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General Discussion / chrisette
« on: January 04, 2008, 02:28:07 PM »
Hey all

whats the title of the trak rocking on the triumph beat? please up if you can. peace. happy new year.

General Discussion / FirefestivalDec15Johazardous
« on: December 12, 2007, 03:08:34 AM »
please see AG events section for more.

SA___NAirobi___Harare___Fire On the Mountain ___15 December___Drill Hall___FREEEEE___12midday onwards ...Add us!!!


Hip Hop Events / Fire On The Mountain
« on: December 10, 2007, 08:13:09 AM »

Hello All

Fire on the Mountain for 1 day - 15 December 2007. Each of the 5 festival stages will be represented at the miniature festival, which will be held, thanks to the support of Khanya College, JoubertParkProject and Gearhouse at Drill Hall in the Jozi city centre, a block east from the Noord Street taxi rank on Twist.

More than 30 acts!!! Afterparty at Mind Your Head Rooftop. More as the week progresses

Please also see:

General Discussion / SOS
« on: December 06, 2007, 08:32:03 AM »
hey, peoples

am looking for links with members of SOS...sake of skill.....are they on myspace by any chance...if so a link would do.

thanks all.

General Discussion / SA Hip hop Memories
« on: November 09, 2007, 04:38:45 AM »
these are mine. what are yours

1988: My older brother comes back from his first term at boarding school with a RapSheet collection, Big Daddy Kanes Long live the Kane and LL cool J on tape and mother goes beserk...I was 6 singin "you stupid mutha%&##..."

1993: my brother goes to Wits and comes back with digable planets, black sheep, NWA and West Coast Allstars [we all in the same gang] cds and a new computer...Tetris and Pacman enter my life at the same doubt the most vivid, best winter holidays of all time for me.

1994: POC performs Never Again at a Studio Mix/B&H concert after an exposive boom shaka/trompies performance and kills it :!:

2001: Skwattah Camp ...the rest shut the

2006: Snoop Dogg C-walking to Tu-pacs Hail Mary at Joburg a blue Dashiki :!:  :!:  :!:

Hot Traxxx / never again-POC
« on: November 08, 2007, 09:02:06 AM »
Hi all

Im looking for the lyrics to POCs Never Again...and possibly the track if anyone can up it please?

Thanks muchly

General Discussion / Euro child trafficking scanalousness
« on: November 05, 2007, 05:44:24 AM »

General Discussion / UCT- music school
« on: October 17, 2007, 11:04:32 AM »
hi AG
anybody at..or know anybody at UCT school of arts please?

so does anybody know what the deal is if you wanna do a Bmus ...entry requirements (like must you play an instrument) and courses on offer and what not.

links to a site would be great

thanks a bunch

Politics / violent crime and jailing in
« on: September 14, 2007, 07:58:08 AM »
please see

and in response, I would say

Observations herein are anecdotal, yet substantive in questioning some of the reasoning around the spate of violent crime in SA by the ISS’s Antony Altbeker.

The given analysis is skewed in ascribing the upsurge in violent crime in SA to policy choices and failures after 1994. It does not take into account of the embeddedness of violence in South African culture and everyday life. The country’s violent history spans decades, if not centuries. We come from a time, not so long ago, where the state’s use of force was a natural tool to illicit or maintain certain status quos. Inversely, citizens used violence to bring the state’s attention to injustices.

The culture of violence permeates through South African culture despite a dramatic switch in political dispensation in 1994. For example, when workers or ordinary citizens are disgruntled, they take to the streets. Infrastructure must be trashed and burned down before the point is made. This is not a result of a post 1994 fumble in policy formulation, but an extension of the country’s close relationship with the use of force. The crime problem was not “created” post 1994, as is proposed by Altbeker. Criminal behaviour is synonymous with South African History, be it by the state or ordinary citizens.

The country is yet to reconcile and address the historical relationship between law enforcement and the citizen. Not so long ago, the Policeman was a figure of brute and force. The prudent thing to do for a citizen during that time thus, was to defy law enforcement. Though this may not be the case now, police have not fully transcended that image. By extension the relationship between the Police and citizens remains problematic. One cannot therefore speak of police as “armed social workers” in a country where police wield unconcealed firearms, and walking into your local Standard Bank, you might be greeted by a security guard, casually wielding an AK 47. Besides creating a state of public inertia, this speaks to how casual we are as a country with issues and instruments of violence. Police, it can be argued, many times fail to fulfill the function of serving and protecting. They continue to be forceful in their enforcement of the law, as a rule, and not the exception.

It is a gross oversimplification of matters to draw one-track parallels between violent crime and the deficit in the number of people the country has behind bars. Combating crime is not a simple matter of jailing more people. An increased incarceration rate cannot be the only consideration and cure in doing so

Altbeker’s analysis also joins the chorus singing South Africa “lost its marbles” in 1994. This is not so. This country has functioned without marbles from time immemorial. The country as it is, is a manifestation of sustained trauma, which births, nurses and reinforces itself with every atrocious event reported. This is what we need to reconcile as a country form all areas, including law enforcement. If anything, the country needs to rehabilitate itself and continue to nurture non-violent ways as far as possible.  This is not to say that a more robust law enforcement programme need not come into effect. The increase in and effect of violent crime is horrendous and cannot be ignored. But jailing more people is not the only answer.

this is merely a thought on my part so far... a rough draft. please let me know before quoting elsewhere besides AG. any takers?

General Discussion / Hola Sbu Zuma
« on: June 12, 2007, 03:20:13 PM »
so Durban with it! Isn't he from KwaMashu/Umlazi? musta been one of those oh too familiar cla**ics...durbanites can all attest "phela mina ng'waka Mashu".

...and he fetched his own machine gun the youngster....Mshini Wakhe...

Deac, photoshop that dude pronto

Hip Hop Events / When We Were Black
« on: June 06, 2007, 03:59:22 PM »
been checking out the re-run on SABC1. Think its a mad kewl portrayal and angle.But dayyumn !! The Casper character kills it- has me rolling all the damn time.he's on point.

Sports Arena / Herchelle you beauty
« on: January 16, 2007, 12:17:44 PM »
fuuuuuuuck, leave him alone.....what is the world coming to when a guy cant call people " a bunch of f***ing animals" ...thats sputting shit mildly... I would have gone Grimey Artest on those fools with unequivocal quickness boy, shit.

General Discussion / deletion...SA hip hop is dead
« on: November 22, 2006, 03:18:28 PM »
before the untimely deletion, i was saying yo....

Sdudla wrote: It's this very logic that has allowed faggots like H2O, Morafe, HHP,Myman, and the rest of them to exist for so long. If all the dudes I've mentioned are rappin, then Zola and Kabelo are the dopest rappers in this raibow nation-

yeah, lets all bust a black label and braai in celebration. i have my opinions about that nation building bullcrap that allows sub-standard material to define us as a people in the name of proudly SA-ness

my sentiments exactly sdudla. I have said it befor, I wish one day to org a Sa hip hop honours show and put kwaito cats on stages...give cats like Chiskop, Tkzee, Senyaka and Zola lifetime achievement awards...i swear. those cats have done more to elevate SA hip hop that rap cats...or have paved a direction of where it should look to in terms of look,feel and style,(minus the lyrical content).so-called rap cats (the ones who get airplay, that is) release three albums and thnk its time to relax, too old to battle and what not. SA rap knows very little about paying dues. another nail in its coffin. 10 years and three albums...all below par at that, aint shit.

General Discussion / SA Hip Hop is dead if...
« on: November 22, 2006, 09:36:00 AM »
we admit and give salience to that absurd proposition that Teargas is a hip hop outfit. its bad enough that the same happenned for h2o- those cats arn't rappers, my brother and i maintain (had this conversation with my older brother initialy). we respect Slice for coming out repping Kwaito...f*** he has a better flow than most cats.

General Discussion / make it rain
« on: November 17, 2006, 10:32:50 AM »
how many of you wanna bet that some stupid Afrrican rap artist will soon purport to "make it Rain" (throwing money into the audience during a performance) that has made the south (US) go buck...

my money's on Crazy Lou...if ever there was a swag jacker

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