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Title: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on September 22, 2009, 10:15:22 AM
Cape Town - According to a report on Dutch TV show Studio Voetbal, SAFA are considering offloading current national team head coach Joel Santana in favour of Dutchman Leo Beenhakker.

Bafana Bafana have been far from impressive in recent friendly matches, and SAFA reportedly doubt that Santana can turn things around before the start of the World Cup finals next summer. Beenhakker appears to be the primary candidate to replace the Brazilian.

The 67-year-old recently parted company with Poland after a number of disappointing performances. However, the experienced Dutch coach guided the Poles to Euro 2008 and was also successful with Trinidad & Tobago, leading them to the 2006 World Cup.

Beenhakker recently returned home and has set his sights on guiding fallen Dutch giants Feyenoord back to the top.



http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Soccer/266/50ecd730dc184f42b620f6a29c40840f/22-09-2009-07-46/Santana_on_his_way_out
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Bobby Banks on September 22, 2009, 10:20:30 AM
i just dont understand why safa continue to undermine local coaches and rather opt for foreigners who are failers in their own countries. seriously, the concept just baffles me everytime i think about it
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on September 22, 2009, 10:32:01 AM
safa yi safa
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Blizzard on September 22, 2009, 10:42:23 AM
safa yi safa

lol, thats a good one Deac!!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Tonnes on September 22, 2009, 10:48:08 AM
Agree with Bobby.

LOL Deac.

Santana must be off-loaded and SAFA must apologies to South Africans for hiring him in the first place 8)
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: RearrangedReality on September 22, 2009, 10:50:27 AM
safa yi safa

lol

and they letting go of a good coach. stupid. we havent been winning a lot but we been paying overall better then before he came, yet they wanna change him. smh at the fans calling for him to be taken out too. a lot of callers on radio just dont want the dude. how stupid.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Ramorethetho on September 22, 2009, 10:53:57 AM
When are we gonna realize that our football sucks and when are we gonna realize Bafana Bafana can only play entertaining football they kinda like the  Harlem Globe Trotters of football I mean we had like 15 coaches now and you telling me they all bad come on guys
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: RearrangedReality on September 22, 2009, 10:55:00 AM
how stupid.

Not you Liquidz, im sure you have good reasons  ;D
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Tonnes on September 22, 2009, 10:56:48 AM
safa yi safa

lol

and they letting go of a good coach. stupid. we havent been winning a lot but we been paying overall better then before he came, yet they wanna change him. smh at the fans calling for him to be taken out too. a lot of callers on radio just dont want the dude. how stupid.

Santana is whack bro...the only thing he did is to mess up the team Parreira a**embled.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Anna Sasin on September 22, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
When are we gonna realize that our football sucks and when are we gonna realize Bafana Bafana can only play entertaining football they kinda like the  Harlem Globe Trotters of football I mean we had like 15 coaches now and you telling me they all bad come on guys
LOL!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: RearrangedReality on September 22, 2009, 10:59:32 AM
when are we gonna realize Bafana Bafana can only play entertaining football they kinda like the  Harlem Globe Trotters of football

hahahahahahah!!!!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on September 22, 2009, 11:11:20 AM
after that the whole team needs a pay cut
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on September 22, 2009, 11:17:04 AM
Do you guys really think the problem is the coach?

We always blame the coach, yet all these coaches (with the exception of Santana) have done wonders at other teams, before and after coaching Bafana.

I think the problem lies with our players' arrogance and our insistence on playing "African football" in a world where that obviously isn't effective. Our players play week in and week out in our local league and national squad and yet go fail fitness tests when trialling at overseas clubs. How the f*** do you explain that?

They said Troussier was a useless coach too, then he took Korea to the WC semis. Think about it.

I think Santana is shit too, but he really can't do much with what he has to work with.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on September 22, 2009, 11:31:03 AM
Do you guys really think the problem is the coach?

We always blame the coach, yet all these coaches (with the exception of Santana) have done wonders at other teams, before and after coaching Bafana.

I think the problem lies with our players' arrogance and our insistence on playing "African football" in a world where that obviously isn't effective. Our players play week in and week out in our local league and national squad and yet go fail fitness tests when trialling at overseas clubs. How the f*** do you explain that?

They said Troussier was a useless coach too, then he took Korea to the WC semis. Think about it.

I think Santana is shit too, but he really can't do much with what he has to work with.

i think the players need pay cuts, i blame it on the players. heck they can even bring ancelloti and/or the lord wenger the same things will happen. its a combination of the SAFA officials and players...
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Swordsman on September 22, 2009, 11:43:09 AM
players
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: GudEar on September 22, 2009, 12:01:32 PM
It's Irvin Khoza.....
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Tuboy on September 22, 2009, 12:06:07 PM
I agree with RR this is stupid, what will the new coach do? Mnxim
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Blizzard on September 22, 2009, 12:25:45 PM
what is the role of an a**istant coach??
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on September 22, 2009, 02:58:28 PM
The only good and quality  Foreign coach Bafana had was Carlos Quiroz the rest were just Garbage. By the way Troussier is a failure in football.Correction Pyro! He never coached Korea(he coached Japan) and all the national teams he coached never won a single World cup match let alone pa** through the group stages.Knowing how South African Soccer works all my life and the behaviour of these SAFA cats, Guys let me tell whats goin to gonna go down 3 to 4 months before the World Cup Starts. Santana is going to be fired then they will hire a local Coach like Jomo or Gordon.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Swordsman on September 22, 2009, 03:07:35 PM
The only good and quality  Foreign coach Bafana had was Carlos Quiroz the rest were just Garbage. By the way Troussier is a failure in football.Correction Pyro! He never coached Korea(he coached Japan) and all the national teams he coached never won a single World cup match let alone pa** through the group stages.Knowing how South African Soccer works all my life and the behaviour of these SAFA cats, Guys let me tell whats goin to gonna go down 3 to 4 months before the World Cup Starts. Santana is going to be fired then they will hire a local Coach like Jomo or Gordon.

lol.... you know how they always spin this B.S. of loosing with honor, lol...I guess they are only competing to be the best loosers
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on September 22, 2009, 03:08:12 PM
My mistake New Jack, he did coach Japan. He also did win all his group matches though. Got knocked out of the second round.
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Troussier coached Japanese national team from 1998 to 2002, winning the 2000 Asian Cup, placing second at the 2001 Confederations Cup and made the round of 16 at the 2002 World Cup.

That was a lot better than SA did, and this is right after they fired him wasn't it?
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on September 22, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Don't know if it's a good move to fire a coach so late into preparations. Me thinks they should give the technical team a bit more power to influence the coach, cos i'm sure most of them don't agree with some of the tactics dude be employing at times.

Anyway, if he was to be fired, who would u choose as his replacement ? I say Gavin Hunt.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MOFF G on September 22, 2009, 03:53:01 PM
not a very wise move to fire him now, i just wonder where he lost it for us now to play this un-structure football.... during the confed cup we were playin betaa soccer, just missing the lethal strikers and our hopes were restored when Mphela came to tha party.

what eva tactics him was utilizin then he shud employ 'em now.... and these boys need to pull they socks up as well... this is a humiliation of a nation!!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Darklight on September 22, 2009, 03:53:48 PM
man f*** bafana bafana...

get rid of all the current players, they're all to f***ing egotistical... they should've done this two years ago and then went around the country to find new, fresh, young talent and then trained them!!!

and i'm sick of the name bafana bafana... the boys... the f***ing boys... they need to be men already and play proper football... maybe if we drop the nick they'll stop being immature on the field...

again, fire everyone and start over...
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on September 22, 2009, 04:04:42 PM
Oh well, looks like he won't be fired after all.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Content/Soccer/266/e5cb7fc67afd42f68c18b51c9afff844/22-09-2009-10-13/Santana_wont_be_fired


at least they looking @ beefing up the technical team with successful local coaches
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mega on September 22, 2009, 09:30:05 PM
The players and SAFA need to drop their self-importance and put the country first.  But mostly it's the players that f*** up on the field, like they get a mental block at some point when attacking.They need to be tactical, creative attackers.

Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Blac Satyr on September 23, 2009, 02:12:56 AM
sh!t no doubt SA is screwed! i thot by the time our boys had him as their new coach everyone was ova the moon since Santana was known as the best coach or one of those coach that helped Brazil to win the world cup back in the day. so perhaps the problem lies on our boys afta all yol. yes we all question why now? why do we want him out now afta payin his arse millions afta millions for loosing so much games? damn maybe le rona re slow, gotdamn bafana bafana won 12 matches with 10 defeats ova 25 matches since Santana took ova. fcuk now Radebe is beggin McCathys arse and the Africans to give him a 2nd chance and he should clean his acts sh!t, my instict tells me SA is very close with ol its loosings... its not goin thru 2010 fifa qualified...
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Bridge on September 23, 2009, 02:35:27 PM
Santana must go he is clueless. When his plan A fails he lacks plan b.  Yes, we might not have the best of players but we do have players that can compete and be victorious.  The man’s decisions r flawed.  He fielded three central-defensive midfielders against Iraq and made the first change after an hour’s play when Iraq was on the back-foot for the most part of the time.  We ended up settling for a goalless draw. The match against Brazil Santana cost us, he was content with the score and the fact we had an upper hand. Santana needed to sacrifice one of the two central-defensive midfielders for a forward, but the man waited until Brazil scored on the 88th min before he could make a change.
Walter after the game said what I was on my mind exactly. He and his captain must be excused now.  I think Ted Dimitru given another chance he can a**emble a strong team. I liked what he did going to 2006 AFCON. It was risky and Innovative.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: DAMOLAAA on September 23, 2009, 05:12:10 PM
bafana bafana is just wack. period. nothing the coach can do about it. even if God came down from heaven to coach em, they will still suck and there is nothing entertaining about their play either. they are only fantastic in the ads where one of the players can score from the centre of the pitch.
 there are only 2 or 3 teams in Africa right now that can represent at the highest level. Ivory coast, Ghana and Egypt. maybe cameroun but those guys are too old.

Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Blac Satyr on September 24, 2009, 07:47:26 PM
I'd rather watch Banyana Banyana than Bafana Bafana
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on September 24, 2009, 11:16:18 PM
Santana must go he is clueless. When his plan A fails he lacks plan b.  Yes, we might not have the best of players but we do have players that can compete and be victorious.  The man’s decisions r flawed.  He fielded three central-defensive midfielders against Iraq and made the first change after an hour’s play when Iraq was on the back-foot for the most part of the time.  We ended up settling for a goalless draw. The match against Brazil Santana cost us, he was content with the score and the fact we had an upper hand. Santana needed to sacrifice one of the two central-defensive midfielders for a forward, but the man waited until Brazil scored on the 88th min before he could make a change.
Walter after the game said what I was on my mind exactly. He and his captain must be excused now.  I think Ted Dimitru given another chance he can a**emble a strong team. I liked what he did going to 2006 AFCON. It was risky and Innovative.


There goes your credibility RIGHT OUT THE f*** OUT THE WINDOW
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on September 25, 2009, 12:12:38 PM
Just a Thought and another Angle!!!!

What if the problem is not the coach or the management? What if the problem is our players and their attitudes.We do not have enough quality players that are competive and play and go toe to toe with International Players and give them a run for their money. I mean the Corporates pump in Hundreds of Millions into soccer,in fact more money than they put in Rugby and Cricket!!!!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Ramorethetho on September 25, 2009, 12:22:38 PM
The problem with Bafana Bafana has never been with the coach we have weak soccer players period

Even that old team that won the AFCON was also weak.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on September 25, 2009, 01:42:08 PM
The problem with Bafana Bafana has never been with the coach we have weak soccer players period

Even that old team that won the AFCON was also weak.

okay have a seat now rama you've lost enough credibility for the day mkay
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Talentless on September 25, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
Getting rid of Santana now so close to the world cup is a bad idea imho. Give the guy a chance. Let's be real, he was given a shit squad. What was SA's world ranking? Don't expect him to work miracles overnight. Look at Jake White. He recieved a lot of criticism in his time, but SARU stuck with him for four years and he brought us back the world cup. Also, we need to look at the entire soccer structure in SA, not just at the national level. Santana can only work with the players produced by the PSL and a few overseas based players. If we want a good national squad it has to start at gra** roots. School level, club level, PSL, before we start worrying about the national team.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on September 27, 2009, 08:46:07 PM
i personally think santana is so far doing a great job,  the problem with our national team is in the players, you can bring the worlds best football coach in the country but if our so called players still have the same ignorant ego they have now, then we gonna persist on loosing.


but then again, santana is getting a lot of  cash to be f***ing us up, he needs to be crystal clear with his plans and come up with some innovations. this is not a f***ing local football league from the mikhukhu's in diepkloof, this is international football and the country's sake lies on it.

this is a time where excuses and failure are not expected from a person who earns a milli a month, im sure he understands our frustration as fans
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on October 07, 2009, 02:02:38 PM
Ha ha ha WHAT DID I SAY? WHAT DID I SAY on this Thread about Safa huh?  i knew it this nigga Santana's days are numbered. Safa just appointed Jomo and Clive Barker to monitor/a**ess Bafana Bafana match performances and watch Santana very closely.  Its a given thing Santana will be fired and Jomo will be coach and Clive will be the a**istant.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 07, 2009, 02:06:37 PM
Ha ha ha WHAT DID I SAY? WHAT DID I SAY on this Thread about Safa huh?  i knew it this nigga Santana's days are numbered. Safa just appointed Jomo and Clive Barker to monitor/a**ess Bafana Bafana match performances and watch Santana very closely.  Its a given thing Santana will be fired and Jomo will be coach and Clive will be the a**istant.

I f***ing hate jomo's non coaching a** atleast gavin hunt is there
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 07, 2009, 02:39:22 PM
the pirates coach should be in that panel somehow I f***s with that dude
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Killa Merc on October 07, 2009, 02:48:27 PM
the pirates coach should be in that panel somehow I f***s with that dude

I also dig Krol, but I think they went for people who are already familiar with Bafana Bafana. Besides, Krol must focus on winning the championship. Good thing they got Hunt involved. Hope he takes his eye off the league and we can stay on top til the end.


I think Gordon should be in that team.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 07, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
jomo's still an orppotunistic peice of scum
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Bridge on October 09, 2009, 07:29:36 PM
Santana must leave. Walter said it long ago, the man is clueless.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on October 13, 2009, 03:49:03 PM
peep this guys


http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1077835

the big man is coming back, santana should start talking with his agents
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on October 13, 2009, 03:52:04 PM
peep this guys


http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1077835

the big man is coming back, santana should start talking to his agents

 ::)
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on October 13, 2009, 10:57:51 PM
SO IJAMPILE BRAZ, SIYAMTHANDA AKA "SANTANA IS OUT


iceland sinks us 1-0, what a boring game to watch. i now regret turning down my girlfriends visit offer for this vodacom league match. im begining to lose hope in south African national football
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 19, 2009, 05:09:34 PM
BREAKING NEWS : SANTANA HAS QUIT. Yipeeeeeee !!!!



http://www.football365.co.za/story/0,22162,14340_5638757,00.html
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on October 19, 2009, 06:31:25 PM
Re: Santana out ?
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2009, 02:58:28 PM » Quote Modify Remove 

The only good and quality  Foreign coach Bafana had was Carlos Quiroz the rest were just Garbage. By the way Troussier is a failure in football.Correction Pyro! He never coached Korea(he coached Japan) and all the national teams he coached never won a single World cup match let alone pa** through the group stages.Knowing how South African Soccer works all my life and the behaviour of these SAFA cats, Guys let me tell whats goin to gonna go down 3 to 4 months before the World Cup Starts. Santana is going to be fired then they will hire a local Coach like Jomo or Gordon.

My premonition came true!!! Makhosi!! *Sneeze* They gonna bring Benni! BACK! let me hear an AMEN!!!!!
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 19, 2009, 10:45:49 PM
I want Gordon Igesund
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on October 19, 2009, 11:15:18 PM
so its true, dude is gone, just like that, i bet his gonna laugh his a** off to the bank when they make an advance payment of his contract. he is now patiently waiting for the multiple R1,4 million's to hit the bank and laugh all the way to Brazil.

i heard perreira's return is extremely imminent, pshhhhhhh f*** him, now his dollars are getting real he wants to come back? dont see the reason why they want dude back
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Nar8iv on October 20, 2009, 11:57:56 AM
cant we just get a south african coach who speaks ENGLISH ...
or dammit some african language.
if we are lucky we might get someone who anderstands the nuances of telling players "You stupid p.... stop dribbling and pa**"
"take a n***se shot"

sigh
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Alcohol Abuser on October 20, 2009, 12:10:45 PM
I tell you my friends if it's not gonna be another brazilian coach after "consultation" with relevant stakeholders i.e Pareira, it's definately Jomo ;)
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 20, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
if jomo coaches I will quit South african soccer
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 20, 2009, 01:19:23 PM
So far it looks like Perreira is gonna be back. He was doing pretty well b4 he left, plus he's got international experience, although he hasn't been doing that well in Brazil.

I don't see a local coach being a**igned as none of them really have any extensive international experience, aside from Jomo and Clive, who actually both suck as coaches.

The only local coach who can help us here is Shakes Mashaba, but i wonder how the relations are between him and SAFA now.

The most important thing with the new coach is the selection he's gonna make. My recommendations:

Drop Mokoena & Sibaya,
Alternate Kagiso and Benson - never play them together @  the same time.
Play Bryce Moon and bench Gaxa (he doesn't provide the attacking flair that the likes of Dani Alves, Maicon, Sergio Ramos,etc have).
Similar for Tshepo Masilela on the left ( find someone more attacking as well).
Bring in Daine Claite, Franklin Cale and Terminator and start playing them on a regular.
Always Play Tshabalala as a sub in the second half. He has the ability to change things around.
Mphela and Henyekane should be our main striking force, with Khenyeza as the main sub and Parker second.

Keep the 3 a**essors and let them work closely with the Coach. The Coach should also be in regular contact with local PSL coaches, to identify people on form and nuture them.

Avoid Santana's mistakes:

Don't play defensive football
Get a good captain
Make timely substitutions
Rotate the squad more if other players are not living up to expectations.

We got 8 months. All of this is achievable to at least avoid an embarra**ing WC for us.






Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Bridge on October 20, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
I would appreciate if SAFA can appoint a local coach, especially Ted Demitru whom I know is an innovative man who would adapt easily a under pressure in the world cup. SAFA would then need to make SAFA development structures present in all corners of the country. This would provide the country will alternative material in the future.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 20, 2009, 01:28:16 PM
So far it looks like Perreira is gonna be back. He was doing pretty well b4 he left, plus he's got international experience, although he hasn't been doing that well in Brazil.

I don't see a local coach being a**igned as none of them really have any extensive international experience, aside from Jomo and Clive, who actually both suck as coaches.

The only local coach who can help us here is Shakes Mashaba, but i wonder how the relations are between him and SAFA now.

The most important thing with the new coach is the selection he's gonna make. My recommendations:

Drop Mokoena & Sibaya,
Alternate Kagiso and Benson - never play them together @  the same time.
Play Bryce Moon and bench Gaxa (he doesn't provide the attacking flair that the likes of Dani Alves, Maicon, Sergio Ramos,etc have).
Similar for Tshepo Masilela on the left ( find someone more attacking as well).
Bring in Daine Claite, Franklin Cale and Terminator and start playing them on a regular.
Always Play Tshabalala as a sub in the second half. He has the ability to change things around.
Mphela and Henyekane should be our main striking force, with Khenyeza as the main sub and Parker second.

Keep the 3 a**essors and let them work closely with the Coach. The Coach should also be in regular contact with local PSL coaches, to identify people on form and nuture them.

Avoid Santana's mistakes:

Don't play defensive football
Get a good captain
Make timely substitutions
Rotate the squad more if other players are not living up to expectations.

We got 8 months. All of this is achievable to at least avoid an embarra**ing WC for us.








but perreira loves his 4-5-1 too much, I still want Igesund tho dude deserves a chance
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on October 20, 2009, 01:30:25 PM
All we need is a guy who is gonna say to our players, "I'm not taking any of your bullshit. If you don't perform to the top of your abilities every week, you are out."

We all agreed earlier, the problem is not as much our coach as our players. Santana was shit though and he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place, but do you guys also think Queroz and all the other coaches we have run through are all shit?

Then why do they perform at other teams?
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 20, 2009, 01:41:03 PM
south frcan players a complacent as f*** they tend to coast as soon as they think they've made it they dont show any of that hunger that alot of other countries show
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: SIR DEEJAY MZU on October 20, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
double cosign on MrC's comment, but i just disagree with leaving out Masilela. If i remember correctly there was a game whereby both goals that were scored by Parker where coming from Masilela's crosses...

As for the coach, lets bring back Perreira and employ those 3 (Grant, Clive and Jomo) as a**essors and advisers....  Bafana Bafana isnt as shit as we all say they are, our analysis is based on frustrations. We all believed that Bafana Bafana could give big names a challange if we worked more on our strikers and drop off Mokoena after their perfomance during the Confed. I still think they still can with the right support from all structures.

Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 20, 2009, 02:20:17 PM

double cosign on MrC's comment, but i just disagree with leaving out Masilela. If i remember correctly there was a game whereby both goals that were scored by Parker where coming from Masilela's crosses...


As i recall we were playing New Zealand when that happened ? That was the only time Tshepo did that. Against stronger opposition he struggles to go forward. Bryce Moon on the other hand, is a terrific right wing back, although defensively not as strong.But hey, it's give and take. We just need to complement him with a same kinda of left back , who is more consistent than Tshepo.

But u know what, at the end of the day the players need to step it up. We can talk tactics and formations the whole day.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on October 20, 2009, 02:20:32 PM
double cosign on MrC's comment, but i just disagree with leaving out Masilela. If i remember correctly there was a game whereby both goals that were scored by Parker where coming from Masilela's crosses...

. I still think they still can with the right support from all structures.
Co-sign
No!! if we employ Parreira we would be more frustated!!! Put a local coach!!!

MZU,i Never forget a face,ive seen your a** before maybe in a party or function or somewhere between those lines but there were bishes involved ;D.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 20, 2009, 02:34:22 PM
double cosign on MrC's comment, but i just disagree with leaving out Masilela. If i remember correctly there was a game whereby both goals that were scored by Parker where coming from Masilela's crosses...

. I still think they still can with the right support from all structures.
Co-sign
No!! if we employ Parreira we would be more frustated!!! Put a local coach!!!

MZU,i Never forget a face,ive seen your a** before maybe in a party or function or somewhere between those lines but there were bishes involved ;D.

was he involved in your cock blocking debacle  ;D
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on October 20, 2009, 02:40:46 PM
Deacon lets not ruin other people threadz man ;D! Back to your question nah!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 20, 2009, 02:46:29 PM
tl tl tl tl tl tl  :D :D ;D

back on topic our wing game could be really sick if we get a coach that knows what hes doing, klate;terminator; cale; tshabalala and moon someone needs to unleash these mahf***as
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: SIR DEEJAY MZU on October 20, 2009, 03:58:29 PM
double cosign on MrC's comment, but i just disagree with leaving out Masilela. If i remember correctly there was a game whereby both goals that were scored by Parker where coming from Masilela's crosses...

. I still think they still can with the right support from all structures.
Co-sign
No!! if we employ Parreira we would be more frustated!!! Put a local coach!!!

MZU,i Never forget a face,ive seen your a** before maybe in a party or function or somewhere between those lines but there were bishes involved ;D.

I saw the part i highlighted and i thought it was definately me..lmao... check your pm...


@MrC.... Regarding Masilela's consistancy, i believe that is a problem with ALL South African players....*NOT DEFENDING MASILELA*
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 20, 2009, 04:19:25 PM

@MrC.... Regarding Masilela's consistancy, i believe that is a problem with ALL South African players....*NOT DEFENDING MASILELA*


TRUE.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on October 20, 2009, 05:23:52 PM
Yeah, but have you seen this white boy's swag?
(http://server1.karmaloop.com/krp/Repimages/WhiteSwagger.gif)
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on October 20, 2009, 05:25:43 PM
so i hear bafana bafana's next match is against these guys..

my money is on these women.

1 - 0

(http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp101/qweyku/bafana.jpg)
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Mad on October 20, 2009, 07:53:30 PM
now that the that dude is gone, who do you guys recommend, apart from perreira?
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Talentless on October 20, 2009, 11:09:20 PM
Why does it matter They're just going to throw tons of cash at some big name hot shot coach, who just going to take the money and run. When we fail at the world cup you can bet SAFA is gonna blame the foreign coach. It's all part of a plan see? When SAFA f***s up they need an over-paid foreigner to blame.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 21, 2009, 09:45:38 AM
I have faith in the new SAFA executive. They seem focused on the job @ hand. Read in the Star today all this shit is basically Oliphant's fault. Dude apparently hired Santana without consulting any of the board members. Dude's where gonna have a meeting when they were told, a contract was already given to Santana, who was actually # 5 in the list Perreira suggested to SAFA.

I think they should give either Gordon or Gavin a chance, or even have them on as co-coaches. Double GG baba. Goals galore. ;D
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 21, 2009, 09:49:04 AM
I have faith in the new SAFA executive. They seem focused on the job @ hand. Read in the Star today all this shit is basically Oliphant's fault. Dude apparently hired Santana without consulting any of the board members. Dude's where gonna have a meeting when they were told, a contract was already given to Santana, who was actually # 5 in the list Perreira suggested to SAFA.

I think they should give either Gordon or Gavin a chance, or even have them on as co-coaches. Double GG baba. Goals galore. ;D

I've always hated that f***er oliphant
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: GudEar on October 21, 2009, 11:11:02 AM
Dialog Between Santana and Perreira


The dialogue between Perreira and Santana before Santana joined Bafunny Bafunny

Perreira : dude stop sitting around and starving in Brazil, there's a place in Africa with plenty of moola and the football a**ociation is a bunch of retards who will pay you whatever you want and believe whatever you say.

Santana: how much are we talking about?

Perreira: around R1.5 mil a month....

Santana: You lie....get out of here! I thought Africa was a third world continent?

Perreira: Yep thats what I thought too, but hey these guys are nut case, they are so gullible its not funny, and they think they are rich..

Santana: you getting me excited now, but how will I get my hands on those riches?

Perreira : mmmmmhhh..... how well do you know soccer cousin? because i was thinkin you can come take my place as a coach of their national team, i miss home now and I've had my share already..

Santana: I watch it every now and then.

Perreira: Ahhhh, thats enough.. we can even say you've coached a small local team before and I will recommend you cousin...

Santana: man we talking about a national team here, not just any local team!!

Perreira: Dont worry cousin leave all that to me, I told you thats a banana republic.

Santana: But dont you have a contract with them already?

Perreira : So what? I can always say my wife is sick and needs my support..

Santana: oh one last thing.... I just met this woman and I really like her, I just cant leave her..

Perreira: Can she speak English?

Santana: She watches Santa Babra and she said to me this morning "happy morning"

Perreira: Great!!! she can go to SA with you.. we'll say she's your interpreter, she can also earn some money from SAFA.

Santana: you kidding me... is this country soo bad?

Perreira: a circus I tell you...

Santana: what if I want to come back home before my contract expires?

Perreira: dont worry you will not stay there for long, no one ever does, the team loses all the time and the public blames the coach...

Santana: so these guys cant even play?

Perreira: come watch this video... you see this weakest link? "Aron Mokeona the gate way" he is the captain. should I say more?

Santana: hahahahaha... let me go do my visa and pa**port right away.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 21, 2009, 11:34:13 AM
I also think pitso should bounce, he was supposed to guide santana on local players I didnt see none of that filtering through
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Ramorethetho on October 21, 2009, 11:54:53 AM
Its simple for Bafana to win SAFA must talk to  Mr Motaung and Home Affairs to make temp IDs for foreign  Chiefs players and let Kaizer Chiefs to rep RSA next year for the World Cup 
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on October 21, 2009, 12:45:21 PM
no coach will succeed with the current powers that be, period

the football fraternity needs a complete overhaul

from administration, development, the league everything

this coach thing is just looking for quick fixes and papering over cracks,

with that said, the next coach will fail, if he's international, a local one in the interim might do better, but not succeed


in short bafana bafana will do f***'all in the world cup,
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: A pimp named Sarkozy on October 22, 2009, 06:36:17 AM
Our Cricket and Rugby teams are number 1 in rankings because of their Saru have a top notch structure in developing and Managing Players. We have 2 or 3 quality players that can really compete on the field.Heerden, Tshabalala and Klate can do more damage and can do a better job on the left more than Masilela. Gaxa and Modise are  just quantity the moment they get muscled on the ball by opponents they give up easy.Dladla must on the right and put those quality crosses and can create goals too. I would have recommended Mabalane but he and the rest of them Psl players are incosistent.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Lord Deacon Of Frost on October 22, 2009, 08:59:37 AM
I seriously want dladla in that team
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 23, 2009, 01:23:37 PM
It's Parreira Again.Oh well, i thought Gavin would take it,but it's still cool with me.


http://www.kickoff.com/
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Tuboy on October 23, 2009, 01:26:17 PM
It's Parreira Again.Oh well, i thought Gavin would take it,but it's still cool with me.


http://www.kickoff.com/

Mnxim so the wife is well now...hayi eyam'incam'intlokile
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on October 23, 2009, 01:30:26 PM
at least he broke bread wit his mate.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 23, 2009, 01:35:51 PM
Heard yesterday On Soccer Africa that this whole thing about his wife being sick was indeed a lie. Apparently what happened was a whole bunch of soccer agents and club bosses where putting Parreira under pressure to select and field certain players and he couldn't take it,so they came up with an excuse not to disclose all of this to the public. Apparently the same pressure was applied to Santana.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: General Ratzinger van Stilzkin on October 23, 2009, 01:41:49 PM
Heard yesterday On Soccer Africa that this whole thing about his wife being sick was indeed a lie. Apparently what happened was a whole bunch of soccer agents and club bosses where putting Parreira under pressure to select and field certain players and he couldn't take it,so they came up with an excuse not to disclose all of this to the public. Apparently the same pressure was applied to Santana.



so why is he coming back? surely he will face the same problems?

like i said, the situation with soccer will change once the entire system has been overhauled
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: Papa ThReAdS on October 23, 2009, 01:59:12 PM
Heard yesterday On Soccer Africa that this whole thing about his wife being sick was indeed a lie. Apparently what happened was a whole bunch of soccer agents and club bosses where putting Parreira under pressure to select and field certain players and he couldn't take it,so they came up with an excuse not to disclose all of this to the public. Apparently the same pressure was applied to Santana.



so why is he coming back? surely he will face the same problems?


For 4 milly a month, i wouldnt mind being hit with missiles at every game.
Title: Re: Santana out ?
Post by: MrC The Rap God Almighty on October 23, 2009, 02:10:11 PM
Heard yesterday On Soccer Africa that this whole thing about his wife being sick was indeed a lie. Apparently what happened was a whole bunch of soccer agents and club bosses where putting Parreira under pressure to select and field certain players and he couldn't take it,so they came up with an excuse not to disclose all of this to the public. Apparently the same pressure was applied to Santana.



so why is he coming back? surely he will face the same problems?

like i said, the situation with soccer will change once the entire system has been overhauled

Well, this new SAFA executive look like they don't take shit, so let's hope if that was the case, they will protect him better. Oliphant was just a useless yes-man.