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Hip Hop Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: briCK on April 14, 2010, 08:55:27 AM
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Look I am no Black Power tryna give blacks the "History and Dignity that was once our" spewing type and I could give two shit s about people in general
BUT what wrong with being black?
I know black people have beef we have had beef since the begining of time and to give white people credit that they divided us is bullshit, white people just found a bunch of people with blood feuds from centuries ago, they just chose to the weaker of the two...by they I mean the whites people....and supported the weaker, then that one group one they rinsed and repeated till they...by they I mean the whites...pretty much ran shit!
laying on people's emotions especially when they are pa**ionate about how much they hate another group, I am deliberaty avoid using the word Tribe coz that word is white mischief at best
* clears throat *
Firstly the one thing I know about "black people" they don't see themselves as "black people" just earth dwelling pussy chasin...oh wait....wrong thread...
I digress..
the cla**ification of us as black and then as tribes or whatever is where I think the problem lies...
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so ur saying tribalism is the cause of our problems
i think its gunpowder! seriously without it they wudnt have won any battle!
anyway?
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which reminds of some ignorant shit i heard from Talib on a song after he had visited SA. He said theres war between a Biggie "tribe" and a Tupac "tribe" in SA.
I think he was referring to the gangsters in Gugs during that time, The Dog Pound (aka West Side) and the Moscow (a**ociated with the East Side). a period when gangster rap really did have a negative influence on some people.
anyway, carry on mabrigado ;D
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so ur saying tribalism is the cause of our problems
i think its gunpowder! seriously without it they wudnt have won any battle!
anyway?
err.. i think without the bible they wouldnt have at all in the end.
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No the thread aint about that..
I was about to delete it...anyway.
its about black people who embrace Europeans-ness
Of all the African Colonies and thier products....
I can't belive we got blacks who say they are French or Portuguese!
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I can understand saying I speak Potuguese or French...but to call yourself French???
Cummon...look the white people did a number on us..but IF we are still PROUD of bein Colonial Subjects does that not defeat the point of breaking the shakkles?
I stumbled across a white power site called stormfront...
there is a white guy who's signature says...
"No You are not English, English people are white"
Black Who's great-great grand parents where born in England or Whatever place THEY can say they English when they in England thats I Understand.
But a black person who does not even know how to spell France saying he is French is mind boggling to me.
Enter the Horror!
I was speaking to a colleague...and I say to him wow dude that pretty deep.
dude : I learnt that when I was in France"
briCK : Oh? you studied in France?
dude : Actually I am French!
briCK : Yeah? Funny I thought you were black!
dude : Of color yes but of culture no!
briCK : ??? what do you mean I am lost, were your parents born there or something?
dude : No I was born in the then Zaire now Congo....I went to france when I was 18.
briCK : So why do you say you French not whatever African Tribe you are?
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I can't belive we got blacks who say they are French or Portuguese!
dude!
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do you think being black is something inherent, that youre born with or something thats circumstantial, that youre raised with?
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do you think being black is something inherent, that youre born with or something thats circumstantial, that youre raised with?
not sure if i understand the question but...
it depends weather you buy the race concept or not. DNA research has proved it that this race thing is a lie, we are all one race but just different culturally. Some historians have explained it too how we could have developed difference skin colours and physical features in general.
but circumtances are a big deal in how we differ culturally.
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ok, so what about whites that called themselves south african, zimbabwean, zambian, namibian, AFRCIAN??
are they deluded?
i personally believe they have a right to be cla**ed as africans. but its just my opinion though.
so i think its equally within reason for blacks to be cla**ified under european citizens
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do you think being black is something inherent, that youre born with or something thats circumstantial, that youre raised with?
not sure if i understand the question but...
it depends weather you buy the race concept or not. DNA research has proved it that this race thing is a lie, we are all one race but just different culturally. Some historians have explained it too how we could have developed difference skin colours and physical features in general.
but circumtances are a big deal in how we differ culturally.
if you are talking science i think it goes deeper than just skin tone. there are physical features as well.
but these are all scientific explanations for something that was never meant to be defined in the first place.
scientifically speaking, african women are a lot more curvatious, especially below the waistline than their european counterparts. yet these days, afrikaaner women have developed shape below the waisteline as well. and a LOT of them now have a**es. it is a frightening development.
does this mean they are african now?
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scientifically speaking, african women are a lot more curvatious, especially below the waistline than their european counterparts. yet these days, afrikaaner women have developed shape below the waisteline as well. and a LOT of them now have a**es. it is a frightening development.
does this mean they are african now?
i seent that too.
but then i think brick speaks of black as opposed to african
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do you think being black is something inherent, that youre born with or something thats circumstantial, that youre raised with?
not sure if i understand the question but...
it depends weather you buy the race concept or not. DNA research has proved it that this race thing is a lie, we are all one race but just different culturally. Some historians have explained it too how we could have developed difference skin colours and physical features in general.
but circumtances are a big deal in how we differ culturally.
cosign
fixed :)
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scientifically speaking, african women are a lot more curvatious, especially below the waistline than their european counterparts. yet these days, afrikaaner women have developed shape below the waisteline as well. and a LOT of them now have a**es. it is a frightening development.
does this mean they are african now?
i seent that too.
but then i think brick speaks of black as opposed to african
i noticed that he said black as opposed to african. but he had a problem with a black man saying he was french.
so i raised the question of white people saying they were namibian (african).
i struggle to see the problem with that
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do you think being black is something inherent, that youre born with or something thats circumstantial, that youre raised with?
not sure if i understand the question but...
it depends weather you buy the race concept or not. DNA research has proved it that this race thing is a lie, we are all one race but just different culturally. Some historians have explained it too how we could have developed difference skin colours and physical features in general.
but circumtances are a big deal in how we differ culturally.
cosign
fixed :)
lol
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Asking a "what about white this or that" on a thread about ..black will throw us off the point of THIS particular thread.
I am talking on a level of INDOCTRINATION..whites are African by Choice!
a south african white person will tell quick fast that he is Greek, Welsh or whatever...
Please lets not Gay this this Thread with unessesary "let define this or that?"
I am talking about
a Negroid Calling themself European!
Any way
I proceed to ask dude
I am like dude..Congo the DEEP DARK Congo...the BLACKEST part of the COntinent,,,,you telling me there are no blacks speak Deep Jungle Monkey speech?
YOUR FRENCHness hold no water..
The He starts a sad sad sad SAD SAD story
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born in Angola and you call yourself Portuguese is ridiculous.
born in Portugal and call yourself Portuguese is correct. it can indicate a problem if you don't acknowledge that you're African/black though.
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born in Angola and you call yourself Portuguese is ridiculous.
born in Portugal and call yourself Portuguese is correct. it can indicate a problem if you don't acknowledge that you're African/black though.
This is the point of the thread..
THANKS for simplifying it..I am the least articulate person and my concentration span is small...I go round in circles!
Do People not see Anything Wrong with that?
its like Zimbabweans or Zambians or any other form British Colonies calling themselves British! isn't it?
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born in Angola and you call yourself Portuguese is ridiculous.
born in Portugal and call yourself Portuguese is correct. it can indicate a problem if you don't acknowledge that you're African/black though.
This is the point of the thread..
THANKS for simplifying it..I am the least articulate person and my concentration span is small...I go round in circles!
Do People not see Anything Wrong with that?
its like Zimbabweans or Zambians or any other form British Colonies calling themselves British! isn't it?
this, i understand
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Frantz Fanon wrote an entire book on this in 1952 called 'Black Skin, White Mask'. personally, i think it hasnt aged well and has always been problematic, but it probably has the kind of answers youre looking for.
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Frantz Fanon wrote an entire book on this in 1952 called 'Black Skin, White Mask'. personally, i think it hasnt aged well and has always been problematic, but it probably has the kind of answers youre looking for.
his books! i tried a few years ago and lost the battle, i should actually start again
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Frantz Fanon wrote an entire book on this in 1952 called 'Black Skin, White Mask'. personally, i think it hasnt aged well and has always been problematic, but it probably has the kind of answers youre looking for.
his books! i tried a few years ago and lost the battle, i should actually start again
the battle to understand what he says?
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Frantz Fanon wrote an entire book on this in 1952 called 'Black Skin, White Mask'. personally, i think it hasnt aged well and has always been problematic, but it probably has the kind of answers youre looking for.
his books! i tried a few years ago and lost the battle, i should actually start again
the battle to understand what he says?
effectively! i was in school then.
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Frantz Fanon wrote an entire book on this in 1952 called 'Black Skin, White Mask'. personally, i think it hasnt aged well and has always been problematic, but it probably has the kind of answers youre looking for.
his books! i tried a few years ago and lost the battle, i should actually start again
the battle to understand what he says?
effectively! i was in school then.
I tried to read one this year, i went over my heard.
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I can't belive we got blacks who say they are French or Portuguese!
dude!
With Afropeans, I can understand that they want to be known by their nationality,
but they should not deny their African roots. I don't care if their descendants are
from Africa or if they are Afro-Caribbean, or Afro-American (note when I say Afro-American, I don't just mean the United States, I also include Brazil, Bolivia, Peru, Guyana, Mexico, Honduras, Ecuador, Canada, Venezuela, Colombia, etc.) People of
African descent are all over and they shouldn't deny their roots!!
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born in Angola and you call yourself Portuguese is ridiculous.
born in Portugal and call yourself Portuguese is correct. it can indicate a problem if you don't acknowledge that you're African/black though.
This is the point of the thread..
THANKS for simplifying it..I am the least articulate person and my concentration span is small...I go round in circles!
Do People not see Anything Wrong with that?
its like Zimbabweans or Zambians or any other form British Colonies calling themselves British! isn't it?
They dont want to loook lyk real africans,
Am from Tanzania(Former British Colony) But am proud that am African, Born and Raised in Africa (Where people Hustle 24/7/365)
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One kid saying to another darker skinned freind.
"Dude, you not dark skinned, you are one big mole!"
roofless...kids I tell you
I use public transport...I don't busses coz there is plethora of school kids annoying the shit out of me, we should have an island...toss these kids there, when they old enough to think they way off the island only then can they join us.
Anyway they talking bout school subjects,
kid1 : Why did you choose Zulu instead of Afrikaans?
kid2 : Zulu is useless, what will I do with it after schoool
kid1 : What will you do with Afrikaans?
kid2 : White people still use Afrikaans?
wow...IS IT THAT BAD BEING BLACK? or speaking / learning a black language!
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i know that in s.a if you are black you say that you are from an african country people call makwerekwere and what not but if you are black and say that you are from europe you get the same treament as white european...i was born in paris and spent my childhood there and @ 13 years i came back to africa by no means i consider myself french...
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actually f*** it, why is it necessary to tag a person. instead of being black, white, european, african what ever the f*** u have. why cant u just be.
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actually f*** it, why is it necessary to tag a person. instead of being black, white, european, african what ever the f*** u have. why cant u just be.
Coz we live on Planet Earth and not Euthopia...take it for what it is and keep it moving!
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actually f*** it, why is it necessary to tag a person. instead of being black, white, european, african what ever the f*** u have. why cant u just be.
Coz we live on Planet Earth and not Euthopia...take it for what it is and keep it moving!
But what exactly is it? What are you trying to prove here?
Do you consider yourself black? Or more black than the next guy? And if you do, why? And according to who's criteria?
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actually f*** it, why is it necessary to tag a person. instead of being black, white, european, african what ever the f*** u have. why cant u just be.
Coz we live on Planet Earth and not Euthopia...take it for what it is and keep it moving!
But what exactly is it? What are you trying to prove here?
Do you consider yourself black? Or more black than the next guy? And if you do, why? And according to who's criteria?
and there in lies the problem, who has the taggin blueprint? who wrote the book on whats real and what isnt? i feel the worlds problem with tolerance emanates from this very issue of tagging.
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Its stupidity really.
Lets face it, even if we were ALL black, or ALL african...within the context, some dumb ma'f***er would look for something else to prejudice the next nigga. "Yo, this niggas hair grows too straight, shit aint course enough. He cant be a real african."
Can we just close this thread already.
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@RiGgZ
Please lets not Gay this this Thread with unessesary "let define this or that?"
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@RiGgZ
Please lets not Gay this this Thread with unessesary "let define this or that?"
Dawg, what kind of a response would you be looking for then? Not everybody is going to ride you dick on this one, so dont narrow down the platform and exclude yourself from criticism or question.
You opened this thread on a public platform, looking for a debate right? If not, then close this thread and GTFO!
Rather post this shit on a forum where you can post your flawed opinions and the retards there will agree to everything you say without "Gaying out" the thread with valid questions.
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The worst thing about being black is that tattoos don't stand out so well. You also can't get colour or white in your tattoos. That sucks.
You also have more trouble getting loans.
I got rejected by two banks when I applied for a home loan. Only Absa seems to give loans to blacks.
Oh, wait, I'm also probably not black according to AG standards.
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When I googled blackest man alive, it would seem it is a toss up between James Brown, Ron Artest and Wesley Snipes.
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When I googled blackest man alive, it would seem it is a toss up between James Brown, Ron Artest and Wesley Snipes.
Djimon Hounsou?? (Give us, us free nigga??)
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The worst thing about being black is that tattoos don't stand out so well. You also can't get colour or white in your tattoos. That sucks.
im saying tho. plus the tattooist seems to think he can do a shoddy job just cos shit will blend in to ur blackness. with that said anyone know a place where the tattoo blacks properly? in joburg?
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@RiGgZ
Please lets not Gay this this Thread with unessesary "let define this or that?"
Dawg, what kind of a response would you be looking for then? Not everybody is going to ride you dick on this one, so dont narrow down the platform and exclude yourself from criticism or question.
You opened this thread on a public platform, looking for a debate right? If not, then close this thread and GTFO!
Rather post this shit on a forum where you can post your flawed opinions and the retards there will agree to everything you say without "Gaying out" the thread with valid questions.
I was not looking to debate things like "what is Black and what is African" cause we will go round in circles before we get to any point if we do at all.
Its My thread and I can put justified limitations.
Here is the question.
Is the anything wrong with a black person born in Africa calling themselves portuguese?
If then someone say as a response "yeah but what is black?" do think we will get anywhere?
so I say "we know what those words mean lets work from there"
or else we will have pages of back and forth shit.
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There is a problem, I think.
It's like Hispanic Americans referring to themselves as Spanish, when real spaniards see them as nothing more than monkeys.
Be proud of who you are.
Say it loud!
Black and proud!!
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The worst thing about being black is that tattoos don't stand out so well. You also can't get colour or white in your tattoos. That sucks.
im saying tho. plus the tattooist seems to think he can do a shoddy job just cos shit will blend in to ur blackness. with that said anyone know a place where the tattoo blacks properly? in joburg?
its called prison :D
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http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61547
Above is what I am talking bout.....do people who say we can't cla**ify say they understand this?
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http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61547
Above is what I am talking bout.....do people who say we can't cla**ify say they understand this?
So his affilliation with the AWB means he is not black?
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There is a problem, I think.
It's like Hispanic Americans referring to themselves as Spanish, when real spaniards see them as nothing more than monkeys.
Be proud of who you are.
Say it loud!
Black and proud!!
True, Hispanics (or Latinos, whatever they want to be called) are Mestizo (European and Native American), Zombo (African and Native American), or mixed with all races (including Asian, Asians were brought over as slaves after Africans were freed). Most
White Americans and some Latinos are confused why Latinos are lighter or darker than others. I always ask them, which country in the Americas has the most Black people? When I give them the answer (which is Brazil), they seemed shocked because I tell them that Brazil was the last country in the Americas that abolished
slavery for Blacks. Most Americans thought that slavery was only in the US.
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Most Americans are idiots.
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http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61547
Above is what I am talking bout.....do people who say we can't cla**ify say they understand this?
So his affilliation with the AWB means he is not black?
You are clearly missing what I am tryna ask...its my fault my grasp of English is weak...let it slide.
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I have a Christain angle that I wanna get at but Christains are just not the nicest people so I'll leave the Christian shit out of this
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http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61547
Above is what I am talking bout.....do people who say we can't cla**ify say they understand this?
So his affilliation with the AWB means he is not black?
You are clearly missing what I am tryna ask...its my fault my grasp of English is weak...let it slide.
Why dont you make an effort to articulate yourself, in simple English so that you can be understood. I personally dont see the point of this thread if you fail to bring your point across.
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Most Americans are idiots.
agreed. Don't get me started on the Football issue. lol
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I have a Christain angle that I wanna get at but Christains are just not the nicest people so I'll leave the Christian shit out of this
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who gives a f*** about those simians go in
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I have a Christain angle that I wanna get at but Christains are just not the nicest people so I'll leave the Christian shit out of this
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who gives a f*** about those simians go in
Please don't!
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I have a Christain angle that I wanna get at but Christains are just not the nicest people so I'll leave the Christian shit out of this
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who gives a f*** about those simians go in
Please don't!
here we go again, are you scared were gonna offend the baby jesus
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I was speaking to a colleague...and I say to him wow dude that pretty deep.
dude : I learnt that when I was in France"
briCK : Oh? you studied in France?
dude : Actually I am French!
briCK : Yeah? Funny I thought you were black!
dude : Of color yes but of culture no!
briCK : ??? what do you mean I am lost, were your parents born there or something?
dude : No I was born in the then Zaire now Congo....I went to france when I was 18.
briCK : So why do you say you French not whatever African Tribe you are?
Errr I think to some extent u are confusing race with nationality. I can be black and french at the same time. French is a nationality.
Formal definition from wiki:
* The legal residents and citizens of France, regardless of ancestry.
* People whose ancestors lived in France or the area that later became France.
To be French, according to the first article of the Constitution, is to be a citizen of France, regardless of one's origin, race, or religion (sans distinction d'origine, de race ou de religion).
If somebody is black and they say they're french, provided they meet the requirements as stated above, then there is nothing wrong with that, he would be correct to call himself french. It has nothing to do with his race. Unless u asked him a direct question like "what race or colour r u"?
Gael Monfils is referred to as a french tennis player and he's black. That's his nationality, he's from France.
But I know what u mean with certain ppl a**ociating themselves with certain nationalities and even races even if they don't qualify. Damn wannabes, can't be and will never be >:( >:(
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http://www.avcom.co.za/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=61547
Above is what I am talking bout.....do people who say we can't cla**ify say they understand this?
So his affilliation with the AWB means he is not black?
You are clearly missing what I am tryna ask...its my fault my grasp of English is weak...let it slide.
Why dont you make an effort to articulate yourself, in simple English so that you can be understood. I personally dont see the point of this thread if you fail to bring your point across.
English is not my home language and I am not white, I will not waste my energy and time tryna learn it to the T. If you don't understand what i am typing then so be it.
I am done addressing you directly.
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Most Americans are idiots.
agreed. Don't get me started on the Football issue. lol
i wanna know about the football issue
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I heard a rumour that Alicia Keyes was asked to write a song for the WC, but Fifa retracted the request when they realised she doesn't even know who Beckham is.
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I heard a rumour that Alicia Keyes was asked to write a song for the WC, but Fifa retracted the request when they realised she doesn't even know who Beckham is.
LMAO read about this aswell, it was supposed to be her and Jayz but they both didn't know much bout soccer
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Lmao, keys is ignorant, Beckham is too famous even outside the football world, even Obama the most preoccupied man on the states knws dude. what happend with Akon?
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Lmao, keys is ignorant, Beckham is too famous even outside the football world, even Obama the most preoccupied man on the states knws dude. what happend with Akon?
Not true I only learnt about Will.I.am this year...and he is famous...
does that make me ignorant?
no ... some famous people other people don't give a shit about!
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Then that wud mean u have no idea what that thez a hip hop group called Black eye peas, pity coz i wanted to knw ur opinion about feggie's eyes, u not ignorant bra, actually u utterly pathetic and a threat to urself, i dont knw who canibus or Tupac is, matta fact who the f*** is Biggy?
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I was gonna comment and explain the significance of the BEPs, but then I realised it is Sandile Sfebe we are responding to.
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Most Americans are idiots.
agreed. Don't get me started on the Football issue. lol
i wanna know about the football issue
With American Football, it weird that we call it "football" when the only time we
kick it is when we make a field goal. Most of the time, we make pa**es with our
hands. We should've called it American Rugby.