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R.I.P Guru

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R.I.P. Guru. Lets not focus on the fallout with preemo or relations with Solar but on the legacy he left behind. Guru lives on through the music.

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Rest In Peace to one of the most stand up guys on the mic for real! He will live on forever through his wax!! I am shocked! I have meet the man twice, and he was a genuinely sincere guy! A real dude! He will be missed...


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I didnt know this nigga and f*** u for shaking ur dumb head at this, may he lie in peace, yo RR who do u thnk is the oldest nik on ag? i know that Patbricks kid is the Ntondo wethu.
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It's mostly tha voice, that gets you up
It's mostly tha voice, that makes you buck
A lot of rappers got flavor, and some got skills
- He summed his style up the best

You really think a intelligent dude like Guru will make that beef his final statement?
It seems phony to me... Plus name dropping Solar as much as he's mentioned in this
so called final letter seems unlikely.. His fame exceeds the 7 yrs with Solar..

Judging from the people that knew him personally it seems very uncharacteristic  that he would make that his final word..

But either way, Peace Guru, besides the great music and what Gangstarr represented, your voice and phrases are cut by more dj's than any other rapper...
we'll keep you alive....
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I dont know bout that letter man but Guru didnt like it when Primo was gettin more love and heads were not givin Solar's beats a chance or listen anyway Rest In Peace
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R.I.P. Guru. Lets not focus on the fallout with preemo or relations with Solar but on the legacy he left behind. Guru lives on through the music.

"These are the words that I manifest"

I agree. I can't say I was a hard fan and head but it's always sad to hear a great contributor to hip hop has pa**ed away.

My sincere condolences to those directly affected.


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That letter is extremely suspect. It's almost as if it was written by Solar himself to boost his own ego. Either that or he and Guru were f***ing.

And to make someone your medical proxy while you have family around? That sounds strange too.

Anyway, RIP, I enjoyed your music.





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RIP to the legend this is a very sad moment. Do u thnk a man in his death bed would think about awards,grudges and worldly staff, I think Solar wrote half of that letter,well thats just me!


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...Ja...rest in peace Guru...........Dude had some profound music
« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 04:11:06 PM by OG Beezak »
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Rest in peace G.U.R.U!!!!!!!!

Damn I cant believe he was that young. They did a lot for HIPHOP!

I will always regard his catalog with Gangstarr far superior to whatever music did with Solar.
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You've got to admire how Premo conducts himself. These young cats could learn something.

From http://nahright.com/news/2010/04/21/dj-premiers-statement-on-gurus-pa**ing/

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IT WAS A SAD DAY FOR ME TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THE DEATH OF A MAN WHO I WILL CONTINUE TO CALL MY BROTHER, KEITH ELAM, BETTER KNOWN AS GURU OF THE LEGENDARY GANG STARR.

FROM 1988-2004, WE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH SUCCESS TOGETHER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO EXPAND OUR BUSINESSES INDEPENDENTLY AND GIVE EACH OTHER WHAT GURU CALLED “CREATIVE SPACE”, BEFORE PLANNING TO REUNITE FOR OUR 7TH LP WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT. TRAGICALLY, WE WILL NEVER REACH THAT DAY.

I’VE BEEN ASKED TO COMMENT ON A LETTER SPEAKING ILL OF ME WHICH WAS SUPPOSEDLY WRITTEN BY GURU IN HIS DYING DAYS. ALL I WILL SAY ABOUT IT IS THAT OUR TIME TOGETHER WAS BEAUTIFUL, WE BUILT A HIP HOP LEGACY TOGETHER, AND NO ONE CAN RE-WRITE HISTORY OR TAKE AWAY MY LOVE FOR HIM. ONE THING I WOULD NEVER DO IS PLAY AROUND WITH THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS LIFE.

I WILL CELEBRATE GURU’S LIFE… I WILL HONOR HIS MEMORY… I WILL GRIEVE WITH THE ELAM FAMILY OVER HIS UNTIMELY DEATH… I WILL REMEMBER THE GANG STARR FOUNDATION AND ALL OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF GANG STARR WHO CAME BEFORE ME – WE ALL KNOW EACH OTHER… MOSTLY, I WILL CHERISH EVERYTHING WE CREATED TOGETHER AS GANG STARR, FOREVER. I’M GONNA MISS HEARING HIS SIGNATURE MONOTONE VOICE WHEN HE WALKS IN THE ROOM, BUT THE SONGS WILL ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO ME….HIS RHYME FLOWS WERE INSANE, AND I WILL NEVER REMOVE HIM FROM MY HEART AND SOUL…….REST IN PEACE TO THE MAN WHO FELT “SATISFACTION FROM THE STREET CROWD REACTION” … I LOVE YOU GOO…….DJ PREMIER
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Guru definitely did'nt write, I'm not sure if anybody caught this just after guru's heart attack COLIN POWELL WARNING

http://www.djpremierblog.com/2010/03/11/the-man-who-calls-himself-a-superproducer/

Written by gimantalon:

Many people asked me to actually do this and I come clean, I didn’t really enjoy writing this. However, the truth has to be written to the public. The people who wrote me asked for my help. About the whole Solar Guru situation… We should have known people. We should have known this would come this far. Superproducer Solar is a manipulator of the highest degree and loves to control people. I really hate making a post on DJ Premier Blog about Solar, I even promised last year not to mention Guru ever again (because I saw no ending with that Solar dude).

A lot of people who worked with Guru and Solar came forward to me with their stories about 7Grand Records and Solar in this intense week. Mostly they write about how heartbreaking it is to hear that their former partner Guru had a heart attack and that Solar is with him making it hard for his family, they are very concerned. The reason they wrote the truth in countless letters is because they want Guru away from Solar with the help of the public (like Justin asked in his video). It was no fun for them writing about Guru’s evil friend, especially when Guru was one of the friendliest people they ever met, and were blessed to work with. To the few persons Guru had contact with, he was always very kind. He was a master at cheering someone up. If you saw Guru you wouldn’t think he was sad, he wouldn’t let you see it someone wrote me. He didn’t want to make someone sad because of him. That’s maybe the reason Solar had so much control on Guru. Guru’s first concern wasn’t himself, but the persons next to him. I hope you respect why they want to stay anonymous. They don’t want to harm the person, Guru, that were always good to them. Yet, what Solar puts Guru trough is unacceptable and makes people angry for a damn good reason. No one wants to see a good person suffer and taken advantage of. So I warn all of you, the next thing I’m about to write is something like tmz.com or allhiphop.com, you are not forced to read it. Keep Guru in the back of your mind, because he needs our support. Even so, here are some facts about the person who is now with Guru:

-Solar claims to be a member of the Nation of Gods and Earths. He consider himself as a God. 7Grand logo is inspired from the religions logo.

-Solar claims to have saved Guru from alcohol abuse.

-Solar and Guru likes to believe the media that they were friends before they worked together. Which isn’t completely true. Guru was introduced to Solar by Black Jesus who worked on projects with Guru. Solar just started producing and when he came into the picture he disrupted and poisoned his mind against Black Jesus and his crew.

-Solar always told Guru that his old friends hate him and that he is nobody without him. Guru is scared of that and don’t want to end up alone in his mid 40s. Solar isn’t that stupid, if Guru and DJ Premier make music again he can say bye bye.

-Every journalist that would like to take an interview with Guru is firstly asked not to question about Gang Starr or DJ Premier. Solar always has to sit next to Guru (even with a phone interview). If you watch some interviews of them you can see how Solar likes to interrupt Guru to say it better. I once heard an interview when he got mad (because of DJ Premier) and asked the interviewer ‘what the deal is’. Guru didn’t move a bit.

-Solar likes to write mails in Guru’s name to the 7Grand artists. You can tell the difference between Guru and Solar. Guru always wrote like a poet, Solar like a thug.

-Guru is allowed to sign autographs for a certain amount of time, after which Solar yells ‘that’s enough’, grabs his arm and drags him off.

-When a girl shows interest in Guru she firstly needs to be approved by Solar, which led Guru with no girls most of the times. When you ask him about it, Guru always replies: ‘Solar is helping me to be disciplined, I need that’.

-It has been reported that Solar harbours intense jealousy for the Jazzmatazz trumpet soloist Brownman. I received emails from promoters stating that they’ve seen Solar pack Brownman into a cab and send him back to the hotel early when audiences are freaking out over his trumpet playing. One promoter describes the reaction to Brownman as “so much cheering you couldn’t hear Guru talk, while Solar’s reception was luke-warm at best”. This infuriates Solar and he has used lies such as “we have an early flight” as excuses to shuttle the trumpet player away from the crowd. Eventually Solar made Guru stop introducing the band members entirely. The superproducer’s own introduction would go on for minutes, while the all-star band – including the well known DJ DooWop – were treated like nobody’s. Other sources have reported that Solar has had many conflicts with Brownman, stemming from Solar’s insecurities over Brownman’s ability to engage an audience as a soloist – while he himself has no business on stage next to Guru. Why is the producer of the show on stage in the first place?

-Solar feeds on the career of Guru , of which he has total control over. While playing in Norway a few years ago, he demanded weird stuff and complained that he had not received enough smoked salmon and champagne. Most of the people didn’t even know who he was.

-It’s not like anyone didn’t know about this, a lot of this has been said before. Here you have a picture of a fan who wanted to own Solar. Here you have other blogs besides mine who spoke about it, here’s another one. This funny picture I posted on my blog spread like wild fire one year ago, now it’s off course not funny anymore. Actually I’ve known several journalists who wrote bad things when they did an interview with Guru and Solar.

-Solar was thinking about a new Gang Starr album, probably without DJ premier. Guru told us last year it’s possible there would be a new Gang Starr album. If there would be one, it will be released on 7Grand Records. Solar made him believe only he is Gang Starr. After that statement an official twitter opened @GangStarr_NY that was promoted through Guru’s official twitter, which is in control of Solar.

-Guru is not the only one that Solar is controlling and brainwashing. The keyboard player of the Jazzmatazz band, Dave Scott, was even worse terrorized. Dave literally runs to pack up Solar’s food when Solar commands him to everywhere he demands. Dave does all kind of things for Solar. Like giving his clothes and making up a room with the things solar wants. He even does Solar’s laundry on tour often. He is terrified to lose his job because he has nothing else. When I posted that Jazzmatazz band left 7grand in January (due to Solar), he wrote eight comments in three hours begging me to add that he hasn’t quit. That’s how terrified he is from Solar, who runs things via abuse and terror. Also I hope he will be set free from Solar and go his own path.

-Solar blocks every source of information to Guru because he knows his old friends still love him.

-Solar and his wife signed a health care proxy as brother and sister of Guru. Guru’s room is protected with a guest list and a black list. Solar told the hospital that there were pictures taken from Guru without permission, which was not true.

-Solar can’t be mistaken with MC Solaar, the legendary MC from France who Guru worked with in 1993. When Guru first toured with Solar (I think 2005), I made this mistake. Then I saw some other lame dude, never knew who he was at the moment, but he wasn’t MC Solaar.


There is more that should better kept private, but I think you get the picture. I think Guru is still at an instable condition, so I would like everybody to still pray until he’s better. When he is, he will have a difficult job to do. Considering him not wanting to harm anyone. Actions, however, need to be taken, but first we need to see if Guru is at a stable condition. Pray for him, anyone who met him in person knows he deserves it.

It’s possible the future tells us he doesn’t want to reunite with DJ Premier at any price, if so then I’m afraid we shall need to accept this. We need to accept any decision by Guru. And lastly, this has nothing to do with DJ Premier you gossip magazines. And once again, I would like to thank the hip hop community to stand together to support Guru. Gang Starr 4 Ever!!

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