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General Discussion / Re: ProVerb Music
« on: February 07, 2009, 12:20:28 AM »
Wow.....ok, first off.......this feels kinda funny in a weird yet kinda familiar way. Havent posted on AG in such a long time. Feeling like an artist thats been on a long hiatus hoping to test the waters of the media again. ;D

Hey Verb, how u doing my man?Things good with u and the fam?Looking forward to finalization on ur upcoming album.I'm hearing good things.

Hip Hop Events / DPlanet Bday
« on: November 02, 2007, 03:47:18 PM »
Happy Bday big u had a wonderful eve last nite.

All the best for this new age ur in.Its a comfy one. :wink:

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 12, 2007, 05:30:08 PM »
Fah, its worth the DL.Nice track.

Hot Traxxx / Wu Tang - 8 Diagrams Prerelease Topic
« on: October 12, 2007, 05:29:49 PM »
Quote from: "fahfee"
"RZA hinted that Raekwon’s Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II album will be right behind the Clan’s LP. "


looking foward to this.

Might be a little optimistic seeing that he is signed to Aftermath. :lol: U know it takes another 2 years b4 he can drop.But hey, its good to be hopeful.

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 06, 2007, 10:55:27 PM »
And here's the Jimmy Ponder track sampled for the new Wu & Ghostface track.Track is off his 1974 debut and is a cover of the Beatles' "While My Guitar Gently Weeps".And there you go.Enjoy.

Jimmy POnder - While My Guitar Gently Weeps
http://LINK REMOVED/audio/4001692014dbdb/

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 06, 2007, 10:35:43 PM »
And here's the Ghostface white label thats been around for few years.Same idea.Cla**ic Ghost.Its a rarity.

Ghostface - My guitar
2 links below:
http://LINK REMOVED/audio/4001715631a7cf/

http://LINK REMOVED/audio/1862785aaa3d36/

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 06, 2007, 10:03:59 PM »
Quote from: "triplelife"

Yeah, saw the post after I posted mine.All good in the promo game. :wink:

Media / New Wu-tang
« on: October 06, 2007, 10:02:23 PM »
Quote from: "Deuce'sScoundral"
how did they manage to clear a Beatles sample?

They didnt exactly get that right.Check the link and peep the second post with the link explaining whats the deal with the Beatles sample:

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 06, 2007, 12:55:04 PM »
Interesting Article surrounding the above posted song, ito the sample clearance.Its Beatles' related.Link to article below:

Producers - Discussion / Kev Brown Commentary
« on: October 06, 2007, 12:53:08 PM »
Thanx for the links.I too concur, could we get a zshare link too?Thanx in advance.

Hot Traxxx / New Wu
« on: October 06, 2007, 12:27:10 PM »

The Heart Gently Weeps:
http://LINK REMOVED/download/4001427a84ce77/

Hot Traxxx / Kanye Bonus Track from Graduation (Limited)
« on: October 04, 2007, 12:33:36 AM »
Enjoy the track......Check the link:

Kanye West (feat. Mos Def) -- Good Night (Graduation Japanese Bonus Track):
http://LINK REMOVED/audio/3479646b693c82/

General Discussion / An open letter penned by David Banner to "leaders"
« on: September 30, 2007, 12:26:22 AM »
Once again, similar to what he said to Congress........nothing new, yet interesting to read and see the viewpoint.

The following is an open letter penned by David Banner, regarding his recent back-n-forth with Al Sharpton. It is posted in its entirety.

To all the black "so called leaders" -- Al, Oprah, Jesse, etc, etc, etc... I'm saddened by your current direction and current "pet projects" you guys have taken under your wing at the expense of Young Black America. As an urban professional living in this crazy world, I dare ask, who are you leading? I listen to what you say, I hear you complain about the youth, and about the direction of our lives, the kids, and where Black America is going and yet I still ask -- who are you guys leading? And most importantly, where are we going? Do we know the goal we are trying to reach before we get there? Have we identified our end before articulating our means to an end! Who are you REALLY reaching?

Why do you feel the need to attack the young generation for the things we are doing? WHO DID WE LEARN THESE THINGS FROM? We are trying to have fun in the midst of our traumatic circumstances. People are trying to make a living by any means necessary, people are voicing their experiences, people are speaking the truth about situations and honestly the truth hurts and sometimes it's ugly. If music / hip-hop / rappers are wrong with the language they use, the images they portray in their videos -- then come talk to us -- I use the term "us" as a collective because I'm defending what I have a pa**ion for, so this also involves me. Pull us to the side and say "hey kids, that's not the way to go" and then we can say "change what we see daily, so we can sing and rap about the roses and not about the bullets."

We will say, "help give us better situations to create better verbal material." Don't just go running off to the media to air the dirty laundry of the family and not expect us to fight back in some kind of way. What you are doing is wrong and it's pissing off a lot of people with less money and camera time! Young Black America's problem is not Hip-Hop or the music, Young Black America's problem is Old White America. In the young black community, there is a growing level of resentment toward the "so called leaders" because you guys DON'T WANT TO REALLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS.

You guys don't really want to be on our side fighting for better school systems, more after school programs, more money for college funding! Where are you leaders at when there's a need to break down to freshman in college on how not to get caught up with credit cards by singing up for an MBNA card, with high interest rates that eventually screw up your credit and makes it that much harder for you to become a homeowner after you graduate college, pending you can find a job in your field after you've spent all this money in student loans!? Where are those seminars? Dubois had it right when he spoke of the Talented Tenth! Rally around us to help teach us about THIS life! It's not our fault that the world is messed up and filled with debauchery. It's not our fault that our communities are screwed! The problems in our community should not fall on our lap. And if you begin to hold us accountable for simply our words -- then I will begin to hold you accountable for your actions; or lack there of. Right is right and wrong is wrong. You as our leaders should have taken a better approach to gaining the attention of those that you are dissatisfied with and had a conversation with them. You don't scold your child in public without fair warning!

Al Sharpton: You run around towns and cities speaking words of wanting to better our community by cleaning up the airwaves. You hold rallies in front of radio stations saying "turn off the music and clean the airwaves." You want to shut down local stations that are playing urban music when most of these local stations house and employ the same people in your community -- the black community. When you visit any station in any city (big or small) playing urban / rap music, the staff is generally black. Now if those stations were to ever shut down -- where do those employees go? Al, if you are for the people, where was your rally when the 3 college students were executed in New Jersey by black men. Where is the rally at for those families and that neighborhood??? I don't see you out there asking for justice yet that incident happened in a black community. If someone was to rap about "how f---ed up black on black crime is and how even if you go to college, you aren't safe on the streets and n----'s aint' sh--" -- that kind of tone is offensive to you and you want to stop that! If that's the truth, then why are you censoring it? No, you need to stop the crime before it happens so that there is no gangster song about a gangster situation.

Oprah: You recently you held a town hall meeting dedicating 2 days of talk to have an open forum about the "Nappy Headed Ho" comment from Imus. Everyone had their 2 cents to say and yet the people that needed to REALLY be there were not at all on your panel of "experts." The questions all were about "why use the word 'ho' or 'bitch' or n---- etc," yet the rappers in question ala Nelly, Snoop, Ludacris weren't anywhere present on your panel. In my eyes you had all the wrong people on there representing and speaking on behalf of other people.

Common is great, but he's not gangsta. If you had a problem with the true content of rap songs then where were those that do that kind of rap 100%? You want to talk about change, and about having us not call women in rap songs "bitches" and "hoes," but one thing I noted, you had all men on your panel of executives. Russell is wonderful, but he's not the Zenith when it comes to new school rappers or their new school mentality. Kevin Liles is great, but what happened to Sylvia Rhone, the head of the label that Nelly is signed to, or Kathy Hughes the head of Radio One or Deborah Lee the head of BET. If the problem really was about women and the "bitch, ho" term being used, where were those ladies to speak on their stance on this issue? They are the ones with the ultimate say pulling all the strings and yet they weren't dully noted as absent from your panel! Oprah you are suppose to protect us, I can find more harm being done to the black community by the movies and sponsors you promote than any rap song.

Just like your son or daughter, niece or nephew... rappers are just kids growing into their own. They aren't always right, but they aren't always wrong either. If our path is misguided, then help us get back on the right road. I'm young, I'm black, and I'm a hard worker. I'm from the hood where mothers leave their kids in the hands of strangers and never look back, I've been with killers, dope dealers, b******, church folk, grandparents, bad parenting from good parents, pushers, junkies, robbers, middlecla** workers, but that's the life I've been around. Gunshots and church hymns usually go hand in hand in most neighborhoods. The grim reality for a lot of kids out there living alone is that life is harsh and cold; kids grow up faster than they want to because they are forced too! Kids are growing up in situations that are f---e up. So the songs we listen to mirror the things we see, the things we dream about and the fantasies we have! Don't change the songs I listen to, change the circumstance from which it comes from -- then the situation will be better!

Growing up in this world of hip-hop, it's disheartening to see our "so called leaders" leave us out to dry. Fine you don't like what we say. Fine disagree with our choice of topics; however, the things we talk about aren't new. We didn't invent the term "pimps, pushers, hoes, tricks, doobies, n----s and gangstas." Hip-Hop didn't create that. Those words were left here for us to use by you guys, your generation. This life we are continuing to live was handed to us by the people before us who didn't do much to clean it up. There may never be a time that we agree on anything, but there is always room for change. As a family -- we will agree to disagree, but it's the synergy in which we do it. If you are on one extreme tangent, and I'm on another, we will never meet eye to eye. At the same time, I will not allow you to bash, yell, condemn, and have a condescending tone on my source of refugee and happiness. As you leaders call out the hip-hop community, saying that we are wrong for what we do and how we do it, I am CALLING EACH OF YOU OUT saying you are wrong for what you are doing to us.

How dare you guys not call Nelly, Snoop, Lil Wayne, David Banner, Jim Jones, Akon, Rick Ross, Fabulous, 50 Cent, Young Buck, Bun B, Too Short and say "lets talk this through." Do you even know who ANY of these people are??????? You are so disconnected from us that we don't even look at you for guidance. If you really want to change something, start by changing your dialogue. Don't talk at us, talk to us!

General Discussion / David Banner's Speech To Congress Over Hip-Hop Lyrics
« on: September 29, 2007, 05:32:12 PM »
This is a very interesting read, if u havent caught the address on youtube or on a blog somewhere.The transcript follows.I'm keen to see more on the outcome from these deliberations.

David Banner was among the few voices for hip-hop that spoke at a recent hearing in front of Congress over the lyrics of the genre. Full transcript of his testimony. Read it below:

"Good afternoon Mr. Chairman and members of the Committee. My name is David Banner. I am an artist for Universal Recordings, a producer, and label executive.

Thank you for inviting my testimony.

This dialogue was sparked by the insulting comments made by Don Imus concerning the Rutgers women's basketball team. Imus lost his job, but later secured a million dollar contract with another station. While he appears to have been rewarded, the hip-hop industry is left under public scrutiny. As this dialogue played out in the media, the voices of the people who create hip-hop and rap music were silenced. We were not invited to participate on any panels, nor given the opportunity to publicly refute any of the accusations hurled at us. While Congress lacks the power to censor, it is of the utmost importance that the people who's livelihood is at stake be made a vital part of this process.

I am from Jackson, Mississippi. Jackson is one of the most violent cities in the United States. Much like Washington, D.C., Jackson stayed in the murder capital run. When I was growing up, it always ranked as one of the top ten cities for the highest number of murders per capital. Being located right below Chicago, a lot of kids got in trouble up there and were sent to Jackson by their grandparents, who were from Jackson.

The by product of this migration was violence. I was blessed to have a very strong man for a father, and a very, very strong woman for a Mother.

Honestly, rap music is what kept me out of trouble.

Statistics will never show the positive side of rap because statistics don't reflect what you do, if you don't commit a murder or a crime. When I would feel angry and would think about getting revenge, I would listen to Tupac.

His anger in a song was a replacement for my anger. I lived vicariously through his music.

Rap music is the voice of the underbelly of America.

In most cases, America wants to hide the negative that it does to its people. Hip-hop is the voice, and how dare America not give us the opportunity to be heard.

I am one of the few artists who went to college. I still see my friends who, as college graduates, are unable to get a job. The truth is that what we do sells. Often artists try to do different types of music and their music doesn't sell. In America, the media only lifts up negativity.

People consider me a philanthropist. I give away close to a quarter of my yearly earnings to send children from impoverished neighborhoods to different cities and to Disney land. This gives them another vision. Rap music has changed my life, and the lives of those around me. It has given us the opportunity to eat. I remember sending 88 kids from the inner city on a trip. I went to the local newspaper and TV station, only to be told that the trip wasn't newsworthy. But if I had shot somebody, it would have been all over the news. I threw the largest urban relief concert in history. That never made the front cover of a magazine. But as soon as I say something negative, rise up against my own, or become sharp at the mouth (no pun intended), I am perceived as being disrespectful to Black leaders. That negativity overshadows all of the positive things that I've done as a rap artist.

Some might argue that the content of our music serves as poison to the minds of our generation. If by some stroke of the pen, hip-hop was silenced, the issues would still be present in our communities. Drugs, violence, and the criminal element were around long before hip-hop existed. Our consumers come from various socioeconomic backgrounds and cultures. While many are underprivileged, a large percentage are educated professionals. The responsibility for their choices does not rest on the shoulders of hip-hop.

Still others raise concerns about the youth having access to our music. Much like the ratings utilized by the Motion picture a**ociation of America, our music is given ratings which are displayed on the packaging.

These serve to inform the public of possible adult content. As such, the probability of shocking the unsuspecting consumers sensibilities is virtually impossible. If the consumer is disinterested or offended by the content of our music, one could simply not purchase our CDs. The music that is played on the radio must comply with FCC guidelines. Again, this provides a safeguard. Ultimately, the burden of monitoring the music that minors listen to rests with their parents.

Some argue that the verbiage used in our music is derogatory. During slavery, those in authority used the word "nigger" as a means to degrade and emasculate. There was no push for censorship of the word back then. The abuse that accompanied the label "nigger" forced us to internalize it. This made the situation easier to digest. Our generation has since a**umed ownership of the word. Now that we are capitalizing off the use of the word, why is it so important that it be censored? The intent and spirit of the word "nigga" in rap music does not even remotely carry the same meaning nor historical intent.

Attempting to censor the use of a word that merely depicts deep camaraderie is outrageous. People should focus less on the offensive words in our music, and more on the messages that are being conveyed.

The same respect is often not extended to hip-hop artists as to those in other arenas. Steven King and Steven Spielberg are renowned for their horrific creations. These movies are embraced as art. Why then is our content not merely deemed horror music?

Mark Twain's literary cla**ic, Huckleberry Finn, is still required reading in cla**rooms across the United States of America. The word "nigger" appears in the book approximately 215 times. While some may find this offensive, the book was not banned by all school districts because of its artistic value. The same consideration should be extended to hip-hop music.

As consumers, we generally gravitate to and have a higher tolerance for things that we can relate to. As such, it is not surprising that the spirit of hip-hop is not easily understood. In the 1971 case of Cohen vs. California, Justice Harlan noted that one man's vulgarity is another man's lyric. The content and verbiage illustrated in our music may be viewed as derogatory or unnecessary, but it is a protected means of artistic expression. In 2005 Al Sharpton, who is a proponent of censorship, stated on CNN that rappers have the right to talk about the violence they come from; if they're going to rap about it and sing about it, they have the First Amendment right. Much like imagery supplied via television, literature, and by other genres of music, we merely provide a product that appeals to our patrons.

Our troops are currently at war under the guise of liberating other countries. While here in America, our rights are being threatened daily. This is illustrated by homeland security, extensive phone tapping and ill placed attempts at censorship. If we are not careful, we will find ourselves getting closer to a dictatorship.

Traditionally multi-billion dollar industries have thrived on the premise of violence, sexuality, and derogatory content. This capitalistic trend was not created nor introduced by hip-hop. It's been here.

It's the American way.

I can admit that there are some problems in hip-hop.

But it is only a reflection of what is taking place in our society. Hip-hop is sick because America is sick.

Thank you,
David Banner"

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