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Let me put it to you this way. Timbaland doesn't sound like RZA. Niether does RZA try to sound like Timbaland even though they both gravitate towards awkward sounds and quirky grooves. Despite Timbaland being the hottest producer, Dr. Dre won't make beats like him. Even though Dr. Dre is regarded as the best at his game, The Neptunes make their own shit. They're from the south like Mannie Fresh but sound completely different from each other. DJ Premier will never try to sound like 9th Wonder. Dilla, although inspired by Tribe Called Quest, won't make beats like them. Why are all these producers bent on sounding like themselves....simple, Trade mark. You see in industry we define ourselves by our brand which is identified by our logo. A producer's logo is his sound. eg. Premier has the chop and go sampling thing. Dr. Dre has his high wailing key sounds, Timbo has the stuttering drum. While they all may not use these techniques today is not the point. The point is, New York niggaz will never make a G-Funk track if they have their own shit going. South niggaz will stick to crunk so help them. Why? Because each of those sounds define a region, its people and their culture. eg. Bubblegoose, Timbalands baggy jeans, break loops = Eastcoast. Candy painted caddillacs, diamond grills, 808's = dirty South. Chuck Taylors, T-Shirts, Analogue synth ba** grooves = Westcoast. You see all these places have DISTICT features whether musical and in their imagery. Mzansi doesn't have that yet. Slapping a crunk drumloop over a Mbaqanga sample is not being original. Eastcoast niggaz have been slapping drumloops over obscure samples for years. Westcoast niggaz did it first with 808's...so please...Jozi is not original, experiemental, yes but not original. When I say original I mean like when Wu Tang Clan came out with their unique brand of grimy. It sounded like nothing before it. Even when Dr. Dre dropped the Chronic...it sounded like nothing before it. When A Tribe Called Quest dropped Bonitta Applebum...fresh. When Timbaland produced Aaliyah's "Are You That Somebody", original. It had no inspiration except the producers creative intuition to be different. South Africa as a sound is heavily dirivative and we rely heavily on our American contemporary's abillities and techniques. We need to be more confident in our street cultures and embrace them from there create a sound as distict as Boom Bap is to New York, crunk is to the South and G Funk is to the west. And not by putting a Leta Mbuli sample with a Stimela drum break. Its a start but its not the way. We need our own drum kits and patterns, our own instruments to define our sound and most of all our own vibe. Crunk doesn't sound even close to boom bap even though they're both hiphop...think about it
do you still believe in Hip Hop as a movement or is it just music and/or a way to get rich?
fact: Cape Town hip hop is marginalized and not conducive to being solicited by mainstream media.
fact: J-Sec is the opposite. it is safe and very marketable since it mostly falls into the suburban or quasi-kasi narrative of upward mobility ("hustling") whereas Cape Town, Spaza specifically, addresses spatial, political and settlement issues, since that's what is most immediate to the emcees. not the rise of the individual, but the reality of the townships and Cape Town's segregated geography - poverty.
fact: Cape Town is the only province which can convincingly connect with poorer provinces like the Eastern Cape in a holistic [via Pioneer Unit/Drie] and non-exploitative way, since there is a line of relation.
fact: Cape Town emcees (especially Spaza) need to be heard.
fact: we are being barred from the f***ing streets here by the DA and big business. there's no point in thinking about Hip Hop as solely enriching: it has to be trans-formative and curative, with a sense of community, if it's to be sincere. this is not just an indulgence or a refusal to "grow up" since "everything is about money", but pretty much one of the only ways to bring the youth together in a common purpose.
fact: Cape Town needs to take the center spot as the mouthpiece of what the hip hop community is really trying to achieve. J-Sec is murky and unclear, and mostly just bullshit advertisers.
i encourage people to join in on the discussion at any point.
It doesn't fit the media's agenda to promote anything that questions the status quo or takes kids' minds off which alcohol brand they should buy next. We can't (and shouldn't) expect much support from corporate organs.
nah not necessarily, it depends on how u package the info. the media will lap up just about anything, u just have to make them want it badly enough. if you look at the coverage given to jhb cats or even pop or rock, they not really sayin anything that we havent heard before, Cape Town is more exciting in that it offers "new" shit that no one has ever heard of (even though its been under our noses forever)
Let's remain MC's people. All this i'm a musician shit is what's wrong with music nowadays. We all try too much to be the next thing and are not even really creating anything unique.
Stick with the Basics. You shall Prosper.
2nd that...nuff probs for that.
we oughtta be mcees nd stick to that....yeah try what u wish but rememebr that u is an mcee, not cla**ifying ourselves by the country we come from.
this is universal!1
(on a side note, what's your sign image about Mr. C?)
That's Erykah Badu's Boootyyyyyy !!!! Mad Niggaz she done trapped with that beauty.
