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THE FATE OF MZANSI HIPHOP!!???

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I came across this here while on dat AfricanHiphop site...
This is what I think S.A´s hiphop industry iz headed for, if we keep going the way dat we are...
Jus thought I´d share it with U, give U some thing to think about, it grabbed my attention... it´s pretty long though... U got time?? U better!

"This is by a rapper that was signed to one of these big labels ( yeah I know...) ..i wont say who but this was also extracted from a dvd he made so read this and understand the politics and why rap is slowly dying away


This Is My Official Fu-k The Industry ........


I´ve been signed for about 4 months now to a major label and now I wish I never started rapping, producing, or even getting into the music business, I´m going to college. You know why underground rappers never shine?? You wanna know why it´s so hard to get a deal?? You wanna know why some artists can write 6-7 albums while some cats struggle to write one?? You wanna know why It´s more A&R´s that exists on labels than it is actual artists on the label?? You wanna know why Interscope is suppressing the whole Eminem thing??

Here Goes.......

Most cats believe they can get a deal by spittin´ some sick lyrics or making some good songs, wrong. You know what labels do?? A&R´s don´t look for artists, not at all, Labels sign around 25 artists per decade and then freeze signings. A&R´s don´t go look for the next big artists, they look for hit songs and writing pools and people who can sing backup vocals. A&R´s aren´t worried about finding artists with star quality that have interesting backgrounds, oh no, not at all.

Here´s how they do rappers.........Raping-U-Records artists are starting to get old and played out so they send an A&R out to find a punka** rapper who lives in a respectable area. Next, they make sure the artist is marketable, then they´ll sign the artist. Now Rapper A has a record deal with no previous history of rapping, next the label will setup a front to make it look like they discovered the artist (might sign a kid first, then set it up to make it look like this kid was rapping in front of a crowd at a gas station where a highly known A&R just happened to be getting gas from).

Next, they´ll sit down with the artist and have this reality talk to them, explaining to them that the industry is a business and none of this is real. Now, they´ll overexagerate their background and even lie about their age and where they grew up, they´ll push a suburban to a harder area then they´re really from. They find a an angle (pop´s died, parents divorced, got shot, sold drugs, friend died) and push that angle to build the artist sentimental respect (who likes a punk who lived a perfect life??). They´ll use that angle to build a story around them and how that event or events affected them.

Now, they hit the studio, right?? Wrong!! Now here is what real A&R´s are meant for. They´ll send out their A&R´s and stupid cats like me will kill to get the demo in their hands, once these A&R´s have a good number of SOLICITED demo´s they´ll tell Rappers B, C and D to send the label some material. Rappers B, C and D think they might get a deal, so they get their demo package together with Bio, Pic´s, Press Kit and the actual demo. They probably tellin´ their guys that they finna get signed and ish. Wrong........

Now A&R B is at the label listening to the demos of Rapper B, C and D. A&R B doesn´t care for anything but the songs. A&R B is really feeling Rapper B and D´s demo´s (capable hit songs) but not Rapper C. So that´s when Rapper C gets the rejection letter. Now the A&R is interested in Rapper B & D´s material, so they´ll write them and ask them to send more material, now B & D really think they´re gonna get signed.

A&R B listens again and feels as if Rapper D isn´t as good as he thought he was but still feels Rapper B. Now he sends a rejection letter to Rapper D. Now the contact is made with Rapper B and a meeting is set up. Sounds lovely right?? Keep Reading....A&R B and Rapper B and a few exec´s have a meeting and now Rapper B is hit with REALITY. A&R B explains the real music business and gives Rapper B a choice, either walk out that door and be forever blackballed or the alternative.

You remember Rapper A, right?? Rapper B has been hit with the reality that he will never be a star. Rapper B just sent in about 10 songs to A&R B which were purchased and now will be on Rapper A´s album. Rapper B is now merely part of a writing pool, he will continue to make songs under the supervision of an A&R, only not for himself, for everyone else. Now Rapper B sends about 10-20 songs to Rapin-U-Records every 3 months and now Rapper A, Rapper X, Rapper J and Singer T go through Rapper B´s material as well as the other hundred´s of Rappers and Singers that are merely writing pools material and pick which song they want on their album.

Now here is where the process takes place, Rapper A chooses 3 songs from Rapper B, 4 songs from Rapper Y and 2 songs from Singer U to make an album. Rapper A might want to do his own song so the label gives Rapper A 2 slots to do his own songs. When the album is finished, starving artists in writing pools are paid off and SILENCED. Now you can read the credits and see Rapper A´s name all over, but it´s to fool you, the sheep, the cats who buy the albums and the stupid chickenheads that believe anything in writing.

Rapper A has candy stories and rumors started by people at the label that grow and make the Rapper more respectable, more harder and more controversial to keep the life span of Rapper A alive. Guess what?? If an A&R finds someone else who´s making better songs than Rapper B, they cut him off and blackball him to keep him silenced, it´s that simple, fuk what you heard and believe. Beef?? Real or fake?? Ima tell you this, more beef´s in the past and present then you brainwashed muthafukaz will ever believe are fake, some are real but even then you´ll believe what you want. Once Rapper A falls off (not lyrically, not songwise) marketwise, they drop them and a new era of MUSIC INDUSTRY BULLSH*T arises.

And that´s just the rappers, I´m not even going to get into producing, all Ima say is that most of your respectable producers are merely NAMES, you believe PRODUCER B is ths ish?? PRODUCER B can produce, but how do you think they can produce so many hot songs at one time?? They don´t, a label will send out A&R´s to find clones (people who´ve been influenced and therefore have the same sound) of the producer and the same process as with Rapper´s A, B, C and D will spark up with producers too. THINK ABOUT IT........

Why do think it took Twista and Memphis Bleek so long to come out again, huh?? Cuz they wanted to write their own albums and didn´t want to fall victim, too bad that´s not for most of the ROC. Why do you think Ali Vegas will probably never drop and even when he drops, watch what happens......Why do you think 50 Cent couldn´t get a deal after Trackmasters?? How come the Bravehearts took so long?? And then didn´t even get pushed, promoted or even have money put behind them?? Hey Chicago, where is 3Piece?? Why do you think both MTV MC Battles promised Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella Contracts but Reignman´s on his own label and Wreckognize aint on the Roc?? How come Shawnna got shelved?? Why did Universal lie about Nelly´s age?? Why did it take Jin some 2 and a half years to come out with a single?? Where the hell is Postaboy?? What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars?? Cats know the truth and don´t like it, it´s that simple.......


How would you like it if you´ve been rapping since you were 7, been hustlin demos, doing meaningless talent showcases and then you finally get a deal at age 20 and now you´ve become Rapper B?? The industry messes people up for real and half these cats who see the Bling Bling and girls think that´s all their is, it´s like finding out God doesn´t really exists and now I´ve become Rapper B.

Sh*t like this gets cats killed for real, the industry is shady and what you´ve seen on TV, them DVD´s, in interviews, VH1, MTV, whatever is nothing but the "GHOST INDUSTRY" that you´ve been led to believe is how it is and none of you have any idea, I hate the music industry, I hate the entertainment business, I´m going to college, getting my degree and am leaving this is behind me, FU*K COLUMBIA RECORDS and most of all, ya´ll can SU*K my D*CK. To the industry heads on here, F*CK U, go ahead, yeah, I´ve broken the silence, only the underground is real, FU*K the industry.......

I´m uppin this til everyone reads it, I thought I was about live out my dream and now I´ve been exposed to the nightmare that is the industry. I was brainwashed, now I´m not, everything I´ve said in this post is the truth, anything you´ve heard or been led to believe is bull, this post applies to all them STUDIO wankstaz.......

Cat´s I know got ghostwriters and songs come from writing pools.........Fu*k what you believe........

Clipse
Snoop
Nas
D-Block
Eminem
Fabolous
Biggie
Static
Joe Budden
Nelly
Mase
Chingy
Ludacris
Kanye West
Trick Daddy
Ca**idy
Jay-Z
Young Gunz
Murphy Lee

And about a bunch of cats I´m too pissed to mention right now......I´m uppin this til the world blows up, think about this ish seriously and a lot of ish will start to make more sense......

-Welcome To The Real Music Industry-"

Cho!
FT!!-aka-FIYASKO

What do U think???????????
IYASKO___FT!


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its business man, not benevolent charity.
its not just hip hop that works like this, everything does.
surely these revelations tell you nothing new nor astounding about what the music industry is like.
damn jo, just ask Gallo, they´re the #1 talent jackers.


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like i said in a previous thread - opinions and sentiments dont buy bread, they dont satisfy shareholders. ya, the industry is soulless. The WHOLE INDUSTRY. Usakhala ngeHiphop, l umafikizolo? Remember Hhashi Elimhlophe´s hit Muntuza with b.o.p? Well, all those people can tell you about what its like to sign everything over toGallo.
Ghostwriting is THE NORM. id be shocked if Snoop or any of those guys mentioned actually did any work at all except to flap the gab.
Sure, whoever wants to remain authentic must accept that they will struggle.
but hey, at least they get to keep their souls...
quot;I bleed rhymes when i'm wounded, seems to happen more and more as I lie face down on a puddle of my own metaphors on the floor"
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this is a response to the same opinion from another cat in another forum... so, i agree with him.

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The bottom line is, that´s the way the industry works, period. Ask this very simple question from yourself:

- Why do most record labels exist, and what are their long-term goals?

It´s very straight-forward thinking in most cases - they´re business entities trying to make a profit. No matter how you twist this around, labels usually aren´t non-profit charity organizations trying to promote artists for the sake of the music and the art. The big plan can be sugar-coated on the surface level, but in the end this is what is the drive and the aim behind most labels - financial profit.

That whole description that you posted is pretty much how you make a product and market it. First you observe and research your possible target audience, then segment it according to geographics, sociograhics etc, and finally brand your product in a way that appeals to your chosen segment. That´s it in short, and music business is no exception in this. It´s very systematic from an analytical point of view, but ofcourse there are always marketing wizards who get good results from quite unprobable equations.

Overall, the whole story was no news to me. It´s unfortunate, but this is a prime example of the capitalist drive to earn a profit by any means necessary. Art gets analyzed and converted into a product, and the label gets most of the profits. For the artist this is something of a deadend situation, either "sell out" or stay underground and don´t earn a living out of what you like doing. It´s a tradeoff at best, but some labels and artist do pull it off with style. Names? Think of Ninjatune for example. That´s one label I got a lot of respect for, they leave all the creative freedom to their artists, and never even try to appeal to the mainstream. Ofcourse, you could think of this in another light too - what if Ninjatune too is just another very well-researched business entity serving the needs and wants of a certain segmented niche of music listeners? You never know.



quot;I bleed rhymes when i'm wounded, seems to happen more and more as I lie face down on a puddle of my own metaphors on the floor"
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why else did Lauryn Hill have a nervous breakdown, Clef turn wack and Pras disappear into the Bermuda triangle of hasbeens... ?
quot;I bleed rhymes when i'm wounded, seems to happen more and more as I lie face down on a puddle of my own metaphors on the floor"
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thanks dude this was mad interesting. Who is the artist speaking?


I'll have you thinking that you highschool girls the way I take you out' fd


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it´s wierd.
i feel like that schitt is a planet away from what i´m doing and trying to do with music...
but seeing what i´ve seen, ,i can definately see how it happens.

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in most medium of music
it is the performance of the art that is judged...
charisma, talent, showmanship...crowdcontrol, breathcontrol etc.

i mean there are composers and there are performers innit??
12yr old girl doesn´t give a dmn schitt whether her favourite singer wrote the song as long as they perform it convincingly...
i could give a phuk if billi holiday wrote strange fruit...it´s still poignant and powerful!! she brings something to it...

if this is where rap must go...dnt cry little girls.
some of you are better writers than you are performers.
natural selection.


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i would rap anything space vein writes...
he´s the best.
official application:
pls ghostwrite for me space vein??


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i tink yoo guys will beeleev anyting det anybodee say.

ekspeerience ees en hes always been de bess teecher !!

word !!!!!!!!!
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blowin' up the spot.. pa** the mic and watch me rock" - MR. DEVIOUS


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Who ever wrote this needs to get professional help, quickly.

We all know "RECORD COMPANIES ARE SHADY, In fact I think they on crack, just look at how they act" - QTIP

^^ that was ATCQ at their prime and at the same time signed to a major. So we know the industry has been whack for mad long but it is still possible to find artists who take this hiphop ish serious so the dude who wrote that is approaching 100% insane. You can sum up all he said as: RAP artsists are being treated more and more as pop artists - But we know that already

Wasnt KRS-one the same label as Britney Spears once?

the funniest part is the one about Ghostwriting:

Clipse - their ghostwriters needs to get a ghostwriter
Snoop - no ghostwriter can save his career, he is still saying stuff he was saying in 93: weed, weed, weed
Nas  - lol, wasnt Nas ghostwriting for LLCoolJ and Will Smith
D-Block - Jadakiss has hot punchlines, his ghostwriters must be dope. the only problem is their always kicking gangster rhymes and we all know they come from a middle-cla** suburb and not the grimy borough as they claim.
Eminem - he has a ghostwriter!? He needs to borrow his ghostwriter to D12 because their underground but wack.
Fabolous - punchline king, wonder who is writing for him. might be true
Biggie - ha ha
Static - ?
Joe Budden - he needs to get a new ghostwriter before def jam drops him
Nelly - cant even hear what he is saying most of the time.
Mase - now the Pastor wouldnt do such a thing...
Chingy - his ghostwriters needs to get a ghostwriter
Ludacris  - his ghostwriters needs to get a ghostwriter
Kanye West - true, but he is a producer
Trick Daddy -?
Ca**idy - still wack with a writer
Jay-Z  - didnt he ghostwrite for Bleek and Doctor Dre? How is he going to get a writer then? ha ha

ABAC - A change gon come!


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Iz this what this art spawned from the streets
has been degraded down to?
Most of yo illest cats got ghost-writters, this goes to show dat this game iz filled with fakes while these muhf***as claim how real they are...

Remember when the stories came out with Rakim and Puffy claiming dat they
wrote some scripts for KRS and they want their money?
Giving much thought to it, it might have been the truth!
Or dat Jada for instance, P-Styles writes all dat hard material for him...


F*ck this rap game (but I still luv it though)
Especially these Record Companies exploiting artist...

What do U think we should do so dat we don´t face the same doom???

Cho!
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Quote:
 What do U think we should do so dat we don´t face the same doom???



get a good lawyer and read the damn contract properly.
quot;I bleed rhymes when i'm wounded, seems to happen more and more as I lie face down on a puddle of my own metaphors on the floor"
Soulheir the Manchild