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Hip Hop Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: the panic! on August 31, 2009, 09:29:30 AM
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could mean you've got next:
"Not that it's much consolation, but a Scientific American piece going viral explains that those suffering from depression are at an "evolutionary paradox" and are more evolved thinkers than happy-go-lucky types due to their analytical nature." [via Gawker]
a few quotes:
"So what could be so useful about depression? Depressed people often think intensely about their problems. These thoughts are called ruminations; they are persistent and depressed people have difficulty thinking about anything else. Numerous studies have also shown that this thinking style is often highly analytical. They dwell on a complex problem, breaking it down into smaller components, which are considered one at a time."
"Many other symptoms of depression make sense in light of the idea that analysis must be uninterrupted. The desire for social isolation, for instance, helps the depressed person avoid situations that would require thinking about other things. Similarly, the inability to derive pleasure from sex or other activities prevents the depressed person from engaging in activities that could distract him or her from the problem. Even the loss of appetite often seen in depression could be viewed as promoting analysis because chewing and other oral activity interferes with the brain’s ability to process information."
"When one considers all the evidence, depression seems less like a disorder where the brain is operating in a haphazard way, or malfunctioning. Instead, depression seems more like the vertebrate eye—an intricate, highly organized piece of machinery that performs a specific function."
read the entire article here (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=depressions-evolutionary).
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Read a similar article (or maybe it is the same one, I haven't checked the link yet) a few months ago.
It gives examples of people like Dali, Van Gogh, etc. who all suffered from depression and obsessive behaviour and all excelled at their chosen careers.
Makes a lot of sense.
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nice piece panic but cant read it
journo's, ay nci nci!!
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Depressed people do not have constructive thoughts. They often have suicidal obsessions which would hardly be deemed constructive.
Van Gogh and others like heem suffered from Bipolar type I. This is when someone alternates between a manic and depressive mental state. It is in the periods of mania that someone will harness all their energy to complete certain activities and problems.
All in all, what i'm saying is that, that article is BULLSHIT!
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depressed people do not obsess, they withdraw.
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Depressed people do not have constructive thoughts. They often have suicidal obsessions which would hardly be deemed constructive.
Van Gogh and others like heem suffered from Bipolar type I. This is when someone alternates between a manic and depressive mental state. It is in the periods of mania that someone will harness all their energy to complete certain activities and problems.
All in all, what i'm saying is that, that article is BULLSHIT!
cosign, furthermore, depressed people are in a state of confusion and preoccupation, meaning that it is rare for them to think positively and rationally.
to them, what matters is problem solving and should the means of attempting to solve a particular problem show failure of evidence, they suffer more depression and stres and they eventually harm themselves or consequently perform what is famously known as "suicide".
this is normally caused by the very same preoccuaption of the mind. once the problems become too many and start floodding up the mind at the same time they will end up causing an extreme conflict of thoughts and result into a zero production of a solution.
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Depressed people do not have constructive thoughts. They often have suicidal obsessions which would hardly be deemed constructive.
Van Gogh and others like heem suffered from Bipolar type I. This is when someone alternates between a manic and depressive mental state. It is in the periods of mania that someone will harness all their energy to complete certain activities and problems.
All in all, what i'm saying is that, that article is BULLSHIT!
lol, you're a doctor? :D
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
you guys should really learn to read something before you critique it. this is a research-based hypothesis. i don't remember them concluding anything absolute in the article, but rather they compile a theory based on evidence derived from experiments.
i was asking one1kind that because he speaks with such certainty that he has to either be a doctor or both bipolar and depressed.
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
you guys should really learn to read something before you critique it. this is a research-based hypothesis. i don't remember them concluding anything absolute in the article, but rather they compile a theory based on evidence derived from experiments.i was asking one1kind that because he speaks with such certainty that he has to either be a doctor or both bipolar and depressed.
how does this negate my comment?
oh,and i've read your article
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causes of depression:
being fired from work = 95 %
dsismisal from work= 85%
loss of spouse= 65%
divorce= 50%
personal injury= 45%
possible causes of suicide:
loosing your job
loosing a close relative
loosing a divorce settlement
strugling to find a job
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
you guys should really learn to read something before you critique it. this is a research-based hypothesis. i don't remember them concluding anything absolute in the article, but rather they compile a theory based on evidence derived from experiments.i was asking one1kind that because he speaks with such certainty that he has to either be a doctor or both bipolar and depressed.
how does this negate my comment?
oh,and i've read your article
where does it say you have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive?
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
you guys should really learn to read something before you critique it. this is a research-based hypothesis. i don't remember them concluding anything absolute in the article, but rather they compile a theory based on evidence derived from experiments.i was asking one1kind that because he speaks with such certainty that he has to either be a doctor or both bipolar and depressed.
how does this negate my comment?
oh,and i've read your article
where does it say you have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive?
let me be more clear
my gripe is with their direction of investigation,if one can be healthy of mind and exhibit the levels of analytical thought they speak of,why should I care if they find that there's some 'good' about feeling bad.
that's my response to their hypothesis,i don't find it useful.
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yo i see alot of big words in this place lol...depression without the big words is basically......you got sum mother f***in issues and you need to address the shit and whilst doing that your face and expression gives the game away..maybe we can have a smile and still be depressed...? ;D
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one doesn't have to be a doctor to see that that article is not a good enough 'pro' to being depressed...
it's a self-defeating argument,one doesn't have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive...and lets face it,if you search hard enough,you can find 'good' in anything
you guys should really learn to read something before you critique it. this is a research-based hypothesis. i don't remember them concluding anything absolute in the article, but rather they compile a theory based on evidence derived from experiments.i was asking one1kind that because he speaks with such certainty that he has to either be a doctor or both bipolar and depressed.
how does this negate my comment?
oh,and i've read your article
where does it say you have to be depressed to be analytical or constructive?
let me be more clear
my gripe is with their direction of investigation,if one can be healthy of mind and exhibit the levels of analytical thought they speak of,why should I care if they find that there's some 'good' about feeling bad.
that's my response to their hypothesis,i don't find it useful.
that's understandable. but personally, i think it's a good thing to re-evaluate our understanding of what we consider mental illness's. whether it be depression or madness, i think there's more to just being 'sick' and i have absolutely no qualms with people researching this and proposing alternative views.
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yo i see alot of big words in this place lol...depression without the big words is basically......you got sum mother f***in issues and you need to address the shit and whilst doing that your face and expression gives the game away..maybe we can have a smile and still be depressed...? ;D
hay sana, uwow!!!!
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yo i see alot of big words in this place lol...depression without the big words is basically......you got sum mother f***in issues and you need to address the shit and whilst doing that your face and expression gives the game away..maybe we can have a smile and still be depressed...? ;D
hahahaha!
hay sana, uwow!!!!
lol @ this too!
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hehehehe....
Look up depression on Wikipedia. that is the least you could do.
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f*** all this talk, if you depressed, go to your nearest ghetto are or squatta Camp or some kasi/ whatever the f*** you niggers call it and buy some marijuana and smoke the smog out of that shit till you doze off and shit on yourself. NICE!!!
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marijuana is a depressant! ;D next!!
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marijuana is a depressant! ;D next!!
No, Marijuana is actually a relaxant...get some and chill the f*** out!
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marijuana is a depressant! ;D next!!
No, Marijuana is actually a relaxant...get some and chill the f*** out!
gotdam i have to agree...weed is a relaxent and it aint the gateway to drugs...f*** it...smoke weed every mother f***in day untill im way underground...
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Actually THC acts more as a modd enhancer. This means it amplifies the emotione you are experiencing.
So, if you are sad and smoke weed, it is likely to heighten these feelings.
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Wow, you're all some genius muhfukkas, make me feel like an idiot!
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marijuana is a depressant! ;D next!!
No, Marijuana is actually a relaxant...get some and chill the f*** out!
gotdam i have to agree...weed is a relaxent and it aint the gateway to drugs...f*** it...smoke weed every mother f***in day untill im way underground...
and you had to spoil a good argument
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
Hahahahaha! How many emcees have you heard rapping about how a dude smokes a blunt and then thinks he's an ill rapper, when actually he's shit but the weed makes him think he's good. I guess they're talking about kats like you Tyrone!
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
Hahahahaha! How many emcees have you heard rapping about how a dude smokes a blunt and then thinks he's an ill rapper, when actually he's shit but the weed makes him think he's good. I guess they're talking about kats like you Tyrone!
oooooh...you dumb puss...you think you funny...come on ag(or maybe you old member with a new name)and try to make me look like a fool..you may have succeeded but it doesnt take away a 180k recording deal now does it...go back to your kak life and think where you f***d up and how you came into this earth..your uncle might be your daddy...tsek..
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Smoke some weed gents!!!
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
Hahahahaha! How many emcees have you heard rapping about how a dude smokes a blunt and then thinks he's an ill rapper, when actually he's shit but the weed makes him think he's good. I guess they're talking about kats like you Tyrone!
oooooh...you dumb puss...you think you funny...come on ag(or maybe you old member with a new name)and try to make me look like a fool..you may have succeeded but it doesnt take away a 180k recording deal now does it...go back to your kak life and think where you f***d up and how you came into this earth..your uncle might be your daddy...tsek..
thehehehehehehe *DEAD*
YO money, go easy on this piece of a kitten vulva man, dude is still havin wet dreams, so he's obssessed with the old dudes
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
Hahahahaha! How many emcees have you heard rapping about how a dude smokes a blunt and then thinks he's an ill rapper, when actually he's shit but the weed makes him think he's good. I guess they're talking about kats like you Tyrone!
oooooh...you dumb puss...you think you funny...come on ag(or maybe you old member with a new name)and try to make me look like a fool..you may have succeeded but it doesnt take away a 180k recording deal now does it...go back to your kak life and think where you f***d up and how you came into this earth..your uncle might be your daddy...tsek..
Oh wow. You think your recording deal is gonna impress me. Pff. Like I give a f*** about any mc or his recording deal Like your life is any more significan that mine because of your deal. Funny how people talk shit about me with out eve knowing me. Where do you get off bringing my family into this hmm?
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mad you trippin again...you my friend...need a nice skunk blunt to lighten your mood and improve your raps...been smoking for ten yearsthru depression and all that jazz..still here more f***d up than before and very forgetful..but i accept those effects...i aint sayin youll should smoke weed if you depressed but try it..f***in helps...and youll see life in a greener light... ;D
Hahahahaha! How many emcees have you heard rapping about how a dude smokes a blunt and then thinks he's an ill rapper, when actually he's shit but the weed makes him think he's good. I guess they're talking about kats like you Tyrone!
oooooh...you dumb puss...you think you funny...come on ag(or maybe you old member with a new name)and try to make me look like a fool..you may have succeeded but it doesnt take away a 180k recording deal now does it...go back to your kak life and think where you f***d up and how you came into this earth..your uncle might be your daddy...tsek..
Oh wow. You think your recording deal is gonna impress me. Pff. Like I give a f*** about any mc or his recording deal Like your life is any more significan that mine because of your deal. Funny how people talk shit about me with out eve knowing me. Where do you get off bringing my family into this hmm?
You really told him.
What would you do if you found out that you uncle was really your dad though?
John Lennon found out that the woman he thought was his aunt, was really his mom and the woman who raised him was actually his aunt.
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uncle = dad
hectic stuff.
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I was thinking about this, ad I know I sound like an idiot so don't bother telling me, but if your uncle was your father, he wouldn't be your uncle but your father and that makes this whole question very odd. Or maybe I'm just very odd. Either way, it's not good.
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uncle = dad
hectic stuff.
kr kr kr kr kr kr kr!!!
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talentless you should change your name to brainless if you f*** with me...dont get personell and youll survive homy...this e-strongfaced bullshit dont cut throats by me...if you have a f***in problem im in lansdowne cpt and we can sort this kak out..now you started this by makin mention of my name and only worthy niccas can spray my name...dont diss a nicca you dont know shit about...you feel i aint a dope emcee and im wack then keep it to yoself..dont come on ag and blast me with sum "they must be talking about you tyrone"...
i smoke weed and i didnt say shit about being dope becuase of that...you are a puss!!
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talentless you should change your name to brainless if you f*** with me...dont get personell and youll survive homy...this e-strongfaced bullshit dont cut throats by me...if you have a f***in problem im in lansdowne cpt and we can sort this kak out..now you started this by makin mention of my name and only worthy niccas can spray my name...dont diss a nicca you dont know shit about...you feel i aint a dope emcee and im wack then keep it to yoself..dont come on ag and blast me with sum "they must be talking about you tyrone"...
i smoke weed and i didnt say shit about being dope becuase of that...you are a puss!!
kr kr kr kr kr kr kr!! ethugging at its best, negro please
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at its best and best believe my word is bond mad..
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at its best and best believe my word is bond mad..
shame umntanomntu! lol
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smoke a fat weed blunt or liquidate yourself, that's it point blank period!