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White South African accuses Rattex of not being 'African' enough.

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Check out this interesting debate as a white South African accuses Rattex of not being 'African' enough, undermining his culture and poisoning the minds of his people.

http://nicharalambous.com/2009/01/14/this-is-what-is-wrong-with-our-music-culture-rattex-is-poison/
 
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Total tosser. White or not the c*nt clearly has no idea what he is talking about. Unless his Xhosa is seamless and he is actually capable of discerning what Rattex is about. Would it be out of hand for another WSA (sort of) to write a lambasting response or is he dumb enough to have strung himself up with his own rope already?

What a tosser, seriously. All that shit about bling and what have you. Rattex is a politically minded motherf***er who speaks on some serious shit, from lumka, all that shit about devils in suits forgetting cats at home, showing love to his goddamn background. This is why I should ignore shit like this. D don't respond though, somebody is bound too. The trouble with the internet is swill like that, unmitigated, uncensored stupidity. f***in offensive actually.

Remember I used to say that shit- Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you to their level and beat you with experience. (Anon) . Case in point.


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What the f*** is being american about style?? what i dont get is why the sense of fashion / style critique is always placed on black people, or rather african hiphop heads?

when a white south african kid wears surfer clothing or has that kinda style, he is not trying to be australian is he? why cant it be that this sense of fashion can be appealing beyond rap / nation / colour. But when a white kid wears hiphop clothing he is trying to be black - NOT AMERICAN but BLACK! WTF IS THIS KAK??

THIS DUDE CAN EAT A DICK FOR ALL I CARE.

Rattex is reppin who he is, how he was cultured (which is not limited to the spaza lifestyle) and is proud to be where he is from... more power to u bra!


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Wow... How I wish ignorance was a terminal illness so some people could actually just perish.


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much as he's speaking out of his ring piece..
the subject line of this topic is wholly inappropriate..
perhaps intended to spur us into action- but misguided nonetheless..
i say this as no one ever refers to u as "the white englishman" when u vent ur spleen about the american accents adopted by some of our local acts.. 
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damn... i got too emotional to comment, what a bunch a bullshit. dude first need to understand the culture of hiphop and the language. What part of our clothing isnt westernised, (even what the BLOGGER is wearing), what a useless point of reference. listen the music idiot!!!!!


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quick someone ask him why the parlotones sound and look like your average rock band in the states
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oh shit when i first read the headline i was like"some bra has a problem with a thing that kills rats?...and its not black enuff?"...lol...i have to agree that this fool doesnt know shit about shit and aint black enuff himself...c***! hip hop just like rasta is a movement/culture/way of life/ and we ambrace it course there is an atraction...rastas speak like "dem liyaan burn babylone"...we be like "yo sup son/homy wat it is" ...what ever hip hop means to the person embracing it...shit peeps are all smoking tik..rattex props...
« Last Edit: January 15, 2009, 03:03:33 PM by money »
people be juding me by the way that i walk even when i talk they say i got swagger like i be from new york..#print that bitches!


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As much as im on your side on this one D, I feel the dude wasnt being racist. You've supported your reasoning your saying what you said and it's makes a lot of sense and understandable and yes, the context in which the word homie was used is rather insulting but i dont think dude what being racist. He just doesnt know enough about the culture he was commenting on and hence made the reckless comments.

With that said, I also feel the responses directed to the blogger in gereral are rather too harsh because he has stated his reasons and responded humbly to a lot of the comments and admitted where he thought his views might have been out of ignorance(though he did not use this word).

Im not sure what to say about the title of the thread though even though i actually want to comment on it.


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the topic title choice begs for ridicule though.  :D
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somem white people seem to know to much about africanism.

rattex must promote hunger in his videos.

he must do some smash and grabs and probably a lot of white african will love him

'ohh smash and grab did you see that? he's absolutely south african from a township.'

why dont they fu***n wear animal skins and eat potjie kos in msanzi rock videos?


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the topic title choice begs for ridicule though.  :D

funny but rather inapproriate, he should have went for, "White South African accuses Rattex of being poison".


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much as he's speaking out of his ring piece..
the subject line of this topic is wholly inappropriate..
perhaps intended to spur us into action- but misguided nonetheless..
i say this as no one ever refers to u as "the white englishman" when u vent ur spleen about the american accents adopted by some of our local acts.. 


True that. I am also wondering if we would be having this discussion had the artist not been signed to Dplanet's label.

The blogger is merely stating his opinion on the video, that is what bloggers do. He may not know about hip hop culture as much as the rest of the people on this site. But then again, some of you have blogs and if you like the video so much, maybe you can write a "more balanced" review of it yourself instead of attacking ignorant Nic for expressing his opinion
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I know Nic. He and I worked on a paper together where he was a senior editor.

He's an excellent journalist - very opinionated but always open to a debate. I may not agree with him but you can certainly respect his point of view.

I see D had been engaging in a pretty heavy debate with him. Rock and roll. I stuck my two cents up on there too.

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