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Hip Hop Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Supafly on August 18, 2009, 03:03:39 PM
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For all the media reporting (and hype) about abuse of the drug tik, I was wondering how many local artists have addressed the issue in their music. I imagine there must be several songs that deal with drug abuse, but I'm wondering about tik specifically.
Anybody?
Sup!
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Haven't read or heard about tik in a whiiiiile. It don't mean it's not happening anymore....Seems the fad's pa**ed. They moved onto the next big thing...
No dunno of any tracks bt there must be some out there...
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Origin-O / Silence released an album called "dink 'n bietjie"
he is a community worker as well as a pastor who has a more "active" or "proactive" method of christianity he says.
he talks about things like feotal (excuse the spelling) alcohol syndrome, alcoholism and drug abuse etc.
he has one or two songs on his album that deal specifically with the issue i think.
Yes, its a hiphop album which isnt "jesus-toned" even tho he is a pastor and he has a very sick flow too :)
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Our artists prefer to talk about crack. It sounds cooler and then Americans, who so love to be exposed to things from other countries and are so openminded, can know what they are on about.
You know, that international appeal.
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The only reference I can think of is...
"Yo, it's the Black Mist Faction,
ration adlib in a sadistic fashion,
Like bad tik to addicts.
Shit'll get you bent. I represent
the illest schism of rap, kid, it's Black Mist in action"
Not exactly about drug abuse though.
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Gini Grindith has an entire track about Tik.
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i think that the reason why u don't hear these local rappers talking tik is because of its popularity or shall i say its hype, take crack cocaine for an example, that one is something flashy and popular enough to attract an audience, listeners tend to deviate when it comes to cocaine, no one in the rap industry be it a rapper of a fan, thinks crack cocaine is whack or fatal to humans, instead, they think crack cocaine is the shit, some kind of deity or idol and whoever shows love for it belongs in the cla** of the coolest f***ers. thats why we got so many crack junkies in the rap industry, we f***ed up man!!
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@witness in silence: the album you mentioned sounds interesting. Suggestions for how to get hold of it?
@motley: What's the name of the Gini track? I've not heard it.
@me and mad! - the glorification of crack turned into an entire genre, and attracted - in my opinion - a few artists to jump on the bandwagon, with the idea that they could attract an audience and sell records that way. I am not sure such gimmicks would necessarily work in the SA context. And besides, my reading of a lot of the MCs from communities affected by tik abuse, is that they would be more interested in dealing with the problem than "playing it up" in their music.
Supa!
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Our artists prefer to talk about crack. It sounds cooler and then Americans, who so love to be exposed to things from other countries and are so openminded, can know what they are on about.
You know, that international appeal.
i'ma start a new crew Pyro.. Tikboys! halla!
i think also tik wasn't very big in parts of the country that i frequent. i'd expect sum cape town cats to maybe have mentioned tik in their music coz asfar as i kno, they were most affected by tik. for instance, i don't think they even sell/make tik in mtata. i may b wrong but its just not a phenomenon in the other regions where i have homes..
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I personally don't know enough about it to speak on it.
If I ever speak on a social issue it has to be one I'm affected by directly or indirectly that way I can speak from a personal perspective.
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It would be foolish to think, even for a second, that Tik abuse has subsided. Tik is still the most accesible drug of choice in the Cape Flats. The sensation-seeking media has stopped covering stories about it, but if you speak to people on the ground level, Tik and it's partners, alcohol, is still messing up lives.
Rehab clinics are bursting at the seams trying to accomodate tik-addicts. And mental hospitals are housing many youth with various ailments induced by Tik.
Bra**e vannie Kaap and Black Noise have songs addressing this very issue. Hell, the BVK song is entitled, Tikkie tokkie.
Trust me, Tik it not as far away from you as you think.
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@motley: What's the name of the Gini track? I've not heard it.
I think its "By your side" on Iron Tooth Monsters album....
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Gini Grindith has an entire track about Tik.
I could be mistaken, but I think Gini's track is talking about White Tai.
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@witness in silence: the album you mentioned sounds interesting. Suggestions for how to get hold of it?
i can try and get hold of a copy for you - its R50...i think,
one more thing...its in afrikaans.
which is another reason why most think there are not tik-raps.
let's be honest the tik problem is most prevalent in coloured communities and that's why most of it is likely to be in afrikaans.
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Jitsvinger - mess with him.
and i think Waddy has a track on 'Good Morning South Africa' where he has his micro-voiced wifey singing "tik, tik, tik, tik, tik like meeeee!" :D
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@ watziznehmegin, I've seen Gin-i perform that track and he says its about Tik. And yes the track is 'By your side'.
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I think Isaac Mutant might also have a track that makes a brief reference to tik quite interested to hear jitsvinger's track. any idea how i could get hold of it?