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General Discussion / Re: Gareth Cliff's Letter
« on: October 25, 2010, 11:12:58 AM »
Condescending tone aside, there is a lot of truth in that letter.

just a shame that it is overshadowed by the few stupid statements.

cosig!!

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General Discussion / Re: Random Thoughts
« on: October 21, 2010, 10:12:08 AM »
marxism is speechless on the Black question.

same with BC, its speechles on cla**, it doesn't differentiate between Motsepe, myself and Katlego from Orange farm or Ayanda from Site C. Also its not clear on how to deal with some of the conservative ideologies amongst black people!!

Both of them have their own limitations, thats all!!

the problem is that humanitarian theories all have an a**umptive logic of there being a cause for violence, whether that cause is real or imagined. They then proceed with arguing that the cause for violence is or not justified. They are speechless when it comes to violence without cause.

Marxism's ethical grammar of exploitation and alienation fails on the Black question. It can't deal with the ontological oppression of Black people, that it to say, being oppressed just for being Black (the colour of your skin marking you out as an easily available slave). Slavery is not central to marxism and this is unfortunate for two reasons, the 1st is that the rise of capitalism was not through  approaching a worker with variable capital (wage) but it was with approaching the Black body with all forms of violence. Secondly the prison industrial complex (read here : http://colorlines.com/archives/1998/09/masked_racism_reflections_on_the_prison_industrial_complex.html ) shows a return to capitalism's initial desire; enslavement of black people. Marxism falls short in that it sees white supremacy as being a derivative of capitalism instead of seeing it as being at the base which makes them fail to explain the slave trade; why not enslave europeans who are closer? It does not expalin apartheid either.

As for BC not differentaiting between Motsepe and you; Fanon said it "I am over dertemined from without. I am not a victim of an idea others have of me, I am a victim of my own appearance". So the "idea" of your relation to the modes of production is not what marks you or motsepe for oppression, it is your own black skin. If motsepe is in some white countryside that has never read forbes magazine, his skin colour marks him out for oppression. "he is still just a nigga".

So no bra, Bc is not speechless on the cla** question but beings existing as sub-humans 1st have to fight for recognition as human before they fight for a cla**-less society.

I understand what you talking about, for me its not either-or. I think dismissing or rejecting Marxism on the grounds that it does not deal or fail to address the black condition is just wrong, same as anyone who does that to Feminism or BC. We all know that in SA especially cla**, race and gender are interlinked.

Can you imagine if  Marxists, those who believe in BC and feminists ( i hate this categorisation, but i had to do it for the sake of clarity) could find a common ground and learn from each other instead of trying to swallow everything else up and pull it into their embrace.  Just imagine what would emerge from something like that!! But yeah, ultimately, the test of any analysis and body of thought is action and lived reality.

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General Discussion / Re: Random Thoughts
« on: October 20, 2010, 09:33:49 AM »
marxism is speechless on the Black question.

same with BC, its speechles on cla**, it doesn't differentiate between Motsepe, myself and Katlego from Orange farm or Ayanda from Site C. Also its not clear on how to deal with some of the conservative ideologies amongst black people!!

Both of them have their own limitations, thats all!!

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People like me- K'naan

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hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?

awuzukufumana ncwadi enye ethetha nagzo zonke ezi zinto, kodwa ke ungafunda iincwadi ezinjenge Ngqumbo Yeminyanya. Kwaye ezinye izinto azibhalwanga koko umntu uthi azazi ngokubuza nangokujonga indlela ekwenziwa ngayo izinto kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba yilento yenziwe ngumbhali weliphepha.

so what wrong with putting it on paper then for those who dont have access to such information. your logic here puzzles me. what are you really saying so i cant understand?



ey man im not looking for an argument, you asked me a question and i responded.... all im saying is that there is nothing new from what she wrote,  she just talks about the significance of various Xhosa traditions, she does not dig deeper i.e how these traditions have evolved over the years etc etc and i never said she should not have put it on paper!! 

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hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

loonto intsha okanye indala ifumaneke kweziphi incwadi?

awuzukufumana ncwadi enye ethetha nagzo zonke ezi zinto, kodwa ke ungafunda iincwadi ezinjenge Ngqumbo Yeminyanya. Kwaye ezinye izinto azibhalwanga koko umntu uthi azazi ngokubuza nangokujonga indlela ekwenziwa ngayo izinto kwaye ndiqinisekile ukuba yilento yenziwe ngumbhali weliphepha.

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what they do- The Roots

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hay suka kule ndawo sendiyifundile akhonto intsha okanye ebendingayazi ayithethayo lo sisi!!

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One (RMX)- Immortal Technique feat Akir

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Geek Section / Re: Deacon sucker for love Frost HELP!!!
« on: October 07, 2010, 12:53:31 PM »
i use iSquint(mac), there is Videora for windows. They are both free!!!

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Superheroes------Whosane & Jean Grae

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General Discussion / Re: yo SONG of the DAY 2010...........................!
« on: September 30, 2010, 10:17:56 AM »
Here i go again- Masta Ace & Edo G feat Jamelle Bundy

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General Discussion / Re: yo SONG of the DAY 2010...........................!
« on: September 23, 2010, 03:27:18 PM »
Frontlines- Diabolic feat Immortal Technique

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General Discussion / Re: R15000 for a whisky shot
« on: September 21, 2010, 12:43:12 PM »




yeah, the same cat who, while a prisoner, exposed the prison warden corruption. he organised hidden cameras and got them installed inside the prison without the knowledge of the prison wardens. remember that shit was big on the news? I have his book where he talks about his life and all that happened while in prison. very interesting read.
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read the book too.. amazing book.. I heard that it was gona be adapted into a screenplay....
Gayton Mckenzi most defntly had the ballz of steel that enabled him to do what he did

I been to ZAR too and all I can say is Phuuuuuuuuu
on the nite I was there Juju was also there.. and it ws a nightmare for anyone to get in..at some stage they blocked the elivators so that no one could go in while Juju and his entourage (abo Zizi Kodwa and Zuma's son) were getting in..
Yerr kuyafrontwa kulandawo.. amajita fondin anxiba ishirt ezine collar eziyiseven at a time...
and u pay like R33 for iSavanna.. inwele ze hunniez go up to their a**ess....
and needless to say I will never set my foot in that place ever again... its the typical plastic life yase Goliwood *spitting twice*
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yeah, the same cat who, while a prisoner, exposed the prison warden corruption. he organised hidden cameras and got them installed inside the prison without the knowledge of the prison wardens. remember that shit was big on the news? I have his book where he talks about his life and all that happened while in prison. very interesting read.

read the book too.. amazing book.. I heard that it was gona be adapted into a screenplay....
Gayton Mckenzi most defntly had the ballz of steel that enabled him to do what he did

I been to ZAR too and all I can say is Phuuuuuuuuu
on the nite I was there Juju was also there.. and it ws a nightmare for anyone to get in..at some stage they blocked the elivators so that no one could go in while Juju and his entourage (abo Zizi Kodwa and Zuma's son) were getting in..
Yerr kuyafrontwa kulandawo.. amajita fondin anxiba ishirt ezine collar eziyiseven at a time...
and u pay like R33 for iSavanna.. inwele ze hunniez go up to their a**ess....
and needless to say I will never set my foot in that place ever again... its the typical plastic life yase Goliwood *spitting twice*
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Wow...f*** it..I am going save me R200 cover charge and 15K....can't be seen in the same circles as Juju...
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Azanian Souljahs

Only an enemy of the revolution would utter such statements!!!

Aluta Continua

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General Discussion / Re: SONDEZA
« on: September 21, 2010, 12:26:12 PM »

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