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Title: Elite Lyricists in S.A
Post by: SIN on May 17, 2007, 01:46:58 PM: Here is an idea. Since cats is always claimin that they or their peoples are the dopest rappers around( I'm guilty of that and I mean it), I thought why not we upload 5 tracks of a dude we deem to be the illest and vote on em. The rapper that wins most categories will be crowned AG King/ Queen, and this debate can finall rest. Ma proposed categories are
1. Streets
2. Witty
3. Emotional/Real Life
4. Political/Conscious
5.Narrative/Situational
In all these categories the contestants would be judged on swagger, flow, delivery, conviction, content and most importantly LYRICISM.
Ma proposed rappers are Cone, Snazz, Tumi, Captain and Prokid.
Suggestion to make it credible are welcomed. All tracks should be up by next week Friday. I already have five of Cone's tracks.
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Post by: SIN on May 17, 2007, 02:24:23 PM: Wut a deal? Cats don't feel they or their favourite emcees can compete. Don't put up name of tracks. Submitt tracks for each category, so that we can listen and judge. I'll understand if cats don't wanna play, cause we don't play fair! ha ha
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Post by: Bondizzo on May 17, 2007, 02:28:40 PM: wheres the commercial section ? commercial hip hop is the biggest scene in hip hop
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Post by: rob_one on May 17, 2007, 03:10:09 PM: Good idea, but will it be taken up by the ma**es? :D
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Post by: kinetik on May 17, 2007, 10:04:23 PM: Quote from: "rob_one"
Good idea, but will it be taken up by the ma**es? :D
probably not :arrow:
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Post by: QUAN KATA on May 17, 2007, 10:51:30 PM: f*** being famous and shit..I mean I know cats in my area that will murder the likes of Flabba or Nemza and whoever else is big in S.A. I think the kat must be first of all must be lyrically inclined(no monotonous crap), Must have a skill of sparking controversy at any give moment in the game. And ofcourse must have the stature of an ill MC, I mean you must just get a glimpse of da kat and be intimidated....And frankly I dont see not one kat in the SA game that has that...Well Im not an SA underground expert but if theres a kat in da SA underground regime that has the lyrical capabilty to take on any kat from the USA underground or commercial, he should step up to the podium...Hate it or love, the US scene will always shape Mzansi hip hop one way or another
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Post by: entrytools on May 18, 2007, 10:48:59 AM: @ sin
are you talkin local cats or in general?
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Post by: Bondizzo on May 18, 2007, 10:54:34 AM: Quote from: "QUAN KATA"
f*** being famous and shit..I mean I know cats in my area that will murder the likes of Flabba or Nemza and whoever else is big in S.A. I think the kat must be first of all must be lyrically inclined(no monotonous crap), Must have a skill of sparking controversy at any give moment in the game. And ofcourse must have the stature of an ill MC, I mean you must just get a glimpse of da kat and be intimidated....And frankly I dont see not one kat in the SA game that has that...Well Im not an SA underground expert but if theres a kat in da SA underground regime that has the lyrical capabilty to take on any kat from the USA underground or commercial, he should step up to the podium...Hate it or love, the US scene will always shape Mzansi hip hop one way or another

listen to rhyme and reason this weekend, cash is suppose to battle some american cats
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Post by: Zee-Supreme on May 18, 2007, 06:36:16 PM: MY VOTE IS FOR MAGGZ
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Post by: Dpleezy on May 18, 2007, 07:17:25 PM: i'm going with KONFAB and Ben Sharpa (aka Kaptin).

(no suprise there).

"Ben Sharpa and KONFAB, two of the most inspired and agile lyricists in the world today..."

- Mary Anne Hobbs (BBC Radio 1).
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Post by: SIN on May 19, 2007, 12:24:55 PM: It can be commercial cats as well, though I don't know any cats locally that would qualify to be considered commercial, check the sales to see wut I mean. Dplanet has proposed Konfab and Captain, Zee has proposed Maggz. I got five of Cone's tracks for each category, if anyone else has tracks of dudes they feelin, then they should upload em by next week Friday. This is meant for AG peeps, not the 'ma**es'. I think the excercise will be a valuable one.
Title: Tek Neek - commercial or wat
Post by: tekneekzim on May 20, 2007, 06:38:49 AM: yo would you consider me comercial?

check this out

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=311479&T=1506

ive read a lot of interesting thingz about you guyz view on hip hop comercializm. ive personaly worked with quite a few cats i would highly consider commercial.

if you take a few secconds to sign up for a free acidplanet account i think youll see ALL the trax on the page

hola back at me guyz...would really luv sum feedback

tek
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Post by: Ghetto Rat on May 20, 2007, 12:27:34 PM: ZuluBoy takes it - hes my S.A. TuPac!
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Post by: Thornz on May 20, 2007, 03:52:36 PM: Im not uploadin anything but i feel captain b.shapa or major 'oh my god that nigga real' cone will take it... Or how bout we put konfab up against tumi (very different styles but both ill regardless)... Danm its during times like these when i wish kingpin was stil with us!
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Post by: Thornz on May 20, 2007, 03:58:00 PM: Infact Kingpin would fit in well but i cant upload so if anybody else got trax (tate?) that be great
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Post by: kinetik on May 20, 2007, 05:42:38 PM: Quote from: "Bondizzo"
listen to rhyme and reason this weekend, cash is suppose to battle some american cats
how did this go?
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Post by: Tebzah on May 21, 2007, 08:10:18 AM: I'll try by all means 2 upload the trax....my pick feature........
Konfab,Tumi,Syntax,prokid n Molemi(NW cat with hhp...ill)
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Post by: Bondizzo on May 21, 2007, 08:43:28 AM: I'll upload a killer track later tonight, not many people can compete commercially with my boys
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Post by: churchofthe latterdayLatte on May 21, 2007, 11:30:53 AM: I would have tossed Sfiso Sudan right in there, esp. in terms of politically inclined content- but where he at? Ngwenya too.

But now I must say I am an El Nino and Dla (Qha!)- [driemanskap] groupie. romance, politics n strait tell ya bizzness, whateva- them boys got it on lok!

what up AG
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Post by: VirginPussy on May 21, 2007, 03:12:27 PM: Quote from: "melanin latte"
I would have tossed Sfiso Sudan right in there, esp. in terms of politically inclined content- but where he at? Ngwenya too.

But now I must say I am an El Nino and Dla (Qha!)- [driemanskap] groupie. romance, politics n strait tell ya bizzness, whateva- them boys got it on lok!

what up AG

we are siamese twins gal joined by mental telepathy...i'm like wat happened to Sifiso Sudan, Masta Sips the lyrical Ngwenya?...those dudes knew their politics

:oops: sucks up to driemanskaap on some 'itsho into ngubani owabulala uBiko?'

Skwatta camp on Khut n joyn the politics track that was on point...
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Post by: SIN on May 21, 2007, 08:54:15 PM: Can we please stick to the script. Nominate peeps that can compete in all the said categories, and then upload the tracks for each category. We meant to listen to everybody and vote on em. Our subjective opinions don't matter. I'll upload Cone's five tracks soon.
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Post by: Tebzah on May 22, 2007, 12:14:50 PM: 1.Street (Prokid)

Listen 2 his verse on this song

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vk5ef6

2.Witty (KonFAB motherf***ks)

"Ha dimo a ntse a batla Tselane//Nna ne ke ntse ke mo tshwere///Ke mo pentse le matsele"
shit this songz has plenty qoutables....."I am more learned/leaned than the average surfer of the internet"
konfab is sick wit it!!!!!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/we7wnf

3.Emotional/Real life (Molemi)

Molemi__footprints.....eish this song leaves a lump in ma throat homie....realest track 2 come out the NW.Basically talkin about his struggles in life////did I tell u abt the hook??listen

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i1lkcy

4.Political Conscious (Tumi of the Volume)

Freedom remix....nice song I also liked the track he did with Sfiso Sudan(Once upon a time in Africa)......ohhh honorable mention Seventy six by tumi "This bastard gonn pay for gunning///n making mothers of the youngins"

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wjt4uy

Also check this .............

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ajd0od
Molemi

5.Narrative/Situational (Syntax)

Syntax n Fifi__Come again
I feel Syntax is an above average writer (I dont have any of his material besides this)....tight flow!!

http://www.sendspace.com/file/76oseg

Zee__Yeoville
Hiphop embodies poetry too right??well this poet rips it 4 me(talks about gettin mugged in yeoville)

LINK REMOVED/audio/zee-yeoville-mp3.html
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Post by: cash on May 22, 2007, 01:54:27 PM: :D ths shit is so f***ing funny!hahahahaahhahahhaha

its crazy how HEADS like giving dudes PROPS!
is this like your way of consoling each other cos whenever all these dudes drop albums they go WOOD! :lol: WOW!

this is what i keep sayin! these so called elite(WTF?) cats,for all they hard work!their fans give them PROPS!nothin more! DAMN!!!!

they dont COP the albums, or nothin! jus download and upload for others to share and give props too!

hahahahha!!!!!

THIS SHIT GOTTA STOP NIGGAS!

heres a category!
no.1 PLATINUM SELLIN cats!!! now that'd be elite huh!
or how bout
Street Hustlers
or
PROFIT MAKERS
or
BEST SWAGGER
MOST AWARDS COLLECTED!!!!
WORTH THE MOST PER SHOW!!!
BIGGEST BALLER!!!!

haha :lol: im jus shittin on yall!!!! :D
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Post by: churchofthe latterdayLatte on May 22, 2007, 01:56:18 PM: hola nuwe, miss. what tha deal. heard sfiso's in mothercity now actually.

yo cant kick sistas off the thread ngoba asina technology inclination. kutheni na!? we showin love still. and if cats have the tracks we on, then up them. thanks. :D :) :wink:
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Post by: cash on May 22, 2007, 01:57:15 PM: :D this shit gotta stop for real! :D
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Post by: Tebzah on May 23, 2007, 12:45:41 PM: ^^^^Eish....its the guy that calls SA the "Dirty Souf" :roll: :roll:
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Post by: Tebzah on May 23, 2007, 12:49:39 PM: SIN....wheres the Capone trax
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Post by: Zee-Supreme on June 01, 2007, 08:11:59 AM: Quote from: "cash"
:D this shit gotta stop for real! :D

You need to chill homey. Everybody know that you aint movin plats. Humble yourself cos you might catch a bad one....

Back to the proceedings

I Present to Maggzino

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX0WCuOHzag
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Post by: cash on June 01, 2007, 08:44:07 AM: this shit REALLY gotta stop :D
f*** you!
im the truth!
you know i aint lyin!
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Post by: blak boy on June 01, 2007, 12:20:36 PM: Just to conform to the set criteria, here is my list

Witty
Konfab...tshwara ose ke walebala skaftini and all that ish he says in the background, probably the most well rounded MC in SA, fits all categories

Street

Don't know how to answer this one
But I'll go For Kaptain, Hegemony is a street track, Cops hara**ing, rhymes about everything from politics and social ish, that is what the streets need to here,at least that's what i think

Most slwpt on MC has to be Vernon Viscus Though, Cat IS MADD Sick, "reverse time, i done that in slow mo digital with audi visuall, remote school of thought, where crews are bought over bars like quarts on the house. Total Sickness
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Post by: Bondizzo on June 01, 2007, 12:55:57 PM: dont most of those cats also fall into the broke category ?
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Post by: Dpleezy on June 01, 2007, 01:14:07 PM: Quote from: "Bondizzo"
dont most of those cats also fall into the broke category ?

there you go again obsessing over money :?
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Post by: **MORALE** on June 01, 2007, 01:51:23 PM: I VOTE FOR MY f***EN SELF.

CATCH MY TRACK ON THE NEW HYPE...

I'M OUT
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Post by: cash on June 01, 2007, 02:25:38 PM: trutth be told! there isnt a single cat in SA who qualifies for this ELITE title!

stop lyin niggas!

nobody in SA even has a hit!
how can u be an elite rapper without a single hit! no plats! no money! no solid TRACK RECORD! cmon!

at least im honest enough to say! i got goals. n i set them high!
dont put on that list until im pushin elite whips! rollin wit elite chicks! wit elite units sold! elite platinum cards! elite cribs! elite POWER!

then put me on the list!
give me two yrs!
holler!!!!!!!!

THIS SHIT REALLY GOTTA STOP! :D THE LIES! :D
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Post by: Dpleezy on June 01, 2007, 03:11:02 PM: this thread is called elite lyricists, not elite businessmen.

instead of looking at whips, bitches & jewels,,, look instead at originality, lyrical content, relevance of message, delivery etc - that is a better way to judge.

many truly great artists only get recognised after their death (van gogh for example) so talking about wealth has no bearing on skills.
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Post by: cash on June 01, 2007, 03:35:19 PM: then ur sayin these dudes lyrical ability has no effect on their regular lives?
they spit fire but outside of the booth they lukewarm!
they fierce on the mic, but in the real world they timid!
thay talk BIG on the tracks, but think small in the economic battlefield!
they ballers n pimps on records, but in reality,they scared of honeys!
theyre conquerors on wax n in cyphers, but outside of their lyrical prowess, they jus not GO GETTERS!
they can provide for the heads, but cant provide for their family's and generations to come!
they will be recognised when their dead, so theyve accepted defeat while they walk n breathe on earth!?

okay!
:?
now i understand!

then DO NOT EVER put me on this list!
:D
keep the props! im cool!
this seems like when the dude in the matrix snitches and goes undercover for the machines n he says..........ignorance is bliss........

so we are giving praise to all the cats who aint REAL! they jus SPIT NICE! but aint livin it on the daily! OK 8O