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Media / ZUBZ Case Update
« on: April 29, 2008, 01:54:40 PM »
We've been instructed to avoid using the said video at all costs.
The document is attached: be warned its lengthy.
But for those interested here you go!

General Discussion / @ EXPLICIT
« on: April 24, 2008, 12:14:43 PM »
I don't usually listen to radio but as my man and I were driving to I don't remeber where last Friday, We heard your (w)Rap Up on the Fresh Drive show. We really enjoyed it. Ur delivery and content was on point.
Do you do the slot every week?

General Discussion / Belated Birthday Greetings
« on: April 17, 2008, 08:25:25 AM »
To the universal boys.
bricK and blaqsouljah

A few days late but good wishes nonetheless.

Media / Signs Of The Times thru Photography
« on: April 14, 2008, 05:59:21 PM »
So I'm an amateur photographer 8) This thread is for all your pics that capture current affairs, pics that are a comtemporary witness( wa**up wis), things that may go down in history er...dunno how to explain look at pics and you'll understand.
Please take some on ur phone if you see something fitting and upload here.

General Discussion / New Beginings
« on: April 14, 2008, 04:21:12 PM »
Earlier this year i posted athread called Know your worth.
I resigned last week because the new budgets have been announced at work and I felt overlooked financially by my greedy boss.

So they offer me a promotion but the money doesn't match the new responsibilities I would have to take on. She knows I love my job and she knows how well I do it but yet she still gives herself a fat raise and expects me to smile coz she gav me a "promotion." Evil bitch. Phuck that shyt.

Luckily I got an offer last week and I can leave with my head held high while they struggle to find some1 to take over.  They are gonna learn that Not every1 is disposable and U don't know what you got til it's gone - the hard way.

Now my question is how do I go about this leaving it all behind - without burning bridges.
I have built a wealth of contacts, strategies and excel sheets that makes ish run smooth. Anything we need it's a call away. Any mergencies I don't stress coz I have tried and tested means to rectify ish. Do I pa** on my contacts and techniques to the boss or do I leave them to suffer and realise just how hard I worked?

Politics / Elections in Zim
« on: March 05, 2008, 06:06:41 PM »
On the 29th of thsi month (March) Millions of voters in Zimbabwe will head to the polls to vote for a (new) president.
A colleague in the newsroom tells me, that Mugabe has barred Western countries from sending observers. Which is all very well as long as African and other observers are allowed but what irks me is him throwing out statements like There will never be regime change in Zimbabwe and the minister of prisons ordering his officers to vote for Zanu PF.

Is there anyone based in  Zim who can give us a more accurate picture as to what's going on, on the ground? 

Hip Hop Events / PARTYPeople Aftermath
« on: February 22, 2008, 10:24:24 AM »
Endz the otherness and Kanyi killed it at the end with the freestyles!!!

Heads in Jozi, you wanna be at that Bahamadia gig. Antonia is the real thing, that good rap music!

Most fun I've had at a gig so far this year.
Can I get a witness!?

Politics / ZUMA: Mbeki Plotted against me
« on: February 21, 2008, 10:29:36 AM »
Jacob Zuma has accused President Thabo Mbeki and suspended national director of public prosecutions Vusi Pikoli of being the chief suspects in a conspiracy against him.

And the presidential hopeful has stated under oath that the decision to recharge him and French arms company Thint for corruption was part of a "carefully orchestrated, politically inspired and driven strategy to exclude me from any meaningful political role".

In an affidavit served on the Mauritian Supreme Court on Wednesday morning, Zuma asked the court for the right to stop the National Prosecuting Authority obtaining the originals of 13 documents used to convict his former financial adviser, Schabir Shaik, of fraud and corruption.
Explaining why he believed there was a political conspiracy against him, Zuma again questioned the circumstances under which following Shaik's conviction he was dismissed as deputy president and then charged in August 2005.

"Both these decisions were made shortly after Pikoli had accompanied the president on a trip to Chile," Zuma said.

"In fact, the president and Pikoli allege that they arrived at their respective decisions independently of each other - I have difficulty in believing to be the truth."

He added that, at the time that he was first charged, "I would most likely have been elevated to the position of president of the RSA once the current incumbent's term of office had expired".

He also confirmed that Justice Minister Brigitte Mabandla had used his treatment by the soon-to-be disbanded Scorpions unit to argue for Pikoli's axing.

According to Zuma, Mabandla had complained that Pikoli had "acted improperly in commissioning known apartheid operatives in a search and seizure at my residence".

"He (also) commissioned a report which investigated my interaction with African leaders and whether I posed any threat to the security of the state," said Zuma.

Zuma did not comment further on Mabandla's claims, saying only that the Scorpions had "not applied strictly prosecutorial criteria in its investigation and decision to prosecute me".

However, for the first time he explained what he believed had motivated certain individuals to oppose his mooted leadership of South Africa: his compa**ion for the poor.

"I verily believe that my prosecution has, from inception, been politically motivated as a result of the political beliefs and principles which I hold dear and which some of my political adversaries seek to negate by denying me the right to occupy important political office.

"I have always been perceived - as a populist attuned to the needs of the ma**es and the poor. I am also known to have strong views on many contentious issues.

"It suffices to say that certain individuals deployed in established institutions both inside and outside the ANC are strongly opposed to my stewardship of the ANC and the country," he said.

The disputed documents include the diary of former Thint representative Alain Thethard, in which he noted a meeting in which he, Shaik and Zuma allegedly discussed a R500 000 bribe for Zuma.

According to the State, this would be in exchange for Zuma protecting Thint from a potentially damaging arms deal inquiry.

The Cape Argus has established that Zuma's efforts to stop the documents being handed over included a recent meeting with Mauritian Prime Minister Dr Navinchandra Ramgoolam.

The Mauritian attorney-general was to indicate on Wednesday whether it would oppose Zuma's application.

Media / Phosa's drinkin Pimp Juice all the way to the bank
« on: February 20, 2008, 11:51:20 AM »
Phosa has juicy plans for youth
The ANC treasurer-general’s company is busy acquiring a television show and an energy drink, writes Buddy Naidu. The political heavyweight confirmed on Friday that his youth and entertainment company, Mojalife, was in talks to secure the rights to produce a local version of the cult MTV show Pimp My Ride.

Mojalife is negotiating with the UK- based television production company Screen Ventures, as well as MTV Networks, to film 52 episodes of the programme in South Africa.

Speaking to Business Times on Friday, however, Phosa declined to divulge more information. He would only say that it was anticipated that filming would begin later this year.

“I cannot say anything else, really, as talks are continuing,” he said.

He would not comment on rumours that US rapper Nelly (real name Cornell Haynes) — with whom he has an extensive business relationship — would present the show when he visits the country later this year.

Pimp My Ride is produced by the MTV music channel and, since its first airing, has spawned both a British and a European version.

The show features old and dilapidated cars (owned mainly by youngsters) that are given high-tech facelifts with state-of- the-art sound systems, plasma-screen TVs and other gadgets.

Pat Dambe, the spokesman for Mojalife, said acquiring the show was in line with the company’s long-term plans to conquer the South African youth market. “Phosa is pa**ionate about the empowerment of the youth and the show would form an integral part of Mojalife’s long- term strategy.”

The company, which has interests in the marketing, music and cellular industry, last year secured the international distribution rights for Nelly’s energy drink, Pimp Juice, which sells more than 2.4 million cans a month in the US.

Hoping to rival Red Bull, the company wants to use the upcoming TV show to market the energy drink in SA. Mojalife also has the rights to distribute it in countries such as Australia, New Zealand and Israel.

The company recently forged links with the Umsobomvu Youth Fund, whereby 250 youngsters were chosen as “pimps” — meaning ‘‘positively intelligently motivated persons”.

They were all given start-up cash to sell prepaid airtime vouchers — as well as Pimp Juice.

According to Phosa, the person who sells the most of these products in a two- year period will win a 1-series BMW and will have his or her entire loan paid back to the fund by Mojalife. Phosa’s a**ault on the youth market could also include bringing Nelly’s popular jeans label, Apple Bottom, to SA.

Said Dambe: “Phosa’s relationship with Nelly is extensive and there are lots of things in the pipeline that I cannot reveal at this moment.”

She confirmed that Nelly would be visiting SA later in the year to carry out promotional work and maybe even do a few concerts.

“Pop culture today transcends colour, cla** and gender and the youth truly love what Nelly represents. Thus our aim is to get youth across the spectrum to become positive and empowered through our various initiatives.”

Phosa, the former Mpumalanga premier, fell out with President Thabo Mbeki in 2001 but made a comeback into the Jacob Zuma-led leadership of the African National Congress during its elections in Polokwane in December.

As one of the party’s top six members and the man who holds the purse strings, he is a major power player. He confirmed on Friday that the ANC’s investment vehicle, Chancellor House, which was part of a group that won Eskom tenders worth R5.8-billion, would withdraw from the project with immediate effect due to ethical considerations.

Engineering company Hitachi Power SA, in which Chancellor House has a 25% stake, was awarded two contracts to build two boiler units at new Eskom plants.

The deal was controversial because the ANC stood to gain from contracts awarded by the parastatal.

Politics / CHINA IN AFRICA, what R your thoughts?
« on: February 19, 2008, 03:02:15 PM »
The speed with which China has achieved its African breakthrough is nothing short of stunning. For the last four decades, it was France alone among global powers that paid consistent, high-level attention to Africa. French-African summits became fixed biannual rituals, a sort of geopolitical high ma**, as they came to be called, meant to bolster France's place in the world and to harness Africa's economies to France's.

Suddenly, even France's ties to the continent, which date back centuries and include periods of slavery, conquest, colonization and what some have called neocolonization, look decidedly old hat.

The new Chinese player on the block carries none of the historical baggage of its Western counterparts, and has been completely uninhibited in its new African embrace.

Having begun not long ago from a very small base, in the last year or so, China surpa**ed Britain as Africa's third-largest trading partner, behind the United States and France. China may still be a developing country in some respects, but it has also recently zoomed past the World Bank as a lender to the continent, which should tell us something both about China's ambition and Western generosity.

China's leaders have not only summoned their African counterparts to Beijing. In recent years, they have also traveled to Africa with a frequency that leaves their Western counterparts in the dust. This year, in the space of six months, the Chinese president, prime minister and foreign minister all made multicountry visits to the continent.

Just listen to the words of Olusegun Obasanjo:
"From our a**essment, this is the century of China to lead the world," Obasanjo said. "And when you are leading the world we want to be very close behind you."

Many in the West have focused on China's African advance as a threat to their interests. Such criticisms of this latter day scramble are driven by a poor understanding of the stakes for the world, or simply by bad faith. But just as there is real opportunity for Africa in the surging Chinese interest, there are real potential dangers. Africans may have grown weary of the preachiness of the West about democracy and free markets and human rights, and especially about the casual inconsistency, even hypocrisy, with which such notions have been applied in a world whenever they bump up against more tangible interests.

With an ardent new suitor on the scene, feelings of exhilaration may still be too fresh and too powerful to coolly weigh what exactly China has to offer and to distinguish the good from the bad in terms of Africa's own interests.

If one takes China at its own word, though, there are already distinct reasons to worry. China has shown no qualms building a lucrative oil industry in Sudan in the midst of a genocide about which Beijing has found very little to say. In Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe, an African nation with far better than average prospects driven into the ground by a mean spirited and capricious dictator, China has provided technologies to security services enabling them to reinforce their repression, while gobbling up contracts in mining and other industries.

All of this can be placed under the heading "Business is business," which is how a former foreign minister actually explained Beijing's investments in Sudan, which now supplies 7 percent of this country's oil imports. A slightly more politic phrase frequently heard from China is the pledge not to interfere in other countries' internal affairs.

"We believe that people in different regions and countries, including those in Africa, have their right and ability to handle their own issues," said Prime Minister Wen Jiabao during a visit to Egypt in June.

Besides a grating hint of selfishness contained in this kind of language, even a pa**ing familiarity with African realities suffices to know that no-strings-attached commerce and investment is a recipe for disaster.

The grand malady of Africa is its lack of institutions, of good governance and of a functioning pact between state and subject, and a trade in raw materials alone, no matter how booming, is unlikely to fix this.

While democracy and accountabili ty are spreading, far too many African leaders still live as if there is no tomorrow, grabbing up whatever they can now for themselves.

The problem is that tomorrow already looms troublingly on the horizon. Africa has the fastest-growing population of any continent. By 2025, it will equal China's 1.3 billion people, according to the United Nations. By 2050, there will be 1.94 billion Africans.

One thing that is certain today is that the current raw materials boom will not last forever, nor will Africa's natural resources themselves. With populations increasing this rapidly, the threat of laissez-faire, see-no-evil trade that fails to harness revenue to the real needs of Africans is not a threat to the West. It is a menace to the entire world.

General Discussion / RE ARRANGED in accident
« on: February 14, 2008, 03:37:26 PM »
Please spare a thought for the Boondocks provider, that good hearted bike riding guy, AG's resident flirt, TT a.k.a Rearranged Reality.
He was involved in an accident this morning but he was able to send me a text so he'll pull through.

The Office / PMs
« on: November 25, 2007, 05:37:47 PM »
I got an email notification saying I have a new message but when I log onto AG, I can't find the inbox toggle.

Media / SAMA entry deadline
« on: November 20, 2007, 12:55:38 PM »
Two Weeks until entries close for The 14th MTN South African Music Awards

There are only two weeks left until entries close for The 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards that take place in May 2008.  November 30th 2007 is the cut-off date for those who want to enter the most prestigious music awards event on the industry calendar.

With the exception of a handful of categories, product released between 1st December 2006 and 30th November 2007 will be eligible for entry into 2008’s edition of the awards.  Those categories where the release date of the album is not considered are Best Selling Album, the Lifetime Achievement Award, Best Music Video and Record of the Year.  The proprietary online entry system for record companies will once again be used for the submission of entries. Entry forms must be completed and submitted online at

Alternatively, RiSA staff have set up a helpdesk at their premises to a**ist anyone who cannot make use of the online entry system.  RiSA’s offices are located at Unit 4, 150 Bram Fischer Drive, Randburg.

All material being submitted for consideration must reach RiSA by no later than November 30th  2007 for entries to be eligible for the 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards, which are scheduled to take place in early May 2008.

Where eligibility requirements are concerned, entry is open to any qualifying recording artist, director, producer or engineer – the qualifying factor being someone who has been a legal resident in South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, or Botswana for a minimum of six (6) months on the date of entry or is a South African citizen.

For duos or groups, the rules stipulate that not less than 50 percent of the duo or group needs to fall into this citizenship requirement stated above. In addition, unless stated otherwise, collaborations/productions between qualifying artists and international artists are allowed, provided the South African qualifying artists’ participation is given star, or equal, billing.

Rules guiding entry submissions are also available for downloading from the MTN SAMA website –  - a reference tool that serves as a guideline for the entire process of the MTN South African Music Awards.

This year there are an incredible 62 categories, with enhancements to existing categories and brand new categories coming from an ongoing desire to reflect the diversity, the dynamism, and the talent that exists in the South African music industry!

Of the 62 categories, TEN categories are not open for entry from October 29th to November 30th.

These are the Record of the Year, a pubic vote category that employs radio airplay as the mechanism for determining the nominees; Best Selling Album and the newly inaugurated Best Selling DVD and Best Selling Music Download of the Year which open for entry after the close of entries in all other categories owing to their extended qualifying dates, but use a different set of criteria that involve an audit as explained in the rules covering the categories; and Lifetime Achievement Award which is bestowed on recipients nominated by the RiSA Executive Committee.

Modern music business has seen the evolution of two powerful new drivers in the form of the Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) and the Music Download. The contributions that they make will be celebrated accordingly with their important new role at the 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards by introducing a vastly increased platform of recognition for DVD – the number of categories has increased at the 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards to SIX from previously only having had ONE category at the 13th Annual MTN SA Music Awards events; and the first time introduction of the awards for music download performance in Best Selling Music Download, a category that has three separate sub-categories namely: Best Selling Ring-Tune, Best Selling Full-Track and Best Selling Video.

The remaining five categories form part of the 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards ‘Top 5’ categories that came into being at the 13th Annual MTN SA Music Awards - Best Female Album, Best Male Album, Best Album by a Duo or Group, Best Newcomer Album and Album of the Year. 

For the Top 5, record companies cannot directly enter product into the Best Female Album, Best Male Album, Best Album by a Duo or Group and Best Newcomer Album categories. These four categories, with the important addition of Album of the Year, now form the SA Music Awards Top 5 group. To be eligible for entry into the Top 5 categories, the album would have to be nominated within its genre category. 

The Top 5 process enters its second year at the 14th Annual MTN SA Music Awards and judging by the prodigious support for last year’s outstanding nominees and winners, the indications are that the winners in each of the five categories truly are the among best South Africa has to offer.  The Top 5 judging system draws on the knowledge and expertise of the entire judging panel, and employs a rigorous series of judging procedures to ensure that the ultimate results for the Top 5 categories represent the music industry’s finest.
Following on the ever-increasing successes of previous years’ awards, an unprecedented number of entries are anticipated. To avoid the disappointment of missing the deadline, early entry is recommended.

The organizers and sponsors wish to extend their very best wishes to all entrants and their earnest gratitude to the judges in anticipation of their commitment.

So if you are a recording artist, a producer or an engineer with an album that fits the criteria for entry, then log on to from October 29th to November 30th 2007 and make sure you enter the 14th annual MTN SA Music Awards, South Africa’s most prestigious awards ceremony!

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Hip Hop Events / N.T.H.A.B.I Birthday
« on: November 04, 2007, 12:34:25 PM »

At first glance she seems like a quiet young woman, but give her a beat and she will blow you away with her rapping talent. The Times

What more can I say. Heppy birthday girl. Keep on with that hustle, keep making us proud.

we'll celebrate proper ka labohlano. can't wait to see you. In the meanwhile have a beautiful day.

Hot Traxxx / afurakan appreciation
« on: November 02, 2007, 12:45:48 PM »
We Is a beautiful concept

At the verge of insanity I stand
My head I have detached, displayed
And viewed from all possible angles
Yet still pose confused in the gallery of love
The art in we, still fresh with a fragrance of hands
Sculptures, with feeling
I have awarded your mastery
And hung portraits on the walls of memory
An exhibition the colour of peacocks
Fine strokes of pa**ion
A splash of nerve
A mahogany frame of trust
And not words in the prime of talent
Could paint the spectrum of we
And we, artists, sketch life unclothed
Stars are audience
Unperfected needles, we scribe

But, maybe for sanity’s sake
It’s time for this model to change his pose

We, is a beautiful concept
But, we can never work out

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