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Title: Shrinks
Post by: Naturelle on August 07, 2009, 11:18:47 AM
Has anyone here been to see a psychologist and do you think it helped you deal with the issues you had?
Is it overated or helpful? Do they offer practical solutions or should is it just the same as opening up to a friend?

Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 11:26:59 AM
It depends, I have been to a few and some are completely useless and a waste  of time and money.

My last one was really good though and she takes a very practical approach and offers suggestions and is really good. She helped me through a really bad patch, to the point where I don't even need the pills I am on anymore. I have stopped taking them for a few weeks just to see and I am gonna stop for good once this prescription runs out.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: Mrs Jones on August 07, 2009, 11:27:42 AM
My friend whilst growin up had issues with her dad. Years later she just could not deal with it and so she went to a shrink and it helped alot.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: the panic! on August 07, 2009, 11:37:20 AM
worth a shot.

why not?
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: Naturelle on August 07, 2009, 11:50:26 AM
It's come to a point where recurring dreams, cycles, patterns are so evident and it's due to not facing things. not dealing properly. u think u r ok. U r strong. push em to back of my head, under the rug but they slowly resurface.I'm still here. They whisper. Imma star in the excorcist if i don't box these demons ASAP.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 11:53:33 AM
It's come to a point where recurring dreams, cycles, patterns are so evident and it's due to not facing things. not dealing properly. u think u r ok. U r strong. push em to back of my head, under the rug but they slowly resurface.I'm still here. They whisper. Imma star in the excorcist if i don't box these demons ASAP.

I know exactly what you are talking about.

It came to a point where I was up till four or five every morning, cos I didn't wanna sleep and have the same nightmares. Spent a shitload on booze (more than usual) cos then I could at least sleep peacefully. Panic attacks etc.

You think you can deal with it yourself, but sometimes it is best to get a pro to help you.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: msdeane on August 07, 2009, 11:58:32 AM
my moms a shrink, and strongly believes against medication in one's journey of healing. Anti depressants are not cool, its like they suck the life out of you, you not happy or sad just there i guess (all dead inside)...  I would like to see a shrink too for whatever personal reasons, coz I dont open up to her my mom (at all) or my friends enuf, and certain things are just too overwhelming and I guess you just want to tell all without censoring, without judgement or feeling like you making your personal problems other people's issues too.

So my question, are men also comfortable with going to see shrinks?
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 12:06:47 PM
I'm a man, and I thought that shrinks are only for weaklings and shit, but yeah, after this last one, I would definitely recommend it. Especially her, if you are in the Bloem area.

As for anti-depressants, I think it depends on who you are and your situation. Feeling nothing is sometimes better than feeling like shit constantly.

I don't have a problem with not having any emotions. in fact, I enjoy it and I am gonna miss it, when I get off these.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: the panic! on August 07, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
the only thing about anti-depressants is that i would'nt advise you take them if you plan do anything that requires creative aptitude. if you are on anti-depressants your emotions are inhibited, you feel sedated, and you cannot get to certain places. you will vaguely remember being there, but won't feel it presently and this can be the most harrowing experience imaginable if you base your life on being able to go there to create.

this is why K. Sello Duiker committed suicide on the 19th of January 2005.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 12:44:40 PM
Maybe true. I am functioning quite well though.

I am having trouble with my creative writing though, but since I mostly write hard news nowadays, it isn't such a biggie. I also don't have time to paint and do creative writing, so it doesn't affect me that much.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: the panic! on August 07, 2009, 12:47:02 PM
Pyro, how do you feel when you're drunk and are on anti-depressants?

i only know of somone either feeling extremely happy or very bad when they're drunk. can't imagine there's an indifferent state in between.

yeah, what i posted would affect mainly things like painting and creative writing. but who knows, maybe it's not written in stone. you could try it out.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 12:57:14 PM
I haven't noticed a difference between anti-depressant drunk and regular drunk.

I think alcohol affects the frontal lobe, which controls conscious thought, so it shouldn't really make a difference if you are on anti-depressants, since these work by regulating serotonin or dopamine levels.

I am generally a rather happy drunk, except when you are stupid or gay around me.

Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: motho on August 07, 2009, 01:01:53 PM
Has anyone here been to see a psychologist


yeah, I did. but it was back in high school. So I really despised being called over the intercom so the whole school could be reminded that I am pill popping depressed chick. But yeah, social osracism aside. it helped. a lot.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: the panic! on August 07, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
how does it help? what happens?

not that you guys haven't convinced me. i'm just interested.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: motho on August 07, 2009, 02:01:15 PM
how does it help? what happens?

not that you guys haven't convinced me. i'm just interested.

coz sometimes the people causing u distress are ur confidants. So talking to someone who's job it is to listen, nod, give u pills and advice helps. but also because 'depression' is not really considered a disease at times, especially when you're in high school and listen to too much AZ, then the parents dismiss it by saying u on drugs.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 02:08:16 PM
Mine helped me put a lot of things in perspective.

She gave me some tips on how to deal with the things that were causing me problems and how to address my obsessive nature and perfectionism and how to cope with some other issues.

Also helped me realise I don't have to put so much pressure on myself and focus on something other than strengths and always only playing to those and then being hard on myself when things don't pan out like I want them to.

I reached a point where I was so disillusioned with shit that I figured I might as well give up and do nothing cos it's all for nought.

Basically told me that I am human and I shouldn't judge myself and others according to my previous ridiculous standards, which often made me feel very dissilusioned and made me lose complete faith in humanity.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: Nar8iv on August 07, 2009, 02:33:35 PM
I often wonder about the merits of therapy like "hypnosis".
I'm not too sure if I would feel comfortable trusting my unconcious mind deliberately in the hands of another human being.

Nevermind the "cluck like a chicken" routines.
These are also people dealing with their own demons, issues.
What prevents them from taking advantage of you...yes the obvious sexual abuses spring to mind...
but what if....

c'mon dont tell me these people dont have fantasies abt pushing the humna mind to limits with torments and writing books on their findings because they watched to much silence of the lambs etc etc.

Serious misgivings.serious ones.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: motho on August 07, 2009, 02:37:04 PM
I often wonder about the merits of therapy like "hypnosis".

I know a gay hippie farmer in the bundus (seriously) who used hypnosis to stop smoking, aparently it works
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on August 07, 2009, 02:39:46 PM
Hypnosis is simply making suggestions to the subconscious. It can't make you do things you wouldn't do if you were awake.

So unless you are a pervert or nympho who would sleep with your therapist anyway, there is really no way he could make you do things while under.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: Mad on August 07, 2009, 03:56:54 PM
i dont even know what a shrink does, never been into one and im not going to see one, im not the type of person who turns to shrink in order to solve a personal breakdown, its just not typical of me. ive heard people speak about them and giving them lots of credit. when im suffering from some sort of stress i just do something to take my mind out of it and then try to deal with it the appropriate way. if its too much i look for an alternative, like asking advice from a trained proffessional or just a close person who is capable of sovling that particluar problem. pills i dont use, ive never taken a single stress relifieng pill in my life. reason is....ive heard some superstition that they only make things worse.

im a xhosa dude, i do things the xhosa way, either i go and see a traditional healer and seek some advice just to check if its not something related to the ancestors and all that crap, or just simply go to the graveyard and talk to my forefathers, it helps a lot, best believe, you just find all possible solutions
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: msdeane on August 07, 2009, 04:53:46 PM
I strongly feel that depression is something self inflicted. each day we fighting this war of surviving in life and we are faced with the craziest ish ever be it daddy or mommy dramas, finances, baby mama dramas, school/work and the list goes on.

Be Gentle with yourselves guys, and fight the fight.
Title: Re: Shrinks
Post by: Mrs Jones on August 07, 2009, 05:55:53 PM
Well its kinda hard to be gentle when you're in a battle!! Someone once said to me that, only the strong survive life, if you're not, you wont make it. Humans are cruel!!!