 50s interviews and he keeps saying the same ish since 2004 abt ja,jada,joey crack and Game saying they are good rappers but they are not good songwriters.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: cash on December 11, 2008, 10:59:02 AM
??? confused. well, umhh..u see...I cant really respond to that one, it's gone waaaay outa my juristriction so...Cash?
*scurries back to his reggae records

We are all part of one "energy" called MUSIC(hip-hop)
This energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. Therefore "every single hip-hop artist or musician, comes from someone else's nutsack!"
The only issue is that some CLAIM to be original(Or really just never knew who theyre real Daddy was) and others are cool with the fact that they came from another niggas nuts.

50 came from somebodys nuts, and Game comes from 50's nuts.
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on December 11, 2008, 11:39:39 AM
??? confused. well, umhh..u see...I cant really respond to that one, it's gone waaaay outa my juristriction so...Cash?
*scurries back to his reggae records

We are all part of one "energy" called MUSIC(hip-hop)
This energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. Therefore "every single hip-hop artist or musician, comes from someone else's nutsack!"
The only issue is that some CLAIM to be original(Or really just never knew who theyre real Daddy was) and others are cool with the fact that they came from another niggas nuts.

50 came from somebodys nuts, and Game comes from 50's nuts.

you need a goddamned timeout this sounds gay as f*** *pages rainbow killer*
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: dat dude who happens to rap! on December 11, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
50 has always made a lot of sense in his interviews. I think he is a great thinker in the game and he is good at "reading" people and situations.

I dont think he will do that well though on his new album if he is going to talk greasy about lil wayne. let the boy shine, its his turn now.


LOl I agree 50 thinks his answers through and doesnt just run his mouth! I still respect the dude, I got curtis I wasnt too happy but the album is worth a listen. As for the new stuff! i still havent coped the G-unit album! so for christmas I'mma spoil myself and get the new luda, 50 and g-unit!

As for millie I kinda agree! it was a dope concept for wayne to do it but its a one hit then you move on and dont look back!
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: cash on December 11, 2008, 12:50:42 PM
??? confused. well, umhh..u see...I cant really respond to that one, it's gone waaaay outa my juristriction so...Cash?
*scurries back to his reggae records

We are all part of one "energy" called MUSIC(hip-hop)
This energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred. Therefore "every single hip-hop artist or musician, comes from someone else's nutsack!"
The only issue is that some CLAIM to be original(Or really just never knew who theyre real Daddy was) and others are cool with the fact that they came from another niggas nuts.

50 came from somebodys nuts, and Game comes from 50's nuts.

you need a goddamned timeout this sounds gay as f*** *pages rainbow killer*

Nooooo! Not the HOMOcidal Rainbow Killer! Im sorry
Title: Re: 50 back @ hating again
Post by: DaT NiGGa P-DuB on December 11, 2008, 02:03:22 PM
Although 50 makes a good point about writers he should put himself in that category!!!!

Coz 50 makes hooks... all he wrote was hooks for Game not verses... and thats what he does now. Just makes hooks.. Listen to Get up... Dope Hook.. Lyrics 4/10...so he aint a great songwriter either...

since get rich or die trying...he aint done shit either...Bar - I get money / Candy Shop. Ayo technology - Justin made that song..