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Full line up will follow shortly but so far confirmed...
Black Moss
Skye Wanda
Tumi
Zulu Boy
Zaki Ibrahim
The Glitz Gang
HHP
Who's gonna miss this and why... ;)
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So far the only two people on that list that I am interested in seeing are Tumi and Zaki.
Not sure I'll bother to make the trip if the rest of the line up resembles what is currently on offer.
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Will be there. no doubt, theres usually all kinds of other shit to enjoy there aside from the artist line up.
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ya, not quite as dope as last year. well see.
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
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And pussy markets? loose Bishes? cheap booze? my major concerns in this...
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cheap booze?
No booze breh.
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
I mos def will be having a drink at Capellos, Will see you there you won't miss me, that nigga thats gon walk in and make you weak in the knees that will be me, the one gives you urge to throw you clothes off for :-* i'll even have a cocktail with you, on you though I don't play that buying females drinks shit!
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
Do you mean Soweto Depp? Coz they playing this year. Do they go around creeping on ladies? Tell me, coz I can get them banned :)
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
Do you mean Soweto Depp? Coz they playing this year. Do they go around creeping on ladies? Tell me, coz I can get them banned :)
>:( snitch!
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Eish briCK.
I don't drink cocktails and I got money in "phuck you" quantities so you ain't gotta worry about anything material I may want.
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LOL @ Soweto Big/Soweto Deep. hehehehe.
It's "Deep Soweto" people.
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Eish briCK.
I don't drink cocktails and I got money in "phuck you" quantities so you ain't gotta worry about anything material I may want.
ha ha ha ha ha! I got money in "phuck you" quantities
ay thats deep. ay brick. u been son'ed big time
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
Do you mean Soweto Depp? Coz they playing this year. Do they go around creeping on ladies? Tell me, coz I can get them banned :)
That's the one... No shame they were just very aggressive in their approach. None of that "could you please buy our disc?' NOPE More like 'thenga le cd man.' Tjo we felt so violated but then again it could be that I was really really stoned out my mind and I was seeing things ???
So they're performing this year. I'd really love to see them actually cause last year we had no idea what to expect. They were in skinny jeans and baggy tops and their cd cover was just black.
@ Brick...I don't do pink drinks. 8)
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LOL @ Soweto Big/Soweto Deep. hehehehe.
It's "Deep Soweto" people.
;D yeah these guys.
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Add to that:
Prokid
Archetypes
Ill Skillz
I'm with RR on this, there's a lot to see and do:
Films
Ritual Pop up store
Workshop
Networking
A few drinks at Capello
Ended up doing just that last year and I have a feeling that's what I'll be doing this year too. Not the kind of thing I'd do more than once. Blackroze and I got hara**ed by Soweto Big or something like that... Scary shit. But we'll have tow ait and see.
Do you mean Soweto Depp? Coz they playing this year. Do they go around creeping on ladies? Tell me, coz I can get them banned :)
>:( snitch!
Just creating a safe environment for the ladies, Though I know the cute bwois also have it rough ;D
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hahahaha!!!
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Maybe this year they should have Liquid Chefs are something cause I'd really like to sit under a gazebo, sip on a drink and watch the show all at once instead of having to walk to Capellos and faintly listen to music while trying to fend off nasty looking BEE daddys.
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baldi, youre a legend! haha! a gazebo babes.
what a random day. what a day. you reminded me. im like damn. we were standing around like uhm...
on memorable and bizarre first times like okay well, nice to meet you. and youre my friend for the day.
i dont know if i can do it again.
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How many Agians are actually going?
I'd like to know if it will be worth me making the trip. If there are enough of you there, I will do it. Would like to see Baldi's boobses again.
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So Nat, check this...I was extending the offer to have the priviledge to by me a drink at baldi, but seeing as you will be there too and you got buckets off cash you too can have the honor to buy me a pink drink...
I don't do beer no-more......too ghetto and cla**less I am rolling in cash no need for me to act poor.
See ya there and Baldi... :P
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So Nat, check this...I was extending the offer to have the priviledge to by me a drink at baldi, but seeing as you will be there too and you got buckets off cash you too can have the honor to buy me a pink drink...
I don't do beer no-more......too ghetto and cla**less I am rolling in cash no need for me to act poor.
See ya there and Baldi... :P
How is it that you're the one rolling in cash yet I'm the one expected to pay for the drinks? I'm poor. I'm gonna be loafing off your rich a**. So expect a "Please call BROKE AT CAPELLOS on 084778****" that day. No joke.
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where's Iaepetus, yo?
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*so good at speaking out of turn, sies Nat*
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Mr C do you have anything from Deep Soweto?
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^^^ got the first mixtape.
You should have bought when they forced you to ! ;D
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^^^ got the first mixtape.
You should have bought when they forced you to ! ;D
LOL Yah no shame I was not sure about it.Looked dodgy to me and I was not about to whip out my wallet in front of those guys. No sorry. So how about you give me a listen :D
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utywala buyangena na?
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^^^ got the first mixtape.
You should have bought when they forced you to ! ;D
LOL Yah no shame I was not sure about it.Looked dodgy to me and I was not about to whip out my wallet in front of those guys. No sorry. So how about you give me a listen :D
I'll have to get permission first. ;D Phela Deep Soweto aint nothing to f*** with. LOL !!! But the manager is a friend of a friend,so i will halla. Don't even know if i still got the mixtape. Too much music.
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utywala buyangena na?
Naya, Nope, but people always have stuff in their car and as has been established, take the walk to Capello.
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where's Iaepetus, yo?
yeh, i'd like to check them out
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So Nat, check this...I was extending the offer to have the priviledge to by me a drink at baldi, but seeing as you will be there too and you got buckets off cash you too can have the honor to buy me a pink drink...
I don't do beer no-more......too ghetto and cla**less I am rolling in cash no need for me to act poor.
See ya there and Baldi... :P
How is it that you're the one rolling in cash yet I'm the one expected to pay for the drinks?
hehehehe how do you think I stay rolling in cash? I don't spend my paper! other people support my habits!
But you I like so i'll leave my cheap tendecies behind JUST once!
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So Nat, check this...I was extending the offer to have the priviledge to by me a drink at baldi, but seeing as you will be there too and you got buckets off cash you too can have the honor to buy me a pink drink...
I don't do beer no-more......too ghetto and cla**less I am rolling in cash no need for me to act poor.
See ya there and Baldi... :P
How is it that you're the one rolling in cash yet I'm the one expected to pay for the drinks?
hehehehe how do you think I stay rolling in cash? I don't spend my paper! other people support my habits!
But you I like so i'll leave my cheap tendecies behind JUST once!
Yey.. I guess I'll be there then. Can't let that opportunity pa**.
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baldi i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be pleasant towards you.
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baldi i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be plasant towards you.
WTF?
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sindiwe i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be plasant towards you.
WTF?
is there something you dont understand?
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sindiwe i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be plasant towards you.
WTF?
is there something you dont understand?
LMAO nigga ain't that her government name??
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sindiwe i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be plasant towards you.
WTF?
is there something you dont understand?
LMAO nigga ain't that her government name??
oh shit.! :'(
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sindiwe i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be plasant towards you.
WTF?
is there something you dont understand?
LMAO nigga ain't that her government name??
oh shit.! :'(
nc nc nc niggers.
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Deep Soweto - I remember meeting these cats and they tried to make me cop a disc. So i asked them to drop me a freestyle since I had never heard their ish before. They refused. So I said can I c=bump your ish in my car. They said yes, Went into the car and drove off planning to come back later and never did.
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Deep Soweto - I remember meeting these cats and they tried to make me cop a disc. So i asked them to drop me a freestyle since I had never heard their ish before. They refused. So I said can I c=bump your ish in my car. They said yes, Went into the car and drove off planning to come back later and never did.
nigga u a damn thief!
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im gona be there lukin for Ag niccas to beat and drnk with, il wear a Tshirt with my name on it!
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Would have liked to meet you cats and mollies in person but ya'll are drinking at Cappello's!!! :o Thixo!!!
There's a spot not so far from the show venue that sells Castle Lager quarts for R12 or so, with R60 bucks I get 5, with R140 I get a ten. That's my plan.
Which reminds me, there's this place in Braamfontein called Pantsula bites, very bujwa (I can't spell it in the queen's language) and many students party there, ey some "student budgets". Anyway, some of us first buy qaurtz at Veers get drunk and then hit the spot with some qaurtz smuggled in.
Tried this shit at some 3rd wave and The Federation show ko spotong. Shit, the bouncer spotted us and damn wachitha utywala bethu sa... sa... sangakwazi ukutshintsh'icolour. Screw that Bricks line.
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Nicca then hook me up, i wana spend my loot in a worthy spot, castle is my sht but ima need windhoek first, pm me n we'll hook up, rest of these ag cats can join in, bring ur own cash, its gon be fun!
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Would have liked to meet you cats and mollies in person but ya'll are drinking at Cappello's!!! :o Thixo!!!
There's a spot not so far from the show venue that sells Castle Lager quarts for R12 or so, with R60 bucks I get 5, with R140 I get a ten. That's my plan.
Which reminds me, there's this place in Braamfontein called Pantsula bites, very bujwa (I can't spell it in the queen's language) and many students party there, ey some "student budgets". Anyway, some of us first buy qaurtz at Veers get drunk and then hit the spot with some qaurtz smuggled in.
Tried this shit at some 3rd wave and The Federation show ko spotong. Shit, the bouncer spotted us and damn wachitha utywala bethu sa... sa... sangakwazi ukutshintsh'icolour. Screw that Bricks line.
Yeah the good life when I was a student before I started working I used to do this shit too.
There is always a tavern next which ever venue you go to.
We used to club at 206.
we would buy one dumpi, drink it go to the tarvern next door buy a kort pour the contents into the dumpie bottles and go back into the club. at times we kept the empty dumpie for the next week...shoe string bugjet life .
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Besides RR is there anyone else coming from CT to attend Back to the City?
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Besides RR is there anyone else coming from CT to attend Back to the City?
Is anyone driving to Jo'burg?
If so, who is pa**ing through Bloem? I don't wanna drive up there myself, so please give me a ride.
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Besides RR is there anyone else coming from CT to attend Back to the City?
Is anyone driving to Jo'burg?
If so, who is pa**ing through Bloem? I don't wanna drive up there myself, so please give me a ride.
I'm driving and I'll be pa**ing Bloem but my car is full of all sorts of crap (tl tl tl ) and you have a fat a** so there's no way I can squeeze you in. If you were smaller maybe but sorry buddy.
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baldi i kindly ask that you change that picture u are using as you avatar. it makes me not want to be pleasant towards you.
sotrue.co.za lmao
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Would have liked to meet you cats and mollies in person but ya'll are drinking at Cappello's!!! :o Thixo!!!
There's a spot not so far from the show venue that sells Castle Lager quarts for R12 or so, with R60 bucks I get 5, with R140 I get a ten. That's my plan.
Which reminds me, there's this place in Braamfontein called Pantsula bites, very bujwa (I can't spell it in the queen's language) and many students party there, ey some "student budgets". Anyway, some of us first buy qaurtz at Veers get drunk and then hit the spot with some qaurtz smuggled in.
Tried this shit at some 3rd wave and The Federation show ko spotong. Shit, the bouncer spotted us and damn wachitha utywala bethu sa... sa... sangakwazi ukutshintsh'icolour. Screw that Bricks line.
Pantsula Bites!! thats by Veers isn't it??? darkie thats over the bridge! clearly uba ufuna ukuba economical u shud jus buy liqour by the tray/case whatever u prefer and drink from the whip! qha uhambhe uyoshaya iGla** pha eCappello's for the mischief factor ;D
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dnt even know the road to joburg, bt i got my niks to help me out, my friendz whip is the truth speedwise, we got long pape f*** cheap booze we gon buy everythng, Brick hook ag niks with bishes, got a UJ attendant so im covered!
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Would have liked to meet you cats and mollies in person but ya'll are drinking at Cappello's!!! :o Thixo!!!
There's a spot not so far from the show venue that sells Castle Lager quarts for R12 or so, with R60 bucks I get 5, with R140 I get a ten. That's my plan.
Which reminds me, there's this place in Braamfontein called Pantsula bites, very bujwa (I can't spell it in the queen's language) and many students party there, ey some "student budgets". Anyway, some of us first buy qaurtz at Veers get drunk and then hit the spot with some qaurtz smuggled in.
Tried this shit at some 3rd wave and The Federation show ko spotong. Shit, the bouncer spotted us and damn wachitha utywala bethu sa... sa... sangakwazi ukutshintsh'icolour. Screw that Bricks line.
Pantsula Bites!! thats by Veers isn't it??? darkie thats over the bridge! clearly uba ufuna ukuba economical u shud jus buy liqour by the tray/case whatever u prefer and drink from the whip! qha uhambhe uyoshaya iGla** pha eCappello's for the mischief factor ;D
i was about to say. we looked everywhere around the area for a spot. cats be pushing voortrekker missions, yo :D
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Panic i wana c u nicca, whats gud? want u to show me deacon and lord pyro
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Besides RR is there anyone else coming from CT to attend Back to the City?
Is anyone driving to Jo'burg?
If so, who is pa**ing through Bloem? I don't wanna drive up there myself, so please give me a ride.
I'm driving and I'll be pa**ing Bloem but my car is full of all sorts of crap (tl tl tl ) and you have a fat a** so there's no way I can squeeze you in. If you were smaller maybe but sorry buddy.
You say such mean things. And here I was hoping to see you again and marvel at your boobage.
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Besides RR is there anyone else coming from CT to attend Back to the City?
Is anyone driving to Jo'burg?
If so, who is pa**ing through Bloem? I don't wanna drive up there myself, so please give me a ride.
I'm driving and I'll be pa**ing Bloem but my car is full of all sorts of crap (tl tl tl ) and you have a fat a** so there's no way I can squeeze you in. If you were smaller maybe but sorry buddy.
You say such mean things. And here I was hoping to see you again and marvel at your boobage.
Funny enough I was gonna call you when I get to Bloem and I did consider giving you a lift but then I thought you might want to drive so you can drive back cause I'm not driving back. And I'm being for real though. I'll let you know if there's space just before I leave.
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Im bringing Queens nikaz on a Siyaya whip, i really want to touch atleast one ag nika o that loks chck, i aint playin with ya'll nikaz, Touarag is my nika!
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Would have liked to meet you cats and mollies in person but ya'll are drinking at Cappello's!!! :o Thixo!!!
There's a spot not so far from the show venue that sells Castle Lager quarts for R12 or so, with R60 bucks I get 5, with R140 I get a ten. That's my plan.
Which reminds me, there's this place in Braamfontein called Pantsula bites, very bujwa (I can't spell it in the queen's language) and many students party there, ey some "student budgets". Anyway, some of us first buy qaurtz at Veers get drunk and then hit the spot with some qaurtz smuggled in.
Tried this shit at some 3rd wave and The Federation show ko spotong. Shit, the bouncer spotted us and damn wachitha utywala bethu sa... sa... sangakwazi ukutshintsh'icolour. Screw that Bricks line.
Pantsula Bites!! thats by Veers isn't it??? darkie thats over the bridge! clearly uba ufuna ukuba economical u shud jus buy liqour by the tray/case whatever u prefer and drink from the whip! qha uhambhe uyoshaya iGla** pha eCappello's for the mischief factor ;D
Yeah, Pantsula is next to Veers. And to think there were some chicks who wanted me to buy them drinks there, mxim. But ya unyanisile Koli umntu funeka athi gqi pha eCappelo's noba uzobetha one nje.
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Funny enough I was gonna call you when I get to Bloem and I did consider giving you a lift but then I thought you might want to drive so you can drive back cause I'm not driving back. And I'm being for real though. I'll let you know if there's space just before I leave.
Cool, let me know. I'll drive back and even give you R20 for petrol. I know times are hard.
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Havent been in jozi since last year. I am so excited,my whole clique frm WP,EC,KZN is here. We will be based in Braamfontein we hear thats where its poppin, we have never been there before,it will be exciting.We need to hire a minibus/quantum/caravelle they dont have that ish we stil searching.
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it would be very kul to finally meet all the AG geeks! ;D
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Im up in this joint! arrived last night and cant wait for tomorrow. I hope it wont rain.
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Back to the city has really changed in terms of what that show used to be all about.
The lineup doesn't impress me much and the R50 doesn't justify it either, it seems to have lost alot of flava that made that a special kind of gig.
But anyway, enjoy that shit
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Back to the city has really changed in terms of what that show used to be all about.
The lineup doesn't impress me much and the R50 doesn't justify it either, it seems to have lost alot of flava that made that a special kind of gig.
But anyway, enjoy that shit
cant say i dont know where youre coming from.
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Back to the city has really changed in terms of what that show used to be all about.
The lineup doesn't impress me much and the R50 doesn't justify it either, it seems to have lost alot of flava that made that a special kind of gig.
But anyway, enjoy that shit
Please elaborate what you mean? I would like to understand what changes have changed your perception about it. Which artists would you have liked to see on the line up?
I think 50 bucks is fair considering thats' how much you pay to go and see one artist for a normal gig on a friday night and here you are getting 30 acts.
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im as keen as ever, but i think Raiko might be alluding to the inclusion of the likes of HHP, the Glitz Gang, Teargas etc. as opposed to the likes of Robo, thabs, Driemanskap etc.
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FULL LINE UP
Prokid
Teargas
Zaki Ibrahim
Tumi
Maggz-L-tido-Morale
AKA
JR
Archetypes
Smerf
Liquid Kzn
Flex Boogie
Projektah
Take Away
Illiterate Skills
Ricky Rick
Abdus
Khuli Chana
Driemanskap
Black Moss
Last Days Fam
Skye Wanda
Mr Selwyn
Deep Soweto
Reason
Kwesta
The Federation
Mothipa
5th Floor
Deejays
Kenzhero
Music Atlast
Dimplez
Dolla
Switch
Dj Vu (Amsterdam)
P Squared
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yeah punks...ama be der...so all ya'll agains dat been runnin ya mouf's best be on the look out......and yeah, ama wear my blue t, easy to spot hey??
lookin foward to the driemans' perfomance...nd for the writing on the wall.
so who's the graff arts that's gonna be der?
who der dance crews dats gonna "krunk it" der?
rememba;@ nascent it's not only about the emcees nd dj's....
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im as keen as ever, but i think Raiko might be alluding to the inclusion of the likes of HHP, the Glitz Gang, Teargas etc. as opposed to the likes of Robo, thabs, Driemanskap etc.
This. Too much swag for my liking.
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What the f*** is JR doing on that lineup?
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oh see some cats have been added to the lineup. Fair enough..
i was saying that it used to be a free event, a gra**roots vibe, something that made it such a dope event, it brought all types of people. It was a personal statement from me something called an opinion.
I'm not a fan of half of the lineup, another choice that I think I'm entitled to? if I'm not feeling it then whats to say you cant? Who the f*** wants to see Mr Selwyn?
Back to the city was the gig where you'd see the unknown new comers against the big signed cats and it came down to the performance, now it looks like names that can accommodate a crowd willing to spend R50, I wasn't complaining bout spending R50, c'mon now, just feel the underdogs lost another gig to headliners.
With the exception of Kenny and MAL on the dj side the rest all have the same playlist?
I remember Morale getting booed at the first event, from a promotors side why would you even book that cat again, unless "his crowd" will fully pay the R50 you asking?
Just saying, it used to have something which i personally think its lost now. Nothing serious at all, i'm sure it will be a dope day, there's alot more happening and enough good acts to fulfill that besides some weak rappers included.
@ nascent don't take it personal cause you have ties to the gig? Butan still loves you
@ panic i wasn't saying thabs and robo should be on either, although i would've have liked to see Robo on, i think he does his thing and i'm sure the jhb crowd will back me on that?
But having an alternative opinion doesn't count so as you were children,
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^^^^ Mzansi rappers have families they also have eat
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oh see some cats have been added to the lineup. Fair enough..
i was saying that it used to be a free event, a gra**roots vibe, something that made it such a dope event, it brought all types of people. It was a personal statement from me something called an opinion.
I'm not a fan of half of the lineup, another choice that I think I'm entitled to? if I'm not feeling it then whats to say you cant? Who the f*** wants to see Mr Selwyn?
Back to the city was the gig where you'd see the unknown new comers against the big signed cats and it came down to the performance, now it looks like names that can accommodate a crowd willing to spend R50, I wasn't complaining bout spending R50, c'mon now, just feel the underdogs lost another gig to headliners.
With the exception of Kenny and MAL on the dj side the rest all have the same playlist?
I remember Morale getting booed at the first event, from a promotors side why would you even book that cat again, unless "his crowd" will fully pay the R50 you asking?
Just saying, it used to have something which i personally think its lost now. Nothing serious at all, i'm sure it will be a dope day, there's alot more happening and enough good acts to fulfill that besides some weak rappers included.
@ nascent don't take it personal cause you have ties to the gig? Butan still loves you
@ panic i wasn't saying thabs and robo should be on either, although i would've have liked to see Robo on, i think he does his thing and i'm sure the jhb crowd will back me on that?
But having an alternative opinion doesn't count so as you were children,
i didnt mean it like that, bro. i was just pointing out the kind of gra**roots, insanely dope and largely neglected cats that made the gig for me last year. i was just pointing them out as examples, not because youre affiliated with them.
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I used to think the event was giving the unknown unsigned cats a platform and also give us, who aren't into the shit you hear on the radio and see at every club or gig you go to, a chance to experience a nice music festival.
Now it has become another party with big names and teenyboppers all over the place.
I understand that people have to eat, but where do we go now?
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Yo don't get me wrong I admire anyone that takes the effort to handle a show that big and make it work out, just don't feel the same about the festival as i used too.
i understand people have to eat I'd be a real dick if i was denying that.
good luck to all involved, think i got misunderstood here, will keep quiet from now on.
Don't feel i need to justify my thoughts to anyone regarding a choice of mine.
BLESS!!
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Alternative opinions help things to evolve. I wanted to know so I could understand where you coming from and you have raised valid points.
There's something beautiful about the strong affiliation and sense of owership we feel with regards to our underground expression platforms. The love for the music, the culture.
I would like to know though, is there no room in SA hiphop for the commercial sound to co-exist with the underground? To share stages? Do we feel threatened that they will take over? That sponsors will want to see more of them and less of the music we love?
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Hawu guys lets go and enjoy ourselves there! Every heads favourite artist is there.
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im so jealous :(
I hope it rains heavily tomorrow (jokes)
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I would like to know though, is there no room in SA hiphop for the commercial sound to co-exist with the underground? To share stages? Do we feel threatened that they will take over? That sponsors will want to see more of them and less of the music we love?
Thats exactly what i was saying, the first Back to the City was exactly that, the commercial cats were upstaged that day and put alot of things into perspective for me and others, i definitely think the stages can be shared its a barrier that has to be broken.
That was my point i was tryna put across, shit on this tour in europe we've played on the same stages with rock bands, house cats, jiggy dudes even a french folk band! That worked out fine! Obviously hip hop across the board can be on the same stage the heads against xenophobia was another gig where that worked out.
i think if its done more regularly it can build a culture much better than dividing the small fanbase...
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intergration is great, the new south africa, the global village -great, being able to eat...a great necessity no qualms about it. Not so great is the ideal that a lot of 'underground' heads can enjoy the event without denouncing aspects of it that are less than appealing to their acquired tastes for definitive acoustics. The ideal that tolerance can easily be substituted with pleasure to create this 'fair' balance.
in my opinion & experience of SA hip hop - however narrow minded it may seem, alternative hip hop artists and faithfuls do not dig being spoonfed commercial rap music full stop and the same applies with commercial fans. in spite of our different preferences, ideas & feelings about hip hop, underground & commercial cats do have similar interests & form partnerships/relations, be peoples based on other shit - personality, business interests, favourite soccer teams, whateva! My friend/ex room-mate (like my entire family) couldn't stand the hip hop i listen to & i wasn't exactly thrilled about her collection either but that's okay coz we was good on so many levels. so while we'd often go to live jazz events together, we'd never be in attendance @ the same hip hop gig...just sayin', this not hate speech.
Nascent i get what u say about it part being about adjustment & extending the fanbase and i do respect it coz it comes from a good place but realistically we're just not there, a lot of us don't wanna get there, just because we don't see this sudden need 4 damaging amounts of hospitality. I alone can't think up a single good enough reason why we should be jumping on this wagon, considering that it requires a certain amount of compromise, a compromise that alienates some.
Wouldn't work better perhaps to invite artists from other equally or similarly orientated creative genres, introduce them to the hip hop we like, enjoy what they have to offer instead of sharing our aero moments with artists within the genre but who r at an opposing side of what we do? I'm not saying promoters should not do it this, not hating and not saying they should not accomodate this kind of hip hop & i'm certainly not saying ideas should be created without the possibility of expansion. But the main issue here is these are 2 different worlds- the messages r different, the sounds are different, the aim and so to appreciation. The one message cannot completely thrive or suck in the necessary nutrients by the roots if the other keeps casting blue crystals in the same patch of soil! For the same fan's attention. Which of the 2 points is being driven home here? Coz that are a few ways to live a little, in the many forms that underground hip hop is. some of us r comfortable & satiated in what we're used to & love to love - just that pure inexcusably explosive innovative feeling from an all sorts of limitless underground hip hop bill. But the fan is not my only concern, the artist too coz the value monetary or in terms of exposure is always given to the commercial rapper, the home side if we can call it that, stay hungry coz a few hundred is usually the mark of their worth when the two are up on the same stage, at least 90 percent of the time. I can understanding this kind of thing like some1 said when it comes to events like Hip Hop against Xenophobia or such initiatives.
As Jules put it into perspective, some of the original following is, whether we likes it or not, in polar opposites with syrupy rap & at loggerhedz with some or all things bearing the commercial sartorial of hip hop. This image of supposed harmony doesn't render fully necessary for the reasons given. It is no doubt viable for commercial interest in promotional strategy & in that sense has many gratifying benefits but not so for the fan. Among those mentioned, the expanding fanbase. I won't be surprised at a major success to come from such an event i mean from the trajectory i've seen hip hop take over the years, this intergration mission is likely to work well especially with the younger, bornfree generation with all this insurbodination & fresh quirks about sharing & caring. admittedly i got a less-than-tropical, more unorthodox view & i enjoy the bias. Almost as much as i enjoy being at a particular kind of event without even as much as the peripheral of what i don't dig.
but as some cats pointed out, it's what the fest used to be, what it used to represent, flag, encourage & push that gave it that special appeal to you the fans. This quicksand shift is leaving some in neglect thanks once again to commercialisation and the legion reasons why commercial rappers are more entitled to 'eat', first from the very shaky hands that feed them monotony, & now from alternative platforms too??!
that said, knowing the organisers/founders who have over the years promoted the more alternative side of the artform...who i look up to as key players, respect as veterans in SA hip hop. Seeing that they are coming uncaged from the seemingly onedimensional way in which the likes of me see progression in indie hip hop ( black-or-white with an acceptable margin only of overhearing the JRs of this world from a pa**ing taxi); i would have to guess that does in itself lend hope to this idea that such an environment can be created, conjusive to the attraction of these contrasting sides.
for that reason, i'm urging myself on to go thru, but also meet up with peoples, network & support those i dig that are sowhat worth the compromise...there's no telling wut it's gonna be like though, it will be my first polygamous experience/ment with hip hop on that scale. The last 2 times i went i didn't stay long enough to witness much of the other side or to develop a taste for cocktail.
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Federation and driemanskap is nice.lets mingle with the ma**es,vip section is boring.
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shit it's been dope yo. B-boy stage nice esp the battles plus drie's stage presence & set was dope. Just checked out the beatboxers 'Infinites' sick shit. I'm back at the b-boy stage again. Lovin it
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DOPENESS!! Drie, Federation, Black Moss(sp), and some names i have forgotten! nice!!
it amazing how people were not bothered by the rain. still so many people at that time of the night while it rained, that was beautiful man. i loved being there seeing people so into it.
The sound was great! a whole lot of people i heard and those i watched were great! accept for the backstage or around the stage disorder since there were too many people with access to it, the gig looked very organised! what a great event it was for me!!
I was mad that the afterparty ended too soon. i met random dudes and females and had crazy conversations and i bought some weed i wont even be able to finish before i leave jozi. `the whole transaction was too funny now that i think about it.
do yall think i can get away with mailing it to my address in CT? i dont have the courage to fly back with it.
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When it comes to the whole who deserves to be on the line-up...
For me it doesn't matter if they are unsigned or big. My rule would be, woiuld this person support the show if they were not playing. O.S.T or The Bank?
That's the difference between Tuni and Glittz Gang.
Otherwise show was dope, the Federation killed it.
Along with Mothipa, Deep Soweto
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Show was off the hinges. I loved the atmosphere, the people who were there really made it quite special. Glad they had beer this time around. LOL !!!!
Big ups to Lee, your special Ms. Kasumba. Big ups to everyone who showed The Federation love.
Didn't really agree with the line-up as well, cos it's always been a sort of a gra**-roots event, but at the end of it, i had so much fun it didn't matter anymore. Let's do it again next year ya. Big ups to Osmic and Dominique for putting on a great show. Power tripped for like 30 minutes, but people still stuck around. Big ups to HIP-HOP overall.
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It was nice seeing these cats live afterall i have their music. Smerf was nice,projekta was nice,Abdus had phat beats on there.
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the alcohol area made too much sense.
the music by the b-boy stage held me down.
Had a good laugh watching some of the performances. whats up with the milli vanilli shit cats are on? that lip syncing shit dont work..
Missed the Federation..was parking when they were on.
caught driemanskaap...nice energy on stage ..that was dope.
was expecting to see projectah elderbars..dunno how i missed that.. even mothipa (money cut his dreads).. I think it was the vodka. I enjoyed last days fam...
ondaground's bankie was the shit... didnt even need to touch my stash...
loved it when RAS and 'em hopped on stage and did "limping" ...
Left during zaki ibrahim's set. I was in stitches with the choreography and the back up singers.
And the tumi and MXO joint made my day....even his first joint...the beat...i think i need to cop the album on the strength of yesterday... i had a good laugh and a good time yesterday regardless of the rain..
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the alcohol area made too much sense.
the music by the b-boy stage held me down.
Had a good laugh watching some of the performances. whats up with the milli vanilli shit cats are on? that lip syncing shit dont work..
Missed the Federation..was parking when they were on.
caught driemanskaap...nice energy on stage ..that was dope.
was expecting to see projectah elderbars..dunno how i missed that.. even mothipa (money cut his dreads).. I think it was the vodka. I enjoyed last days fam...
ondaground's bankie was the shit... didnt even need to touch my stash...
loved it when RAS and 'em hopped on stage and did "limping" ...
Left during zaki ibrahim's set. I was in stitches with the choreography and the back up singers.
And the tumi and MXO joint made my day....even his first joint...the beat...i think i need to cop the album on the strength of yesterday... i had a good laugh and a good time yesterday regardless of the rain..
hahahah
was it Kwesta who had the funnyiest and lamest punchlines? hahaha shit we were in stitches during that performance. "i got a fan base, you only have fans with ba**/base". hahaha. he has shit loads of this kind of stuff. just forgot them
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@RR.. did u check when the glitz gang did some joint with a hook that goes like " do u like it when it rains...yeaaaahhhh..do u like it when it rains ...yeeeaaahhhh" ... i was finished...
the punchline mcs also made my day.... they had the crowd going tho but some of the punchlines was just funny and corny ... i need one of those guys to keep around for comic relief...
i even heard some shit (on my way to refill vodka) like "dont touch me in my studio ..." some thing along those lines.. i was dead... who was that?!!!!?!
another one was "" somethig something... rhythm city i got hustle" i was finished....
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@RR.. did u check when the glitz gang did some joint with a hook that goes like " do u like it when it rains...yeaaaahhhh..do u like it when it rains ...yeeeaaahhhh" ... i was finished...
the punchline mcs also made my day.... they had the crowd going tho but some of the punchlines was just funny and corny ... i need one of those guys to keep around for comic relief...
i even heard some shit (on my way to refill vodka) like "dont touch me in my studio ..." some thing along those lines.. i was dead... who was that?!!!!?!
another one was "" somethig something... rhythm city i got hustle" i was finished....
hahahahaha! i missed their performance because i was really not tryng to check them.
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Hehehe the ibrahim fans started gatherin on the sidelines singing along to the lyrics hehehe!! The punchlines were hilarious though i even heard something like " even jesus was tired staying underground" tehehehe
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Federation and Last Days Fam killed it proper. Yoh!!! It's a pity that LDF couldn't do 1 more jam, peeps were on some "WE WANT MORE" tip...loved it!!!
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I peeped the Federation perform for the 1st time. They held shit down. I also saw some of the battles which were weak as phuck IMO. Thats actually when I left. Big up to Dom and Osmic on a dope event!
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My cam got jacked so I ain't pix to prove it bt the memories of the craziness are fresh in my head. This was my third and best BTTC. Haven't had this much fun since new years.
Ms Deane and TT you rock!
Federation- Revolution!!! Carlito and Neon, release now so we can cop!
Last Days Fam - gets better every time I see 'em
PO and that dude, I dig the experiementation and effort with the concept.
TUMI - yessir! Professional this guy.
Zaki- I can't believe Pebbles was doing back up vocals and synchronising dance moves, it's not right! I went up to her afterwards and told her, nah, U a headline act. I couldn't not sing and dance along though, Ms Deane made sure of that. Was the other back up Kethi?
Trompie tahnks for the CD.
I thought I was a fader
Panic you was a no show
or were you incognito?
Baldi and Earl where were you?
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Zaki- I can't believe Pebbles was doing back up vocals and synchronising dance moves, it's not right! I went up to her afterwards and told her, nah, U a headline act. I couldn't not sing and dance along though, Ms Deane made sure of that. Was the other back up Kethi?
that shocked me too, Khethi & Pebbles doing some silly moves as if they wer at some primary school talent search, i wonder whose idea that was....and wat was Zaki wearing.... :o
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So every act justified them being their then?
Who were these milli vanilli lip syncers? Dont tell me glitz gang did it again?
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I decided not to go through. Don't know about Baldi.
Me and the missus stayed in watching True Blood. It was stay in bed weather.
Seems I missed out, despite the line-up.
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My cam got jacked so I ain't pix to prove it bt the memories of the craziness are fresh in my head. This was my third and best BTTC. Haven't had this much fun since new years.
Ms Deane and TT you rock!
Federation- Revolution!!! Carlito and Neon, release now so we can cop!
Last Days Fam - gets better every time I see 'em
PO and that dude, I dig the experiementation and effort with the concept.
TUMI - yessir! Professional this guy.
Zaki- I can't believe Pebbles was doing back up vocals and synchronising dance moves, it's not right! I went up to her afterwards and told her, nah, U a headline act. I couldn't not sing and dance along though, Ms Deane made sure of that. Was the other back up Kethi?
Trompie tahnks for the CD.
I thought I was a fader
Panic you was a no show
or were you incognito?
Baldi and Earl where were you?
Amen to dat!!!
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Mina it was my first time there ;D so when I walked in Deep Soweto was about to step off stage...da cat who went acapella in vernec was nice.
Kwesta
According to me he was da most live solo rapper (i know he had a right hand man though), dude killed it like DEAD...dat joint MR COOL had people screamin non stop...hez acapellas caused da loudest ooooooh and aaaaaahs lol I learned a lot from him.
5th Floor
Thier opening joint was out of this world, they held it down for real and I liked how they introduced ILL SKILLZ that was dope man it was like they were gon leave but they actually did a collabo all together.
The Federation for the nation!!!
I love this duo their first joint they performed..ooooooooooooh that boombap SHIT!!! aint no mafaca I saw came with that so yeah I cop that! Tha political joint was da truth yoh cant wait for thier double album.
Middle finga
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Driemanskaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!!!
Oh my gooooooooood!!! The opening joint neva saw such an energetic clique on stage you just cant hate on them they so entertaining they dont just stand there and spit their stage appearance is untouchable f*** WHAT YOU HEARD!!!
Jet
Dude is quite good I cant hate
Black Moss da master of spontaneous sentences
I respect him heza dope cat but he didnt do it for me on stage, maybe it was hes track selection
Deep Level
They owned the crown...like everybody was singing along man...but I'm not thier fan but still I cant hate they came with more fire that WEED HEADS at Back to the City lol, they full of energy even though they kinda like shubby lmao (no disrsepect), dude with dreads jumped off da stage and climbed on da fence with litheness.
AKA
If you used to doubt him now you know, hes restless on stage also ended up climbing da fence LMAO ey rappers. He moved da crowd with "I want it all" alongside Khuli Chana
Khuli Chana
He perfomed this joint witha house beat, mxm I was like f*** this shit!
The Glitz Gang
They did their thang...the crowd love the L-Tido joint probably broads...Maggz had a difference voice from his joint, everybody spotted that (maybe it was coz he was miming too ::)) Oh yeah...he tried droppin acapella but got booooed!!! ;D Morale held it down nice too...but he was miming too ::) so I could hear his voice from the track morethan that on da mic das foul yoh >:(
All starz
Electrifying...could it be coz they were too many? lmao nevertheless they entertaining, I mean its a buffet of emcees so they cater for everybody. They f***ed it up by backing each other alot we couldnt even hear what da f*** RAS was saying. Nveigh dropped a freestyle and he also ended up being booooooed ;D wtf (whats wit Back to da City crowd) lol.
Last Days Fam
Now everybody know that these cats were in controll of da crowd, I was suppried how everybody was singing along of DOING IT RIGHT damn...should I even mention that they cutted them off >:( >:( >:( they crowd was furious demanding for more lol...you gota love da crowd there man daaaaaaaamn.
shit therez a lot write about will write more tomorrow. :o
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Eish cats was getting booed ne?! either way sounds like it was an amazing event...
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Eish cats was getting booed ne?! either way sounds like it was an amazing event...
They even booooed The Black Hitler wtf?! :o
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the alcohol area made too much sense.
the music by the b-boy stage held me down.
Had a good laugh watching some of the performances. whats up with the milli vanilli shit cats are on? that lip syncing shit dont work..
Missed the Federation..was parking when they were on.
caught driemanskaap...nice energy on stage ..that was dope.
was expecting to see projectah elderbars..dunno how i missed that.. even mothipa (money cut his dreads).. I think it was the vodka. I enjoyed last days fam...
ondaground's bankie was the shit... didnt even need to touch my stash...
loved it when RAS and 'em hopped on stage and did "limping" ...
Left during zaki ibrahim's set. I was in stitches with the choreography and the back up singers.
And the tumi and MXO joint made my day....even his first joint...the beat...i think i need to cop the album on the strength of yesterday... i had a good laugh and a good time yesterday regardless of the rain..
hahahah
was it Kwesta who had the funnyiest and lamest punchlines? hahaha shit we were in stitches during that performance. "i got a fan base, you only have fans with ba**/base". hahaha. he has shit loads of this kind of stuff. just forgot them
With lines like...Ng'phath' abantwana aba-baier abadlul' i-daycare lol
Fak' amahlo emlomen' ...watch what you say yeah LMAO!
Ngek' nilunge you beyond repairs....this dude!
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Hehehe the ibrahim fans started gatherin on the sidelines singing along to the lyrics hehehe!! The punchlines were hilarious though i even heard something like " even jesus was tired staying underground" tehehehe
This was Abdus!
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Eish cats was getting booed ne?! either way sounds like it was an amazing event...
They even booooed The Black Hitler wtf?! :o
ARe you not mistaken dude? There was no Black Hitler there.
WHO? ReallY?
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i was there nikas drunk as a skunk tryina act a fool so that yall cud spot a nika. i met 2 agians who wnt to remain unkown, regular agians!
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i was there nikas drunk as a skunk tryina act a fool so that yall cud spot a nika. i met 2 agians who wnt to remain unkown, regular agians!
So Agians come in Super and Regular? :D What's the criteria, ha ha.
No Zuluboy
No Teargas
No complaints?
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Eish cats was getting booed ne?! either way sounds like it was an amazing event...
They even booooed The Black Hitler wtf?! :o
ARe you not mistaken dude? There was no Black Hitler there.
WHO? ReallY?
Das Adamus!
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Driemanskap - is always on fire, loved their Camagu joint....
Last Dayz - Ripped it apart, that was a killer set had me rocking with them from start to finish....
The Federation always kills it however I went out to get chow when they jumped on stage....
Ey peeps what happened to Reason.... he was performing "They Forgot about me" and I saw peeps starting to walk backwards and ish...
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yeah I saw this too...dono what happened...dude's still real dope and making good music (check the tracks he has on www.capitalmagazine.co.za for reference) but I didn't feel the beginning of his set at all so I ended up walking away too. okay so maybe I left coz it was getting freakin cold, my point is I did it during his performance meaning it wasn't that hot.
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Reason is dope but his performance was just weak,i didnt see Reason on stage i saw a man trying to be Nas! The battles were weak but that washed up battle mcee who was booed,he caught feelings then reitarated by saying YO mama to the crowd hahaha!