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that's a question a boy from EL asked me when i told him i was shooting a doccie on INTONJANE...
That Jomo asked me what INTONJANE is, is fine- but to a**ume that it could mean a name of a bird is questionable...I don't think i would drive down to the EC from CT to shoot a doccie about a bird. Don't get me wrong birds are lovely creatures.

I'm glad that young South Africans (esp blck ones) are asking questions...i guess this is how our history will eventually be re-written- from asking damning questions...but they must just ask the right ones...

Tuesday night i watched one of the ZABALAZA doccies on SABC 1, it made for interesting viewing...very rich and relevant content- that dope( well of course it was mainly talking heads... ;))- the subject was Language...a thorny subject these days...the makers of these doccies must have asked the right questions for they got very good responses...bad part about it is how i checked that our culture as indigenous people of SA is getting so emaciated to the point that in a decade it might just be dead- (NOT IF YOU CAN HELP IT THO)
Word is according to a linguist there : 'when you forget your language, you forget your culture...and when you forget your culture... you perish...but the question i want to ask then: what do we do with those who can't speak a stitch of their mother tounges????
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honest mistake. maybe he mistook it for Inkonjane...which IS a name of a bird...in Zulu that is, not sure about Xhosa


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No the brother had no idea...i don't even think he knows wat inkonjane is...
yes we also refer to that bird as inkonjane as well...
when people are free to do as they please, they usually imitate each other.


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dont mean to sound all stero or anything but i think its embarrasing when one cant speak their matha tongue and pretends its all gud, even worse when people start pretending like they dont understand their matha tongue thinking that its 'pretty' ...........really now :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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okay...i don't mean to come and deviate from original thread...i know nigga personally...and hey...what if he doesn't know what intonjane is....its not everyday we get to talk or hear about such...in all respects Miss Element i know were you're coming from and actually a doccie about a bird ain't half bad...on some eco friendly tip...50/50 maybe...anyway you already know were i stand with Intonjane... plently good looks

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I made a speech at high school about "Language as a VehIcle for Culture",I'm glad it is still an on going debate because back then my cla**mates gave me the look of "what are you going on about?? ??? ???"

I strongly believe that without language  we wouldn't know where we come from.Weeks ago I asked a friend which country in Africa is more rooted than the rest,she said South Africa because we still have our mother tounges as part of our national languages whereas in other parts of Africa they only know slave languages (french,portugues ect)

Secondly there are words from our culture which when you hear will not have the same impact in English(slave language) as they are intended to in Xhosa,Zulu etc.Word like ingcibi,ebomeni etc.

Lastly a place is made by the people who live there,their way of life and the way they communicate so for us to make visitors from abroad feel the spirit of Africa we have to be who we are because ones we speak in English that person would be confused where he is(England or MZANTSI)
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English slave language? eloborate...i don't understand
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English slave language? eloborate...i don't understand


Will conolial language make it better swidy?
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ur response kinda tastes like u sprinkled it with a pinch of sarcasm...wow...welcome to ag...u've officially made the cut...yada yada...all trying to act smart and tuff empty imbicile.

Your answer still doesn't make sense...its just making it worse...u'r sounding like that stupid Faraday dude on that Anc Youth league thread...
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ur response kinda tastes like u sprinkled it with a pinch of sarcasm...wow...welcome to ag...u've officially made the cut...yada yada...all trying to act smart and tuff empty imbicile.

Your answer still doesn't make sense...its just making it worse...u'r sounding like that stupid Faraday dude on that Anc Youth league thread...

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@ candy doll english is and has always been the 'universal language' and that we cant change but tis good for one to speak THEIR language and not make it out as though it is second best or stayt up backward to use it
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Check ur pm VirginPussy
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y do yall love derailing so much? back to the topic plz tired of hater posts, its really boring >:(
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y do yall love derailing so much? back to the topic plz tired of hater posts, its really boring >:(


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y do yall love derailing so much? back to the topic plz tired of hater posts, its really boring >:(


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mind is what im made of
where my spoken word is formed
lie not for this here is what mind is

the re-birth of me....the potrait of life