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Hip Hop Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: 5tHRSMN on July 03, 2007, 11:35:39 AM
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I am going through these posts, and it seems to me like a bad american site, all i see is "niggas" and "i be like" and whatever. Wher is the south african flavour? Or am I just looking for negativity? please help me understand this.
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Nice bra, nice...I wasn't dissing the site I was just asking what is happening here, maybe you guys should start looking at the inner self, you are probably a nigga hey? wsup dawg, you be hustling sum bricks, or whatever you idiots rave on about ha? you wear those OVERSIZED jeans/pants with another 4 pairs underneath that with your hat to the side or back, with another oversized jacket. You are him hey. Get yourself an Isaac Mutant CD, dan sal jy check, K@K in jou gevreet.
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I am going through these posts, and it seems to me like a bad american site, all i see is "niggas" and "i be like" and whatever. Wher is the south african flavour? Or am I just looking for negativity? please help me understand this.
:roll: :roll: .yep man I was so annoyed this week when an intern got in my office talking "Whatagwan".....I had 2 withold the urge of slappin the the hell out of him.Whatever happened 2 "holla_hoezit",,"heita_kunjani"??but hey I hear mzantsians have always copied the states mindset.
I'm expecting cash and his crusaiders 2 storm this thread n tell you "U straight up hatin B"
BOP said it better............Hase mo states mo..........rubbernecks!!!!!!!!! :evil:
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Nice bra, nice...I wasn't dissing the site I was just asking what is happening here, maybe you guys should start looking at the inner self, you are probably a nigga hey? wsup dawg, you be hustling sum bricks, or whatever you idiots rave on about ha? you wear those OVERSIZED jeans/pants with another 4 pairs underneath that with your hat to the side or back, with another oversized jacket. You are him hey. Get yourself an Isaac Mutant CD, dan sal jy check, K@K in jou gevreet.
sorry dog. i aint feelin isaac mutant!
SA is too diverse and global for you to say that.
Plus youre disrespecting the struggle Nelson Mandela went through so that everyone can say ,do and behave however they want and be able to practise that freedom! ur jus perpetuating your own TYPE of discrimination now that apartheid is over. THANKS A LOT FOR shittin on ALL that FREEDOM STANDS FOR!
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CLa**IC SHIT DEAC :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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hmm
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@ cash, when u shooting ur vid homez?
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I'm sure you don't feel Isaac thats probably because you have no idea What real is. I'm not going to explain it to you its just sorry to see and read and hear our own people not wnating to be from SA, you are infact the one perpetuating the spirit of apartheid because of you it is alive, because it shows to me(I don't know about the other people) that you are ashamed of who you are and wher you are from. I am not looking for an answer from you, but hopefully you are man enough to see that. I am also not looking for trouble here or attack from you guys. Just honesty, be honest with yourself, WHY OH WHY are we acting like we are americans, we should be setting standards not following.
Let me where I can get hold of music Cash so I can hear what you are for myself.
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BOP said it better............Hase mo states mo..........rubbernecks!!!!!!!!! :evil:
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Hase mo states se gat!!
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I'm the president of the isaac mutant fan club.
all you had to do was come out and say it :lol: :lol:
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Funny, I am still laughing at the fact that I ma gay and that i need to GTFO. I'm not the president I'm just a fan, but I guess you are probably another MC, are you? Why are you fighting me? Do you feel shame now that someone has actually said something about you and your mindless fux, that just be like yo man , i be f***ing som'n tonight and yo dudes is nice with the words or oh i be like, nah man, ima cop some'n,
Lastly I will leave you with the following, If Im straight hating, then all you guys must be Gay loving...
Allow the taste of my balls to simmer on your tongue
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Nice bra, nice...I wasn't dissing the site I was just asking what is happening here, maybe you guys should start looking at the inner self, you are probably a nigga hey? wsup dawg, you be hustling sum bricks, or whatever you idiots rave on about ha? you wear those OVERSIZED jeans/pants with another 4 pairs underneath that with your hat to the side or back, with another oversized jacket. You are him hey. Get yourself an Isaac Mutant CD, dan sal jy check, K@K in jou gevreet.
i think u shouldnt confuse AMERICAN culture with HIP HOP culture. Of course hip hop got to the rest of the world (mainly) through US influences so I guess the culture of the place of origin was kinda a**imilated into the lives of hip hop fans worldwide...its just like reggae or rasta culture any reggae fan knows what IRIE means, its Jamaican culture but its also become reggae culture...so wen a rasta goes ''IRIE'' u cant slam em for that on some ''hey, why dont u say SHARP and HOLA 7 u not proudly south african!'' thats their way of identitifyin themselves, hip hop has always been characterized by baggy clothes, and other forms of US streetculture which infiltated into hip hop fans own cultures. (especially considering the fact that b4 the 90s the only hip hop we had access to was american) i dont think SA has its own hip hop image yet cuz its still young n we still playin follow the leader lol.
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@ 5tHRSMN
"Imma show you just how stupid you being/ Are you tryin to be german if I see you in a B.M!
NOPE!
Then who's to say what langauge music should be in!
In the wise words of Proverb, take off "I am hip-hop"-Manuscript.
Try widen your CD collection before tryin to make statements :wink:
Explicit
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well...silly quote :lol: but yeah, sumn like that
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why even bother ex, this dude is a lame
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@ 5tHRSMN
"Imma show you just how stupid you being/ Are you tryin to be german if I see you in a B.M!
Is it just me or does anyone else think this is a stupid reply? I dare you to say that statement out loud...it is of no relevance at all. you could have said uhhm let me think, that if a person wears baggy clothing does it mean you are or want to be hiphop...that would've flown but not that statement about geerman cars...DUMBO!!!
thanx to thornz though, you made a valid point or a few points. I still don't agree with you though. But I suppose I should leave this cause I must've angered a few people now that they have realised what they are. Anyways, if you can sleep at night then thats cool.
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sakteboarders wear baggy clothes too by your a**umption they tryin to be hiphop too
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i have no idea what u guys are on about
guess i lost touch
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My question to you "5tHRSMN", why did you write the thread in pure imperial English. Where's the S.A flavour in YOU. I don't see it. I see another person who has the taste of consciousness, but who don't know the whole face. Hip Hop is Americanized man, it is in it self a manifestation of Americanization. However, it's a culture on it own. And culture does not (not necessarily) have colour, border, or whatever. E.g Rastafarians are all over the world, but you never had anyone saying Lucky Dube or any other rasta was copycat. Rastas use Jamaican Slang, Jamaicans adopted Ethopian tradition, Ooh f***, and the first Hip Hop beat was born from the Hands of a Jamaican. Hahaha. So now who's the copycat if Jamaicans are living on Ethopian tradition, and if Hip Hop was fathered by Jamiacan hands. Man, slang is not an issue, only if we still know where we from (meaning our own lingo's-like your sig- and traditions) and where we going we cool
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Ok calm down, calm down. Lets just close off this subject. and agree that alot of you new "artists" are fake.
Thank you and good bye untill another discussion. And some of you please try and actually open your mind and be honest, all I ask for is honesty not attacking me for asking a question
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Nah man, that's bad, you fail to eat reality. Anyway, am not an artist am just tired of hypocrites. And I wasn't attacking, was just trying to provide clarification, uyagcwala muntu wengedla
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IYO
and really all 5th did was ask a Q
damn yall is heartless sonsabitches
DAMN
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this dude is funny man!
everything he says is anti hiphop!
new "artists" are fake.
you could have said uhhm let me think, that if a person wears baggy clothing does it mean you are or want to be hiphop
I guess you are probably another MC, are you? Why are you fighting me? Do you feel shame now that someone has actually said something about you and your mindless fux, that just be like yo man , i be f***ing som'n tonight and yo dudes is nice with the words or oh i be like, nah man, ima cop some'n,
that you are ashamed of who you are and wher you are from. I am not looking for an answer from you, but hopefully you are man enough to see that. I am also not looking for trouble here or attack from you guys. Just honesty, be honest with yourself, WHY OH WHY are we acting like we are americans
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Beesting, thank you. You and maybe two other people ACTUALLY gave an answer, but the rest I don't know. Anyways for South African flavour in how i type is what, how do find that, where? I'm from the Cape Flats would you have prefered me typing soes daai my broe lat djy kan vistaan ma**e kin? Howmany would have understood what i'm saying? Anyway I still like what you said.
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Beesting, thank you. You and maybe two other people ACTUALLY gave an answer, but the rest I don't know.
welcome to AG ull never get a straight answer around here
infact the last time anyone was given a straight answer here was the year 1987 before AG
hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I'm from the Cape Flats would you have prefered me typing soes daai my broe lat djy kan vistaan ma**e kin? .
Ahosh, Awe, my ma se kin, vertel julle kabouters, Phakamisa :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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the answer to your retarded question is - NO!
this isnt really AFRICAS gateway. it is and always will be known as AFRICAS GAYWAY :lol: the home of Sensei Hate, Threadstalker, Yourself(the self appointed president of Isaac Mutant Groupies :lol: ) and the rest of us who participate in these hilariously gay threads! HAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!
welcome, as childakapoet says. AND please feel free to bend over so Deacon can put sum funny a** captions up your a**!!! :lol:
u gotta luv it! :wink:
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I been telling people for years Hip Hop is american when you put South African flavour your are no longer doing hip hop.do you think Americans can do Maskhandi with an American flavour? NOPE..same goes for hip hop there a bunch of dillusional people who fail to realize what Hip Hop is and what the Hip Hop culture is like trying South Africanise none South African shit..that why I don't listen to half of local Hip Hop coz its sounds like a bunch of confused artist.
BUT thats just me !!!
Peace
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sounds to me like you'd rather we all appropriate "coloured" culture, in which case, no thanks.
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sounds to me like you'd rather we all appropriate "coloured" culture, in which case, no thanks.
Kanti what is wrong wif colored culture? What happening to South Africans? Are we really failing to think independently, with our perspective not influenced by Soicety At Large.
Like BIG said:
"...Considered a fool cos I dropped out off high school
Stereotypes of a black man misunderstood but it's still all good"
And @Brick, S.A hip hop is Hip Hop dawg. Vernec is hip hip. And according to what I've seen and know, it does'nt have to be American or in English. English/America is not Hip Hop and Hip Hop is not America/English. Its hip hop. No beef, I know you got your own understanding but saying only American hip hop is the only real hip hop is foul, to some extent naive (no disrespect). For instance, a french speaking group once sold half a million album copies. So saying hip hip is English or American is foul.
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Kanti what is wrong wif colored culture? What happening to South Africans? Are we really failing to think independently, with our perspective not influenced by Soicety At Large.
nothing besides the fact that it's got absolutely nothing to do with me, as well as using a bastardized version of an already bastardized language i really detest (possibly even more than the one i'm typing in).
do you though :D .
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hip hop originated in america, its like saying british rock isn't rock
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on second thoughts, not possibly, but definitely.
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Look...I have my own understanding coz when I started listening to this shit it is what I called it...Hip Hop when asked to explain it i'd say "well it music made in the US Ghetto's by US Ghetto dwellers documenting life in the US Ghettos."..i'd be asked what I like about it..I'd say "well the drums...got this boom bap pattern that makes my head nod and also most I can relate to lives they live..they smoke what I smoke drink what I drink but essentially its they music....I appreciate it the same way you'd appreciate sould music U dig"...in 96 we were called amapunk or abom rapper or amafakeAmerican because true as shit it was American music we just happened to like it. When we cyphered we cyphered like American rappers even though we localized it instead of the Bronx it was the J or J-Section but what it was was emulating. if you bump the motherload(First Dopest 'SA' Hip Hop) the beats the style of rap etc was a carbon copy of Hip Hop of that era...know what fine i'll let it slide
but I still maintain that Hip Hop is the Bronx Music the same way Kwaito is the J music...tell me I see it wrong I won't argue.
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hip hop originated in america, its like saying british rock isn't rock
you making my point CLEARER..its the prefix..[insert group] Hip Hop
i never heard anyone say american hip hop infact the first time heard a prefix to Hip Hop was when some say SA Hip Hop and I was immediatly on some WHAT THE f***? tip I know of Hip Hop...no British Hip Hop...i have heard venec raps which I agree its raps in venc nerd rap but never Nerd Hip Hop and Venec Hip Hop..SA Hip Hop..what thats that like rapping in Afrikaans?
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Kanti what is wrong wif colored culture? What happening to South Africans? Are we really failing to think independently, with our perspective not influenced by Soicety At Large.
nothing besides the fact that it's got absolutely nothing to do with me, as well as using a bastardized version of an already bastardized language i really detest (possibly even more than the one i'm typing in).
do you though :D .
8O
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Kanti what is wrong wif colored culture? What happening to South Africans? Are we really failing to think independently, with our perspective not influenced by Soicety At Large.
nothing besides the fact that it's got absolutely nothing to do with me, as well as using a bastardized version of an already bastardized language i really detest (possibly even more than the one i'm typing in).
do you though :D .
Yeah I get where you coming from, okay am not a big fan Afrikaans either, but you must be able to differentiate the Afrikaans that is spoken in Cape Flats and the Boere Afrikaans. It ain't exactly the same. The Cape Flats lingo is street. Dis Kapse mense se taal. Dai ma se kind shit. You never had a boere saying that: "Ma se kind" (M'taka ma in Zulu, which is also used both as slang for girlfriend and original lingo for brother or sister, which in Cape Flats lingo means brother) Yet it is Afrikaans, but it the people's Afrikaans. Like J would say. Real recognize real.
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What man, you rather talk about broads, sneakers, gossip, and all the other ish only. Come on Deac.. man. Ish like this need to be addressed/discussed/debated. Unless the thread offends you. Or ethically or morally wrong?
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I think I'm getting bricks point, thats why you guys call it SA hip hop, its will always be a mimic of hip hop(USA)
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What man, you rather talk about broads, sneakers, gossip, and all the other ish only. Come on Deac.. man. Ish like this need to be addressed/discussed/debated. Unless the thread offends you. Or ethically or morally wrong?
No I'm simply statin the fact that we've had this arguement over and over again about ten times already with no conclusion, Its like beating a dead horse really
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What man, you rather talk about broads, sneakers, gossip, and all the other ish only. Come on Deac.. man. Ish like this need to be addressed/discussed/debated. Unless the thread offends you. Or ethically or morally wrong?
No I'm simply statin the fact that we've had this arguement over and over again about ten times already with no conclusion, Its like beating a dead horse really
Get you clearly dawg. One
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just another day on A.G folks, Hip Hop sparking up some ish, here we go again...like Biggie said " I was more like Again!"
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Get yourself an Isaac Mutant CD, dan sal jy check, K@K in jou gevreet.
5tHRSSMN is Isaac Mutant!!
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Hahaha funny but no I'm not Isaac, I'm way tighter, i'm as tight as uh lets say, prebubescent a**holes. En plustens ek spieg in afrikaans my broe, what is wrong with spitting in your mothertongue? I'm sure you are much more intelligent than the statement you made so I'll let you off the hook Kanti.
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