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The Office / CREWS COMPETE
« on: October 23, 2006, 06:34:35 PM »
Yeah well, same here. But some of us try to exercise restraint in the name of constructive conversation and not coming off like a anal-clenched prejudiced hater.

To sum up what u have been saying:

yack yack yadda blah ETC is WACK....blah blah blah... WACK...yadda ETC...i hate em i hate em i hate em... yadda yadda blah wack...yadda i hate em...ETC...white ppl die ... yack blah yadda... ... blah... WACk...ETC yadda yadda.

Yes, I am aware that u dont understand what my argument is based on. Clearly. I suggest u try reading it.

Endzi, i dont give a f*** what u think u need. I'm telling you....you need to get laid.

(ooops....oh please please please let this be the last word.... dont you love having the last word in an argument.... I KNOW. i'll just delete all the other posts/disses that are bound to come back at me. --- nah, I wouldnt do that.... i think)

I was having too much fun.


Last thing:

Little summary of my agument for endzi:

"There is no conspiracy. There is no rigging. ETC had what the judges were looking for....simple as that. They understood the system and played their cards right. Thats it"

NOW f*** thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisssssss. Imma get hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

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The Office / CREWS COMPETE
« on: October 23, 2006, 03:19:50 PM »
Okay...this shit is getting out of hand. Endzi. Take a rest. The name calling bullshit started. This aint f***ing primary school...

I have no personal involvement. I am more closely a**ociated with Writers Block and Archetypes, n Driemanskap than ETC.

I came here to state my opinion, according to the discussions i've had with ppl at the event.

Endzi. You seemed like a nice savvy person when i met you. But the arguments and 'FACTS' that u give have got more holes than the official 911 story. And THEN you had to go down that other road and turn yo bitching personal. what the f***?

Thats it. I'm out. I've said what i wanted to say.

Note...all i said were the facts as i saw them. No word of mouth. No agenda (I dont give a f***...and i would rather have seen Writers Block or Archetypes go up to Denmark).

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The Office / CREWS COMPETE
« on: October 23, 2006, 02:18:56 PM »
Quote from: "ENDZI"

NEWSFLASH...I was hosting that f***ing event and well, after the 6th performance, 'the judges' told my co-host that they already knew who the winners were and ...bear in mind that there were 10 crews competing that night so how could the judges know the results before 4 other crews performed...ETC didn't win because they had a dope perfomance, they 'won' because the results were pre-determined and because of their affiliations with the so called judges. PERIOD...


Very interesting.

Maybe your cohost was right. But if thats the case it is his word against 5 other ppl that i'ver spoken to who were linked with the organization of the event. So basically. your entire argument is constructed around something that your cohost told you at "whatever" AM after a bottle of beer and intoxicated with extreme antagonism towards an alien 'outsider' crew. FACT is....most of the peeps at the gig were foreseeably ANTI-ETC.
Conspiracies are bound to be spun. Because otherwise crews might actually have to face up to the fact that their show was not as 'tight'. And that would mean swallowing your pride and working harder. Heavens, we couldnt have ppl believe that could we. No, we'd rather make excuses and continue on our merry way thinking that the sun shines out of our a** and someone is bound to see it one day........one day..... eventually.... but until then......we wait...... and bitch.

Some minister once told me that lemons beetroot and showers cure AIDS. I still dont believe it.






 
Quote from: "ENDZI"

dude, first of all let us not stray from what this is really about...

this is about results being rigged...not about whether Cape Town heads are lazy or blaming white people or whatever.


I dont agree wth you at all. It should be about something totally different. Its a shame that bitching and spinning conspiracy theories is more important than improving the scene. A damn shame.

And so we are stuck in the same spot keep the scene wrapped up in an elitist subculture bound to wither until even the most-die-hard headz start to get bored of the same old shit. Great.



f*** it...i'm gonna go make electro house. :lol:

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The Office / CREWS COMPETE
« on: October 20, 2006, 02:59:16 PM »
Quote from: "ENDZI"
Quote from: "whitenite"
:D


u have a f***in nerve deciding to join the site for that sh...

actually, i'm glad u decided to join AG just to..what...front??? now u know what the people think of ya'll out here...no credibitlity attached to yo ETC name.

Uno wrote:

Quote
EYO FELLAZ CHECK THIS OUT, word is those cats were tryin 2 document themselves with their cameraman present there as well (if u guys took note), & tryin 2 create a sum visuals that will make people buy their story- that maybe they're the dopest crew in CT. (I won't reveal my sources but i'd like to say 2 my mans DJ Whitenite, George and the rest of crew that we ain't hatin, u guys did what you were doin but we don't think its fair that way.. go well tho on your trip).


and oh mr whiteshite,

did u see the reaction on people's faces when ya'll name was announced? no one cheered, everyone became enraged and dissapointed,u know why?coz everybody knew ya'll didn't deserve that shyt.

& let's not forget that there were more hip hop hedz out that nite in that one space than i have seen in a minute...these are people who would know what a hip hop crew is and if the crowd were judging u know ya'll wouldn't even be on the guess list.

so go on and flaunt yo little bullshit glory for the misled Danish crowds, but remember on the streets YOU'LL NEVER GET RESPECT... :evil:  :evil:

TSEK!





One reason why Cape Town hip-hop is not reaching the next level - nor ever will, if it continues on this trend.

If shit does not go your way there are 2 things you can do:

1. Bitch and moan, blaming the weather, the man, bad sound, white people, and everyone else BUT yourself. This is a dead-end. You can bitch as much as you want about circumstances... but next time around they still gonna be there. You got no power to change or improve or make a difference if blame is always directed at the outside and at others.

2. Look at reasons WHY you didnt win, and what YOU can do better next time.


Cape Town headz are lazy. Heads figure they deserve dues respect and deserve to win simply because they have been around for a long time and have street cred.


I was not at the event, but here is my understanding of the outcome.

The CPT scene is MC driven and MC centred. Ppl stepped up at the comp expecting to win on the merit of their syllables. Its what gets you respect here. Headz dont seem to care too much about being organized, stage presence, beats etc - basically EVERYTHING that is needed to put on a good show. In other words... most performances are pretty one-dimensional. You can be the illest lyricist...but if all u got is raw lyrics without the surrounding shit to put on a good show... you are lacking heavily.

The judges came from Denmark, so basically they were measuring and judging the event according to their criteria. The scene up in denmark and europe tends to be quite different. You dont have the whole afro-centric storytelling aspect. What ppl expect up there primarily is a good show, and by good show i mean, having a DJ, being tightly organized, stage presence. etc.

Honestly... alot of heads...especially up in europe where its more about the beats (not to mention that many ppl wont understand english and mzanzi references/slang etc), dont give a f*** about lyrics.

We all acknowledge that ETC are not the tightest MCs, and by that measuring stick alot of Cape Town heads think that they did not deserve to win, because they a**ume that their criteria for what is tight/ill are universal (their understanding of criteria being lyrical prowess, flow, meaning, message, syllable practice etc).

BUT ETC has stage presence, a DJ and the performance flows. Whereas alot of crews will step with a raggedy a** scratched up CD, all grimey and disorganized and shit, clutching a quartz talking shit about (insert whatever here) between each track and shouting instruction into the mic to whoever happens to be standing in front of the CDjs after each song.  

ETC's show is organized... premixed. The tracks flow seamlessly into each other, building momentum and energy etc. THAT is what MOST people expect from a show. Its supposed to be f***ing entertainment and a party...not a lecture.

NOW... image all other crews did this. Its f***ing EASY to do chaps. get off your lazy a**. Put some structure into your set. ORGANIZE. Be creative... learn from the big US acts..  THATS how you put on a good show. If any of the other crews had put the amount of work that ETC put into their show to complement their MC skills....they would have won.

Fact is they didnt...and THATS why those crews didnt win.

So please STOP f***ing whining and whincing like a bunch of pussies, and ask yourself how you can IMPROVE and LEARN from this 'f*** UP'. Step up your game and you will start to bring in more casual hip-hop fans and eventually make some money.

ETC is coming in from a different angle. They might not be as strong as other crews in terms of skills, but they are teaching us all a good lesson. They are multi-dimensional and offer the crowd more than words.

So what u gonna do now. 1, keep hating bitch and moan and repeat the same mistakes next time around, or 2. f***ing DO something and STOP whining.






2.

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Media / Digital Downloads in SA
« on: October 19, 2006, 05:35:22 PM »
a**uredly: no  :?

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Media / Digital Downloads in SA
« on: October 19, 2006, 05:00:06 PM »
Well, its a guy who works for apple, but he's also running his side project - the one we trying to implement here for africa - which, as mentioned is an alternative distribtuion/marketing model for unsigned artists/

But yes, the selling would be via itunes.

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Media / Digital Downloads in SA
« on: October 19, 2006, 04:44:46 PM »
Syntactic and me are in talks with some peeps to try to bring this shit down to SA.

Don't wanna post too much here in case shit dont materialize, but we put together a phata** proposal.

It would be an independent site for artists without record labels, taking 15% per song for marketing n services etc.

If i remember the stats...artists would be making about R5 per song download, (vs R1 per song on a CD that is the current going rate with the majors)

38
Producers - Discussion / Dj Premier 6th sense remake
« on: October 18, 2006, 03:25:50 PM »
k..its fixed now.

Yeah. bad sound on the kick...i sampled the kick n snare str8 from the original so i got some other sounds with it. My focus was on the reproduction of the idea.

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Producers - Discussion / Dj Premier 6th sense remake
« on: October 18, 2006, 01:51:30 PM »
Common's - 6th sense is my favourite Primo beat.

Finally a bird (Maddstone) told me who the original sample was, so I ventured to remake the track just to see how primo constructed it.

Think it came out pretty close;) .... lacking some ba** hits.

Made this on my Roland Sp 606

-the original sample is played first. Then i cut up the relevat sections and i play them once in the file i posted.
- I sampled the kick and the snare ONLY from the original track.

Great way to learn...reconstructing beats teaches u alot about the producers thought-process.



Also..
If you wanna learn about music theory and other practical tips
http://www.berkleeshares.com

40
Media / hip hop is dead Tracks review
« on: October 13, 2006, 05:24:57 PM »
8. "White Man's Paper (War)" featuring Damien Marley, produced by "some new African dude" (that's all we were told)


Very interesting......who?

41
Geek Section / WHAT U THINK?
« on: October 12, 2006, 03:50:48 AM »
where's the alcohol?

42
General Discussion / Intelligent PC
« on: October 11, 2006, 04:05:41 PM »
Me:
 hey man
God:
You've got my full attention.  Thanks for telling me your gender, . You are a " he".
Me:
 what?
God:
Didn't you understand it?
Me:
 no...you're not making any sense, how do you deduct from the above statement that i am a he?
God:
Which part are you confused about?   Thanks for the information:  said I re not making any sense how do you deduct from the above statement that he or she is a he.
Me:
 goh my god, you're an idiot
God:
I think there might be a few exception.
Me:
 'nuff said
God:
What's your sign?

43
General Discussion / Which movie is this???
« on: October 10, 2006, 12:27:17 PM »
Looks like the insider.

i think thats what it was called. Story about tobacco companies getting sued etc....

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Media / Why are cape town hiphop acts not blowing nationally?
« on: October 09, 2006, 08:21:17 PM »
Cape Town has ALOT of awesome MC's. BUT here's my perspective on this.

The Scene is MC/lyric driven and MC's dont understand (or dont bother to care) about stage performance... organization ... musicality and keeping momentum.

A few punchlines are not enough to get ppl who are not THAT into hiphop excited... the lyrics and flow are your core and will make u great. But without proper beats...and stage presence...most ppl dont care to listen.

DONT give shout outs to your fam when ure on stage. DONT talk shit between every track....and for jahg sake...DONT stop the music!

IMHO:

MC's need to shorten their verses.... work on their hooks...flow...stage presence and having fun on stage. AND most importantly... their set needs to be organized. 5 tracks that seamlessly flow into each other...without breaks.

Silence between tracks breaks the momentum in a club. Every DJ will tell u thats the worst u can do. U kill the vibe

Theres nothing worse than seeing a dude on stage telling the man by the CD player to play the other track...

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General Discussion / Is Mandela A Commie?
« on: October 03, 2006, 08:45:30 PM »
Irronically, Communism is the ULIMATE system for capitalists.

it allows those who already conrol most of the worlds resources to control ALL of the world resources.

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