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Purged SACP members poised to launch splinter leftist party

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Purged SACP members poised to launch splinter leftist party
 
 
Sibusiso Ngalwa, Saturday Star, Johannesburg, 21 November 2009
 
A group of leftists - including influential former officials purged after they clashed with SACP general secretary Blade Nzimande - are planning to launch a breakaway party.
 
In a similar fashion to the way that the founders of the Cope served "divorce papers" on the ANC to form that party, the brains behind the planned venture say the governing party's promise of a better life has not materialised.
 
Under the banner of the Conference of the Democratic Left, the grouping comprises former Young Communist League leader Mazibuko Jara, community leader Trevor Ngwane and former SACP Gauteng secretary Vishwas Satgar.
 
But Jara yesterday denied wanting to launch a new party, although he did not rule it out.
 
"There is no such plan ... for now people are talking of a united front. Whether a political party emerges out of this, no one knows. It will take time, debate and convincing each other," he said.
 
The SACP, which described the group as those who lost debates internally, said the party has "always anticipated that this tiny minority will cause this drama".
 
"For years we have tolerated their disruptive behaviour and ill-discipline... If these characters... wish to leave, we advise them not to use the name of the SACP to achieve their narrow objectives," SACP spokesman Malesela Maleka said.
 
"Their planned 'Cope tactics' won't work on us; the sooner they and those who support them leave the SACP, the better. We will not be plunged into a crisis, it's good riddance," he said.
 
The ANC's Ishmael Mnisi said the governing party would not comment before a detailed briefing about the grouping.
 
The Saturday Star is in possession of a document distributed by the organisers, calling on interested parties to attend the conference, scheduled for March 20-22.
 
It is understood the conference would be a springboard for the establishment of a splinter party, contesting the SACP's socialist, leftist terrain.
 
But Jara is adamant theirs would not be an anti-ANC/ tripartite alliance initiative and ruled out co-operation with Cope. "Cope is a disaster, this is where I agree with the SACP; it's a right-wing spinoff from the ANC. Ours is about an anti-capitalist critique, and Cope is not about that.
 
"We are not going to go on a sectarian attack on the ANC... Yes, we are critical of the ANC and its approach and capitalist policies. (But) we are not going to impose ourselves unrealistically as if we are going to vanquish and replace the ANC," said Jara.
 
The document calls for a unity of purpose to deal with capitalism because "the promise of a better life for all (the ANC's slogan) has not been realised".
 
"As long as the ANC government refuses to confront capital and redistribute wealth, poor communities will continue to be downtrodden".
 
To get the ball rolling, a "convening committee" will be visiting communities, factories and farms to build momentum towards the conference.
 
"We need a people's conference, solidarity and a united front. What is envisaged is a process of bottom-up deliberation, debate in which voices from below shape outcomes and collective action. The organising of the conference is about creating local, provincial and a national (forum)," said the document.
 
"This is a conscious political initiative informed by a recognition that we all fought for the liberation of South Africa. The conference is an affirmation of democratic pluralism and is a process which seeks to elaborate political objectives, practices, alternatives and new ways of engaging in Left politics."
 
The group has been operating behind the scenes since after the 2007 SACP conference when those opposed to Nzimande were left out or were forced out of the party.
 
From: http://www.thestar.co.za/index.php?fArticleId=5254655

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so i take it no one is interested in debating merits of a left orientated party that is not part of the tripartite alliance.


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so i take it no one is interested in debating merits of a left orientated party that is not part of the tripartite alliance.

why are you interested in this? do you really think something will come of it?

personally, i feel like it's hopeless. that there is no going back from late capitalism.

maybe in 2009/2010/2___ it is up to the individual to use extreme measures to ascend into society and then work within the system, live well and sustain themselves and their loved ones. i really feel politics will not help this country's poor. not for the next 100 years, anyway, and even then i doubt it won't, conversely, be enriching the politicians and other people with more fortunate narratives.
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so i take it no one is interested in debating merits of a left orientated party that is not part of the tripartite alliance.

why are you interested in this? do you really think something will come of it?


besides the obvious one of having a new player in SA politics,i think if they do things right and create a space where social movements like Anti privatisation forum, TAC etc are able to debate issues that affect the poor they will make serious progress. More like the UDF did in the 80's. Also they will have to connect with service delivery protesters, these people are fighting against the system of capitalism. they may not be able to say so, but all the issues they raise come down to the economic policies that this government has adopted.  i also dont think that political parties will and can bring about change, but people will. If people feel the impact they are bound to act. pressure from below is the only way things change. 


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so i take it no one is interested in debating merits of a left orientated party that is not part of the tripartite alliance.

why are you interested in this? do you really think something will come of it?


besides the obvious one of having a new player in SA politics,i think if they do things right and create a space where social movements like Anti privatisation forum, TAC etc are able to debate issues that affect the poor they will make serious progress. More like the UDF did in the 80's. Also they will have to connect with service delivery protesters, these people are fighting against the system of capitalism. they may not be able to say so, but all the issues they raise come down to the economic policies that this government has adopted.  i also dont think that political parties will and can bring about change, but people will. If people feel the impact they are bound to act. pressure from below is the only way things change. 

eish, i don't know, cat.


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debate issues that affect the poor they will make serious progress. More like the UDF did in the 80's.

i think therein lies the problem. Like what happened with COPE, new political parties are good in theory but lets face it, in a capitalist system, there will always be poor people, so every new Tom, Dick and Sizwe will claim to be for the poor but can we really expect power hungry politicians to find solutions for the poor by forming yet another party?

They should have been able able to find solutions while still part of their existing party, the fact that they have to leave means that we, as the people, need to stop looking to politics for answers.

UDF, NNP, COPE, and now this... we have all seen this before. methinks. The poor are always used as a pawn by politicians, that is just sad really
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debate issues that affect the poor they will make serious progress. More like the UDF did in the 80's.

i think therein lies the problem. Like what happened with COPE, new political parties are good in theory but lets face it, in a capitalist system, there will always be poor people, so every new Tom, Dick and Sizwe will claim to be for the poor but can we really expect power hungry politicians to find solutions for the poor by forming yet another party?

They should have been able able to find solutions while still part of their existing party, the fact that they have to leave means that we, as the people, need to stop looking to politics for answers.

UDF, NNP, COPE, and now this... we have all seen this before. methinks. The poor are always used as a pawn by politicians, that is just sad really

UDM?


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debate issues that affect the poor they will make serious progress. More like the UDF did in the 80's.

i think therein lies the problem. Like what happened with COPE, new political parties are good in theory but lets face it, in a capitalist system, there will always be poor people, so every new Tom, Dick and Sizwe will claim to be for the poor but can we really expect power hungry politicians to find solutions for the poor by forming yet another party?

They should have been able able to find solutions while still part of their existing party, the fact that they have to leave means that we, as the people, need to stop looking to politics for answers.

UDF, NNP, COPE, and now this... we have all seen this before. methinks. The poor are always used as a pawn by politicians, that is just sad really

UDM?

yeah that one  :)
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A group of leftists - including influential former officials purged after they clashed with SACP general secretary Blade Nzimande - are planning to launch a breakaway party.
 

Azanian soujahs,

The SACP(formerely CPSA) has never been truly left, a bunch of banned(in the early 1950's) white liberals who saw to re enter political scene through introducing cla** struggle within the africanist nationalist revolution.. Where have ever seen a rich communist?

aluta continua
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A group of leftists - including influential former officials purged after they clashed with SACP general secretary Blade Nzimande - are planning to launch a breakaway party.
 

Azanian soujahs,

The SACP(formerely CPSA) has never been truly left, a bunch of banned(in the early 1950's) white liberals who saw to re enter political scene through introducing cla** struggle within the africanist nationalist revolution.. Where have ever seen a rich communist?

aluta continua

this has always puzzled me. expenisive cars but yet claim you rep communism.