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bishes.. get ready to get wet. Dante is on the way. Start saving those Rands and copping those Cape Town airtickets and Jazzfest tickets.
The 2009 Cape Town International Jazz Festival that takes place at the Cape Town International Convention Centre (CTICC) on 03-04 April will be a “mother of all celebrations”. Not only is the festival to celebrate its tenth anniversary, organisers have lined up a programme in which different musicians will toast their achievements. Already, legendary trumpeter Hugh Masekela, celebrates his seventieth birthday at one of the event’s five stages. So is Cape Town–based Latin-beat group, Loading Zone. The band celebrates its twentieth anniversary at this year’s Cape Town International Jazz Festival. The two acts are part of the initial nineteen artists announced in December 2008.
more here
http://www.capetownjazzfest.com/About.aspx
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I'm gonna try to get press accreditation for this.
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- THE DANCING QUEEN -
and more fainting to be done in the form of ZAP MAMA + the dutchies PETE PHILLY AND PERQUISITE + and bluey and his troop in the form of INCOGNITO. and and and and and and...
* does indeed proceed to faint *
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f*** me away...I'll try by all means available to man in 2009 to get there ;D
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***Opens diary and starts looking for a baby sitter***
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Ima be there.
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This is so unfair.
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I'll be there.....!!!
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This is so unfair.
Co-sign >:(
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JUst heard a rumour he may be coming to JHB as well... and something about Slum V on march 13...
Anyone got any word on this?
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Don't know about that, but what I do know is that EMC is here on 27 February.
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Don't know about that, but what I do know is that EMC is here on 27 February.
Pray do tell my good man. Where are they performing... cover charge? etc etc..
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WORD if he is coming to the J as well.
@Pyro: where is eMC gonna perform?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I knew I'd get your attention.
Give me ten minutes, I just have to do something.
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Here you go
http://www.africasgateway.com/forums/index.php?topic=25480.msg196382#msg196382
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JUst heard a rumour he may be coming to JHB as well...
for me it was just a thought, any promoter who knows what time it is would do this.
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I'm with you PyRo. Accreditashun!
Eish but Dante is dodgy so maybe we can do a simulatneous interview. Not tryna be alone with THAT man. lol.
Failing that, I pray the exchange rate remains favourable so it still feels free :) INCOGNITO!!! :o
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Weekend Pa**: R485; Day Pa**: R330
hmmmmm....
Heads up: There's a glitch on the computicket site. I would say take advantage of it b4 they realise bt then again, what if they don't let you in the second day...
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JUst heard a rumour he may be coming to JHB as well... and something about Slum V on march 13... Anyone got any word on this?
The Slum Village thing mite be happening, talked to someone who's involved in organising it.
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Eish but Dante is dodgy so maybe we can do a simulatneous interview. Not tryna be alone with THAT man. lol.
free security or free photographer? you know im your man ;)
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speaking of Dante being dodgy...
from the NY Post a while back..
August 26, 2005 -- MULTI-talented rapper/actor Mos Def is one busy dude. We hear the Brooklyn-born performer, whose real name is Dante Terrell Smith, has five children by five different women. But that's not all: The latest rumor is that the devout Muslim has two wives. One of Mos Def's many former flames tells PAGE SIX he married Wife No. 2 after knowing her for just a few days. A rep for the randy rhymer seemed to take the news in stride, but declined comment on the alleged multiple children and wives.
SMH..
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Let me re-visit his albums so I can harmonize along while he performs his art work.
I wonder what songs he's gonna perform.
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/MosDef_Carnegie_062808.jpg)
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SABC might pull out sponsoring due to its recent financial crisis....
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Has any1 bought the tickets already?
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Heard Mos def will definately be doin JHB no dates confirmed yet tho. Channel O was approached to provide Hosts/Mc's
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so will u host or mc?
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Let me re-visit his albums so I can harmonize along while he performs his art work.
I wonder what songs he's gonna perform.
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/MosDef_Carnegie_062808.jpg)
Now you f***ers look closely at the motherf***er on the right and pray one day you discover his music...
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Love Supreme.....Love Supreme.....Love Supreme......
I wouldnt say that he rocked the show, I'd say his performance was average
He even did couple of Slum Vee songs for a tribute to Jay Dee aka J Dilla
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Let me re-visit his albums so I can harmonize along while he performs his art work.
I wonder what songs he's gonna perform.
(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/images/MosDef_Carnegie_062808.jpg)
Now you f***ers look closely at the motherf***er on the right and pray one day you discover his music...
Its the OG that did Revolution Will not be Televised and Did you hear what they say Gil-Scott Heron
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Mos Def in the J on Thursday @ Carfax. Computicket baba !!!
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Mos Def in the J on Thursday @ Carfax. Computicket baba !!!
I hear the tickest are going for R300. How true?
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Mos Def in the J on Thursday @ Carfax. Computicket baba !!!
I hear the tickest are going for R300. How true?
R300 ? f*** that. I like Mos Def but not that much. That's baby milk money.
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Why were people disappointed with Mos Def?
What were you expecting?
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Mos Def in the J on Thursday @ Carfax. Computicket baba !!!
I hear the tickest are going for R300. How true?
R300 ? f*** that. I like Mos Def but not that much. That's baby milk money.
hahahahaha.....!!!
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Why were people disappointed with Mos Def?
What were you expecting?
i expected him to rap and to rap his hit songs on top of it. he almost sang the entire performance. the Ms Fat Booty version that he did was not everage. was not there to hear him sing the entire performance. not very pleased at!
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Why were people disappointed with Mos Def?
What were you expecting?
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Most ppl thought that he's gonna perform...his popular songs like Travellin Man, Brown Skin Lady, and so on.
They thought that he's gonna be doing it Hip Hop style, but he was there for Jazzy Grooves
He did Ms Fatty Booty..in a Jazz tip though, he did Umi Says and The Boogie Man Song
Just that I don't know whether he still deserve to be label as a Hip Hop cat
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i spoke to someone who enjoyed it completely...
so it cant be as bad as that abortion of a performance lauryn hill pulled...
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Mos Def in the J on Thursday @ Carfax. Computicket baba !!!
I hear the tickest are going for R300. How true?
R300 ? f*** that. I like Mos Def but not that much. That's baby milk money.
True story.
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he has an international reputation for singing on stage...
*HD tv viewing material
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Why were people disappointed with Mos Def?
What were you expecting?
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Most ppl thought that he's gonna perform...his popular songs like Travellin Man, Brown Skin Lady, and so on.
They thought that he's gonna be doing it Hip Hop style, but he was there for Jazzy Grooves
He did Ms Fatty Booty..in a Jazz tip though, he did Umi Says and The Boogie Man Song
Just that I don't know whether he still deserve to be label as a Hip Hop cat
I think we need to change our mindsets.
Obviously caused by two factors, one the local hip hop acts who never release enough material so whenever we see them they are bound to sing our favourites.
And two we wait so long for cats like Mos Def that when they get here they're in a different place or mindset in their career.
I gave up on hearing even stuff from the Black on Both sides (nevermind Blackstar) after three songs, not only was it obvious that they weren't coming, but he is also a magnetic, utterly impressive and effortless performer, fortunately for me I might catch him again on Thursday so I can get some hip hop but from what I experienced the cat was born to this and it was worth the money, trip to Cape Town.
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Cats,
U gta realise that he was at the Cape town JAZZ FEST not the Cape Town hip hop fest... Thats hw multi talented he is he can switch up his style wen the time arises... Hell probly quench ur hip hop thirsts wen he comes thru to J-sec for a hip hop event on thurday...
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Cats,
U gta realise that he was at the Cape town JAZZ FEST not the Cape Town hip hop fest... Thats hw multi talented he is he can switch up his style wen the time arises... Hell probly quench ur hip hop thirsts wen he comes thru to J-sec for a hip hop event on thurday...
nigga so was Pete Philly.
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i hear he was nice out at free show in swartklip yesterday though.
btw anybody got details on the carfax gig?
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Why were people disappointed with Mos Def?
What were you expecting?
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Most ppl thought that he's gonna perform...his popular songs like Travellin Man, Brown Skin Lady, and so on.
They thought that he's gonna be doing it Hip Hop style, but he was there for Jazzy Grooves
He did Ms Fatty Booty..in a Jazz tip though, he did Umi Says and The Boogie Man Song
Just that I don't know whether he still deserve to be label as a Hip Hop cat
I think we need to change our mindsets.
Obviously caused by two factors, one the local hip hop acts who never release enough material so whenever we see them they are bound to sing our favourites.
And two we wait so long for cats like Mos Def that when they get here they're in a different place or mindset in their career.
I gave up on hearing even stuff from the Black on Both sides (nevermind Blackstar) after three songs, not only was it obvious that they weren't coming, but he is also a magnetic, utterly impressive and effortless performer, fortunately for me I might catch him again on Thursday so I can get some hip hop but from what I experienced the cat was born to this and it was worth the money, trip to Cape Town.
Well said
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If anyone had done their research they shouldn't have been disappointed. It's a Jazz Festival. He's performing with the The Robert Glasper Experiment - to expect him to just rap his old tracks is a bit silly.
Travellin' Man came out in 1998. It's 2009. Surely you don't just want to hear artists performing their old joints? We usually get washed-out artists coming to SA to perform their golden oldies. It makes a nice change to see some brand new shit.
To me his show was pure hip hop taken to another level. Mos Def's been rapping for 12 years. Wouldn't it be boring if he just kept spitting 2 or 3 x 16 bars on every track?
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If anyone had done their research they shouldn't have been disappointed. It's a Jazz Festival. He's performing with the The Robert Glasper Experiment - to expect him to just rap his old tracks is a bit silly.
Travellin' Man came out in 1998. It's 2009. Surely you don't just want to hear artists performing their old joints? We usually get washed-out artists coming to SA to perform their golden oldies. It makes a nice change to see some brand new shit.
To me his show was pure hip hop taken to another level. Mos Def's been rapping for 12 years. Wouldn't it be boring if he just kept spitting 2 or 3 x 16 bars on every track?
i totally agree my mans
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Yeah it was a jazz fest! Mad Dope
He did a free Hip Hop show in Mitchells Plain yesterday, Travellin Man, Respiration, Mathematics, Fortified Live all that shit
It was great seeing the 2 contrasts of him, both singing and rapping, he holds it down both ways! Plus that band are dope as f***!
The Robert Glasper experiment killed it the night before, opened with Jay dee's "f*** the Police"! Too dope! that drummer Chris Dave is on some other!
Zap Mama was also crazy ill, she did a dope tribute to Miriam Makeba! Vocal improv with the drummer and guitarist, fresh!
Maceo Parker killed me 20 mins before the mos shit 1 or 2 joints felt like i was at some James Brown concert! too ill, that cat is so fluid and relaxed on that sax!
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btw anybody got details on the carfax gig?
is this a word of mouth gig? cause i havent seen any flyers
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Tell me fellaz....Tiago the Guitarist from 340ml.....isn't it the same guy who plays for the band The Volume with Tumi
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btw anybody got details on the carfax gig?
is this a word of mouth gig? cause i havent seen any flyers
Peep out http://www.streetsheet.co.za/ for the flyer. R250 @ CompuTicket and R300 at the door. They f***en Crazy.
Tell me fellaz....Tiago the Guitarist from 340ml.....isn't it the same guy who plays for the band The Volume with Tumi
He is.
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I thought so too. And their drummer as well...plays for both bands
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Peep out http://www.streetsheet.co.za/ for the flyer. R250 @ CompuTicket and R300 at the door. They f***en Crazy.
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f*** that, R300 is not cool
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I'm not too enthused about the price too.. BUt i rate its okay and i'm happy to pay it too catch Mos Def Live.
People blow that amount on drinks and other silly ish regulary. We've been spoiled into expecting to receive things for free or cheap.
Anyone b$#ching about that amount isnt really being logical and probably isnt a Mos Def Fan.
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People blow that amount on drinks and other silly ish regulary. We've been spoiled into expecting to receive things for free or cheap.
hahahaha.......!!!!
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I'm not too enthused about the price too.. BUt i rate its okay and i'm happy to pay it too catch Mos Def Live.
People blow that amount on drinks and other silly ish regulary. We've been spoiled into expecting to receive things for free or cheap.
Anyone b$#ching about that amount isnt really being logical and probably isnt a Mos Def Fan.
2nd
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That homie is performing with a band, its not just an emcee and a dj. How much should they be paid? they need accomodation and all sorts of other expenses.
With all the complaining thats going its likely that they may drop the price. people will get their wish, pay a hundred bucks and spend R500 entertaining a broad after the show.
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That homie is performing with a band, its not just an emcee and a dj. How much should they be paid? they need accomodation and all sorts of other expenses.
With all the complaining thats going its likely that they may drop the price. people will get their wish, pay a hundred bucks and spend R500 entertaining a broad after the show.
Hahaha...that is so true.
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Anyone b$#ching about that amount isnt really being logical, probably isnt a Mos Def Fan.
...or just cant afford it
*'recessioning'
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That homie is performing with a band, its not just an emcee and a dj. How much should they be paid? they need accomodation and all sorts of other expenses.
With all the complaining thats going its likely that they may drop the price. people will get their wish, pay a hundred bucks and spend R500 entertaining a broad after the show.
are you implying Mos Def > a broad :D?
@D are you being serious when you say by doing research people might like music they otherwise figured was wack?
if you ask me, this Mos thing comes down to one thing. it has nothing to with him being 'next' and sa heads being a**backwards, its got to do with whether or not you think Mos can sing, whether or not you enjoy his music when hes singing. simple as that. its a cop out to a**ume that the only reason people might not like what he does is because theyre not 'ready'.
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Come on Nyambo,
There's no justifying that price at all. Band or no band. The show @ Moretele Park in Mamelodi has got 20 or so top local artists like Bra Hugh and all of them, along with their bands and they don't charge that much.
How dare u say we aint Mos Def fans cos we're protesting the price. LOL !!!
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Plus that mother f***er ain't just a NYC Hip Hop head anymore, he a a-list Celebrity! Damn, he headlined over Maceo Parker for f*** sakes!
Its quite stupid to argue over the price, nothing will change that? Either you willing to go or not? WTF?
Plus there's a pretty dope line-up to boot! Zaki is worthwhile too?
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Plus that mother f***er ain't just a NYC Hip Hop head anymore, he a a-list Celebrity! Damn, he headlined over Maceo Parker for f*** sakes!
Its quite stupid to argue over the price, nothing will change that? Either you willing to go or not? WTF?
WOrd up.
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@D are you being serious when you say by doing research people might like music they otherwise figured was wack?
if you ask me, this Mos thing comes down to one thing. it has nothing to with him being 'next' and sa heads being a**backwards, its got to do with whether or not you think Mos can sing, whether or not you enjoy his music when hes singing. simple as that. its a cop out to a**ume that the only reason people might not like what he does is because theyre not 'ready'.
People are saying they were disappointed because their expectations weren't met.
If people had researched (read a review, listened to the Glasper band the day before or online etc), they would have known what to expect and possibly avoided disappointment.
The same people that love Mos' singing on Travellin' Man are now hating on him for singing on his new shit - it doesn't make sense.
To say that Mos can't sing is like saying Capleton can't sing. It's not RnB or opera, it's a particular style of singing. Mos' voice carries a lot of emotion. Personally, I would listen to Mos sing over any RnB singer you care to mention (but I don't like RnB).
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The swaartklip show was banging, got pictures and videos but don't know how to up the here.
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@D are you being serious when you say by doing research people might like music they otherwise figured was wack?
if you ask me, this Mos thing comes down to one thing. it has nothing to with him being 'next' and sa heads being a**backwards, its got to do with whether or not you think Mos can sing, whether or not you enjoy his music when hes singing. simple as that. its a cop out to a**ume that the only reason people might not like what he does is because theyre not 'ready'.
People are saying they were disappointed because their expectations weren't met.
If people had researched (read a review, listened to the Glasper band the day before or online etc), they would have known what to expect and possibly avoided disappointment.
The same people that love Mos' singing on Travellin' Man are now hating on him for singing on his new shit - it doesn't make sense.
To say that Mos can't sing is like saying Capleton can't sing. It's not RnB or opera, it's a particular style of singing. Mos' voice carries a lot of emotion. Personally, I would listen to Mos sing over any RnB singer you care to mention (but I don't like RnB).
I second that......Mos Def is an incredible singer.....he's gat a nice voice than most RnB cats.
I mean u can tell that he sings from his heart & soul.
My favourite are
Climb feat Vinia Mojica
Lifetime
Getto Steppin with Vinia Mojica
Mordel Marvel
The Beggar
The Panties
I think he's gat that same style as Mr Notch that dude from Born Jamericans...they kinda harmonize in the same way on tracks but Mr Notch is more reggae, while Mos Def is more rap
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The swaartklip show was banging, got pictures and videos but don't know how to up the here.
Send me the pix.
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The swaartklip show was banging, got pictures and videos but don't know how to up the here.
Send me the pix.
Okay, you know I got you.
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The issue here is not necessarily about the singing. The music was nothing spectacular. I believe he can pull of nice tunes with that band the same way they killed MC^2. as far as i remember thats the time when the crowd seemed to be more pleased than in any of the songs he performed and i bet you the majority of the people dont even know the MC^2 joint. it just sounded too great hence the crowd reaction.
I had no idea that mos is meant to be more of a singer than a rapper now and i hustled for tickets to hear him rap more than he sings. of course mos has a great sounding voice but the music was not good enough to satisfy me.
The band could have pulled the whole shit off even if they played the same popular and cla**ic mosdef songs. Man i even enjoyed Siphokazi's (not to be confused with Siphocashy lol) first few songs on her performance better than i enjoyed mosdef.
the whole excuse that its a jazz festival hence the singing is just not good enough. Pete Philly (only saw at the free concert though) did both singing and rapping and it was great! his band was just really dope but i hear their set was even better at the actual jazzfest on Friday.
another thing, mosdef's albums have never been great after black on both sides so theres no way i could have gone there hoping to hear most of the stuff from those albums. i bet you a lot of people went there with the same expectation i had but then again thats not a big issue, the issue is that the music didnt sound great! he bored me.
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I hear u RR....as I said earlier on he didn't rock the show, but he was just average. Ppl who were at Kippies where Brah Hugh was performing, they say that Brah Hugh rocked the show.....they say he was doing ama-get down....at the age of 70 can u imagine that...???
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edited my confusing reply :)
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I think it just boiled down to the fact that you didn't like it... that's taste for you - everyone's is different.
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I think it just boiled down to the fact that you didn't like it... that's taste for you - everyone's is different.
you might be right. i did consider that it could be just a matter of taste but at the same time i cant really say that with conviction since i listen a lot to that type of music but from other people. I have no doubt im my mind that if he would release a dope album where he is just singing, i'd look forward to hearing it live just i did with Zaki Ibrahim and Zap Mamma.
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Its silly to complain about "singing" given the event.
Happy Raiko should have put some people on to the free Mitchell's Plain show tho.
I wasn't there. A dime who was loved it. She took these pics:
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Its silly to complain about "singing" given the event.
u cats r just not getting it. Mosdef has a nice voice no doubt but there was nothing musically great about what i was listening to hence i was longing so much for him to start rapping and preferably the hits that we know since what he has on albums after Black On Both Sides isnt impressive. anyway, why wouldnt one complain about the singing if he wasnt dong a great job with the music when you know he can do better if he rapped rather.
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I hear u RR....as I said earlier on he didn't rock the show, but he was just average. Ppl who were at Kippies where Brah Hugh was performing, they say that Brah Hugh rocked the show
only caught the last bit of his performance and he was rocking that "Thanai" track, damn wished I was there earlier.
fck Mos "love Supreme" Def
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Love Supreme.....Love Supreme.....Love Supreme......
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i don't get the confusion. what Rearranged is saying makes absolute sense to me. i really don't understand how anyone who holds Mos in high regard as a musician and a performer (whether he sings or raps) could have been flabbergasted by that performance - except if it's just that it was Mos and he was exercising his 'artistic freedom'.
the people i came across didn't simply lapse into hating the show because Mos wouldn't rap, but they got bored first (essentially it was a mediocre performance for that type of music) before they drew that conclusion. then they had time to think and wish that he could reach their expectations of what he can do (musically) on stage by going back to the familiar material which had won him their high regard to begin with. because as charismatic as he might be, the damn thing was really subpar and boring. only Superb has even mentioned something that stood out for him (oh and someone mentioned a J Dilla cover) - the "Love Supreme" chanting. if it was really that phenomenal wouldn't a whole lot of us be talking about memorable moments? how he surprised instead of bored and dissapointed?
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Mos Def is not just an artist his great musician no doubt about that, and we don’t except him to be dope on each and every performance, but on Sat he was very average. I mean we don’t except him to have the same kinda feel or energy he had with Black Star or on Black on Both Sides. Mina personally I feel that he could have gotten away with it if his track selection was good, tracks that ppl know him of, I don’t agree with the saying that it was alright for him not to perform his common hits/cla**ics. I believe that if u an artist performing to the crowd that u have never performed in front of before, u Mos Definitely need to perform your album hits/cla**ics. Masta Ace when he was here, he took us back to the days of Juice Crew hits, Sittin on Chrome album hits….up until current material… joints. He should have done it the same way as he did his performance on Dave Chappelle’s block party.
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if it was really that phenomenal wouldn't a whole lot of us be talking about memorable moments?
exactly. it was a disappointing show. hopefully the jhb show sucks just as much. just to keep things fair :-[
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if it was really that phenomenal wouldn't a whole lot of us be talking about memorable moments?
exactly. it was a disappointing show. hopefully the jhb show sucks just as much. just to keep things fair :-[
hahahahahahahaha................oh my god
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I regret having sacrificed Hugh Masekela for that nonsense. Mosdef was not entertaining period!!!