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General Discussion / Dumbest S#it you read on AG
« on: February 16, 2007, 05:30:35 PM »Quote from: "Deacon Frost"
I'm really starting to belive ag should have an IQ test before people can join the site
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General Discussion / Hip-Hop and the Crack Dealer Paradigm
« on: February 14, 2007, 04:16:05 PM »Quote from: "DRAMA BOY"
Quote from: "MaraD"quite an observation and very well articulated.......
like one not so common individual said "one day it will all make sense..."
and things like
Quote from: "Lil' DRAMA BOY"YO'LL R f***EN DEEP NO-WONDER YO'LL R INTO UNDERGROUND SHIT... VEXER DONT GET ME WRONG NIGGA I FEEL YO OBSERVATION BUT I f***EN THINK U JUST WASTING VALUABLE ENERGY... CANT U PUT THE SAME ENERGY INTO SA HIP HOP... U WRITE A SHIT LOAD ON THE ROOTS & OTHER c***S BUT U CUD TRY & IMPROVE PEOPLES VIEWS BOUT OUR HIP HOP ...STOP WASTING ENERGY NIGGA
WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE U TO OBSERVE SA HIP HOP, MAKE SHIT HAPPEN IN SA... U R USING YO BRAINS BUT U NEED TO POINT YO ARROW @ WHT IS IMPORTANT...
make this man go...wow just... wow
YO MARAD SORRY DAWG... I DO APOLOGISE FOR f***ING UP YO MOOD.. BUT QUITE FRANKLY THIS SHIT DEPRESSES THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF ME....TOO MUCH ENERGY IS WASTED ON OVERSEAS HIP HOP... ALL I AM SAYING IS VEXER SHUD DO THE SAME THING HIS DOING BUT DO IT FOR SA HIP HOP...
VEXER CUD HAV HIS OWN MAG BOUT THIS CULTURE( I AINT HATING THOSE R PROPS.. THIS MAN KNOWS WHT THE f*** HIS TALKING BOUT)
ANYWAY MARAD I AINT GOING ANYWHERE YET.....
overstand this, my statement is "and things like (insert bullshit here) make Mara'D go WOW just... WOW"
why does Vexer have to explicitly make reference to SA HipHop for Lil' DRAMA BOY to overstand the relevance to the South African HipHop scene? that is what grinds Mara'D's balls...
Mara'D does not own AG thus how can he ask for Lil' DRAMA BOY to go?
comprehension is of the utmost importance,
similarly emotions in a discourse are like a recipe for impotence...
Mara'D will not engage in a further dialogue or rather monologue as this seems to be that case...
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General Discussion / Hip-Hop and the Crack Dealer Paradigm
« on: February 14, 2007, 01:32:50 PM »
quite an observation and very well articulated...
like one not so common individual said "one day it will all make sense..."
and things like
make this man go...wow just... wow
like one not so common individual said "one day it will all make sense..."
and things like
Quote from: "Lil' DRAMA BOY"
YO'LL R f***EN DEEP NO-WONDER YO'LL R INTO UNDERGROUND SHIT... VEXER DONT GET ME WRONG NIGGA I FEEL YO OBSERVATION BUT I f***EN THINK U JUST WASTING VALUABLE ENERGY... CANT U PUT THE SAME ENERGY INTO SA HIP HOP... U WRITE A SHIT LOAD ON THE ROOTS & OTHER c***S BUT U CUD TRY & IMPROVE PEOPLES VIEWS BOUT OUR HIP HOP ...STOP WASTING ENERGY NIGGA
WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE U TO OBSERVE SA HIP HOP, MAKE SHIT HAPPEN IN SA... U R USING YO BRAINS BUT U NEED TO POINT YO ARROW @ WHT IS IMPORTANT...
make this man go...wow just... wow
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General Discussion / DJ Honda with Mos Def
« on: February 14, 2007, 09:34:17 AM »
like damn... 8O 8O
that Nyambo thread reminded me to look at when I came on AG
<---- round about here
it's been 4, Four, Vier year/jaare, Mine iminyaka ngila...
I think I should move on too :cry: it's not the same, rather AG hasn't grown up
"memories don't live/leave like people do...
they always remember you...
whether things are good or bad..." Mighty Mos
that Nyambo thread reminded me to look at when I came on AG
<---- round about here
it's been 4, Four, Vier year/jaare, Mine iminyaka ngila...
I think I should move on too :cry: it's not the same, rather AG hasn't grown up
"memories don't live/leave like people do...
they always remember you...
whether things are good or bad..." Mighty Mos
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General Discussion / Re: Africasgateway Hate
« on: February 14, 2007, 09:25:15 AM »Quote from: "nyambz"
I'll admit my interest in the content on the site has dwindled over the last 18 to 24 months but thats only because i'm an OG and i miss a lot of the people who used to post on here circa 2003/2004.
Quote from: "TNG"
The briCK monologue threads have brought me back though..Dude is an entertaining writer.
Quote from: "ThreadStalker"
I swear if i owned a magazine brick would have his own column in it.
one word AMEN
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Media / THE MONOPOLY - MORE CRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: February 12, 2007, 06:27:54 PM »
finally had a listen and...
Quote from: "Xhosa"
If I don't like a nigga I make sure he knows
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Traders / Poor Levels of Entrepreneurship in S.A
« on: February 12, 2007, 06:02:03 PM »
ain't no love for seriousness on AG
where's the article from, Rip?
no truer words have been spoken
where's the article from, Rip?
Quote
‘‘We cannot throw everything into a hat like a magician. We have a lot of stuff going on in South Africa but it is very ad hoc,’’ Maas said.
no truer words have been spoken
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General Discussion / Brick is that you?
« on: February 09, 2007, 01:32:19 PM »
I just came from Menlyn Park and if you are in PTA you'll know that it's 33 Degrees Celcius outside, 91 point f***en 4 Degrees Ferenheit of heat. As I'm driving back I see this cat/dawg/dude/nigga wearing a hoodie and as if that's not enough nigga has his head covered... I mean damn...
I'm inclined to think it was our very own, Brick
I'm inclined to think it was our very own, Brick
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General Discussion / SA hip hop vs Hip hop made in SA
« on: February 08, 2007, 04:45:02 PM »Quote from: "Vexer"
Cash, if that's how it is for you cool.But all I ask u to consider is a couple of things.
Firstly, who defined "balling" for you?In-fact who even brought that word into your vocabulary and frame of reference?
Also who taught u to a**ociate the word with sipping moet, foreign "hos" etc?
Its not about u staying broke or acting like u're broke but its also a question of how u perceive the notion of success. Your perception of the notion of success seems influenced by rap lyrics.
Its different for instance from what the middle or capitalist cla**' perception of what success is.
Who taught u to interpret success in that way, and also to celebrate and articulate it in that manner?
Do u think that's a universal notion of success that u hold or rather it reflects the views of the black american undercla**?
Is that view of success appropriate in the African context?Does it do anything to advance our hustling in our own individual context as Africans?
For instance why aren't you talking about BEE schemes, stocks, shares, mutual funds and bonds?Isn't this what we really need to learn about in order to be successful?
Your frame of reference seems to have been limited by rap lyrics and u don't really pause to consider how the objects of your frame of reference i.e. moet and "hos" are relevant in our context and what purpose they actually achieve.
That's how deeply embedded in your consciousness the black american undercla** frame of reference has become. To the extent that it comes out from deep within you as a mental reflex.
Just pause to consider this if u will.I think a lot of headz r still in that very same headspace.
About going international, I don't think going international depends on how well u can soak ur music with an American/Foreign frame of reference.
For instance, Oliver Mtukudzi, Baba Maal, Yousou Ndoor (excuse my spelling), Salif Keita, Franco Luambo to name just a few made it big internationally by sticking to their own frame of reference.
Artists like Bob Marley, Fela Kuti, Harry Belafonte, Miriam Makeba, Lucky Dube etc who communicated in English were still succesful bcoz they used the English language to depict their unique frame of reference.
They didn't portray anything else other than their situations as individuals and as a people. They didn't adopt a foreign frame of reference in order to garner success.
So I believe u can make it internationally even if u flow in English but ultimately ur stories must depict where u're from in the unique vernacular of the English language that exists in ur own area e.g. the Nigerian slang used by Fela or the Jamaican slang used by Bob Marley.
I honestly think if u try and come across like an NY cat to real NY catz u'll come across as a joke. At the end of the day we don't really understand the nuances of their culture just like they don't understand ours.
Listening to Hip-Hop CDs doesn't really allow u to live vicariously thru the situations the rappers r talking about. U can learn how its like for them over there, but U can never fully understand how it is bcoz u really don't walk in their shoes.
The whole world wants to know how its like to walk in ur shoes and we want to hear u say it in ur own unique way.This is what I believe makes a great artist.
Pac used to weep in ebonics and Biggie used to be ruthless & unflinching in the same vernac.That's what made them so dope.
When its all said and done, I wish u luck in ur career, and I don't want to come across as a prophet of doom bcoz at the end of the day we're dealing with art which is subjective.
Vexer "STOP IT NOW..." you are making too much sense you might hurt someone...
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Media / Selwyn interview
« on: January 25, 2007, 02:46:10 PM »Quote from: "Gifted Much"
Empty tin makes a lot of noise (Cash, Zoolooo1) :evil: :evil:
like 1 preacher man said AMEN...
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Quote from: "cash"
cos jus being a dope rapper wont get you to a point in life where you are content and financially free.
look at any successful people. they always strive for more! why should we accept that when it comes to rappers its ok to just wana rap for a few props then get forgotten when the new guy steps in!
just a point of view!
do you think Black Thought is not content?
what about Scarface?
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Media / Selwyn interview
« on: January 25, 2007, 01:23:47 PM »Quote from: zoolooo1
i respect ur hustle no doubt, get ur recognition and respect but its all in vain if u never reach ur goals....and i know u dream of makin it big, but u know what? this is as big as ul ever get....u probably one of those thats been in(and i mean IN) the music scene for a while now and u know a couple of people that respect ur hustle but that dont mean they like ur isshh. I respect a lot of niggas hustles but i dont necessarily like their issh....and thats the case with LANDMINES PRODUCTIONS...u will always remain an underdog.. and u know it!!! punk a** niggas
u got a lot to learn young man...
to paraphrase a wise man...
"...it takes a long time and hard work to be an over night success..."
and you better say it correctly it's LANDMYNZ ENTERTAINMENT
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Quote from: zoolooo1
adding, "maybe that's the reason people sometimes think I'm arrogant."
Tuks please, arrogant...me i aint trying to sugarcoat nothing, Tuks is not even half the man he claims to be. He aint got it, ive seen him on so many interviews and tried listening to his record but he has nothing
to offer that i would want to hear, why? he aint my type of hustler, his just a rapper with skill but no character, no sense of real direction in terms of owning the number one spot one day and being one of the best perfomers or entertainers that ever lived. I dont see the hunger or the swagger in him, people gotta understand that just being a dope rapper is not enuf...be an entertainer of sought and u gotta shine brighter than any star that ever shined b4 u!!!
ever considered that maybe, just maybe all he wants is just to be a dope rapper?