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Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 22, 2004, 10:58:00 PM
I love me some good ol´ American rap music. Really, I do. There have been several cla**ic rap records released in the 25 years (or so) in which rap music has been commercially available. Now, you know already know the usual suspects. But, I figured some of you - who are new to this - might be interested in going back and picking up some of the gems that, back in the day, pa**ed under the radar or were just straight ignored.

So, I present to you my first three picks:

Slaughtahouse - Masta Ase Incorporated (1993 on Delicious Vinyl)

The second album released by this old Juice Crew stalwart is sonically dark (think Black Moon meets Gravediggaz) and lyrically tongue-in-cheek. By going way over the top with their tales of violence and destruction, Ase and Co (Lord Digga, Paula Perry) do more than just poke fun at the gangsta rap genre, they make a mockery of it. Still, this album is more than just a bunch of parodies. Tracks like ´Jeep a** Niguh´ and ´Saturday Night´ bang with the best of them, while Ase makes sure the lyrics are always sharp, even when he is recycling cliches.

This album demands that you listen to it from start to finish: It´s not a collection of singles; it´s a high-quality concept album.

Ism & Blues - Hard 2 Obtain (1994 on Elektra)

If the acerbic statement that is Slaughtahouse is not for you, you may prefer the lighter vibes of H2O´s Ism & Blues. Produced by the Stimulated Dummies aka SD50s (who´ve lent their magic touches to albums by KMD, Brand Nubian and Del), this album is chockful of chunky drums, deep ba**lines and rare samples. Lyrically, H2O is not up to much. Mixed in with their freeform rhymes, you´ll get lots of stunts and blunts. But the beauty of this album really is in its beats. In terms of quality production, Ism & Blues is up there with Group Home´s Livin´ Proof and Centre Of Attention by InI.

Fadanuff Fa Er´ybody - Odd Squad (1994 on Rap-A-Lot)

Although they are descendants of Scarface and his Rap-A-Lot family, the Odd Squad offers a slightly happier experience on wax. Contrasting with the depressingly nihilistic tones of Brad Jordan and the Geto Boys, this southern trio (which include Devin The Dude) is strictly about the hoes and that hocus pocus. Fortunately, they also find the time to talk about their social situations - which, between the misogyny, makes for a welcome break. Mike Dean and NO Joe provide the beats, and I can tell you that they´re slicker than OutKast´s Big Boi on a slip-n-slide. Combine the syruppy production with the crew´s sweet-sweet flows, and you have a perfect summer album.

Don´t sleep!

PEACE till next time
Supafly


[ This message was edited by: Supafly on 22-07-2004 15:59 ]


[ This message was edited by: Supafly on 22-07-2004 16:04 ]
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: SOYA DADDY on July 23, 2004, 05:09:00 AM
well fuking done!shot!woo hoo!..smell that scent of internet bandwith sarcasm...
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: FT on July 23, 2004, 03:35:00 PM
Ta for dat hiphop 101, alwayz broadening the game-knowledge....

;-)


[ This message was edited by: FT on 23-07-2004 11:06 ]
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: eef_haf on July 23, 2004, 05:33:00 PM
Quote:

Ism & Blues - Hard 2 Obtain (1994 on Elektra)

Fadanuff Fa Er´ybody - Odd Squad (1994 on Rap-A-Lot)




havent heard these two. Props for the alert. Can you do more albums, possibly even before 93? Also can you put up the album covers because it makes it easier to remember them when I make a trip to the fleamarket. :-]

"on par with group homes production" is a big statement, will mos def look for that.

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Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 23, 2004, 07:07:00 PM
Okay, as requested, here are those images.

Happy begging, borrowing, stealing etc. ;-)

Supafly






Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: eef_haf on July 23, 2004, 08:08:00 PM
nice 1.
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 23, 2004, 09:19:00 PM
Part two!



Livin’ Like Hustlers – Above The Law (1990 on Ruthless Records)

Though these guys shared a record label with NWA, they shared little of their gimmicky gangsta personas. As the title suggests, ATL is a group of hustlers. As a result, the beats and rhymes are suitably pimped out, with the exception of the Bomb Squad-like Murder Rap (which samples Chuck D on the hook). The credits suggest that Dr Dre had a hand in the production on this album, but legend has it that the good doctor spent most of his time watching a young Cold 187um (MC & producer) crank out the tunes. I can believe it, too, because there’s little here that resembles Dre’s work with NWA, Eazy-E or The DOC. Lyrically strong and well produced, this album is an excellent tome of West Coast style before the gangsta-rap rush.



No One Can Do It Better – The DOC (1989 on Ruthless Records)

This is another Ruthless Record which sounds nothing like the output of NWA, except for the exceptional production of Dr Dre. And I do mean exceptional, because Snoop Doggy Dogg and MC Ren aside, no other MC has sounded this tight over the good doctor’s medicine. The DOC is actually a Texan, who momentarily relocated to LA to work as a ghostwriter on albums by NWA and Eazy-E. And you can see why he was asked to make other MC´s shit tighter, as there isn´t a wack lyric on the album. Like Rakim, The DOC doesn’t rely on punchlines, instead he spits every word with purpose and employs a full range of vocal tones and flows. Unfortunately, he damaged his voice box in a motor vehicle accident soon after the album’s release, and his voice never fully recovered.

Still, No One Can Do It Better remains one of the most masterful, though unheralded, rap releases of the late 1980s and it’s an important entry in the production discography of the diggy-diggy Dr Dre.



Girls, I Got ‘Em Locked – Super Lover Cee & Casanova Rud (1989 on DNA Records)

I have to admit that I hadn’t discovered this album until recently. If you consider its year of release, you may understand why it was overshadowed by its contemporaries 3 Feet High & Rising by De La Soul, Paul’s Boutique by The Beastie Boys and Big Daddy Kane’s It’s A Big Daddy Thing. Still, this album has (golden) aged well. You get lots of juicy James Brown loops, some nice chops, and Cee and Rud rapping like it is, well, 1989. They don’t venture much beyond sucker MCs and sweethearts, but they do rhyme with a great deal of finesse. Album collectors will want to pick this up, even if only for the fact that legendary, but unsung producer Paul C* contributed two tracks.

* Paul C is credited with introducing Large Professor to the SP-1200 and helping him hone his production chops.

I hope this satisfies any cravings you might have had for late 80s, early 90s material. Enjoy!

PEACE
Supafly
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: PhibaOptik on July 23, 2004, 09:59:00 PM
what about Audio Two, Rodney O & Joe Cooley, T La Rock... and The Fat Boys????????

Anybody remember Mr. Dabolina ???
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: FT on July 23, 2004, 10:09:00 PM
Supafly!!
U really know yo sh*t don´t U?

Well...my background doezn´t allow me to stretch dat far-back [as in ´89-´90]

Cee & Rud, neva heard of the duo but I´ll try to find out more on ´em!
[from dat pic they look like MarkAlex:-o ]

C´mon there´s gotta be more!!!

Cho!    :-D


[ This message was edited by: FT on 23-07-2004 15:11 ]
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 23, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
Okay, this is one to tide you over for weekend. Unfortunately, I do have a life and I have to bounce. But enjoy these fruits...



Fruits Of Nature – The UMCs (1991 on Wild Pitch)

Not to be confused with Ultramagnetic MCs, a group who also recorded an album for Wild Pitch, The UMCs are a post-Daisy Age incarnation from Staten Island (also known as Shaolin to Wu-riders). You won’t find any martial arts styles on this album, though there are lots of playful sampling (think KMD’s Mr Hood album without the skits) and happy-go-lucky rhyming, provided by the self-producing duo Kool Kim and Haas G*.

The standout tracks are the singles ‘Blue Cheese’ and ‘One To Grow On’. Though I’ve seen the video for Blue Cheese, I’m told it’s corny. But, you have my word that the song is not. In fact, it’s sweet like fudge (pudge). One To Grow On, contrary to its title, actually hits you on the first listen. There are some other gems on this album, but Fruits does drag in places, especially on the kiddy-singing ´Never Never Land´.

I understand this release is now out of print, but the two singles mentioned above are available on the recently re-released Wild Pitch Cla**ics (which is worth purchasing for its collection of songs by Main Source, Gang Starr, O.C., Lord Finesse, Latee and Chill Rob G… phew!).

* After disappearing from the rap scene after the group’s horrible second release, Unleashed, Haas G made a surprise appearance in 1999, producing one cut on Ghostface Killah’s Supreme Clientele.

Have a great weekend, all!

PEACE
Supafly
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Anonymous on July 24, 2004, 07:04:00 PM
DAMN....Yo guys us DID bring back memories...remember these... if we still talking 89-90

DIGITAL UNDERGROUND - SEX PACKETS

GHETTO BOYS -WE CANT BE STOPPED

NWA - NIGGAZ4LIFE

PUBLIC ENEMY - WELCOME TO THE TERRORDOME

SPECIAL ED - YOUNGEST IN CHARGE & HIS ALBUM LEGAL

A TRIBE CALLED QUEST - FIRST ALBUM

LL COOL J - MAMA SAID KNOCK YOU OUT

TOO SHORT - SHORTDOGS IN THE HOUSE

PETE ROCK & CLSMOOTH - ALL SOULED OUT (THE FIRST ALBUM) (EP)

X CLAN - TO THE EAST BACKWARDS

ICE CUBE - AMERIKAS MOST WANTED

KING T- DONT REMEMBER THE ALBUM NAME- IT HAD THE SONG -PLAYED LIKE A PIANO _THIS CAT DISCOVERED THE ALKAHOLIKS


Most of these were all relatively platinum selling albums.....

Draztik.
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: RuSh on July 25, 2004, 12:59:00 AM
finally got a original copy of BDP should be landing next week in the country with some other old school ish i love the old school
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 26, 2004, 12:01:00 AM
Draztik, that King Tee album is called At Your Own Risk. It was his second album, following up 1988´s Act A Fool. By the way, that Played Like A Piano, which features Ice Cube, is a killer track. That song has one of the dopest piano loops of all time.

In fact, it´s up there with The Bridge Is Over and Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos.

Hot damn!

Supafly

PS. A correction to my short review of the Hard 2 Obtain album. It was released on Atlantic Records, not Elektra.
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2004, 05:33:00 PM
Ahh, supafly... yeah thats right my bad i did almost forget about the album before... at your own risk was the album... damn i´ve scratching thinking which one was it again, But yeah Played like a piano , was a sick a** track.

anybody remember the track (reckless) by ICE T....here´s another cla**ic.. paul revere-...Beastie Boys but now we talking 83-84 and 86

yo my boy Fat Free (Slim) still got the kiss-fm tape from 86-89.

my favorite tape was december 1988, when -(aint no half stepin) Daddy Kane reached #1

yo easy

Draztik.

Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Anonymous on July 28, 2004, 05:42:00 PM
Snap!! I´ve got that ICE T Album!!


Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Omero's Daddy on July 28, 2004, 05:55:00 PM
8-) Got Some Ice T on my mp3 playa!!


Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: eef_haf on July 28, 2004, 10:27:00 PM
damn its going to be tough getting all those albums.

@Supa
DO you have info/review on these:
PHD (before Screwball)
J-Rock (some cat from brooklyn I think)

Recently got Broken English Klik what do you think about them?

by the way who won the battle between Ice-T and LLCooLJ?

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Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 28, 2004, 11:30:00 PM
eef:

I can´t help you out on the PHD or J-Rock (though I´ve heard good things about it). Re: Broken English Klik - you´ve got me there! What are they like?

Re: Ice-T v LL, who cares? It was all about Moe Dee and Uncle L.

Supafly
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: The Angry Hand of God on July 29, 2004, 12:08:00 AM
Quote:

23-07-2004 at 20:21, milkdaddy :
Quote:

23-07-2004 at 14:59, PhibaOptik :
what about Audio Two, Rodney O & Joe Cooley, T La Rock... and The Fat Boys????????

Anybody remember Mr. Dabolina ???




This thread  makes me realise how young I am. Thre´s alot of this hit that I nevr heard of before, now I´ll have to come to work on Saturdays again to dl all of them.

Milk have you tried streetsoundz for these?
Rodney O and Joe Cooley - now you talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Anonymous on July 29, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
You know its funny did you guys check out the HYPE magazine, i think it was something to do with a facts column in hiphop ....it went on to mention that
MC LYTE in 1989 was the first female emcee to battle a Male counterpart.... now.... i´m amazed when anybody recites what they say is facts and puts it out there, that they would quote something so wrong it hurts....

what happened to Roxanne when she battled KRS 1, i´m sorry what year was that.... it makes you think huh... watch what you READ!!!

oh and another thing here´s a brainer who discovered GFUNK
was it DRE or Warren G.... hmmm same magazine....

yo i´m out let yall figure these out....

easy.

Draztik!
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Supafly on July 29, 2004, 06:52:00 PM
Quote:

29-07-2004 at 02:33, Anonymous :
what happened to Roxanne when she battled KRS 1, i´m sorry what year was that.... it makes you think huh... watch what you READ!!!



For the record, Roxanne Shante made her rep off Roxanne´s Revenge, an answer record UTFO´s Roxanne, Roxanne. This predates her response to KRS One´s line in the BDP song, "The Bridge Is Over": "Roxanne Shante is only good for steady f**king".

[QUOTE}
oh and another thing here´s a brainer who discovered GFUNK
was it DRE or Warren G.... hmmm same magazine....



Draz, G-Funk really should be credit to Cold 187um of Above The Law. You can find the genesis of G-Funk all over the group´s 1992 album, Black Mafia Life, which came out BEFORE The Chronic.

PEACE
Supafly
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Anonymous on July 30, 2004, 07:20:00 AM
yeah there´s a fine line to that we can also look at niggaz4life and Doc which sort of had tracks with the funky baselines and high pitched horns, remember always into something-NWA.... well remember that snoop met dre the same year Niggaz4life dropped, a few of the chronic tracks were 3 years old by the time they came out. now the confusion is that Warren G did bring it out too... and Dre made it popular. ill be honest thats up in the air for me....

i heard there was beef about the above the law album, they claim , it was their style first.

easy...

Draztik
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Coon on July 30, 2004, 08:01:00 PM
watchu know about Suburban Etiquette by Anttex on Tuff City?
straight funk dope jams...slick, sick lyricism and nice concepts...sharp, too fukkkkn sharp!!

i came across the album by accident (read: divine intervention) at jukebox in claremont...straight fukn dope from start to finish!! the beats are so big and ballsy, dude raps all crisp and schitt
"at the begining, in it to get wild
rip up schitt like a sharp projectile"

...too kwaai! wonder what happened! what´s really ill is how balanced the abum is, he got some schitt for the radio (which is still def), he got som schitt for cats that are into lyrics, some jokes...
skit about hammer in hammer voice, "i can tell by the way that you´re looking at my cock that you don´t have faith anymore!!"



[ This message was edited by: Coon on 30-07-2004 13:07 ]
Title: Don´t sleep on these
Post by: Coon on July 30, 2004, 08:09:00 PM
"i can tell that by the way tha way you are looking at my c o c k that you dont have faith anymore..."hammer.