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Politics / Communism Way Forward
« on: June 02, 2006, 03:48:55 PM »
i've used the terms 1st and 3rd world in as shallow a sense as they have always been used to portray the geopolitical world blocs which began to take form after the 2nd world war, where everyone accepts the 1st world as being the developed "western" capitalist democratic-industrial countries within the sphere of american influence... and the term 3rd world is a rough description of the deleloping african, latin-american and some asian countries (a good 3/4 of the world) which are characterised by their lack of influence over world issues and developments... and if you insist, the 2nd world refers to the former socialist-communist eastern bloc states...

a case in pt is that the 3rd world was used as a major bargaining tool during the cold war between the 1st and 2nd worlds and was ultimately won over by the 1st world capitalists...

admittedly the term 1st world has grown quite nebulous since the end of the cold war and since the advent of globilisation, but that's only relative to the 2nd world... the 3rd world still very much exists and honestly nastie, i don't see that the internet is going to bring it on par with yes the 1st world, let alone ultimately promote a more socialist outlook on the part of 3rd world inhabitants... if anything i see africans progressively becoming less and less about the next man vis. the demise of ubuntu

yes, my anger is directed at the man... and you can't convince me he doesn't exist... not in light of today's world factions... is africa any more significant geopolitically than it was yesterday? hardly...

"who doesn't have a tv these days?" Confused you can't be serious...

Politics / Ben Sharpa vid
« on: June 02, 2006, 03:06:57 PM »
Hacker on the frontline with Sibot   8)

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 02:44:23 PM »
Quote from: "childakapoet"

aaight i'm on it ho lokile ha re utloe he

Politics / Communism Way Forward
« on: June 02, 2006, 02:37:26 PM »
Quote from: "DJ_Nastie_Ed"
the 1st world and 3rd world are not seperate entities....a change in one will eventually change the other....albeit perhaps with considerable lag time

exactly... and that's just it!

you say

It is decentalized. It is a medium. Nothing else. No one controls it. The people who have access to it set the agenda. the moment those people are mostly in the 1st world.

surely you see the contradiction there

But on a one-to-one level most people are basically good. A single articulate person from the third world can change the opinion of many through mediation of personal perspectives

you're right you ARE idealistic cos the aforementioned time lag will always be (we'll never catch up) and as long as there exists this medium where information and ideologies can be disseminated in an unabated manner by (in your own admission) those who have access to it, they will always be setting the agenda and very much in control...

look at what television has managed to achieve in its paltry 30 yrs of existence in south africa... its been the very vehicle through which the agendas/propaganda/way of life of the most influential have been sold to us...

i'm not denying that there are merits to it and countless ways in which we stand to benefit by being brought closer to the rest of the world... i'm just saying that it is not likely to reverse the 1st world's dominance over africa... what the original post was calling for, was for azania to extricate itself from the vice grip and influence of the world superpowers... this will not be achieved through increased internet access.

And everyone is watching everyone. The most ideal truths and opinions will bubble to the surface and form common sense, because the best argument wins in dialogue. And with an unlimited amount of people adding their arguments - most arguments will be heard and mediated 'covering-all-angles' decisions can be made. This is because there are no agenda's... Sure somepeople will resist it....but new generations will BE it

it would be nice but i really don't see it going this way... i see us watching them and their truths and opinions fighting to form common sense

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 01:49:10 PM »
Quote from: "BHLAKHROZE"
you guys have jokes ne.

* hello kon *

hey there bhlakh which roze up outta the underground and soared...  :wink:

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 01:46:50 PM »
Quote from: "DJ_Nastie_Ed"
did u get the mail?

oh shit jus got it now thx

Politics / Communism Way Forward
« on: June 02, 2006, 01:42:18 PM »
Quote from: "DJ_Nastie_Ed"

The internet is an exciting 'technical advancement' as applied to Foucault's notions of of Knoweldge and Power. subject (individuals or organisation) learn to exert self-discipline when they perceive their own visibility which, Foucault argues, is the initial motivating factor for learning to discipline the self., and eventually begin changing to 'become' the new 'ideal' in line with the 'popular common sense', which is increasingly tending towards a more 'socialistic' contentmen for ALL people. Yes i'm an idealist. But its the way the 1st world seems to be heading.

yeah  :?  very very idealistic indeed... i'm hard pressed to see how the internet (the ultimate emissary of 1st world imperialism) could give birth to an increased socialist outlook in the 3rd world, bearing in mind that the topic pertains to africa's way forward

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 01:27:38 PM »

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 01:14:08 PM »

etsa u potlake he m'shana nke ke utloe...
u tsebe le tsane tla rona tsa lemong se fetileng tseo ho ka thoeng ke "the long awaited" li se ntse li atametse... u tla utloa fela se re re NKA!

motsoalle e mo oa ka oa letaoa o ntsa its'ore joang ka ng'eo?

Chief Rocka - Open Mic / konfab
« on: June 02, 2006, 12:54:31 PM »
ho hobe monna ke hatsetse ke chonne ke lapile ke qhangoe
ho hobe ka 'nete... oena?
esale re emetse album ea hao monna, e kae joale?

Politics / Communism Way Forward
« on: June 02, 2006, 11:12:02 AM »
all well and good to be socialist-minded as individuals but for entire nation to turn communist in this day and age impractical... can't co-exist with capitalism and in this the epoch of globilisation we too dependent on the west nett effect would be a bigger isolated zimbabwe...

the idea of sabotaging trade initiatives with the west is not at all realistic for a continent as indebted to the world's superpowers as appears on paper (of course we know in actuality we owed a whole lot more)... your ideas of "mobilzation, consciousness and righteouness of free will amongsts the people of the land" are noble but do not in themselves represent communism as it were... they represent exactly what you called it: "capitalising internally" -> which is a crucial element of capitalism if you consider the "spider web" economic principles of the most affluent nations, notably the east...

the concept of an african renaissance is aimed at realising the brilliant ideas that you bring up but it is widely acknowledged that the only way to uplift africa is to play the capitalist game the way the big players have always played it i.e. the very things you describe in your post

also... chinese investment in africa don't exemplify communism - quite the contrary expanding their empire perhaps even nurturing ma** of obsequious allies in their cold war with the west... let's not be naive by now we should know no outsiders take genuine selfless interest in uplifting africans the world's achilles heel...

communism is excellent as an ideal but it's been deprecated by the world we live in

General Discussion / Raw
« on: June 01, 2006, 02:05:52 PM »
Quote from: "blaqsouljah"
no reason to put a good erection to waste - i would beat him / it over the head with my rock hard 3 inches of cock. either until he / it pa**es out or my dick goes limp - whichever comes first.

 8O  :lol: hahaha cla**ic! that isht just made my day thx cat  :lol:  :cry:

General Discussion / AG on Alexa
« on: May 24, 2006, 03:12:04 PM »
:? from what angle bru?

General Discussion / AG on Alexa
« on: May 24, 2006, 02:53:45 PM »

General Discussion / INTELLECTUAL NANNY
« on: May 24, 2006, 02:32:31 PM »
yep... my pt exactly but u'd obviously have to be prepared to forego the rhodesian reward$... tho judging from the way you talking i suspect this won't be an issue   8)

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