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Media / Rap, Theatre, Bawse
« on: April 24, 2009, 01:28:53 PM »
Taken from NY Times

It’s hard to say when, exactly, 50 Cent crossed the line in his feud with the Miami rapper Rick Ross. The more apt question might be: How many lines are there? He tracked down the mother of a Ross a**ociate, DJ Khaled, at work, filming her sleeping on the job. He taped himself taking the mother of one of Mr. Ross’s children to buy a fur coat. He acquired and posted to the Internet a pronographic video starring another of Mr. Ross’s ex-girlfriends.

Rick Ross must have seemed an especially easy mark — it had already been a tough few months for his fourth wall. Before he was Rick Ross, the drug boss M.C., he had been William Leonard Roberts, and last summer a photograph surfaced of him from the mid-1990s, graduating from a corrections officer academy. He denied its authenticity — until The Smoking Gun got hold of his Florida Corrections Department personnel file, which included a certificate for perfect attendance.

The facts of Mr. Roberts’s life were getting in the way of Mr. Ross’s career.

To all this upheaval, Rick Ross — who, while he has been popular, has never quite been great — has replied, improbably, with art. “I see no reason to run to the dark,” he said in a recent interview in the Manhattan offices of his label, Def Jam. His songs aimed at 50 Cent have, hands down, been sharper and wittier than those of his rival. And the just-released “Deeper Than Rap” (Maybach Music/Slip N’ Slide/Def Jam), his third album, is unexpectedly fantastic, by far his best.

If albums were all that mattered, that would be that. But Mr. Ross’s persistence and the fact that though over the last nine months he’s been all but stripped bare, he’s emerged from the fray relatively unscathed, which indicates something much more noteworthy. Impenetrability of image, that old signal of hip-hop authenticity, somehow no longer seems to count.

And what a relief that is. Like all great pop music, rap is theater, and Rick Ross, now 33, is one of its most ambitious characters. He arrived fully formed in the summer of 2006: the busting-out gut, the outsize presence, the scratchy voice, the always-there sungla**es. At worst he was a Young Jeezy clone, spewing empty drug talk in comically repetitive fashion. At best he was an utterly believable and improbably charming exponent of the cocaine-rap making the rounds at the time. Clipse may have done it with more technical precision, and Jeezy with more magnetism, but Mr. Ross sounded in charge, his voice a gravelly threat.

“Deeper Than Rap” is just as certain as his first two studio albums, “Port of Miami” and “Trilla,” but reflects the view from the top, not the bottom. Now, instead of climbing up to success, he’s achieved it. Produced largely by J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League and the Inkredibles, this album is lush, erotic, entitled, a stunning leisure-cla** document of easy wealth and carefree sex. It’s a throwback to a time of sonic and attitudinal ambition in hip-hop — the Bad Boy era of the mid- to late ’90s, with its warm soul samples connoting the new hip-hop luxury comes to mind. Few rap albums have sounded this a**ured, this sumptuous, in years.

Also, unlike before, Mr. Ross can now rap, impressively: either he’s been studying or is having his hand held. It’s the only thing at odds with this album’s casual ethic; rapping well need not be a priority, but Mr. Ross seems to take his newfound affinity for polysyllabic rhyme schemes as a point of pride.

On “Usual Suspects” he raps:

“Seventeen, trying to man up

Feed the fam, boy, I put that on these canned goods

All I got was diabetes and a damn hug

People talking down, calling me a damn scrub.

What’s also notable about “Deeper Than Rap” is what’s not there. 50 Cent is a target on at least three songs, but Mr. Ross doesn’t belabor the battle nor does he touch on the aspects of his personal life that have lately haunted him.

In an age of routine tabloid invasions and the microrevelation as celebrity news, it’s become commonplace to expect access to all aspects of the lives of the famous. But in the hip-hop world, the stories behind the stories can be too grave to tell.

“Right now as we speak, I got two of my best friends that’s on the run from two separate cocaine conspiracy indictments,” Mr. Ross said. “This is a reality that I can’t glorify. The relationship I have with these people is deeper than rap.

“When I say something like ‘deeper than rap,’ that’s possibly death involved. That’s possibly prison time involved.”

The idea of “deeper than rap” has become a hip-hop touchstone of late. When the rapper Crooked I was shot, or not, earlier this year — he wouldn’t confirm or deny reports — he demurred from discussing the situation, saying, “It’s deeper than rap.”

Last month, on the MTV show “T. I.’s Road to Redemption,” that rapper calmly detailed the criminal activities that led to his arrest in 2007 on weapons charges. Coming from T. I. himself, it was shocking, an alternative history of his career that had nothing at all to do with music. (He is scheduled to begin serving his year-and-a-day sentence next month.)

Though his life beyond rap has been used against him, Mr. Ross still teases about an unknowable dark side. On the new album he name-drops Harry O, a Los Angeles drug dealer (who claimed to have provided the seed money for Death Row Records), and Big Ike, a Miami street kingpin.

Mr. Ross took his name from Freeway Rick Ross, a Los Angeles drug lord, and was mentored by Kenneth Williams, known as Boobie and now serving a life sentence. On “Gunplay,” from the new album, Mr. Ross raps “Boobie Boy still/ Boobie Boys real/ You can name a lot of lames that the Boobie Boys killed.”

Perhaps he’s overcompensating. Mr. Ross’s outing as a former corrections officer was the most spectacular and public implosion of a rapper’s self-styled tough-guy image — the hip-hop blog gleefully refers to him as Officer Rawse — since The Dallas Morning News picked apart the looser sections of Vanilla Ice’s biography during his rise to fame in 1990.

But Vanilla Ice’s songs weren’t filled with homage to the drug trade and its leading lights. And no one expected unvarnished truth from him. Mr. Ross must submit to a different standard.

Or at least he still acts as if he must. Of his stint on the side of the law, Mr. Ross said, “The truth is more sinister than the obvious,” suggesting an undisclosed layer to his time there.

Miami, he said, is a city where young go-getters “sell dope, buy Lamborghinis and get buried in them.” This month he filmed a video for “All I Really Want,” a collaboration with The-Dream, in Medellín, Colombia. In footage from the trip, available on YouTube, he stands outside the house where Pablo Escobar was killed, sungla**es off, soaking in history.

Whether it’s a validation of Mr. Ross’s extramusical credibility or an elaborately staged pose might not matter: creating this scene allows for a productive ambiguity in how he is perceived by outsiders. All the revelations about him get dwarfed by the question of who Rick Ross might be when he steps away from the microphone.

Asked how he’d explain to his children the more insidious of the ex-girlfriend videos 50 Cent has disseminated, Mr. Ross was philosophical: “I’d say she was an actress for a day. I love actresses.” In other words, an acknowledgment that sometimes it’s acceptable to just be playing a role.

Hip Hop Events / MTV Africa Music Awards
« on: October 09, 2008, 10:00:46 AM »
Nominees for Best Hip Hop

The Game (US)
Professor Jay (Tanzania)
Lil Wayne (US)
9ice (Naija)

Anyone got the heads up on Professor Jay's music?

192 million households watching is going to be a major look for anyone who gets to perform! Big ups to everyone that made the cut.

Other nominees:

Best Video:
Ikechekwu (Naija) - Wind Em Well (voted)
Freshly Ground (SA) - Pot Belly
Prokid (SA) - Uthini Ngo Pro
P Square (Naija) - Roll It
Movaizhaleine (Gabon) -Nous

Anyone here got the heads up on the hip hop scene in Gabon? How big, how active?

Best new Act:
Naeto C (Naija) - Voted
Wahu (Kenya)
9ice (Naija)
Kwaw Kese (Ghana)

Artist of The Year:
Asa (Naija)
D'Banj (Naija)
Seether (SA)
P-Square (Naija)

Best R&B:
P-Square (Naija)
Alicia Keys (US)
Loyiso (SA)
Rihanna (US)
Akon (Senegal/US)

Best Group:
Freshly Ground (SA)
East African Bashment Crew (UG)
Jozi (SA)
P-Square (Naija)
The Parlotones (SA)

Best Live Performer
P-Square -(Naija)
Jozi (SA)
Samini (Ghana)
D'Banj (Naija)
Ca**ette (SA)

Best Male
2Face (Naija)
Jua Cali (Kenya)
DJ Cleo (SA)
D' Banj (Naija)

Best Female
Asa (Naija)
Zonke (SA)
Wahu (Kenya)
Dama Do Bling (Moz) voted
Sasha (Naija)

Hope that answers the questions.

General Discussion / Bill Gates' last day at work
« on: January 07, 2008, 06:13:50 PM »
The richest person in the world's options!


General Discussion / Diddy bop like when diddy popped
« on: October 25, 2007, 02:35:45 PM »
Looks like it's going to be another neck and neck thing for 2008 Hip Hop Forbes' Top 3 spots.

Diddy has just inked a sweet deal with the makers of Ciroc vodka that guarantees him a whopping 50% share in the profits of the alcoholic beverage. Combs isn’t agreeing to endorse the high-end vodka, he’s becoming intimately involved with the running, marketing and sales of the product right down to in which stores Ciroc will be sold to consumers. He wants to bring style, sophistication and sex to the brand name and believes that he deliver all that to Ciroc’s owners, Diageo PLC. “They’re looking for something that tastes like their lifestyle,” Puffy told of the kind of people he wants to bring to consume Ciroc, the a**embled press at the unveiling of the deal. “It’s that trendsetter, that hipster, someone who’s looking for luxury and looking for something better.”

For a man that has crafted his music persona into a multi-million dollar apparel and perfume products we certainly think that Combs is the one to make drinking high-end vodka the next it thing amongst the club crowd. And if Ciroc’s public star begins to rise as everyone hopes for Diddy stands up to make $100 million dollars from his new deal. That’s a lot of bottles.

Dayum. And how have his last 3 albums performed? Anyone got stats on that?
A blogger said this is one dude that knows how to keep the lights on. Word.

Media / 3186
« on: October 24, 2007, 02:30:02 PM »
Who put you onto this "AG" thing?

Damn time goes by quickly. I remember Sensai Tate putting me onto this thing "AG" where everyone who's doing something is networking with other like-minded peeps. "Good platform to market your ish too". Never pictured a few years later, numerous characters down the line; & I mean clowns, gangstas, creeps, pervs, rappers, A&Rs, radio personalities, I-hang-around-industry-people people, purists, & just plain normal brICKs I'd still be addicted...loggin on on the regular even 5mins just to see what's happening, or what trash is being talked bout, or who's being slandered.

General Discussion / In with the new?
« on: October 17, 2007, 01:28:04 PM »


As the first performer signed to the Artist Nation imprint, her agreement with Live Nation is built on the idea that an aggressive entertainment company can sell Madonna in more ways than ever.

It points the way toward a major-label system that will be even less about innovative music, and even more about innovative marketing.

Executives valued for their ability to find talented bands and artists who excel only at music, and not glamour, will become extinct at this mega-corporation level. Their future will be in smaller niche markets, on smaller labels, which cater to hardcore music fans. Those fans are still out there by the tens of millions, as peer-to-peer file sharing has demonstrated, but the Artist Nation model isn't for them. It's for and about celebrities, and the people who can't get enough of them.

No one can begrudge Madonna's business smarts. She saw this as a way to get even more rich and more famous, if that's possible. Live Nation is taking a huge risk investing so heavily in an icon who will turn 50 next year. It's betting on the idea that it can sell Madonna not just through concert tickets, where the two shared $86 million in revenue last year, but also through record sales, merchandising, fan clubs, Web sites, DVDs, music-related television and film projects, and sponsorship deals.

The deal likely means the rich will get richer if the music industry adopts the Artist Nation model. Multimedia stars such as Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, Eminem, Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Lopez, U2's Bono and a handful of other established performers for whom music is just one part of what they do, and how they sell, should be smacking their lips.

Meanwhile, it's more bad news for the established major labels. Live Nation presents a threat to the near monopoly once enjoyed by Warner Brothers, with whom Madonna has been contracted for 25 years, as well as Sony BMG, Universal and Capitol/EMI.

In the past, the majors have worked out Madonna-style partnerships with artists such as Robbie Williams and Korn to share not just in their record sales but in all their music-related income. But they have been slow to remake their business model, and some artists -- such as Radiohead -- are beginning to abandon the majors as a 20th Century relic and set off on their own. Last week, Radiohead started selling its new album as a digital download through its own Web site at a price determined by each consumer.

Madonna's decision strongly suggests that even the artists who benefited most from the majors' business-as-usual approach are no longer interested in living in the past.

Now the nation's dominant concert promoter has set itself up as a new breed of record company, gunning to sign the same big-name artists that have been the majors' meal ticket for a half-century and offering them one-stop shopping benefits. With Starbucks and Live Nation now in the music-label business, can other powerful corporations with music-related product -- such as Steve Jobs' Apple or Paul Allen's Microsoft -- be far from establishing their own labels?

But these multifaceted deals only make sense for a few artists. For a new or midsize band with a niche audience, the Live Nation-Madonna model has nothing to do with their reality, and probably never will. Artist Nation points the way toward a future where the biggest corporations will be about only the biggest stars and the most revenue streams. Smaller artists will likely gravitate toward some variation of the Radiohead model, a combination of touring, niche marketing and direct-to-fan sales that doesn't require the involvement of multinational conglomerate.

As for Artist Nation, celebrities only need apply. Hello, Madonna -- a celebrity with a profound understanding of who she is at this stage in her career. She no longer needs a record company. She needs a marketing machine that can help her cash in on all the business opportunities that her music made possible.

Speak on it fam. Whatchu think of the label model they're talking about?

I think the bolded parts put the whole underground/commercial....pure/diluted arguments into perspective and to rest.

Movie Talk / Transformers explanation...
« on: July 09, 2007, 11:47:51 AM » by diehard fans say it's wack. Haven't seen it yet, so haven't seen the alledged trailer that plays before the movie starts.

@those that have seen it, if you think back does the theory that it's the purposely unnamed trialler for the Voltron movie seem true from what you saw?

There's a serious clamp-down from Paramount on that unnamed trailer poppin up anywhere on the net. They have'nt even posted it up on their own site yet.

General Discussion / Stuff of Legends
« on: July 02, 2007, 12:21:04 PM »
Alex Okosi, formerly vice president and GM of MTV Networks Africa, has been promoted to the new role of senior vice president and MD, MTV Networks Africa. The appointment was announced end of last week by Alex Ferrari, COO, MTV Networks International.

Okosi's promotion recognises his substantial contribution to creating and growing MTV's multimedia entertainment portfolio in sub-Saharan Africa, which includes six music and kids' TV channels across the MTV, VH1 and Nickelodeon brands.

Nigerian-born Okosi joined MTV Networks International in 2003 and was the architect of the launch of MTV base, MTV's first bespoke channel for Africa, subsequently leading it to become what is reputed to be the most widely distributed music and youth channel in the region. According to MTV, the channel reaches an estimated 50 million viewers in sub-Saharan Africa via its 24-hour satellite pay-TV channel and terrestrial TV blocks and serves as a new medium for advertisers and brands targeting the ma** African youth demographic.

In his expanded role, Okosi is responsible for all aspects of MTV Networks Africa's business operations, with the ongoing task of growing MTVNI's brands in key territories as well as launching viable radio, mobile and online offerings that will resonate with consumers in Africa.

Said Ferrari, “Alex's knowledge and insights into the African marketplace are critical to ensuring MTV Networks' ongoing growth in the continent, and he continues to prove that he has what it takes to drive our success in the region.”

Okosi is a nine-year veteran of MTV Networks, joining the MTV New York team in 1998 where he worked in the Sponsorship Development and Trade Marketing group, before joining the MTV Networks Affiliate Sales and Marketing team in Los Angeles in 2000. Prior to joining MTV Networks Africa, he worked for MTV Networks International, as a key member of the International Business Development and Strategy team, culminating in the development of the Africa business.
-Biz Community

^^^Man has done quite a bit over the years. Did'nt realise the portfolio included those kiddie channels too -where the market also includes a lot of adults too. Big ups to dude.

General Discussion / How was your weekend?
« on: May 28, 2007, 12:30:27 PM »
50 supposedly banked 400mill in that time.
That signature laugh is about to get louder.

If anyone has quicker searching skills.......

I've spent the last couple of minutes trying to establish 50's relationship with Vitamin water making company Glaceau. If the internet"s" rumours are true (he purchased a 10% stake 3yrs ago), Coke just having bought company for 4.1bill means Curtis Jackson just made 400mill over the weekend.  400 mill? fl!p. Hollering at  Boniqua, Aquila, or whatever them flavoured water companies stocked in Checkers might not be such a bad idea!  

Ja lost.

General Discussion / "Hustling"
« on: May 23, 2007, 04:06:27 PM »
Dear Diary,

Hip Hop this, hip hop that...when will this actually turn into something? For those who have done the basics of independently releasing music, from recording, to marketing, to networking, to getting your music all over the world (though still in admittedly not enough hands), to finding other opportunities to progress off the strength of what your music has done, it seems like a never-ending cycle when you see others only doing exactly the same thing you may have done 10 years ago. Makes one remember one of Hov's line "I know where you're going/ I've read your mind's navigational system" and chuckle. Damn, dude was'nt just spitting that arrogance, that's exactly the truth about what he was seeing happening around him.

It's all the same characters in the soapie, just different casting of faces. You almost cringe thinkin to yourself, "damn..I was just like him" when you look at the new faces cast in a specific role. New energy is always needed. Hip Hop was built by "people against the dictates of society."

How does the soapie end & we start having a much stronger, newer, updated & I emphasis dear diary the word updated version of the newer, more entertaining production? Well, maybe actually just taking it off the air I guess.

There's a couple of middle aged/"edging on getting old people", who are taking what I hold so hip hop culture, & are actually beating me at making significant real life wealth building moves out of this. Yeah how about a recording studio to hire out, yeah how about a record label, yeah how about just selling beats to artists, how about milking the endoresment & sponsorship market. That all sounds fun, and suitable for me seeing as I am a head. Hmm, how about I just quit this whole soapie and start my own? Because clearly this one is getting as bad and as repetitive as Santa Barbara got at the end of it's life. How many times could Mason keep beefing with his pops then coming back again. Come to think of it, it's such a trip thinkin how fine Kelly was, then reality hitting when seeing the same woman today. Mmmmad old. Time books out on you. Hmmm, same thing I guess. Wanting to do what you love the most, a dream you can carry for years, then decades, with a couple of what you may have thought as major successes only fizzling in the background. Then you wake up & see Kelly looking like a 60/70 something ytear old woman. Damn.

I've just been beaten by a couple of old people that know nothing about hip hop. I mean, no disrespect, they're well established in their respective fields of business and politics, but had the foresight to holla at Nelly and say aye listen here, let's talk about us having the exclusive rights to distribute and license Pimp Juice throughout Africa, I mean Africa is a big mufufurrker but these Americans don't know that. Get him to host 2 years worth of Pimp My Ride episodes for the African Market. Do his Vokal branding while we at it. Make a couple of quick millions, coz I mean hey, we love fizzy drinks out here man. Coca Cola is in every gwash area in Africa. Even when they don't have electricity, a coca cola branded tuckshop is somewhere. Those old peeps are the real hustlers.

Anyway for now, just for now, they win. I lose. Time to re-strategize.

Hot Traxxx / the "Commercial" Debate
« on: May 22, 2007, 10:30:26 AM »
Now, somehow the presence of ignorant statements lately, from supposed "commercial" hip hop lovers on AG, has lead to a situation where statements like this are made:

Quote from: "Dplanet"

Nelly is pure pop music. His lyrical skills are minimal & he ain't saying shit. Listening to Nelly is like listening to a tv jingle - catchy and annoying with no content. Great ringtone music.

Now, granted the Nelly /KRS thing was stupid, that's been discussed. But because there's been questionable characters waving Nelly's name somehow that dude has been put in the same category as Vanilla Ice. Everyone in S.A. hip hop seems to think Nelly is the epitome of wackness. No skill, story telling ability and what not. In most cases, fact is when people don't like a Neptunes sound type of beat, they don't listen they hear. Just like if people don't like a DJ Premiere type of beat, they don't listen they just hear..oh that's that underground sh!t.

Is Nelly pure Pop music- yes. Was H-to-the-Izzo pure pop music -Yes.

Are his lyrical skills minimul - No.

He ain't sayin shit - No.

Evidence (All from the ONE album "Country Grammar" which I think makes him not the end all poster boy of wackness niggaz seem to be on:

"Greed, Hate, Envy": 3rd verse
One time out in the Range Rover
(WOOP WOOP, WOOP!) Aww shit they pulled me over
What tha hell y'all f***in wit me fo?
Speed limit 30 just doin 34
"Yeah son, where the gun?" It's at home wit tha dope
"Oh you a smart a** ha?" Nah that's my lil joke
"How bout I tow yo truck in?" Ain't no need to be provoked
besides everything up in here done been smoked
I ain't got nuttin but tapes and CDs
Pocket full of G's and two tickets across seas
So me and my boo can lay under the palm trees
Ain't no more questions then hand me my ID
You could tell he was pissed
cuz the black man in the black range
doin black things wit his black change
Doin the right thing, drivin his a** insane
And if I wasn't in his face he probably be callin me names

^^Personally the way a certian verse was done on the much loved Jigga "99 Problems" (where the cop pulls up to ask him questions)-though autobiographical, it sounds like it was inspired by the way this verse was put together.

Humour: "For my" 3rd verse

Four karats in my earring, five around my knuckle
Six wrap the wrist, check the belt buckle
Leave them wit it look like Nelly I didn't know
If you was the Jackie Frost why didn't you say so
Somebody gotta shine my nigga why not me
Even my dentist told me floss 7 days a week
Freeza brought out the piece Gucci and hat sweet
Butter soft leather seats for trash talkin' freaks

^^ I mean really, comedy making fun of the floss game the way that scenario is painted all in 8 bars.

I mean other lines like on "Hot Sh!t" sheist niggaz who snatch yo' life niggaz/Trife niggaz, who produce and sell the same beat twice, nigga It's just comedy.
Bars like:
Smokin on dubs in clubs, blowin up like cocoa puffs
Sippin Bud, gettin perved and getting dubbed
Daps and hugs, mean mugs and shoulder shrugs
And it's all because, 'ccumulated enough stretch
just to navigate it, wood decorated on chrome
and it's candy painted, fans fainted - while I'm entertainin
Wild ain't it? How me and money end up hangin
..made me (as a fan of rap music) picture being in St. Louis and starting to make it in whatever profession. What's an emcee when he can't place you in his own shoes and you can visualize the picture he's painting with words, imagining walking through the scenario? How many times you get daps and hugs, all at the same time there some mean muggin and shoulder shruggin going on...that's all just relevant sh!t most people experience in a social setting...And the way he spits it makes all a funny situation when it's usually accompanied by either insecurity/cockiness/ on indifference about the situation when it's actually happening.

I personally think he has had a string of very very weak and wack albums after this first banging one. There was display of some decent lyrical skills. He was saying something. Pioneered a new sound. It was mostly a good hour of comedy, with doses of autobiographical rhymes he and there, inspiring tracks about the reality of life like the advice given in "Other Side".
Anyway, when did it become unskillful for an emcee to display humour. Everyone has to always be angry about the world? People forgetting how all this sh!t started. Today it can't co-exist with Edutainment? Come on man.

I've already established these "so-called" "commercial hip hop" lovers don't know sh!t about that part of rap music. & so their arguments include name drops where they don't really know what they're talking about, let alone having a knowledge of how that came from the foundations laid in the past.

Can people just fall back from using Nelly as the definition of complete have things like 3 Six Mafia, or Chingy, or East Side Boyz who have trully displayed NO lyrical skill, no content, ain't sayin sh!t, and are like a ringtone as D plizzay said. One hot album is good enough to not be cast in this same category. One may have fallen off, but point is he was once have fallen off in the first place.
Stop following the "crowd" with "name droppin" "so and so" is wack when you can't back up the evidence-"it's just what the cool people say"!

& no don't come at me about MIMS, Chingy & sh!t, just because they get heavy rotation, that's not commercial, that's just crap. That sh!t is not even selling.  
Putting every crap that sounds terrible into the category "commercial" hip hop is like someone who has no clue about Staten Island emcees' type of rap music coming up in here talking about when it comes to including martial arts in music Carl Douglas's "Everybody was Kung Fu fighting" bodied anything Wu Tang ever did. Sh!t is that different and unrelated.  

The point I'm making with this post is sometimes; bullsh!t is just bullsh!t being pa**ed off as "rap music"...But it's not fair at all to categorize every bit of this bullsh!t into the category "commercial hip hop". It's not.

General Discussion / @ bondizzo
« on: May 21, 2007, 03:35:34 PM »
Apologies for the harsh words on that other thread bra. Well not really harsh just some inappropriate language. We just sharing views after all!

Besides, you think Chingy is a tight emcee dawg. That alone deserves a lashing! :wink:  

But sayin Bow wow is a legend is just clear you're just taking a piss at cats.

Media / 24 vs Prison Break
« on: May 16, 2007, 11:44:51 AM »
How gangsta is Jack Bauer!!!  Seen that opening to sixth season?  

Who would win, Michael Scofield evading Jack, or Jack hunting Scofield down and catching him?

Honourable mention has to go to the cat I thought would've been out the game a long time ago...T-Bag, the lowest of the low sick minded tralier trash cat keeps coming back on top just when u think he's down & out.

General Discussion / @milk
« on: May 16, 2007, 11:37:01 AM »
Check your PM!
Damn, you were here a second ago!

Movie Talk / T.I. ...once again
« on: May 08, 2007, 04:05:15 PM »
I know MrC won't care too much for this piece of news  :lol: but hottdamn!!


Later this year, T.I. will follow his acclaimed big-screen acting debut in last year's ATL by co-starring in what is among 2007's most anticipated new films, American Gangster.  Due November 2nd, the Ridley Scott-directed crime drama will see T.I. sharing the screen with Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe.  A slate of further projects - via T.I.'s own Grand Hustle Films - will be announced in the coming weeks. (Press Release)

Scoring a Ridley Scott movie isn't small talk. T.I. bout to do big things again..
>New album June July,
>Mean multimillion dollar promotion deal with General Motors,
>And the Ridley Scott movie in Nov?
Damn. That's that Real sh!t starter right there.

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